February 2010 radiation starts anyone?

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  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited February 2010

    Going for #3 of 33 tomorrow-I'll be 1/11th of the way through-yay!

    I woke up in the middle of the night on Friday feeling strangely "caffeinated". I felt as if I had had a cup of espresso before going to bed. I'm not sure if it's a side effect of the radiation, or maybe a delayed stress reaction to the new experience. Anyone else have this?

    Mary

  • chinablue
    chinablue Member Posts: 545
    edited February 2010

    I just had my first rad treatment. It was a little nerve wracking, but not bad at all. 

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited February 2010

    I think it is getting easier...that first one was long...my second was only 15 min. Not so bad..day 3 today...

  • edenh
    edenh Member Posts: 16
    edited February 2010

    I just had my frst treatment this morning. Not as bad as I thought. My run through last week was pretty tough, emotionally and physically. I was totally rude to the therapists ( I apologized this morning to them!) and just not in the mood for talking. Everyone told me this seemed normal behavior. I am usually a very nice person! Anyway, nice to read all these posts from everyone. Today was my first of 35. So one down, 34 more to go... hang in there with me girls!! 

    xoxo 

  • april2010
    april2010 Member Posts: 21
    edited February 2010

    Hi I was just wondering if I am making a wrong decision about having radiation treatments. I have a masectomy and double clear margins and no lymph node involvement. I did have IDC with 5 centimeter tumor in total. I have been reading all your posts and no one fits my criteria. Can you help me. Not sure if I am jumping to quickly into this radiation thing.

  • chinablue
    chinablue Member Posts: 545
    edited February 2010

    daysone - What did your onc say?  How about your breast surgeon?  You can always take your pathology report to a rad onc and get their opinion too?  Hang in there.  

  • chinablue
    chinablue Member Posts: 545
    edited February 2010

    I went for my second rad treatment yesterday.  The rad onc, nurses and techs were so nice.  What a change from the chemo crew!  They even offered me a weekly massage and set me up with a PT for my cording (all of my other doctors said to ignore it and I have had it since Aug).   

    Unfortunately, after my second treatment, I started to turn red.  The scar from my mx turned color too.  I got a rash on my back.  The rad onc suggested I continue with Xclair 3 times a day.  In addition to that, I am to put silverdene cream on my scar and cover my whole breast with a petroleum pad each night.  It is messy, but I don't want to burn to a crisp. 

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited February 2010

    Daysone, I know for me it was an easy decision...I want to do everything possible to make sure  that I never have  to deal with cancer again...at least I can say I did everything I could.  But you should have a good chat with the rads onc..

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited February 2010

    Well, I'm down into the 20's now-29 treatments left! I'm a little pink but not too bad. I'm planning on wearing a bra as long as possible and no problems so far. I know it's early, but I'm hoping for the best. Planning for the worst, but hoping for the best!

    Mary

  • april2010
    april2010 Member Posts: 21
    edited February 2010

    My surgeon said that she didn't feel that I needed radiation or chemo because my margins were double what they needed to be when she did the masectomy. Also I had no positive lymph nodes. After going to the chemo onco. he recommeded that I have 4 treatments of TC  because of the size of the tumor, so I did do that. Now the chemo doctor recommended that I see the radiation doctor and I saw him yesterday. He recommended that I do five weeks of radiation because of the size of my tumor. He also said that 35 out of 100 women the cancer will return to the area and if I happen to be one of the 35 women that I would decrease my chances of it coming back to 3 percent. He said that there was not any tests to tell if I was one of the 35 so it is for safety purposes because of the size of the tumor. I noticed on the postings that women I am reading had a lumpectomy and not a masectomy. So this did make me wonder if there were women out there that had a masectomy with no lymph node involvement that were having radiation. I am nervous about having radiation because of the long term side effects like lung damage and getting secondary cancer from the radiation. I am not sure what to do and I have a lot of questions about everything. Thank you for your help. I apprectiate any input I can get!

  • precioustime
    precioustime Member Posts: 233
    edited February 2010

    Daysone- I had a BMX with axilla dissection and am doing RADS --BUT I had 12 of 18 lymph nodes positive.  However, I have heard that even though we had Mastectomies that there is no way of taking all of the breast tissue and that also cancer can return to scar line area.  (Ladies please correct me if I am wrong)... 

    My margins were clear with my BMX -- however, I am still getting RADS to the chest wall area as well as axilla, supraclivicular and mediastinal areas. 

    I also wanted everyone to know that there is a January RAD thread with great info. on it.  I am going back and forth from that thread to this oneSmile

    Today will be 18 down and 15 more to go!!!

