Starting Chemo Feb 2010?
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Just wanted to say good luck and stay strong to all of you! I had 6 rounds of TAC (taxotere or taxol - can't remember which, adriamycin, cytoxan) between June and Sept of 2009. Chemo's no picnic, but it really wasn't actually as bad as I expected. In fact, for me, the worst side effect was anticipatory nausea I would get for the day before each treatment. Ativan works well for that, so they'd try to give me that as soon as they could with each treatment.
My onc told me they really don't want people to be sick and that they have great meds for all of the side effects (except the hair loss!), so let them know of any issues you're having. I was able to do normal things, play with my kids - we even planned my chemo schedule so I could still take a vacation between the 1st and 2nd cycles! I fwas off for the summer anyway, but I think I prbably could have worked, just maybe taking a day or two off with each cycle. You will quickly see how each cycle goes for you and which days you feel the best. I felt great for the last week to 10 days of each 3 week cycle.
My hair is finally coming back enough that I do go out like this, although it is still pretty GI Jane! Anyway, you all will do fine and you will get through!
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retrievermom, welcome - sounds like your first treatment went well. Only 3 more and I hope you will do beautifully.
kimt, thank you for the encouraging words! A vacation in between chemo treatment sounds very enticing... It must feel good to have the hair back.
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I started the 1st round of 4 AC and 4 rounds of T on Feb 2nd. The first day was uneventful and I was hopeful that the rest of the journey would be as smooth. Went in for the Neulasta shot the next day...still feeling ok. The full force of the chemo effects started to kick in the late afternoon of the second day and I was in a fog for three days. Neither Compazine nor Ativan worked. The nauseousness was the most unbearable. I couldn't hold anything down....including liquid. My hubby took me in and they infused IV immediately and my onco dr. gave me a new prescription (zofran). This is the 5th day and I am starting to feel a better. I hope it will get better. I'm not sure if I have the strength to endure 7 more. Love to all.
Marie
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Hi, Marie - the Zofran is a huge help, from what I'm hearing. I hope this helps you get through the next seven rounds. Just keep in mind that you're kicking the cancer's butt and it's a fight worth taking on, no matter what. I start on Wednesday - very nervous, but it's great to be able to sound off here. Best wishes for better days coming up! Mo
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Marie, hope the Zofran is helping you!!
Day 4 for me today. In the morning I took the third Anzemet pill and just felt lazy. It's Saturday - I didn't have to get out of bed, and the more I stayed in bed the less energy I had. Talked myself into a breakfast and after that didn't feel like drinking much more water.
Thanks to DH who convinced me I should be moving around, I got up and walked. Helped me gain back some appetite for a light lunch. Then I convinced myself I really should be moving more - it's too easy to fall back into bed - the bed is right there! After some 40 minutes of Wii Fit Plus (cycling, obstacle course) and a slight sweat, I feel SO MUCH better. Feeling normal again and was able to drink a lot more water. Also, I'm feeling hungry again - for the first time today.
By the way, I stopped taking Senokot after the loose stools on Day 2. These last couple of days I have had very soft stools, so I'm not taking any more. Anzemet (one pill in the morning) is the only meds I've been taking for the last 2 days (days 3 and 4). Have not felt nausea. The nurse at the onc office (who did my chemo) called yesterday evening to check up on me as she said she would. Which was nice.
Lesson for me today: exercise does help. Don't overdo it by any means, but I did what I can and it brought both energy and appetite (and perhaps some sense
back. I don't know what I'll do without DH...
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Faithfulc - thanks for the post - it's great of you to keep us updated even though you're not feeling your best. Hope tomorrow it a better day and that you can enjoy it a little more. All the snow here - 32 inches - has certainly been a good mental distraction for me (Wednesday is first day of chemo). I'm taking all of your tips in and I really appreciate all of the information - it's a blessing. Thanks - Mo
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Marie, hugs to you! Hate to hear you felt so bad! Hoping the Zofran is working and glad they gave you the IV infusion. They told me that I would be able to do that, too, if it gets too bad.
Faithful, I don't know if I'll be able to recognize my just normal laziness and chemo fatigue! I'm impressed you did your Wii Fit Plus! I got one for Christmas, and I have YET to even take it out of the celophane! LOL
For everyone else, I thought I would share this decision-making tool my onc uses when he maps out a chemo regime.
