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  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited February 2010

    Ooooh, I HATE when kids are sick! Frown Big guys can tell you where it hurts (and usually they do!)

    Gentle hugs to all your sickies (don't squeeze too hard! Surprised)

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited March 2010

    Just popping in before I head to bed to try and sleep.  I did go to DR today,  was feeling much better from the tummy thing.  But what a most awful visit,  completely frustrating ,  no one mentioned the blood work this  AM was to be a FASTING, so of coarse I had coffee and toast before going - UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I have to go back in the AM for that. 

    After a good feel up - Gosh I am sick of people touching me, Once seems to think he feels an enlarged node under my left arm pit (original DX side in 06) so now before he will do ANYTHING I MUST have the PET SCAN,  of coarse that must be approved by insurance,  and that could take up to a week to get approved.  He did order me a new script called Gabapentin,  it is supposed to help more with the "nerve sensations" I am having, supossed to take it in addition to the pain med.  I don't like the sounds of it at all,  I hate meds, this one is used for seizure disorders and even Bipolar and comes with warnings about withdrawl and stopping the medication -  I scare myself silly reading warnings on meds.  I don't know why I do it,  I just do.  I didn't even fill it yet.

    UGH - FRUSTRRATED AND TIRED.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2010

    Cathi, gabapentin is used a lot. I took it to see if it would help with the side effects orf Femara...hot flashes and insomnia. It didn't help, so I switched to Aromasin, which is much better for me. But I didn't have any problem taking the gabapentin. It's worth a try, IMO. Try it, if you don't like it, ease off of it.

    Your life has been the pits. (I just corrected a typo...I typed pist. That seems appropriate!) My heart reaches out for you. I wish I could help in a more practical way.

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited March 2010

    I took Gabapentin for about 6 weeks following surgery to help with nerve pain and it worked well. No se's and after 6 weeks I went off with no problem.

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited March 2010

    Thanks ladies,  I'll give it a whirl then, nothing to loose just relief to gain.  Had my Blood work bright and early so endulginh in lots of coffee now.

    Judie things have been bumpy to say the least,  every Dr visit seems to make me nummer and nummer ,  I don't worry much anymore that I am at deaths door,  and even though I don't do everything the Dr's want when they want,  I feel as though I am in control of my destiny however good,  bad or long it may be  if that makes any sense. I do feel I have an understanding more of those who have choosen just to LIVE with out all the DR crap,  like my mom,  once she found out about her liver CA she was just done with all the crap,  she had already been through so much with her heart and her failed kidneys etc,  etc.  She never stopped fighting the stupid disease she just choose another battle ground one that did not include Dr's and meds and needles. Not sure that makes sense,  and I am not there yet,  but I have said it before if I die from Cancer no one had better ever say or write in an obituary that I Lost My Battle  -   I always think when I read that about someone who has fought a disease how sad and awful -  just me I guess,  I won't go dowm=n being a looser.

    Another,  cold,  damp,  rainy,  windy day here. Most nasty Florida winter I have known in my time here.  Hope we get a couple nice months before the humidity comes back.

    HAPPY TUESDAY -XOXOXOXOXOXOXO

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited March 2010

    Many, many, many months ago someone wrote that when you die with cancer you WIN your battle because you take the cancer with you..to death. I don't know who to credit with this thinking, but I like it!

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited March 2010

    I like it too Barbe,  how can anyone who fights hard with any kind of major Illness,  CA, AIDES, etc,  etcm  be considered a LOOSER,  if you give it your all,  what ever your personal all may be  you fought your battle like a true warrior in my opinion. 

    Anyway off to fill the scrip for the  Gabapentin,  I'll give it a whirl,  guess I needed some sister reassurance.

    XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited March 2010

    Cathi, I am praying that your mets are contained and easily taken care of.

