Starting Chemo Feb 2010?
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hi ladies!
had my first infusion of Taxol & Herceptin today. Between the labs, follow-up with onc, wait time & a very slow drip for first treatment, i was at the hospital for 8 hours! now i know what people mean when they say cancer is like a full time job.
luckily, all went went -- no allergic reactions or weird side effects...yet. tomorrow is a different day.
i can't belive how well i'm able to tolerate this combo. i didn't have any nausea at all (i was snacking all day long at the hospital which i think helped with this) and only had to take 12mg of steroids 4 hours prior to treatment - they should have worn off by now so shouldn't disrupt my sleep tonight.
sally - if given the choice of Taxol or Taxotere, i highly recommend the Taxol.
mo - my sis lives in philly so she told me about the snow and all the problems it's causing. best of luck getting around tomorrow and i hope they get you started on your way.
lbendl - i know what you mean about trying to figure out the hair thing. i have a wig but not sure if it's really me. maybe that means i need to find a better one? i so wish i had an iphone. that chemo app sounds very useful.
pegeyore - so sorry to hear about the recurrence. we're all here to help & support each other so feel free to lean.
teemee - my thoughts are with you....willing that nasty staph infection to go away.
faithful, writer and everyone else who has posted feedback - thank you. it's such invaluable info.
for those about to get their first treatments - i know you've heard this before but it is so true. waiting and anxiety is really the worse part. once you get going with the chemo and know what to expect, it gets easier. best of luck.
going to test out my steroid theory now. hugs to all.
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Hello there. Saw your list up above and looks like I can be added to it. I'll be starting Feb 17th.. on the TCH track.. which I didn't even know what it means as I just foung out today.. have my education with nurse tomorrow.. and port put in on Friday.. will be interesting journey as I have an 11 week old baby.. Hopefully I'll find some great tips on how to get through it all here!!
Marina
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It is good to hear so many of you have done well after treatment #1 !!! It really is so different for so many and all the ladies on here have been such a big help that I know, had I not found this, I don't think that I would have done as well!!
mofend - I'll be thinking of you tomorrow, my 2nd is tomorrow:) Lets get those nasty cells!
Tomorrow at 9am is #2 and I am hoping the snow isn't a problem!! I exercised a bit more these last few days, getting the last tx out!! Exercising was never part of my daily routine, but since I was dx, I have made a commitment to myself to do so, even if it is only walking for 20-30 minutes on days I don't feel as great.
I finally had my husband shave my head, and oh, it feels so much better!!! Day14 was the magic number for strands coming out and it was only day 16 that brushfulls were coming out!! Now my brother and I are twins and it is scary how alike we look!!!
I am not sure where everyone is on working and wigs, scarves etc. etc....so I want to share with you what I have done...as part of my job I meet with clients on a regular basis and thus the hair thing is BIG. I also didn't want to announce all 100+ clients that I was going through chemo because that would mean 100+ discussions about my health! I know they would be supportive and caring, but I need work to be an outlet, when I am there. (I should also mention I have a partner in the office and a great asst. who are totally amazing and supportive and have my back!!) I have had 2 lunch meeting with clients while wearing my wig, and got complements on my shorter/slightly darker color, they had no clue, at least none that I could tell and I am a pretty good read on people! Most people are so caught up in their own drama's that they can't see it!
I first bot a wig from my stylist, who used to help cancer patients at Sloan Kettering, experienced right? Well, I bought the wig, it sat for 2 weeks, then put it on at home, my daughter said it was horrible (she is 8) and indeed it was, it was going to be so obvious to everyone that it was a wig! I looked at websites online www.wigs.com and a few others, and the first site I looked at had the same wig for a fraction of the price!! The salon did take it back, but I think they lost me and my husband as a customer, (need to write them a letter, they can't do that to other women!)