It's called Adjuvant! Online, Adjuvant! for Breast Cander (Version 8.0)
He plugs in a number of variables, age, any co-morbidities, ER status, Tumor Grade, Tumor Size, Positive Nodes (mine was 0, by the way) and then the option: Calculate For Relapse.
Oh you also plug in any hormone treatment recommended.
The program then returns the odds for 100 women with the exact same "variables" and what the likelihood of recurrance in 10 years, with four options, 1) Doing Nothing, 2) Doing Hormone Treatment only, 3) Doing Chemo regime only, 4) Combined Hormone/Chemo treatment.
For me the calculations were that out of 100 women:
Doing nothing: 55 will be alive with no cancer; 39 would be alive, but have a relapse (recurrence), and 5 would be dead of other causes.
Adding Hormonal Therapy gives an additional benefit and 18-19 more women will have no cancer/relapse
Adding Chemo Therapy only gives an additional benefit of 12.5 (more women who will have no cancer/relapse)
Combining Hormonal and Chemo adds 25-26 more women who will have no cancer/relapse in 10 years.
Meaning that the 55 jumps to almost 80 out of 100 with both treatments who will likely not have a cancer relapse/recurrence in 10 years.
Those numbers are good enough for me! And -- I know that cancer can't read and has no clue what statistics mean, but I will take these odds!
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Thanks Amy and CinD for your posts, after reading them, i felt calmer
My PET scan came back and its all clear and will start my chemo on 17th Feb. Its Chinese New Year celebration here starting from 14th in Singapore, hope i can resist all the goodies and no visits.
Forgot to ask for the type of cocktails I will be receiving (getting forgetful these days too), will call on monday.
Thanks everyone for sharing and will post mine up on my 1st chemo experience too.
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Checking in.
Had a crazy few days, Wedspent the day looking for a fake boob. Went to a couple of beautiful boutique stores and was greeted with "Darling you must make an appointment". Finally gave in and went to an old drugstore, with the older ladies and was welcomed in, measured, fitted and very satisfied with them. Bet if I had gotten service at one of the beautiful boutiques, I would have paid a fortune and very possible not get a real experienced person, just a good salesperson. So in the end it worked itself out. As I read somewhere on this site "I got a fake boob because the real one was trying to kill me"
Thurs sched for chemo was moved to Fri, because I needed to take steroids the day prior. Spoke with the oncologist about vitamins and she was OK with all of them except multivitamin. So I'm back on Vit D.
Fri Feb 5my first dose of Chemo TCH every three weeks X6 , then Herceptin every 3 wks for the rest of the year, the infusion lasted 5 hours. It wasn't as bad as the fear leading up to it. All the nurses loved the power port, just felt on little pinch and that was it. Also was given two additional bags of anti nausea medication. Also informed that the power port could be used for MUGA scan, unlike the older port styles.
MD ordered Ativan and compazine for nausea. After chemo I felt good then later that night I was nauseas, constipated and vomiting. All my fault I didn't pay attention to my bowel movements and did not fully hydrate my self. Once I cleared up the constipation I feel good.
Today one day post Chemo: Had to take an anti nausea drug Emend weather I needed it or not, and two steroids pills Decadron
I made sure I took extra stool soften and monitored my BM's. I lined up all the bottles of water that I have to drink, and other than feeling slightly nauseous, which I treated effectively with Ativan. I am having a good day. Eating small bland meals is also helping.
Whew only 1/2 bottle of water left to drink.
Being very careful and rinsing my mouth 4 times a day with biotine mouth wash.
Hope your all doing OK
Grace
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Good job, Grace!! You ladies going into the front lines are angels for us stepping up from the rear ranks. I'm trying as best I can to keep good notes from your'all's reports.
I wonder why multivitamins are not preferred? I think that's all I've got. One more note to ask the women during "Chemo Boot Camp" next week!
Take a rest, Grace, you deserve it!
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I can't believe this, but my brother shaved his head in support of me!!! We met up in NY City with his family this weekend and he went home and shaved his head!! He said I souldn't be the only one in the family with a bald head!! Very touching and I am still in SHOCK that he did it, after all, I have a wig and he doesn't! I think in that respect he is braver than I am, I don't go out without my wig on!
This Thursday is TX #2, hoping things go as smoothly as the first!
