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see chart please: http://www.imaginis.com/BREASTHEALTH/benign.asp
My biopsy came back hyperplasia without atypica ...YAY but....yeah there's my big ole but, and I am seriously not trying to borrow trouble and my doc has told me that he plans on keeping a close eye on me and yet I have this very real feeling of dread. Has anyone reading this started out just plain ole hyperplasia and eventually had breast cancer or better yet, had hyperplasia and not had breast cancer years later?
My mom has two sisters who have had breast cancer - one who is a bc survivor and one who died after it spread at age 40. My mom has also had a great aunt who had BC.
Thanks for reading and Happy Valentine's Day sisters, my love to each of you~
angie
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Well, there is controversy, including about definitions.
There are a lot of complications with the subject of breast cancer risk. When the ACS is talking about 1 1/2-2 times normal, they are NOT NOT NOT saying this is 1 1/2 - 2 times 12.5%, but 1 1/2 - 2 times the risk of a woman WITHOUT any particular risk factor, which is something like 3-5%. So a person with a 2 times normal risk would have a risk of about 6-10% lifetime risk. This means that in this group of people (with 2x normal risk), 90-94% of these people would NEVER get breast cancer.
Here's what the ACS says:
Non-proliferative lesions: These conditions are not associated with overgrowth of breast tissue. They do not seem to affect breast cancer risk, or if they do, it is to a very small extent. They include:
- fibrocystic disease (fibrosis and/or cysts)
- mild hyperplasia
- adenosis (non-sclerosing)
- simple fibroadenoma
- phyllodes tumor (benign)
- a single papilloma
- fat necrosis
- mastitis
- duct ectasia
- other benign tumors (lipoma, hamartoma, hemangioma, neurofibroma)
Proliferative lesions without atypia: These conditions show excessive growth of cells in the ducts or lobules of the breast tissue. They seem to raise a woman's risk of breast cancer slightly (1½ to 2 times normal). They include:
- usual ductal hyperplasia (without atypia)
- complex fibroadenoma
- sclerosing adenosis
- several papillomas or papillomatosis
- radial scar
Proliferative lesions with atypia: In these conditions, there is excessive growth of cells in the ducts or lobules of the breast tissue, and the cells no longer appear normal. They have a stronger effect on breast cancer risk, raising it 4 to 5 times higher than normal. They include:
- atypical ductal hyperplasia (ADH)
- atypical lobular hyperplasia (ALH)http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_2X_What_are_the_risk_factors_for_breast_cancer_5.asp
- Women at high risk include those who:
- have a known BRCA1 or BRCA2 gene mutation
- have a first-degree relative (mother, father, brother, sister, or child) with a BRCA1 or BRCA2 gene mutation, but have not had genetic testing themselves
- have a lifetime risk of breast cancer of 20% to 25% or greater, according to risk assessment tools that are based mainly on family history (see below)
- had radiation therapy to the chest when they were between the ages of 10 and 30 years
- have Li-Fraumeni syndrome, Cowden syndrome, or Bannayan-Riley-Ruvalcaba syndrome, or have one of these syndromes in first-degree relatives
- Women at moderately increased risk include those who:
- have a lifetime risk of breast cancer of 15% to 20%, according to risk assessment tools that are based mainly on family history (see below)
- have already had breast cancer, ductal carcinoma in situ (DCIS), lobular carcinoma in situ (LCIS), atypical ductal hyperplasia (ADH), or atypical lobular hyperplasia (ALH)
- have extremely dense breasts or unevenly dense breasts when viewed by mammograms
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_6X_Non_Cancerous_Breast_Conditions_59.asp
So you have one aunt who had premenopausal breast cancer. Were the other aunt and great aunt's breast cancer premenopausal?
Here are the USPTF guidelines on who is likely to be a candidate for BRCA 1/2 testing:
These recommendations apply to women who have not received a diagnosis of breast or ovarian cancer. They do not apply to women with a family history of breast or ovarian cancer that includes a relative with a known deleterious mutation in BRCA1 or BRCA2 genes; these women should be referred for genetic counseling. These recommendations do not apply to men.
Although there currently are no standardized referral criteria, women with an increased-risk family history should be considered for genetic counseling to further evaluate their potential risks.
Certain specific family history patterns are associated with an increased risk for deleterious mutations in the BRCA1 or BRCA2 gene. Both maternal and paternal family histories are important. For non-Ashkenazi Jewish women, these patterns include 2 first-degree relatives with breast cancer, 1 of whom received the diagnosis at age 50 years or younger; a combination of 3 or more first- or second-degree relatives with breast cancer regardless of age at diagnosis; a combination of both breast and ovarian cancer among first- and second-degree relatives; a first-degree relative with bilateral breast cancer; a combination of 2 or more first- or second-degree relatives with ovarian cancer regardless of age at diagnosis; a first- or second-degree relative with both breast and ovarian cancer at any age; and a history of breast cancer in a male relative.
For women of Ashkenazi Jewish heritage, an increased-risk family history includes any first-degree relative (or 2 second-degree relatives on the same side of the family) with breast or ovarian cancer.
About 2 percent of adult women in the general population have an increased-risk family history as defined here. Women with none of these family history patterns have a low probability of having a deleterious mutation in BRCA1 or BRCA2 genes.http://www.ahrq.gov/clinic/uspstf05/brcagen/brcagenrs.htm
Its hard to know who just has hyperplasia, then went on to get atypical hyperplasia, then went on to get cancer. A big factor with this is that for the people who had hyperplasia on a biopsy, we really don't know if there is hyperplasia, DCIS, LCIS, invasive cancer, or whatever in the rest of the breast(s). We'd have to do bilateral mastectomies to find that out.
