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cherneski
cherneski Member Posts: 726
Gabrielle~ Have I been is such a fog that I never knew you before, or did you take a break from the board for a while.  You have had me peeing my pants for the last 2 days.  OMG you are one of the funnies people ever!  I just wanted to show you some love as you have made my day repeatedly.Wink

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  • Gabrielle
    Gabrielle Member Posts: 73
    edited February 2010

    Hi Deb!

     Here I be.  Laughing  No, I never used to participate much.  I think I've been registered for a few years, though.  I would just drop in from time to time.

    Love your messages too.  You write with a lot of raw honesty which I admire -- makes the exchange of messages more interesting!  I share your philosophy too about hating this m-f-ing disease.  Keep fighting!  I have your back.

    Hugs,

    Gabrielle

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited February 2010

    Gabrielle...Your comment about "Did they take it all? No, I asked them to leave some behind"

    was priceless. I read that post so many times, tears in my eyes from laughing.

    Thanks.

    SheilaWink

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2010

    Not sure if people have read Gabrielles stats either - she was dx in 1999! Stage 3, and NED 11 years. Way to go!!

  • Gabrielle
    Gabrielle Member Posts: 73
    edited February 2010
    >>Your comment about "Did they take it all? No, I asked them to leave some behind"

    was priceless. I read that post so many times, tears in my eyes from laughing.

     Sheila~~ , Wink.  Looks like all those years of reading Mad Magazine when I was a kid has paid off. 

    Kerry ~~, yes, I'm in my 11th year.  I'm now one of those long-time survivor stories I frantically searched for when I was first diagnosed.  I have no secrets to share other than I was very aggressive with treatment.  My kids were 9 and 12 at the time.  I think something primal kicks in when you have small kids.  But, I attribute most of it (survival) to just dumb luck. 

    Cheers, Gabrielle  

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited February 2010

    Hi Gabrille-what was your treatment if you don't mind me asking?:)

  • Gabrielle
    Gabrielle Member Posts: 73
    edited February 2010

    >>what was your treatment if you don't mind me asking?:)

    mastectomy; prophylactic mastectomy; prophylactic hysterectomy; adria/cytox/taxotere; 52 rounds of Herceptin; radiation.

    ----

    I turned down an initial trial because I might have been randomly selected for a leg that didn't receive cytoxan. 

    I changed Oncs when my first Onc wanted to hold off on the Herceptin until I recurred (whaaaat....  Did this guy just not hear that I have small kids??!)  Since the cancer was in 9 of my lymph nodes, my second Onc cleared me for treatment. 

    I changed gynecologists to get the hysterectomy when the first doctor challenged my decision by asking me (I kid you not and I'm paraphasing) "what are you going to do next....have all your skin removed if you get skin cancer?)  I found a gynocologist who agreed to the procedure and just said (bless her heart) "when do you want to have it?" when I poured out this experience with the first ass**** doctor to her. 

    I decided to have the prophylactic mastectomy on the good breast even after a visiting doctor to our breast cancer support group expressed general disagreement with the idea of whacking off body parts. 

    I made these decisions regading the prophylactic mastectomy and hysterectomy when one of the Oncs I saw (I saw four in total) said, my chances of developing another primary and/or ovarian cancer had doubled to 25% as a result of the first primary.  That percentage (again .... small kids) was just too high for me to live with. 

    I have no idea if any of these decisions are the reason I'm alive.  The one thing I've learned about cancer is that there is no consensus in the medical community regarding treatment and that's because there is so much uncertainity about cancer.  So, I followed my shouting inner voice and doggedly pursued what I thought was best for me. 

    But, I'm humbled by cancer too.  I know the friends I had who passed on, fought just as hard as I did -- and through no fault of their own, and not for lack of trying, lost the fight.

    So, who knows? 

  • Faith316
    Faith316 Member Posts: 2,431
    edited February 2010

    It is SO ENCOURAGING to read --- dx with Stage 3 and now NED for 11 years!! 

  • mmm5
    mmm5 Member Posts: 1,470
    edited February 2010

    Gabrielle

    At what point did you receive Herceptin? Wondering if you were in a trial as I didn't think they gave it to anyone but stage V until 2004.

    If you were in the herceptin trial how are the other gals doing?

    You really do bring much hope here and on Her2 thread thanks so much!

    With you having a Hysterect, did you also have an AI or Tamox?