If you want something that looks real without breaking the bank, find a wig with monofilament, it is a circular fabric on the top of the head and it gives the illusion of having a part and you can change the part if you need too!! Also, there are synthetic and real hair blends with the mono caps, they aren't as "heavy" as the all synthetic wigs. Also, if you aren't comfortable ordering online, find the nearest wig maker, you won't pay the salons' markup! I went to www.jacquelynwigs.com and they have locations in NY and there is also Wigs By Gigi in Newark. If you are close to a major city, I am sure you can find a place that either makes the wigs or is a main distributer for them!
Outside of going into the office and client meetings, I will be wearing a scarf, they are very, very comfortable and there are some really beautifull ones! Oh, except if I am going into my children's school, will wear the wig then too:)
Don't forget to see if your insurance picks up some of the cost!!!
Sorry so long ladies, but I wish I had looked into the whole wig thing more before I jumped!!! The steroids are doing there thing tonight, I am up!! Take care all!!
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I did 4 AC (Adriamycin and Cytoxin) and 4 Taxol for a total of eight treatments beginning June 11, 2009 and had the last treatment on September 17, 2009. I didn't know anyone who was going through what I was and never got on this site until about a month ago, and I had a lot of questions only someone going through it could answer, including hair issues.
I had a port installation and then actually had to have it moved when I decided to have a double mastectomy with DIEP reconstruction because the port was in the way of where the plastic surgeon wanted to work, so I did the port thing, too - matter of fact my port is still in - I'm not sure for how much longer. I've learned to love my port, though - it's helped so much to have it.
I kept a journal of how I felt each day during the weeks of chemo, how I felt and what medications I took. I feel like I know a lot more than I did before I went through chemo so if anyone has any questions, please either send me a private message or post here. I would love to help you in any way I can. Good luck - you can do it!
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teemee: Your whole situation sucks! I had a staph infection last year and it was awful. Mine was not nearly as serious as yours but I can only imagine how you feel. Please don't let this distract you from the most important thing here, pursuing your bc CURE! You've had your surgery already, right? So you can take a little bit of time between chemo. I know you'de rather spend that little break on a nice vacation, but it is what it is. I am so sorry, I feel bad for you. You can rebound and get your chemo insurance, especially with grade 3. It will get better!
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Good luck to all our ladies going through chemo today and this week.
teemee- sucks to have a staph infection, hope you are feeling better. Actually this whole BC thing sucks, who needs to have added problems.
Marina hugs to you and your baby, sorry you have to join us.
I am obsessing about wearing a wig, I hate hats, don't know if I will be able to wear a wig for hours at a time. I am really pissed off about losing my hair, I am not a vain person, but come on - no hair that is like being marked - CANCER, CANCER, CANCER. As if having cancer is not enough, the world now has to know, sucks.
I am an older women and years ago I made the decision not to cut my hair when I got older, nope not me I am going to go into old age with long white hair. Right before a family vacation to Texas to visit my sister and her family I was diagnosed, I didn't tell anyone except my husband, and shocked my family when I insisted my great niece cut my hair. I thought by cutting it then it would be easier to handle, then a few weeks ago I cut it even shorter, now it is ready to come out and I am not happy.
But then I remind myself, what a great problem to have, so many other BC sisters have real problems and I'm sitting here bitching about hair. I found an old picture of me and my husband when we were hippies and his hair was longer than mine, now he is bald, so I guess now it is my turn.
Hugs,
Grace
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Grace, your post tickled me. You know, now and then we just need to get a little bitchy to keep our sanity. It happened to me last night. I tuned into Larry King to see his interview with John Kerry and his wife Teresa Heinz Kerry because they were supposed to be talking about her breast cancer. Well, John Kerry kept almost bragging about how the cancer "wasn't in her lymph nodes" in one of those "thank God" voices, and it hit me the wrong way. I felt like shoving a sock in his mouth! LOL I felt like if he was going to on national TV to talk about breast cancer, he should at least know a little more about the disease and not stick with old, out-of-date lines. So that's my rant for the day.
Good luck to those going for treatment this week. I'll be with you in thought. Hope you all make it in with all of the snow.