    I got a call from my family doctors office today, I had my annual pap done last Nov and it was abnormal, he wanted it redone in 6 months. I had the test done again last Monday and they called and it is still abnormal and want to repeat the test in 6 months again. They are mailing me a copy of the report so I can research what is going on (they wouldn't fax it Yell). What I have seen so far is if it is low-grade dysplasia they will keep repeating the test every 6 months until they get 2 that are normal. Should I be freaking out about this test result? I know it isn't major like mets but it does have me worried. He did say that my blood work from November did show that I was in full menopause. And on top of that I am fighting a sinus infection that is settling in my chest and I can't stop coughing. And we are getting a heavy snow fall, it started snowing about 11:00 am and expected to snow for the next 8-10 hours with an accumulation of 2 inches, but I think we will get more than that.

    Sheila

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2010

    Sheila, low-grade dysplasia is just that...low-grade. A yellow flag rather than a red flag. I'll bet it's from inflammation...perhaps a slight infection. Years ago I had several PAPs like yours. I think I had three. Since then all have been normal. The most common cause of serious problems is the HPV virus. They can do a titer to see if you've ever had it if you are worried.

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited March 2010

    Hi everyone!  Sorry I've been MIA.  Things are pretty busy around here.  The house is just about done, so we have tons to do before we can move in.

    Thank goodness you finally let the cat out of the bag, Cathi.  Now I don't feel like I'll slip up and say something I wasn't supposed to.  I'm so sorry for all you've been going through lately.  If you mentioned the ordeal with Landen on FB, I missed it.  How terrifying that must have been for you!  I'm so glad he's ok.  ((((((Cathi))))))

    Hugs to all,

    Karen

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited March 2010

    I don't have the actual path report in my hands (yet) but what the nurse said about seeing me again in 6 months to recheck it made me think that it is low-grade dysplasia. It seems that I always get the interesting diagnosis (scolosis at age 11, ADH twice before dx of DCIS). Why can't I do anything simply?

    Sheila

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2010
    Because you are a complex, fascinating woman, Sheila!Cool
  • dink
    dink Member Posts: 240
    edited March 2010

    Thank  you all for your comments regarding my "bonus".  I just put it in my savings account for now.

    Cathi, I'm sorry to hear about the mets.  I knew something was wrong because of your pain and being tired.  I know  some of that was because of your children and grandchildren.  I hate that you're hurting and scarred so {{{{{{hugs}}}}} to you.  I learn things from you guys everyday.  I didn't know breast cancer has been linked to bone mets.  Now, I'm a little nervous because my "tennis elbow" hasn't gotten any better after two years.  Cathi, I think you need to let your girls know as soon as possible.  It's their turn to be there for you.  I don't mean to feel sorry for you or take care of you, but to be your support system.  I think the girls will step up to the plate very quickly if you let them. 

    I'm sorry about little Landen and I hope he is doing better.  I know in the emergency room as a nurse, parents would bring their little ones in and I felt helpless because they were there for me to take care of their little one and to stop the pain and make things better, to give them some kind of answer and I couldn't.  Little ones are so precious it just tears you up. 

    Sheila, I'm so happy about your job.  What is it that you do?  Lisa, how are you doing?  Barbe you are so funny. Cloudhowe I love to read your posts.  I really have missed everyone, nice to be back.

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited March 2010

    dink I work in the office of a furniture company, I started at this company 16 yrs ago in the sewing factory, sewing upholstery. While working full time and raising my son by myself (I married my hubby 13 yrs ago) I put myself through college for a 2 yr computer systems degree (5 yrs in school). 11 yrs ago I got transfered to the main office as the computer room operator - printing hard copies of reports, shipping documents, acknowledgements, invoices and such. My job has evolved in the 11 yrs to include the various jobs at different times, support desk, mail room, order imaging clerk, data entry, front desk (reception). you could say that I am a jack-of-all trades. When ever my boss has a small job he needs done he gets me to do it if I have time. I have worked the longest at this company. I told my boss that I will be there until they close the doors. 

    Sheila

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited March 2010

    Sheila, even a temporary reprieve will give you more time to get things in order for either early retirement or to find a new job.

    Speaking of that, I'm back to the salt mines today. I stopped by my office yesterday on my way to my PS's. Planned to stay an hour or so, ended up staying three and a half. Well, I should get an half day credit for that, lol. Went through hundreds of emails, lost count at 500. Mostly trying to sell me Viagra (jeepers, does anyone know of a man named :"Nancy"? You'd think they be a little more discriminating). So I can start in today just doing regular work...not too much catch-up. My boss is out until Friday, which makes the office have a vacation feel.

