Memorial Sloan-Kettering - Credible Resource?

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Do you think Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center Integrative Medicine Department is a credible resource?  http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/11570.cfm

They have a search feature for herbs, botannicals, and other products, with clearly-stated information about a lot of herbs and supplements discussed here.  I like that they provide direct links to objective, clinical, evidence-based studies for different supplements, herbs, and alternative treatments.  

Do you think it's a credible resource for alternative medicine?  Why or why not?

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  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited January 2010

    I was just there today! I walk by it everyday on the way to rads so I stopped in to say hi and they gave me cookies.

    They are having a clinical study about accupuncture and lymphadema which I thought was cool.

    MSK runs a pretty tight ship, I think their advice is safe but conservative.

  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited January 2010

    Safe but conservative advice, I couldn't have said it better.  There may be more recent studies on some of the topics listed in their herbal remedy data that hasn't made it onto their website yet.  So do some of your own research as well to see if there are updates on topics.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited January 2010

    I think an on-going problem in the alternative/complementary medicine world is the whole "if it's natural, it must be safe" idea.  We know that's not true, and yet there are so many people who read an ad and believe every word of it.  I look askance at websites that exist primarily to sell products and that also include some (often suspect) research to make them look legitimate.  MSKCC doesn't have to advertise for "customers" and does take its mandate as a cancer treatment and research centre very seriously.  There are good reasons that the site is "conservative" but safe.  I appreciate that!

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited January 2010

    I completely agree with you all.  I guess MSKCC does exist to sell a product - healthcare, but I find that they provide facts and research links to support their recommendations. 

    Very few things are black and white, and individual breast cancer treatment choices fall somewhere on the alternative-complementary/integrative-conventional spectrum but rarely, if ever, on either extreme. 

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2010

    Dr Oz had a good show about complimentary tx yesterday.  Talked a lot about integrating conventional and natural.  

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited January 2010

    I as far as I know MSK is a top-notch, leader-of-the-pack institution.  I would absolutely trust them.   And thanks for posting the link -- I'll have a look!

    Elizabeth

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited January 2010

    I have an accupunture consultation there tomorrow. I do not have arm lymphadema, so I will not be in the study. Will let you know how it goes.

    My personal MSK experience has been very positive.

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited January 2010

    Cookiegal,

    Lucky you, to be so close to a center that offers benefits like that!   From the MSKCC site:  

    The World Health Organization supports the use of acupuncture in reducing symptoms, such as depression, facial pain, headache, peripheral neuropathy, lower back pain, nausea and vomiting, neck pain, postoperative pain, shortness of breath, chronic fatigue, hot flashes and side effects caused by radiotherapy and/or chemotherapy. A recent study showed that acupunture reduces symptoms of sneezing, itching, and runny nose in children with allergies. Acupuncture also improved pregnancy rates in women following in vitro fertilization. 

    ALL THAT AND THEY GIVE YOU COOKIES, TOO? ;-D Enjoy!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2010

    Agreed. MSK is not a reliable resource. They have been caught in misrepresentations so many times, it makes your hair curl. They also have a very dubious consent form.

  • Nan56143
    Nan56143 Member Posts: 349
    edited February 2010

    lucy88

    What do you mean that MSK has "a very dubious consent form"? My friend's son (age 39), will be having his lung surgically removed there on Wednesday. He was dx with lung cancer in October, and the surgeon there insisted that he have neoadjuvant chemo, even though the onc, (in another state) recommended surgery first. The chemo not only did not work, the tumors grew larger. Cry

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2010

    Well, this is what they said. don't know if they followed through....

    No More Drug Company CME Funding at Sloan-Kettering
    Date Published: Friday, February 8th, 2008

    Memorial Sloan-Kettering Center will no longer take funds from the pharmaceutical industry for education programs. In the past, Sloan-Kettering relied on the drug industry for approximately one-quarter of its educational funding, having to make cuts in order to adapt. That has changed.

    Many people feel that medical institutions-and the medical profession, in general-should wean themselves off of the major drug money payouts of big pharmaceuticals, that today's doctor has become little more than another marketing arm for these big drug companies. Doctors are often sent on fully paid teaching trips to vacation spots and posh hotels, all paid for by big drug money. As a matter-of-fact, the drug and device industries spend more than one billion dollars each year funding continuing medical education-or CME-for doctors and other health-care providers. Many find this practice a glaring conflict of interest and there is growing concern about the drug industries' influence on the content of the education for which they are funding.

    Finally, some hospitals are looking to divest themselves from big drug money and are working at implementing their own institution-run continuing medical education programs.

    One such example of a hospital breaking out on its own is that of the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York City. Sloan-Kettering initiated its own in-house education program early last year, according to the industry trade publication Medical Meetings.

    While Sloan-Kettering has some advantages over many other hospitals, there are still some steps which can be taken by smaller facilities. In Sloan-Kettering's case, they have a world-famous and respected name. They also have a store of in-house experts and an on-site conference center that seats 350 in a popular, metropolitan area. Today, Sloan-Kettering is able to-and does-hold more meetings on the cancer center campus instead of in swanky hotel ballrooms as it had in the past. Sloan-Kettering also uses their in-house experts to give seminars instead of flying in and housing expensive speakers from out of town.

    Not every hospital has the benefit of maintaining a staff of subject matter experts to have on-hand for such events and not every hospital has a an in-house conference center that seats hundreds, but there are changes the cancer hospital made that any other institution could also easily make. For instance, Sloan-Kettering also cut back on both sending junk mail and on buying advertisement space in journals to promote its CME events to potential attendees. The cancer center also got rid of free lunches for everyone attending conferences and raised registration fees by 10% to 20% for non-Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center participants. "When you really focus on the quality of the program-and stop worrying about the amenities and the place where you can hold it-then you're looking at what the objective of CME is," Thomas Fahey, Jr., chairman of the hospital's CME committee, told Medical Meetings. "In the long run, this will keep us much more focused on what's important."

    Other professionals-attorneys and accountants, for example-do not rely on vendors, especially vendors with a financial interest in what is taught, to pay for their CME.

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