Magister and MomWhoFan, that medicinal ice cream is pretty good stuff! My husband says I can justify anything! LOL Oh, and Mom, I'm also a big Beatles as well as The Who fan. Add the Stones, and I'm happy. Actually got to see the Stones in concert in 1981 in Philly -- where have the years gone?
Have a great day, everyone! Oh, and I've been feeling great the past couple of days. My oncologist says to expect more fatigue around days 7 - 10, and that's coming up this weekend. Also said hair loss is right around the corner, and I have a package coming in the mail with some hats and turbans.
Cindy
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Checking back in. My first week of chemo came and went. Yesterday was Day 7 so I got my blood work done - yep the TC was working all right. WBC was low enough for the Neulasta shot so I got it right there around 2pm. I had it in the tummy and it wasn't bad at all. Didn't really feel anything when it went in and it only took 2 seconds.
I was told to expect flu like symptoms and the worst was going to be last night, and that the bone pain would last 36 hours. We (DH went with me) went straight home and I took 2 Tylenol pills. Poor DH piled 3 or 4 bottles of medication (for pain, for sleep, for relaxation in general
by my bedside before he went to sleep at night - he's been having a cold and sleeping in a different bedroom for the past few days.
Well, it is now Day 8 and about 20 hours after the shot. The 2 Tylenols from yesterday afternoon were the only pills I have taken. No pain so far. Will it come later? I don't know. I feel good enough that I'm at work.
So, my first week's experience and learning: (1) The Anzement (anti-nausea med) once a day for 3 days beginning on day 2 worked very well for me. (2) The only steroid I had through IV on the treatment day was enough for me apparently. I was not prescribed any before and after and I feel fine. (3) I've been having lots of vegetables and a daily soup (chicken, pork, fish, etc). So far good appetite and no metallic taste. I also take vitamin B12 and D daily. (4) Lots of fluid helps. Daily exercise to the point of slight sweating, even when I wasn't feeling the best (and that wasy day 4), helps not only the body but the spirit as well. I was never disciplined regarding exercise. Now I am. (Plus my way of exercising consists mainly of Wit Fit Plus cycling/jogging, etc. It was fun.)
Hugs to all !
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Thinking of mofend and pegeyore, who are presumably getting drips right now. Hope it's going well. Grace, very funny about your hippie hair, you should post a photo of you and the hubby back in the day. But so sorry you've had to lose the hair. I'm the type of tomboy girl who forgets to look in the mirror and thinks I'm not vain, but losing the hair is really, really tough. Not that it's happened to me yet-- I've got a week or so to go. Actually, it's the eyebrows and eyelashes that freak me out. I'm an Irish girl whose eyebrows and eyelashes have been my best feature my whole life.
Day 4.... more side effects, but really not too bad. Sort of like a mild flu, tired and hips achy, mouth sort of metallic, guts a little knotted, but no nausea and no misery. Also are you all feeling just kind of spacey? It can't be chemo brain just yet, but I feel like I'm just about an inch underwater. Had to go to my office (I have my own business) days 2 and 3, not gonna do it today. It's another gorgeous day in old L.A., so will get out for a walk, and spend an hour on the phone dealing with Medco and how to get my prescriptions for round 2.
I've been hydrating well, eating small amounts (guts aren't great, but eating a small amount at a time helps), taking Advil and Claritin for the bone aches (presumably from Tuesday's Neulasta shot). Afraid to take either anti-diarrheals or anti-constipation stuff because my intestines don't seem to know which direction they're going in. So for now I'm sticking with water and small portions and fiber-rich food when possible. Had my last Emend pill yesterday, don't feel any nausea today. Steroids should now be out of my system, too. My face has been flushed-- I look like a drunk Irishman-- but that was probably the steroids and should fade.
Hang in there everyone.
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Grace & CinD: Amen! The hair thing is sending me over the edge. That plus I seem to have a sore throat, heartburn, breakout on my chin and just kinda yukky feeling. Now my scalp hurts too! CANCER SUCKS! I'm trying to get out of this pity pit but maybe I just need to lay in it a while and feel it instead of trying to be tough all the time. I feel guilty for feeling sorry for myself even just a tiny bit because I know am better off that some are. This is the place I can share that! Thank you all for listening! Ok, pity party over.