    I had a nice long talk with a work friend who is retiring in a few months. He's kind of wondering what he will do with himself, but is in no way considering staying...he's put it off for several years now. I suggested he get a puppy, considering the amount of time our new addition takes up. He thought that was actually a possibility!

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited March 2010

    Shelia I know its so dam hard not to worry,  but try your best not to,  research the path report, but just remember for every positive thing you can find on the web you will find a negative (scary) thing, it can drive you nuts.

    Karen you sure are busy with the house,  don't worry I would not have been mad if you had slipped, 

    Well I started the Gabapertin yesturday so far so good,  of coarse I have only taken three,  he has me taking 300mg's 3 times a day along with the other pain meds.  I do think this AM the nasty leg sensations (like a weird kind of ache and numbness) is better. HOPING HOPING, no word on PET yet,  when I had my first one after DX in 06 it took BCBS almost 2.5wks to send the approval. Idiots.

    Leeze thank you,  poor Landen is really hating DR's now,  when Amanda took him yesturday she said he is fine in the waiting room,  but as soon has he has to start walking down the hall to exam room -  well lets just say it is loud.  On Monday @ the neuroligist office guess they will be doing an EEG,  thta should be fun,  I am going with her then,  she is nervous to go alone,  scared. The peds Dr yesturday mentione to her that he might be having Absence Seizures used to be called Petit Mal,  he does this funny little quiver thing with his upper body for just a few seconds,  like he is having a cold chill,  anywway we all have thought he was doing it himself, like

    trying to be silly,  frankly always brought a chuckle to everyone,  sooooooooooo who knows.

    Leeza yes breast cancer does commonly spread to the bones,  but again try not to worry,  I guess one of the scariest things I have learned this year and again not wanting to worry anyone is that bone mets most commonly is caused (spread) through the blood not lymphatic system,  that was my first reaction to Onco  -  I HAD CLEAN NODES,  for me it didn't matter.  But I have also learned while it will/has effected my daily living to a certian degree (mainly the pain) and while I will need to make some adjustments if it stays contained and we can get pain control I very well can be around a good long while. I would much rather at this point control pain with meds (as long as I can function on them) than doing rads now,  but gotta get the stupid PET and see about the stupid enlarged nodes and we'll take it from there. I will share with the girls soon,  I just have to get the thoughts and words in order,  I recall after my MX, Jaclyn saying to Ed now shes is ok all the cancer is gone.

    Happy HUMP DAY XOXOXOXOXOXOXO

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited March 2010

    A month ago my boss's boss quit to go with a company that is moving in from the West coast. He brought us a lot of new business, but life goes on...Frown

    Then, Monday, my boss quit to go work with him! Cry Now I don't have a boss, or a boss's boss???

    I only saw her every month or so as we work in different stores, but hey, she could get me out of a pickle when I needed her (steal stock from another stores' invoice to fill my order for instance!).

    So, do I let her know I'd follow her???? Undecided

  • Wren
    Wren Member Posts: 324
    edited March 2010

    Cathi, You and your family are in my prayers. You sure have had more than your share of stressful situations lately.

    Everyone else, you are also in my daily prayers for peace, health, and happiness.

    Hugs,

    ~Wren

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2010

    Thanks for the update, Cathi. You continue to amaze me. Remember whose daughters Amanda and Jaclyn are. They will step up to the plate with you.

    Barbe, I say follow the money! Take over the Boss's job, stay where you are, follow the tide. Whichever gives you the best advantage.

    Wren, how are you? Would love an update. Are you coming to the hill anytime soon? I'd still like to meet someday.

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited March 2010

    Brbe I agree with Judie  -  BE THE BOSS - BE THE BOSS.

    Wren nice to here from you and Thanks for your kind thoughts. 

    Had to pop in quick to say I am elated today so happy I got the Gabapentin, I know it's only been a day and a half and anything can change,  but I think that in combo with the lower dose  pain med has done wonders,  better than anything thus far,  I still can feel just a tad bit of break through pain in my back,  so so bearable haven't popped any extra Tylenol all day.  I AM SOOOOOOOOO HAPPY. I even did a bit of cleaning today some of the tile -  I know some one is going to say DON'T OVER DUE.  I won't just felt so good to feel almost no pain.  HAPPY-HAPPY-HAPPY.