  • Billynda
    Billynda Member Posts: 121
    edited February 2010

    Gabrielle, you are on my ever growing list of heroes:)  I have been toying with the idea of hysterectomy.  I know I'm young, but my GM died of ovarian cancer - plus that is exactly why I want to get it.  I don't want to put birth control in my body for years and years!  And condoms?  Bleh.  Now that i know someone else did it as a prophylactic, I am going to push for this (just so we're clear, I know you meant prophylactic, as in preventing cancer).

    I was going to do it for certain, and then my BRCA came back with no mutations so that made me question it again.  I'd rather do it, and not ask myself later if I should have, though.  I'm not going to be using those parts again, and maybe if I get it done it will take those horomones that make me want to be a mommy again so bad.  It's much more important to be here for the two little gifts that I already have.

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2010

    Billynda - quite a few of us have had our ovaries and/or uteruses removed prophylactically (sp?). My Onc was going to give me the shots every month to shut them down, but was happy with me having them removed. The Surgery is not difficult. I just feel better knowing there is no estrogen-making machine in my body any more!!

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited February 2010

    Billynda...I had an ooph, but still have my uterus....my insurance didn't want to pay for a TAH...they said that there is no correlation between BC and uteran cancer....onc said that there was not reason to take uterus....just ovaries......I fired my gyn 10 days before my surgery and the gyn who ended up doing my surgery also concurred that no reason to take uterus...I am glad that I had the ooph....I didn't need any of the plumbing anymore....I was 50 when I had my ooph, perimenopausal and done having kids.....But I say go for what make sense for you....peace of mind is worth its weight in gold!!!!

  • Billynda
    Billynda Member Posts: 121
    edited February 2010

    I read somwhere that colon, uterine, ovarian and breast cancers are all related somehow.  I can't tell you where I read it, so take it or leave it!  It scares me because my brother died of colon cancer when he was 24 and grandmother died of ovarian cancer, she was in her 70's I believe.  So, yep peace of mind is worth its weight so I'm going to beg and plead for them to get rid of all of it. 

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2010

    They wouldn't take my uterus either. BUT, if you are taking Tamoxifen i think you are at increased risk of uterine cancer??? (not sure 100%) So having it gone could make sense.

  • Mamita49
    Mamita49 Member Posts: 538
    edited February 2010

    Kerry,

     I am debating with my surgeon to have ooph. Now, where did you read about the increased risk of uterine cancer ???

    I will see him this week and need to discuss that with him.... 

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2010

     http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Therapy/tamoxifen

    Look at #4 and 6. I have a friend who just had a baseline Uterine biopsy as she is on tamox.Your risk is still pretty low though.

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited February 2010

    I see onc. on Wed. and plan on asking if durning recon they can take everything out.  I have no need for body parts that are just waiting for cancer to grow.  Mom was stage 1 ovarian cancer, Aunt (fathers side) stage lv no longer with us.  I want it gone.

    My OBGYN thinks its a good idea, who do I make plans with?  Which Dr?  

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2010

    Mine was done by a regular OB/Gyn. I was referred to her by my Onc.

  • Faith316
    Faith316 Member Posts: 2,431
    edited February 2010

    OB/GYNs are surgeons.  They do it.

  • Billynda
    Billynda Member Posts: 121
    edited February 2010

    Sweet!  I love my OB/GYN.

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited February 2010

    I am having mine done in 3 weeks. I am 100% er positive so I really want it gone. There are studies that show that same women's estrogen can overcome thoe shots-and with my luck that would be me. I am dreading doing it though I didn't want more kids the fact that this decision is permanent and being made for me makes me sad. Billy you are ER neg you might be able to just do the shots and be fine.

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2010

    It is funny you say that - we weren't having any more kids - my husband had had a vasectomy - but I struggled with it too. I had an unexpected sense of loss, more so that with my boob.

    Don't regret it though.....

  • Leah_S
    Leah_S Member Posts: 8,458
    edited February 2010

    I spoke to my onc about the ooph & hyst. He said ovarian ca & bc are related but not uterine & recommended just the ooph (VERY HIGHLY - grandma died of ovarian ca) & prophy mast.

    The tamox does put you at higher risk for uterine ca. however, the stats are that w/out the tamox, there is a 1 in 2,000 chance of developing this ca & with it, 1 in 1,000. I can live with 1 in 1,000. Onc said it's easy to spot since the first symptom of early-stage is unusual bleeding. Well, I'm post-meno so ANY bleeding would be "unusual".

    Leah

  • AnacortesGirl
    AnacortesGirl Member Posts: 1,758
    edited February 2010

    I heard similiar comments from my onc as Leah.  I'll be meeting with my BS pretty soon and plan on asking her opinion also but I expect it to be the same.  Right now I'm just planning on the oomph (including fallopian tubes).

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