February 2010 radiation starts anyone?

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  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited February 2010

    5 down 23 to go.   I really do wish there was some definitive "protocol" for what to use on your skin.  Seems recommendations range from absolutely nothing to slathering up many times a day with all kinds of stuff!   All week I used Miaderm, a cream developed by radiation oncologists which contains calendula and other stuff, and experienced only mild reddening in my scar area.   Last night, on the recommendation of a friend, I tried Emu Oil and this morning...no redness!   I found the Emu Oil at a health food store.  Beware...it is really pricey!

    Patty

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited February 2010

    7 down, 26 to go. I'm still just a little pink. The main feeling I have is some swelling and tenderness, kind of like when I was pregnant, only in just 1 breast, of course. I tend to sleep on my stomach, and while it doesn't hurt enough to wake me up if I roll over on my stomach, it sure hurts in the morning when I wake up. So far, I find that wearing a bra is more comfortable than not wearing one, since a bra keeps the girls from jiggling around!

    Mary

  • TiffanyF4
    TiffanyF4 Member Posts: 171
    edited February 2010

    I have completed 10 out of 33 rads.  I'm starting to feel the heat and it's getting uncomfortable. It is annoying having to go 5 days a week but it must be done.  My issue is that I am having breathing issues and I'm wondering if it is due to the radiation. My Rad Onc. doesn't seem to think so but I'm not so sure. Anyone else having this issue?

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited February 2010

    I am not having breathing issues, but I have this funny little dry cough reflex thing going on about an hour after treatment. I plan on asking my radiation onc. about it this week, but I'm guessing it's from the radiation skimming my lungs.

    Mary

  • SoCalDawn
    SoCalDawn Member Posts: 51
    edited February 2010

    Bichonlvr, you might want to check out the Jan Rads thread as there were several that had rads in prone position.

    Re: the breathing issues...I was/am a little concerned about this as well.  I had a bout with pneumonia last year with a lingering breathing issue that seems to be asthma and had to use Advair every day for awhile. I now only use it about once a week but I do take Prilosec every day to reduce acid reflux which has helped. But there is a another thread on this site refering to radiation aggravating breathing issues.

    I bought some more calendula cream from whole foods tonight and asked about Emu Oil. They didn't have any but she said I was the 4th person to ask and they are going to look into getting some...

    Cheers!   

  • chinablue
    chinablue Member Posts: 545
    edited March 2010

    Looks like I am allergic to the Xclair cream that was prescribed by my rad onc. Ug.  Now, I am to use biafine topical emulsion twice a day.  Anyone else using it?

    6 done, 22 to go 

  • bichonlvr03
    bichonlvr03 Member Posts: 84
    edited March 2010

    I've noticed I am a little light-headed after treatment, as I am leaving cancer center.  I thought it might be that I am possibly breathing funny since I am in prone position, but I am not sure.  Anyone else notice this?  I probably will mention it to my rad. onc.

  • edenh
    edenh Member Posts: 16
    edited March 2010

    I too am using the Biafine cream twice a day, and Cetaphil cream and sometimes Neutrogena body oil as well. I am very pink but my rad onc isn't concerned. I am also feeling the heat... breast is tender as well. I have finished 7 treatments so far. I am getting stressed out about getting there on time, only sometimes to sit and wait until it is my turn. Today it took the therapists so long to get me into position. 

     I will try to go see about the Emu Oil... Laughing 

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited March 2010

    I am actually LESS pink this week than I was last week-I'm thinking that last week's tenderness and swelling were a PMS issue because I started my period today and some of the swelling has gone down. I had my 9th treatment(out of 33) today and I am starting to be aware of a little fatigue about an hour after treatment. Fortunately, I have my treatments at the end of my work day, so I can go home and rest.

    The radiation techs at my center are the best! They are so kind and make me feel so comfortable.

  • dharmamama
    dharmamama Member Posts: 138
    edited March 2010

    Just a quick question- I had my first radiation treatment today. A couple of hours after treatment I exercised and had a great deal of pain when I would inhale. By the evening, my chest and under arm muscles were burning. I have heard of radiation causing lung and muscle pain, but usually towards the end of treatment. Certainly not from the start. Has anyone else experienced this?

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited March 2010

    SoCalDawn - Do you have Jimbo's in your area?   I got the Emu Oil there.   I had to ask for help finding it because it is a small bottle and in a place I didn't expect.

    Dharmamama - I haven't had any pain or burning (6TX down, 22 to go).  It doesn't seem quite right that you are experiencing this after just one TX.    Better ask the doc!