Mo: I hope you got to chemo today and that its going well.
Laura
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Day 4 and 5 I felt a little spacey, and jittery. Heartburn is killing me, I feel fine, eat OK and then bam heartburn. I am taking zantac and so far it is helping. Today Day 6 not jittery, not spacey, and so far no heartburn.
I think we all deserve a pity party, I'll bring the ice cream.
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I TOTALLY agree on the hair. Don't care so much that I'm a uniboober, other than being lopsided, but losing my hair feels like I'm screaming CANCER PATIENT. I hate that. lbreedl -- you go right ahead with the pity party. DOn't you hate when people say 'keep your chin up' 'have a positive attitude'? They are not the ones dealing with all this crap right now. So go ahead and have a pity party (get out the margaritas, or cheese and wine) and whine away. And enjoy it!
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Pity party away, baby. My metal tongue, aching hips and knotted guts are right there with you. Maybe I'll try a margarita tonight and see if that helps!
And not only gonna go bald, but I've barely eaten all week and am still up a couple of pounds. Damn steroids, I guess.
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Gosh writer, are you reading my mind. Today was my pity party day. Couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, real tears this morning. Caught Amy in chat and got stronger drugs. Managed to eat some soup and passed out for 3 hours. Never heard any of the phone calls. Am hoping today turns the tide.
Was thinking about trying wine tonight?????????
Any thoughts?
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I'm going to try my medical marijuana tonight. It never gets mentioned here on the boards, but it's legal in my state and I've got some and I'm trying it. Just don't want to in front of my 16-year-old.... have to figure that one out.
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writer - Yes, 16 year olds stay up late don't they:) It is really supposed to help on crappy days, when you don't feel like eating, or when you can't sleep! It was passed here in NJ, but not signed off on yet, not likely to the fall, after I am through.
annayttap44 - Go for the wine, if your taste buds are up for it, a glass is good and relaxing!
#2 treatment CHECK!! No problems, feel spacy, but good!
Have a great night ladies!!
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I mentioned to my 15 year old daughter (16 in May) that I could get a prescription for medical marijuana and she said "great and die from lung disease!" What do they teach these kids these days? She is my total goody two shoes ... and I love that.
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So glad to catch up tonight on everyone's posts and know others are experiencing similar feelings. Had my hair cut today. Hate it. When I remarried a dozen years ago, my husband encouraged me to grow out my hair, has always complimented me, etc., so I have this whole self-image thing going on. When folks tell me, "I don't think the hair would bother me," I think, gee, a choice is a whole lot different from it falling out from chemo. By the time my husband got home tonight and said he liked the cut, I was ready for a good cry. I know we are encouraged to keep positive, but I don't like feeling this crappy. It was better today than yesterday, when I had horrid bone pain, but my gut's a wreck and the heartburn's a bitch. Like I said, good to hear there are kindred souls out there, tho I really wish this weren't such a common experience. Thanks for the wig/scarf info. I talked with my ins co yesterday; no coverage there, but I'm heading to the cancer closet at the hospital next week and to a wig store if there's nothing I like. I, too, hate that the bald head screams CANCER.