    Loretta

  • jacee
    jacee Member Posts: 1,384
    edited February 2010

    daysone- my rad onc told me the chance of having a broken bone due to rads is 1 in 100. (rib I suppose), the chance of getting a different cancer from the radiation itself is 1 in 300. He said I would have scar tissue in my lung, but shouldn't cause any problems. He said no different than having a tumor in my lung that is removed and leaves scarring behind. While these statistics are concerning to me, I really felt I had no choice. I want to do all I can to prevent a reoccurence.

    Keep asking questions.

  • MaineCoonKitty
    MaineCoonKitty Member Posts: 125
    edited February 2010

    "So this did make me wonder if there were women out there that had a masectomy with no lymph node involvement that were having radiation."

    Yep....that would be me!  I have a very rare type of breast cancer - phyllodes tumor.  The conventional treatment plan says that Phyllodes does not respond to either chemo or radiation.  Guess what?  WRONG!  Mine did.  Phyllodes is so rare (400 diagnosed cases annually) that the last clinical trial was done in 1995!

    I had a very large, quick growing tumor on my left side.  It was so large that whe I had the mastectomy, I lost 22 lbs.  There was no lymph node involvement because phyllodes doesn't normally metasize through the lymph nodes - it travels through blood vessels.  Even though the tumor was huge, my surgeon got completely clear margins.  Normally, treatment for phyllodes consists of mastectomy.  Period.  But because of the size of my tumor, my oncology team decided to involve a world-class expert on phyllodes in my treatment plan.  They presented my case to the Tumor Board, and even though most conventional wise said "That's it. No further treatment", my team decided to think outside the box and try both chemo and rads on me.  They gave me the option for both and I jumped at the chance.

     So now, because I have responded to both chemo and rads, I am now the "Guinea Pig" for phyllodes cases that follow me and the basis for a new clinical trial that my team is putting together.

    My best advice to you is to do the rads and fight with everything you have.  Don't sacrifice long-term gains because of short-term discomfort.  Rads are very easy....hell...chemo is very easy compared to having to deal with a recurrence that might have been stopped!  If nothing else, you will have the peace of mind that comes with knowing that you did everything you can to fight this beast.

    Go for it, girlfriend!

  • c2will
    c2will Member Posts: 91
    edited February 2010

    I went for my simulation today.  The first treatment will be done on Monday, since we're expecting more snow on Thursday & Friday.  I am SOOO ready to start, yet nervous at the same time.  So while I started out on the January start, I'm ending up with a March start!

  • chinablue
    chinablue Member Posts: 545
    edited February 2010

    c2will - It must be so hard to wait.  All I can suggest is to enjoy your time and not let the nervousness get to you.  

    When I get nervous, I try to distract myself with non-bc things like projects around the house, kids, cooking, exercise, relaxation breathing, anything really.   I would love to hear other people's suggestions on this.

  • jteach
    jteach Member Posts: 199
    edited February 2010

    After I write this I will be leaving for my 7th of 28.  That means I will be 1/4 of the way done!!!!!!!!!! :)   My sunburn has begun and is mostly in my armpit area, making my node disection site red.  I'm hoping for the best.

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited February 2010

    Carol, I know how nervous you must feel, I too was freaking out...my first was about 40 minutes, but it was easy..then all the rest have been super fast and easy...I am in and out in about 12-15 minutes.   If I get there early they often get me in and out quick.  Once you get past the first two it is a piece of cake.

    6 down...19 to go.

  • SoCalDawn
    SoCalDawn Member Posts: 51
    edited February 2010

    9 of 33 down. The emotional SE's were my biggest issues the first week...it didn't help that I was massively PMS'ing and didn't realize. All is better now and 200 mg of B6 helps with that too. Both surgical sites are very red, bottom half of breast very pink and creeping up, edema makes it more tender than anything so doc said ibuprofen 3x day and that has helped. Still lathering aloe, calendula on 4x/day, occasionally Aquaphor but not crazy about the stickiness of petroleum jelly (which is what it is). I am still drinking aloe in my juice, lots of water. refrigerated fish oil supplements and lots of fresh fruit/veggies. I haven't started the 6 oz of red wine at night yet. By the time we are done with son's homework, my work and dinner, it's time for bed. Maybe I should have it for lunch!?! Hah...just kidding. Maybe. :)  BTW, the tech said airing out is a huge key to minimizing the skin issues...personal fan, whatever it takes and continues to highly recommend Emu Oil and 30 mins of light exercise daily.  Cheers, my Fabulous Feb Rads Friends....we must come up with a clever acronym or name, don't you think?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2010

    13 out of 35! One third of the way! Yippee! Went in early because of snow storm and they took me right in. We got back home before the roads were awful. I'm not sure if we will make it tomorrow, but I'll have a long weekend to heal. Not too many side effects just some tanning and a little pain now and then. Been lathering on the Aquaphor after treatments.