    Patty

  • jacee
    jacee Member Posts: 1,384
    edited March 2010

    Just checking in. Today will be #18 of 30. Starting to turn darker than "pink". Getting some little bumps that itch like crazy in the center of my chest. I'm getting rads to the internal mammary nodes and this area will become the worst according to my rad onc. At my appt this week he told me if I don't turn red enough, he will INCREASE the dose....makes me wonder why I'm bothering to put all this stuff on my skin!! Anyway, discomfort level is definitely increasing, but is still tolerable. Started with some biafine ointment yesterday for the itching. Didn't notice it helping much.

    Haven't had much feeling in chest since mastectomy, so the fact that I can "feel" quite a bit of pain now makes me think it is really hurting, more than what I feel....does that even make sense??

    Dharma- didn't have any pain that quick. Be sure and ask about it.

    Hope you all are faring well.....keep fighting!!!

    Joni

  • SoCalDawn
    SoCalDawn Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2010

    Just finished 12/34

    YramAl- The same thing happened to me (PMS thing). The second week was much better than the first. I still have swelling and dr says I will continue to have but the 1st week I think it was magnified.

    msmpatty - I have never seen Jimbo's but the techs told me about a distributor to call (Emu Oil) so I will do that.

    Jacee - I had the itchy bumps show up today. Tech told me cortizone cream then all other topical ointments...anything to keep the itching at bay so as to not damage the skin.

    dharmamomma- I have noticed my lung capacity is a bit diminished by comparison but I agree that it seems awfully soon and definitely worth asking about.

    I am definitely tired today. I had a middle-of-the-night acid reflux adventure. So I think that may be why my butt is draggin' today but I can feel the energy level has been zapped a bit. I am feeling the underside of my breast may be starting to get a little angry. I have to be very dillegent about the skin to skin contact issue. I met with a different rad onc yesterday and he said I am a prime candidate for severe skin reactions and if they need to do the boosts in the middle of the 34 treatments instead of the end, they may do so in order to give the skin a break. Air flow is also really important. It's a bit of a challenge to keep the breast "still" and air it out but I do know this is temporary.

    Cheers ladies! 

  • MaryNY
    MaryNY Member Posts: 1,584
    edited March 2010

    I never heard of Jimbo's before either. It seems that they are just in CA - with stores in  Escondido, Carlsbad and two stores in San Diego.

    My onc has so far only suggested Aloe Vera gel and cornstarch. She said if I do have blistering, it would likely only be in the fold under the breast, so she stressed the imporatance of keeping that area dry by dusting with cornstarch.

    I would like to locate emu oil though, in case I need it. Is it true that this is used more after radiation is completed?

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited March 2010

    I have been using a Glaxol base cream three times a day as part of a trial..So far (10/25) not problems...my skin is only slightly pink.  I know you can get it at pharmacies here in Canada..

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited March 2010

    SoCalDawn and MaryNY - I'd be happy to pick up the Emu Oil and mail it to you.   Send me a PM with your address and I'll hop right on it.   (I live in San Diego and Jimbo's is right around the corner.) 

    SoCalDawn - Do you mind if I ask why your doc thinks you are prime candidate for skin reactions?  It is related to your skin tone or reaction to the sun?

    Joni - Gosh...here we are trying to prevent redness and your doc is actually aiming for it!  Can you fake him out with some strategically applied lipstick?  HA!  Hope your little bumps calm down soon....the end is in sight!

    Patty

  • MaryNY
    MaryNY Member Posts: 1,584
    edited March 2010

    msmpatty: Thanks for your generous offer. There's a WholeFoods nearby. They might have it. I'm not at the stage where I need it yet (which reminds me to put on the Aloe Vera goo) but when I do and if I can't find it locally, I'll contact you.

    Just had a brainwave. I thought emu oil sounded familiar, looked in the medicine cabinet and there was a jar of it. About five years ago, I had some knee pain  and got this at a local independently owned pharmacist at the suggestion of the saleperson. It really worked well at the time. But it's been there a long time. It smells OK though. This jar is labelled "New Emu—Mellow Melon Scent." Ingredients include aloe vera, MSM, emu oil, willow bark extract, arnica extract. Does this sound like a similar product to yours or is yours pure emu oil?

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited March 2010

    OK ladies-

    I was curious about Emu oil so I googled it, and maybe people already knew this, but it is an oil that comes from the fat pad on the back of the Emu bird. That put a picture in my mind of putting chicken fat on my breast! Having said that, though, it sounds like it has healing and inflammatory properties. I may put that picture out of my mind and try it myself!

    Mary 

  • DiDiT
    DiDiT Member Posts: 135
    edited March 2010

    MaryNY - I'm not using yet, but had read months ago a suggestion to put the aloe vera in the fridge - sounded like a good idea.   I had a spray bottle in the pool shed and put in the fridge right away, so far - it's just been good for 'conversation' - BUT if I need it, it'll be COOL!

    my rad onc also recommend corn starch 3 times a day - as far as the 'fold' - I've got this softball in my chest that doesn't budge, so no fold for me - first time since I was about 12!