But, as you can see, the VAST majority of women with hyperplasia will NEVER go on to get breast cancer.
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Leaf, thank you for the detailed explanation. It is so much more than I ever expected.
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angie----hyperplasia without atypia is good news, it's benign; it raises your overall risk but only slightly. Just be vigilant with your yearly mammos and your monthly self breast exams.
Anne
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Artistang,
I also have UDH [or ductal hyperplasia without atypia], extensive sclerosing adenosis and papillary metaplasia. I agree UDH is benign, but with other factors included, risks can become higher. My advice to you: Be vigilant and be proactive. I am screened every 6 months with alternating mammo & MRI due to a very strong family history on both sides. You may wish to read the article below and draw your own conclusions. What follow-ups is your doctor recommending for you?? Have you had any prior biopsies?
Evidence of chromosomal alterations in pure usual ductal hyperplasia as a breast carcinoma precursor.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18497952?ordinalpos=6&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed
Results showed that a significant portion of UDH shares common genetic alterations with ADH, DCIS and IDC, indicating UDH as a precursor of invasive breast ductal carcinoma.
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Yes Anne I promise to be very viligant! thank you so much - hugs to you.
LISAMG, my surgeon has already told me to expect to see him 5 more times this year! so yes I can see that he has a plan of extra carefullness ahead of us...I am not sure how often he plans on a mammo but will ask next Wednesday when i see him again. this was my first biospy but I cannot help but think back to my 20's when my pap came back and we had to do a cone biopsy on my cervix and wonder just how many places in my body i am growing "extra"cells
thanks so much for the link - off to read it now~
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LisaMG - the article you sent me to gave way to more articles, I have read enough to know that my doctors plan of viligant watching is necesary and most wanted... thank you~
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Got a copy of my pathology yesterday:
FIBROCYSTIC CHANGE, INCLUDING FIBROSIS, DILATATION OF DUCTS, APROCRINE METAPLASIA AND FOCAL EPITHELIAL HYPERPLASIA WITHOUT ATYPIA
NO MALIIGNANCY IDENTIFIED
I dont have any questions, still researching and reading...grateful its all the report says. I just thought I would update my thread for folks who read the threads. Praying for you all here always, angie
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Woo hoo! Way to go, angie! Go out and celebrate YOU!
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angie----wonderful news!!!! Now you can relax!
Anne
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Angie,
you asked if anyone had similar pathology and went on to be diagnosed with BC...my answer is YES. I had ductal hyperplasia w/out atypia...also sclerosing adenosis...ductal ecstasia etc.
In 2002 I had a similar path report and in 2004 was diagnosed (reads benign breast conditions). This is my story...
"Family history of Cancer is as follows.. Mother (BRCA-) DXed 1990,new primary 1995,mets to lungs 2003,mets to pelvis and hip 2004,now stage IV and doing well (has dementia as well).Mothers 3 sisters DXed w/ BC(one premenopausally)(one DXed with Colon Cancer in addition to BC),Mothers younger sister DXed 2004 Osteosarcoma (Juvenile Bone Cancer)passed away 75.Mothers brother died from Lung cancer.My brother DXed at 55 w/ Colon Cancer (no risk factors),his son,my nephew, DXed at 30 w/ Melanoma.1st cousin DXed premenopausally w/ BC and later new primary.Another cousin tested positive BRCA (185 del AG) and had prophy surgeries. I tested in August of 2002 for the 3 panel Ashkenasi mutations,and tested negative.Father died at 57 from heart disease as did all his brothers and father (Ashkenasi Jewish) I have had an excisional biopsy and a core needle biopsy for what were diagnosed as benign breast conditions (fibroadenomas).Current mammo showed areas of calcifications that will be watched. I have decided (at my Radiologists advice) to skip my 6 month Mammo and wait until December 2004 for the next one. I just need to get off the "rollercoaster" for a break! I do not recommend this type of avoidance technique for everyone,its just my personal choice at this time.Thank Goodness for FORCE!................. *** Update Dec 13th 2004, DXed Stage IIB T2N1 HER2+++,invasive ductal carcinoma . Elected bilateral mast w/ no recon,pathology report of prophy breast showed atypical hyperplasia. I began AC/Taxol dose dense Feb. 21st 2005 completed May 28th,2005 Mother has been given a 6 mo prognosis on Dec 4th 2004. *Update Aug. 3rd 2005, My beloved mother Anne, passed away July 29th from complications due to BC, after a 14 year battle.She would have been 90 yo in exactly 8 weeks, and passed on the anniversary of her mothers death. I began one year of one weekly Herceptin therapy on July 25th,2005. Completed Herceptin June 18th 2006. Tamox for 6 months, Arimidex for 4 1/2 years (Aug. 20090 Eldest brother diagnosed stage IV lung ca. February 06 Update November 2006: Eldest brother passed away on November 20th from lung cancer. April 2007, scans showed NED! Whooppiie! DIEP Recon in NOLA scheduled for August 28th,2007 Middle brother ,age 63 diagnosed with pre-melanoma, Sept.2007. Excisional biopsy and then reexcision for better margins. Surgeon could not get optimal margins so he will have close surveillance every 6 mo. November 2007, CT,bone scans and bloodwork all normal!! NED!May 2008, still NED! Whoopie!!!!!!! November 2008,CA marker is 13 woohhoo,still NED whooppiieee"
Please be cautious,
Marcia
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Marcia wow what a family history you have there, my mothers family is full of various cancers including BC but thank God not her.
And congrats on the NED!!! that is great news indeed!
Thank you for answering my question and please know that cautious is my new middle name...my doctors are taking this very seriously. My very best to you and yours.
angie
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