    I know my girls would step up to the plate I am not so worried about that as I am worried about how to convince them that I'll still be around for  a good time.  I am afraid that once they here the nasty C word again they will worry too much.  I know they have books and stuff about talking to younger kids,  not ssure if theres anything to help with grown children. 

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited March 2010

    Cathi, I'm thinking of you often, especially since you've outed yourself and are on a new treatment plan. I hope the pain (and everybody's flu) is gone soon, and you can resume your normal activities. My sister down the road from you has been telling me about the chilly weather. They spent a lot of that time in at their house in Mexico where it was much warmer, but the people who had rented their beach house in Indian Shores were a tad disappointed.

    Barbe...are you going to try for your boss's job?  Or do you want to follow her to the new company? Different mindset for each.

    Sheila, they are idiots if they can't find a position for you in the new location. Loyal and industrious employees are a treasure. I know the commute would be impossible and you might have to move, but staying employed in this economy is so important. If they offered one, would you take it?

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited March 2010

    Oh yes Nancy ,  I feel sorry for anyone who has come to the beach the past few months hoping for sunshine and warmer days. We have had a couple,  but sense right after Christmas it has been VERY ABNORMAL. We have pretty much had to have heat on (at least at night) for the past 2 1/2 months,  in my 11 years and Ed's 20+ neither of us has had to do that,  normally a cold day or 2 maybe three consecutive,  but not weeks/months on end.  Looks like maybe the end is in sight starting this weekend,  I love opening the doors and windows for a few         months and having the wonderful Gulf breeze and smells flow through the house. Hoping that happens before we are forced to turn on the A/C again.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited March 2010

    Geez, we haven't turned our furnace on for three years in a row now! You guys would FREEZE up here! We get well below zero all through the winter. We use as gas fireplace in our livingroom as our only source of heat and are quite happy with it. We do wear slippers though....

    Nancy, not sure if I qualify or am near the front of the line for my boss's job. I'd rather follow her I think. I left a message on her cell phone yesterday congratulating her and telling her that if she needs a female million dollar writer to keep me in mind. Now I let fate do it's thing.

  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited March 2010

    Hi everyone, I woke up at 3.30 am and decided to get on the computer. I hate the way I wake up so early and start to worry about things that don't bother me as much during the day.

    Cathi, I think about you each day. I'm so glad to hear that the new pain med is working well for you. I hope you get some warm weather soon. Also, hoping that the appointment for Landon goes well and that he is not too scared. Poor little guy. I had those absence seizures when I was a kid. My brother used to pick me up while I was having one and run with me to another room or area. When it was over (only a matter of seconds or minutes I think) I would be very confused as to how I got to where I was because I had no awareness during the seizure. My mother thought I was just a bit dreamy and it wasn't until a friend with medical training suggested that she take me to a specialist that she made an appointment for me. I had an ECG and was dx. I grew out of it by the time puberty started.

    Sheila, I hope your experience and dedication in your job brings you something better. Also, I'm sorry to hear about your concerns re your cervix. I do know several people who have had abnormal pap tests and most were just inflammation.  I hope you get your path report soon and you will know just what you are dealing with.

    I think I will try to go back to sleep now. Love to everyone here.

    Jane xoxoxox

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited March 2010

    I got the path report today in the mail it had the phrase 'reactive cells'.  I went to Dr. Google again with that phrase and found that 'cervical cells show evidence of tissue repair due to infection or trama to the cervix and to repeat pap again in 6 months'. I guess I can breath now since it doesn't indicate cancer but just some cellular changes.

    Sheila

  • portiasproudmom
    portiasproudmom Member Posts: 2,125
    edited March 2010

    I'm so, so relieved for you, Sheila! 

    Cathi, I'm glad that your new medication is helping control your pain.  Not even one extra Tylenol?  That is so great!!!!!!

    Hugs to all,

    Karen 

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited March 2010

    Yeah Shelia,  good news. You have had your share of bad news/luck so far this 2010.