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Good morning everyone! Well, had my first round yesterday - the snow finally let us get out. I have to say, it was so much less scary than I had built up in my mind. I had zero problems, and was out of there in about six hours. Slept like a rock last night since I hadn't slept the night before from the steroids coursing through my body - don't care for them. So far today, I feel fine - a little funny in the head, but body feels normal. Have all the anti nausea meds, etc., so I think I'm in good shape. Neulasta shot coming this evening. Prepared for that. Retrievermom - if you go to the wig shop, try to get the brand, name of the wig, number of the color that you like and order it on line - it's sooooooo much cheaper. The stores really charge you about $300 more than they are on line - I know from experience. I have always been a hair person (Farrah Fawcett was my hero! - ironic). So, this is bugging me, too, but I'm kind of looking to the end - no cancer, but hair comes back, so that's what's getting my through - and fours wigs, eight scarves, about seven beanie hats and lots of love from my kids, hubby and friends. Hope to hear how everyone is doing. I know the perverbial crap will hit the fan for me with this, but I'm feeling good so far and sooooooo happy to have one done. Love to all - Mo
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I am woman, hear me roar -- that keeps going around in my head since I woke up with my period today. Surprise! This was my 28th day in my cycle, my normal monthly time. My first chemo was one week ago today, and I had wondered if the period would appear again. I guess it's one last hurrah to flush out everything. Last night I started getting period pains, mostly a very sore lower back with spasms waking me throughout the night, much more sore than a normal period. In a strange way, it almost makes me feel good to have it. I'm 49, and I know menopause is around the corner, but I guess my ovaries are fighting to the bitter end. I've always had great luck with ibuprofen fighting cramps, but my onc says not to use that while on chemo so fortunately, I have some percoset left over from surgery. Tylenol alone doesn't cut it for me. Had my blood taken this morning so hope to hear about my CBC count either today or Monday.
Leta, glad to hear your infusion went well. How are you doing today? You are at the front of the pack, so I'm following you closely.
Writer, how did your medical marijuana experiment go? I remember years ago when Murphy Brown gave it a go. If I remember correctly, she sent straight man Jim Dial out to get it for her. I'll have to see if that season is out on DVD. Brenda, you "done good" with your daughter!
I hope everyone is feeling well today, both mentally and physically. Love reading all of your updates!
Cindy
Update: I see Mo just posted, and I'm glad to see all went well yesterday. I kept thinking I hope Mo doesn't get caught in the snow. Great to have that first one done, isn't it?
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Hey Mo, was wondering about you. Sounds like your experience was just like mine. Congrats on making it through round one. It sure helps a lot to have such support and love from our people, doesn't it? Day 2 wasn't bad at all for me-- days 3 and 4 definitely harder. I'm feeling a little better this morning and am going to make my normal pilates class and go to the office. Fingers crossed.
As for the medical marijuana, well it was pretty dang funny. My husband is out of town for a couple of days, my older girl is away at college, so it's me and the 16-year-old, who's not unlike yours, Frosty. She disapproves of the party scene, and she and her friends still secretly watch Disney movies. She is so sweet and would have no problem with her uncomfortable mom lighting up, but I just couldn't do it. Drank a big cup of ginger tea, which helped the gut knots a little, but finally said goodnight, went upstairs, closed the door to our room and bathroom, opened the window and furtively took a hit, hoping she wouldn't notice. So funny to have the middle-aged woman hiding her drugs from the high school junior.
I only had a bit, just to see if it would help the lower GI malaise, and it did help a little... or it must have, because I slept okay. No miracle cure, but I will try again.
A good weekend to all, and take care of yourselves this Valentine's Day.
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Writer - LOL hiding in the bathroom from your daughter, I love it. Seems like only yesterday we were hiding in the bathroom from our parents.
So how does that medical marijuana work? Did you have to ask your oncologist for it, or do they automatically prescribe it? Where do you purchase it? Do you have to smoke it or can you make brownies and eat it? Are you allowed to grow it?
My biggest fear with marijuana is that I will eat everything in sight and double in size. I'm already too fat, and like you I ate so little for the first four days and gained two pounds.
They have just passed it here in NJ, but it will be awhile before it becomes mainstream.
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Mofend, so happy to hear that you DID make it and it sounds like the treatment day went well for you. Hope you have very few SEs!!
Writer, your story sounds so funny - I'm reading it in my office and trying not to laugh too loud.
CinD, I'm premenopausal as well and am curious as to how this TC deal works on this front. Will watch and see.
Leta, glad to hear your 2nd TC treatment was smooth. I'm following you quite closely, too.