To all who just joined the February sisters, you found a great place to put it ALL out there and ask questions and share your experiences etc!!
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leta17 - Aww that is so sweet, what a great surprise and brother. It really lifts the spirits and thats one thing you can't get from any medicine and it is so important to our recovery.
Hugs,
Grace
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Hello gang! My first treatment was Friday, and two days later I'm still doing really well. Kinda surprised, actually, but never sure how long it will last.
My sleeping has been disrupted a little more than usual, but it could be worse. I awoke around 4 in the morning the past two days, went back to the spare room, watched TV in the chair for an hour, then crawled into the bed there and dozed off again. Christine, I see you also had sleeping problems. Are you sleeping better now?
Yesterday I awoke with just a little queasiness, but taking the Zofran kicked that very quickly. That's great stuff! I took 2 of those pills total yesterday and never had any more queasiness. Marie, I hope going forward the Zofran will keep the nausea away. Hang in there! You can do these treatments, especially if they keep that nausea away so you can keep the fluids in. I am sorry you had such a rough start. Retrievermom, has your queasiness gone away completely?
Faithfulc, I am amazed you did 40 minutes on the Wii Fit! I've been out in the yard for long periods of time with my dogs but nothing strenuous.
Grace, loved your story about tracking down the right fake boob! You sound like me. I'd definitely prefer the old drugstore to the fancy shops. I ran into one of the fancy shops when wig shopping, but the wig person was not available and no one else felt they could go into her domain and show me any wigs -- appointment needed. I live 40 miles away, I'm starting chemo, and I don't want to make a special trip for "madame" to fit me! Odd thing was the shop was in the cancer center where I'm being treated. Oh, and I'm also doing the Biotene rinse routine a few times a day.
Me2u, that's great news about your scan coming back clear! A reason to celebrate! I had my body scans (CT and bone) right before my surgery, and it took a weight off my mind when they came back clear.
Michele, I am not as brave as you. I've known about Adjuvant! Online for awhile, but I just can't see my odds reduced to a number. I might start obsessing, more than normal, that is. LOL I'm glad you are happy with your results! I've heard it really is a great tool, though, and I am sure it is immensely helpful to many.
Leta, that's too cool about your brother shaving his head. I'm glad your first treatment went smoothly, and here's to hoping the second goes as well!
Mo and everyone starting this week, we'll be here waiting to hear how it goes. Many thanks to the ladies dropping in who have been through this and are cheering us on! Your support means so much!
Cindy
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Hi, everyone - Cindy, thanks for the well wishes - I'm surprising myself and actually not climbing the walls today. Feel very calm and ready to get Wednesday over with. Maybe it's the beautiful blanket of snow and it's calming effects, who knows. Anyway, I have a dear friend who is actually an expert wig fitter for cancer patients. She was great and went with me to pick out a wig and then she styled it (wigs come with way too much hair), and gave me lots of pointers. One thing she said is that the best place to buy wigs is on line because it's about half of what you pay in the stores. She gave me two sites - www.wigs.com and www.wigsalon.com. She said to stay away from the Raquel Welch type wigs - not good quality, but she did recommend two brands - Henry Margu and the Rene of Paris lines. They actually have tons to look at - I liked the wigsalon site better. So, right now I have about six different wigs in my shopping cart and I just need to figure out which one I like best - want to go with a different look for me completely just for fun! So, hope this helps. By the way, she also said not to open your oven, dishwasher or dryer with your wig on - that blast of heat/humidity kills wigs - who knew!!!
Waiting anxiously to hear how everyone who just recently started is doing and I hope you feel the extended hugs from here! Mo
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It's good to see we're all getting this show on the road. To those who had an unpleasant experience, HANG IN THERE! This will not last forever. I just loved the message from Amy is strong. It helps to keep all this in perspective too. None of this has been fun but I keep looking for the positive things and there are always more than I thought at first. I am focusing on the positive!
Roso88: Finally, someone else with the same drug! Every week for 12 weeks seems like a long time but it will pass quickly. I hope it goes as well for you as me. The only problem I had was a mild burning and red face the day after. I took benadryl and cortisone cream and it cleared right up. I also drank lots of water, but was not told to do so by my team. I see many talking about naulasta shot but I've had no mention of it from my onc. I am also having 4 rounds of FEC, maybe it will come up then. Good Luck! I'm sure it will go well. It really was not bad at all, more of an inconvinience by having to take the time for it.