    Jane none of us had any clue some of Landens little movements or quivers were actually possibly seizures either until his Peds DR Pointed them out as that possibility.  Today I had him out grocery shopping with me and he was sitting in the cart (it's built like a big race car,  kinda hard to maneuver but he loves it) anyway he just lays back in the cart at first I don't think to much,  then I look at his little hand holding the cookie from the bakery and it is just lightly shaking I bend around an stare at him right smack in his face -  NOTHING,   the PEDS DR told us if we see him tremble his hand or leg to grap it in ours  - if it stops its just normal if it keeps trembling it is a seizure, it kept moving,  like you said Jane only a few seconds a minute or so tops.  Amanda has to keep a journal of all this stuff for Neurologist. Of coarse as ME-MA I have been reading up and seeing what questions we might need to answer,  I have noted in a ton of articles that speech can be delayed with these,  Landen is a month younger than Brandt and is no where near talking as Brandt, Landen understands perfectly and can make you understand his needs by taking you to what he wants but it si mostly pointing and a grunting sound he makes,  they talk to him all the time as we all do about the only word he really says and thats not clear is BALL (he loves balls) so I do have some questions about that. My older brother used to have epilepy seizures when he was very young, he out grew them as a teen ager also. 

    Yes Karen PAIN CONTROL is a wonderful thing,  yup not a single extra Tylenol with the 2 scripts, best combo yet.  I mean I  still have discomfort  - but totally tolerable,  I suppose if I did take a tylenol or two it might be 100% gone for a few hours,  but I really don't see the need. The one that I was a bit scared to take is every 8 hours so far by about 7 hours I can really start to feel the ache creeping back in,  but then I can take the other pain med which I can tak every 12 hours,  I have it scheduled pretty well now.  Again so far so good-  SO HAPPY.

  • Ezscriiibe
    Ezscriiibe Member Posts: 598
    edited March 2010

    1Cathi, I'd like to pass along what I know from my experience with medications like Gabapertin. It's the generic name for Neurontin, which I took for probably 5 years or more for the same thing.

    I have had neuropathy for years. Probably 10 or more. It was the result of some lower spine damage from an autoaccident.

    The reason why those medications also show use for epilepsy and bi-polar is because they work in a different way than pain meds do.

    Neuropathy affects nerve conduction. Medications like that directly address nerve conduction issues. They "calm" the "firings" which can result in the odd sensations, the pins and needles, "electric shocks." 

    In many cases the doctors will start you out at the lowest level to see if that is effective. If it doesn't work, it doesn't mean that the medication itself isn't working, it just means your dosage may need to be adjusted up. And the doctor should do that incrementally.

    My neuropathy was gradually progressive. Which meant that the dosage I was on needed to be adjust upwards from time to time. Sometimes when that happens people automatically think that they are building up a tolerance to the medication. But they are not. It just means that the neuropathy is progressing and requires a greater dosage.

    But because it works on nerve conduction, it does not really affect your mind, like some pain medications can. 

    I eventually started needing to reduce my dosage level and now I don't take any at all. I do get some periods of neuropathy back, but it's usually when I've been under a great deal of physical stress.

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited March 2010

    Thank you for your insight Michele,  thats pretty much why Dr prescribed it  -  for those "SENSATIONS" and pins and needles,  I don't quite get all the mets thing yet,  but aparently from what I unserstand about mune and location some part of it is effecting my siatic nerve which causes the tremendous SENSATIONS, and they have been completely unbearable sometimes.  My cloudy foggy feeling with it should subside after a bit, if not it is  a SE I caan tolerate for a few hours.  I am on 300MG 3X  A day he did say it could up dosage if needed,  I read that some (mostly seizure/bipolar) patients take up to 1500MG a day -

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited March 2010

    OH Girls I must complain and vent now that the cats out of the bag.  Having a most awful day, started about 6:30 this AM was awoke with a horrible pain in my hip/leg, and while the meds have relieved it some,  it is just awful, I can't sit,  walk, lay nothing amakes it better,  I guess I jumped for joy to soon. So upset and frustrated I just wanna cry.  Why can't they get the pain managable, this freakin sucks. I HATE IT.

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