Today is my Day 10. I had Neulasta on the afternoon of Day 8 and on the evening of Day 9 I felt some mild and occasional soreness in my thighs, pelvis, and lower back. It's almost all gone by this morning so I'm hoping that was it. I did sleep well last night but found that I had sweated quite a bit - this was unusual but not sure if it has anything to do with the shot.
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It's a screwy and silly system here in California. The main docs won't prescribe it, because it's still federally illegal and they don't want to risk trouble (my onc is part of a federally funded study, so he won't go near it, but said go ahead and try it). You have to go to a semi-shady doctor who specializes in medical MJ. It's not actually a prescription, it's a "recommendation," but a formal one that's recorded with the state. The docs are not allowed to sell it or even recommend where to go, but there are green-cross "pharmacies" all over L.A. and I found one in about 15 minutes by just driving down Sunset Blvd. in Silverlake. Yes, you're allowed to grow a small amount, but I would never bother to do that-- I can't keep plants alive anyway. You can buy it to smoke or in various food forms (yes, brownies), but it's better to stay with smoked/vaporized than eaten for medical uses, because the eaten kind is harder to control the quantity and it stays in your system longer.
I'm not that worried about the eating thing, because I'm not going to sit around and get high all day, tempting though that might be! I just thought it might help with the gut-clenched thing, especially in the later evening. I still have it today, although it seems a little better-- may try again tonight. My teenager is going out tonight!
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Faithfulc, I've been sweating at night over the past few nights. It's most noticeable on my head, with my hair feeling slightly damp. I've wondered if I was quickly shifting into menopause. My Neulasta shot was last Saturday, so I ruled that out.
Cindy
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In NJ mainstream doctors will order Marinol (a synthetic marijuana THC) for failure to thrive.
I wonder if the synthetic is as good as the natural marijuana.
As I read your "my teenage is going out tonight" I'm laughing my butt off, cancer has really turned everything upside down. Wasn't that long ago the kids would say "Parents going out - party time", now it's us.
Somehow I think if I got a script for marijuana, my sons would feel the need to search my room, just like I used to do to them when they were teenagers. I can just hear them now, "you know Mom we doing it for your own good"
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faithfulcmy Oncologist said I had to get Neulasta within 72 hours of chemo. Because I had chemo on a Friday I had to be back in her office Monday morning for the shot. In the future I will be having chemo on Thursdays and then back to her office on Friday for the shot.
I took Clairtan before the shot and the day after and had no bone pain.
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Starting Monday: Port in AM; Then chemo-- A/C 4 times (with Neulasta), then Taxol 4 times, then repeat
Already tired of people telling me I'm strong, etc. Meanwhile, barely made it through today's teeth cleaning without sobbing. Thanks for the blogsite. Straigthened me right up!
Boss is pushing me for a "schedule" of when I'll be "too sick to work." Any thoughts?
Writer: You're cracking me up --X hippie myself--- but no legal MJ here.
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Love that you are 'hiding from the kids' and smoking furtively in the bathroom. That is a hoot! Having grown up in the 70's and 80's when (it seemed to me) things were a lot more casual, it is so strange to have a daughter that is so anti-drug and anti-drinking. She and her friends aren't as furtive about their Disney movies -- they do watch iCarly in secret, though!
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Grazie47, thanks for the info on the timing of Neulasta. I looked it up last week and the manufacturer recommends that this NOT be given (1) with 24 hours of chemo or (2) within 2 weeks of the next chemo. If I read it correctly, administering Neulasta in these two periods could result in the body having too many WBCs. So it seems like the optimal window would be Day 2 through Day 7 after chemo, assuming a regular 3-week interval. (This also means that patients who are on weekly chemos cannot use Neulasta. It seems DD patients are still given Neulasta though.)
Now that I know that I will need the help of Neulasta, I'm going to ask my oncologist about getting the shot on the Monday after my chemo (which is on Wednesday). I do think I need to let my body rest a little bit after chemo before going in for Neulasta. Although the pain is minimal this time, I don't know if I want to deal with it just a couple of days after chemo.
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