    Also using Vanicream at night - just a moisturizer for sensitive skin - only 5 down out of 28 so don't know yet...I anticipate the itchy bumps because I get them from too much sun, but apparenlty, there's no correlation between response to sun and radiation?

    Di Di

  • lieberman1
    lieberman1 Member Posts: 42
    edited March 2010

    Hi Ladies.  I am hoping you can help me with a question I have regarding my Mom's radiation treatment.  She is 68 years old and has had three treatments so far.  She is already exhausted and her back is starting to hurt pretty bad.  I am so worried that she will not be able to continue with the treatments because of her age.  Can you tell me if it is normal that she is so tired already?

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited March 2010

    Lieberman1-

    I have had 10 treatments so far and I am not feeling tired yet-however-I am not 68 years old(I'm 50). Did your mom have chemo? Maybe she is still tired from that. She should definitely mention this to her doctor. I can see why her back would be hurting....if her treatment is anything like mine, she has to put her arms up over her head and hold them that way for a few minutes each time. My shoulders and neck are starting to hurt a little now. 

    Best of luck for your mom.

    Mary

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited March 2010

    Lieberman, I too am feeling good.  I was told that the exhausted feeling wouldn't start until about week three.  I have sore/tired legs but that is left over from Chemo..how long of a break did she have from chemo..It couldn't hurt to chat with her doc.

  • SoCalDawn
    SoCalDawn Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2010

    I am 14 down out of 34

    msmpatty...you are sooo sweet to offer to pick Emu Oil up and send. I did already call someone locally who is a distributor so I think I have it covered. If it doesn't pan out, I will place my order with you! :)

    maryny...be careful with the Emu product that you have. If there is a fragrance in it, it might be irritating (from what I understand)

    yramal...too funny!  

    As for being a candidate for skin reactions...I am light skin that is generally sensitive anyway but I am probably more at risk due to the size of the breast/density if I understood the explanation correctly. More skin/dense tissue apparently = stronger dose and more skin to potentially react. The itchy bumps in the middle of the chest showed up yesterday. The tech says those are generally where I would have had previous sun damage. I am using OTC cortizone but was given a RX for something stronger if I need it. I am still doing the aloe/calendula 3-4 x day (from day 1) and he says that is fine and if anything becomes less bearable he would prescribe. They also said if it gets too tender, they could do the boosts in the middle instead of the end to give the skin a chance to heal. The ibuprofen is keeping the swelling discomfort to a minimum. I am placing soft fabric under the breast and/or cornstarch to keep it dry and protect from skin to skin contact. Airing out also is said to be very important. I am a little more tired the last couple of days and they said getting 30 mins of walking or similar exercise is very important. Dragging my butt out soon to do so today. :) And still doing my 200 mg of B6 also.

    btw...anyone else on a TOMO machine? The sound, to me, resembles the ticket muncher at Chuck E. Cheese ar a horse drawn carriage screamin' past. LOL

  • jacee
    jacee Member Posts: 1,384
    edited March 2010

    I just finished #19 of 30 and this week have noticed  I'm much more tired about 2 hours afterward. I'm also terribly sore in muscles and joints, but I know this is from the Femara. Don't know that I can continue that for 5 years!!!

    Lieberman-I'm 50 and haven't had any pain that I can attribute to radiation except on the skin surface. Hope your mom can find some relief.

  • SoCalDawn
    SoCalDawn Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2010

    Oh and DiDit...make sure the aloe you have in the fridge doesn't have any lidocaine or similar in it...just pure or at least 98 or 99% aloe. The lidocaine will be drying. I have refrigerated my aloe too.

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited March 2010

    Mary - Chicken fat.  Yuck!  The Emu Oil I have doesn't look at like chicken fat ... it is white and more creamy than greasy.  So get this chicken fat picture out of your mind, girl!

    SoCalDawn - Thanks for the info on the sensitivity issue.  It does make sense about the denser tissue.   I'm really surprised by how complicated, not to mention mysterious, this radiation business is! 

    Patty

  • MaryNY
    MaryNY Member Posts: 1,584
    edited March 2010
    msmpatty: I'm being malignedCry, YramAL was the one who mentioned chicken fat.
  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited March 2010
  • MaryNY
    MaryNY Member Posts: 1,584
    edited March 2010

    YramAL: Ah, see it now...another Mary... in the mirror. Are you in Los Angeles or Louisiana? I just thought she meant me as I mentioned emu oil in the post above yours.

    I just looked at your previous posts and see how lucky you were to have the Oncotype test to guide your treatment.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited March 2010

    MaryNY-I am actually in the Seattle area. AL are other initials from others in my family. I see that you had the oncotype test as well with what I referred to as the dreaded "18"-just above the recommended numbers for no chemo-the "gray" area. I had already decided that I would have chemo if I fell into that area, as you did.

    Mary

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