Tomorrow is #2. I'm ready to kick more cancer butt!
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Huge thanks to you brave women who made the first charge last week. I'm sorry for those of you who've had some misery, but all things considered, it sounds like it's not so horrible. Leta, what a bro you have to do that! My older daughter (soph in college) had her friends give her a chemo cut out of solidarity, about three weeks before I got mine-- and of course because she's 20 it's already grown about 2 inches and is totally adorable. Cindy, thanks for the good report and good energy. Grace, thanks for inspiring me to pay attention to the hydration and constipation-- that's an issue for me anyway (was a problem after both my lumptectomy and port surgery-- so I'm going to be really, really proactive this time.
About to take my first round of steroids for my chemo debut at 9 a.m. tomorrow. We just had more torrential rains here in SoCal, as you may have heard, and today is breezy, blue-sky glorious, so I will get a long walk in and hopefully get all that work done that I need to do because I'll be out of commission tomorrow. I got randomized into the Avastin group, so my infusions will probably be 6 1/2 - 7 hours -- a long day!
Yesterday was a grumpy day-- I had lots of work to do and got behind because of software/technical problems, and my normal spirit of chipper optimism was cracking under the fear of what's coming. I'm more scared about the chemo than I'm letting on to anyone other than you all. It was fun to go wig shopping with my 16-year-old and my friend last weekend, but picking up the wig yesterday was really depressing.
But of course come 2011 we'll all be just peachy.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend. Today I will exercise, hydrate, eat fiber.... and have a big ol' glass of pinot noir tonight!
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Good morning ladies- hope you are all having a good sunday
I haven't posted since right after my 1st treatment which was a week and a half ago, but I had been feeling good- went for a walk every day for 4 days in a row this last week! But then I was around someone wednesday who had just had a cold but was feeling better- and the next day I had a cold too- and still have it! They said that days 7-10 is when your immune system is at its lowest.. So don't let anyone around you if they've just been sick- make them wait several days! I'm going to call my docs tomorrow if I'm not feeling better, but really hoping I am..
Anyway good luck to you all who are starting this week- I was so nervous before my 1st treatment and it really wasn't bad at all!
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Oh, Cal30, what a bummer for you with the cold! I will admit that's one of the things I'm very nervous about.
My 6-year-old grandson gets dropped off at our house every morning because both of his parents have to be at work a good 2 housr before he is allowed to be dropped off at school. He usually comes in the front door, drops his backpack and shoes in the foyer, then trots upstairs to sleep those 2 hours away with me in bed. My husband then takes him to school on his way to work.
Now I'm really paranoid about his jumping into bed with me after the chemo treatments start. Kids are such bug factories! Even if HE is okay, how many kids sneezed and coughed on HIM yesterday!
We'll have to figure that one out without disrupting his routine too much.
leta, I was shocked that my brother has gone ahead and shaved his head, too! He's about 16 months older than me and when we were growing up, everyone in the family used to call us "Pugsley and Wednesday" (from the Addams Family) because we were always hanging out together and getting into the most bizarre trouble! We'll be back to being called "Pugsley & Wednesday" again!
CinD, your posts are so thorough and helpful! As are everyone else's! Writer, Mo, Grace, lbreedl, and everyone else that I didn't mention by name.
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my cocktail: its AC 4x, ? 12x, Rads (5wks) and Tamoxifen 5 years. Kyeril and Dexamethasone to prevent nausea/vomiting via IV. Neulastin injection to increase white blood cell the following day.
MW943, am having AC 4x too and thanks for your post chemo experience. am going to ask for Zofran to standby (in case).
thanks CinD, faithfulc, Grazie47 and Ibreedl for your detailed experiences of your post chemo experience. Writer, hope your chemo went well. CAL30, hope your cold will go away soon.
lets all be strong to fight this and go through together!!!
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I'm kind of laughing at the irony of this situation, but my first chemo is scheduled for Wednesday - the same day they're predicting another huge snowstorm on top of the two and a half feet we already have!!! And this isn't Colorado, it's outside of Philly! Do they cancel chemo, like schools, due to snow? Mo
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I start tomorrow with TAC
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Monday today. Day 6 after my first TC treatment. Beginning yesterday I'd say I'm 100% back to normal physically, with the possible exception of a slightly reduced appetite. But everything tastes good. I stopped all medication yesterday (took only vitamin B12 and D).