  • jacee
    jacee Member Posts: 1,384
    edited February 2010

    Curious what you ladies are hearing about using oils on your skin. I was using coconut oil and Vit E oil. The nurse told me don't ever use oil as it would magnify the effects of rads....like oil and laying in the sun. So, I'm back to aquaphor.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited February 2010

    SoCal Dawn-

    Were you able to find a brand of calendula lotion that has no fragrance or color? I thought I had found one, but when I took it in to show the nurse, she told me that natural fragrances-essential oils-were still fragrances-duh!

    I have 5 visits down, 28 to go. My main problem seems to be some swelling in my breast, so that when I take my bra off at the end of my workday, there's a definite line where my bra was. It doesn't hurt...I'm also slightly pink, and feel a bit PMS-ish, but nothing too bad.

  • cocojo
    cocojo Member Posts: 15
    edited February 2010

    20 of 25 rads done! Starting the more "concentrated" rads today for 5 last treatments. So far SE have been fatique and skin issues...nipple, beneath breast and underarm are reddened and sore. Hope it doesn't get worse :( My radio-oncologist has had me putting on cold compresses 2 times a day for 2 minutes each time to help prevent skin problems. He said absolutely no creams...I don't understand why managing SE differ so much from one place to the next. Anyone else told not to use creams?

  • chinablue
    chinablue Member Posts: 545
    edited February 2010

    I had an allergic reaction to the Xclair cream that was prescribed for me, so I was told not to use it.

    Instead, I am to continue with silvadene cream on my mx (diep) scar at night covering the whole breast with a petroleum patch at night.  I am to wash all of it off for my morning treatment.  On Monday, they are to give me a new prescription for cream that is to be applied after each rad treatment.  The rad onc says she is "very concerned" about my scar.  I had major blistering after surgery and now I have a one inch wide and 5 inch long scar on my diep breast.  My scar has turned a deep red after only 4 treatments.  Ug.

    4 down 24 to go 

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited February 2010

    I am in a study comparing two creams...it is a small study of either 20 or 40 (can't remember the number)  I was given Glaxol based cream to put on three times a day.  I started the morning of my first treatment.  It is to see which one works better..Both are similar to each other.  I believe you can get glaxol base cream at the pharmacy..something to ask about if you want to try something different.  So far I have had no problems.  Now it has only been 6 treatments..

  • SoCalDawn
    SoCalDawn Member Posts: 51
    edited February 2010

    YramAL et al,

    I am using a Calendula cream I found at Whole Foods. I will get back to you with the name. I don't detect a scent so I will check it out. It is strange to have such a disparity of opinions amongst the radiation oncologists. Mine is certainly insistent upon certain cremes (nothing drying) and nothing applied up to 4 hours before treatment and washing with only unscented dove soap if I have to use soap at all on the areas being treated. They advocate patting dry gently. They overwhelmingly recommend the Emu Oil so I suspect it has similar moisturizing qualities as the Vit E Oil. As for Aquaphor, well it is petroleum jelly which is oil in a different form but I would imagine at a certain point if the skin is starting to break down, this particular form is the most protective of the skin. I have heard lots speak highly of the domebro soaks  as well.

    The swelling/edema is the most uncomfortable thing for me but still bearable. Dr suggested ibuprofen which made a difference in my comfort.

  • edenh
    edenh Member Posts: 16
    edited February 2010

    Finished 5 out of 33 today. I also seem to be pinkish and my breast does seem swollen. I have Biafine cream to try, but I have been using Cetaphil creme. I will try to get the Calendula cream at Whole Foods, can't hurt. Can someone tell me what Emu Oil is? I haven't heard of using Domeboro, I used to use that on my kids when they had diaper rash!! 

  • SoCalDawn
    SoCalDawn Member Posts: 51
    edited February 2010

    Re: Emu Oil - I think there are many distributors and I haven't looked up the one my onc has referred but here's a site that has some good info. It appears that the benefits touted are a moisturizer with anti-inflamatory properties that is non-greasy...for what it's worth...

    I am 9 down as of today...starting to get a little itchy tonight as I wasn't able to stop and "re-grease" mid-day today like usual.

    Have a wonderful weekend, ladies! 

  • SoCalDawn
    SoCalDawn Member Posts: 51
    edited February 2010
  • Karen09
    Karen09 Member Posts: 320
    edited February 2010

    I just finished #15 of 21 yesterday.  Getting there!!  I'm not complaining but I haven't really had any changes to my skin at all yet.  I hope they are doing it right!  lol!   Hang in there ladies!

  • bichonlvr03
    bichonlvr03 Member Posts: 84
    edited February 2010

    I started rads on 2/15/10 and am experiencing some redness and breast swelling & tenderness.  I am in prone position such as when I had my needle biopsy.  Anyone else placed in this position while receiving rads? 

    DX 12/17/09   dcis  0 stage 1.3 cm  grade 2

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