Writer/Teel, good luck today.
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Thanks, faithfulc. So happy to hear you're doing well.
I've been hopped up on steroids since yesterday morning, so yesterday was not stressful-- I was full of vim and vigor. Walked 5 1/2 miles, wore out my dog but I could have kept going! Usually when I walk longer than normal my hips hurt all night, but no trouble last night. Not that I slept-- but I didn't care! The down side, of course, is that I was starving all day and night.
Anyway, off we go for my seven hours of infusions. Ready as I'll ever be. Thanks to all who have been providing wisdom and reports!
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Do any of you ladies have a person (or more) who you thought would be there for you during this time, but isn't at all? One person who says I'm her 'best friend' hasn't been there at all.. never calls, rarely emails, the only thing is I get an occasion text, and thats mostly when I send her one first.. I just don't get it.
Any suggestions? I know I should not waste my energy thinking about it, but it does hurt my feelings.. So for those of who who are going through the same thing, what do you do? My husband thinks I should just stop making an effort, since our friendship is obviously just a one way street...
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Just dropping in to say good luck to all. I finished chemo in Feb last year--and you DO get your life back, I promise--- it does NOT last forever and a year from now, there will be parts you have forgotten.
Cal, I saw your note about your friend. I had a similar experience with someone who has been my friend since we were 4 years old. She knew what was going on and I called her just before chemo started and asked if we could see each other (she lives close by) she never called back and I never heard from her again--- I called her this past November, she said she would call me back, never did. She always had alot of drama in her life as well as some really tough times. I just decided that she couldn't help me-- and I had enough other wonderful people in my life--- so I had to let it go.... it was hard and sad- but one thing having had breast cancer taught me is that I am not wasting time on people who are not as commited as I am......
I am sorry this happened to you-but it may be that she just cannot deal with this----
GOOD LUCK TO ALL--remember, this too will pass!
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Thanks momand2kids for your reply, and encouraging words!
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Hi everyone. I was diagnosed in December 2009 three days before xmas! I am having my port put in this wednesday and the oncologist wants me to start chemo next week. I had a rt mastectomy with reconstruction. all of this is a whirlwind. I have had incredible support, but I and scared of chemo and its effects. I don't know what supplies I should have on hand or anything. I have three small children and I want to be prepared for anything!! I wasn't even going to join the forum since I don't get on the computer much, but I need help!
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Sgerrity: We are here for you! All of us are going through the same thing. We are here to encourage each other and share our experiences. You can do this, you have st least 3 big reasons to give it the fight of your life! I am just finishing my second chemo as I'm typing this. I promise you it really isn't as bad as you may think. I had only very slight rash for 1 day from my last treatment. Most of us have faired equally as well. Just be positive and take it one day at a time! This board is a wealth of info about what to expect also. Let's look for the blessings along the way!
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Welcome aboard, sgerrity - I, too, like everyone else, I think, am scared of the chemo side effects. I was supposed to start this Wednesday, but because of the predictions for a major snowstorm, again, it's been moved to Friday - so, just when I had my head around Wednesday, the weather gods have changed my plans. I have to say that reading all the posts from the others going through this has helped me so much. I'm actually feeling at peace with moving forward and getting this show on the road. The best thing about this is you can really feel like you're not alone in this process - these ladies are all in it with you and you can talk to them - only they know what you're going through, and it's very comforting. Hope you come back often - have to say, I'm kind of addicted to it now! Take care, take a breath, and know that we're here for each other. Mo
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ennaytap44 and sgerrity welcome, we are all here to help each other, just sit back, close your eyes and feel all our loving arms around you. ((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))
Cal30 so sorry to hear about your friend, don't invest anymore time thinking about her, you need to concentrate on you. YOU are number 1. We are all here for you (((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))
I tried so many times to post yesterday but I was cut off for the 5 post a day rule. So I forgot most of what I wanted to say, guess it wasn't that important. LOL
Yesterday day 3, I was a little sluggish, that was the steroids coming out of my system. Today day 4, I am still a little tired, got my Neulasta shot today. No nausea yesterday and so far none today so hopefully the next few days I will be feeling more normal. Took a Claratin before the shot and Tylenol after it, so hopefully I won't get any bone pain.
Writer and Teel and ilbreed good luck today
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