Interns, residenets, Chief of Staff???

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What is the pecking order for medical doctors?  Are the interns the lowest ranking doctors followed by residents?  How many years is involved in an internship and in a residency?  What can residents do that interns can not? What is the difference between Chief of Staff and Division Chief?

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  • lovetosail
    lovetosail Member Posts: 544
    edited January 2010

    Interns are fresh out of medical school.  You can spot them b/c they wear a "short coat", their white coat goes only to their hips.  After your intern year (you an an intern for only one year), you are a resident and you get to wear a longer coat.  Residents do have more responsibility than interns, and therefore can do more, but what they do differently than an intern will depend on their specialty.  For most programs, you are a resident for 3 years. After you complete your residency in some cases (depending on your specialty) you go on to more training, in which case you are a "fellow".  The number of years of your fellowship again may vary with your specialty.

    What I've said here applies to the US system, btw.

    As a general rule of thumb, I don't like having the "short coats" do anything on me but interviews ;-)

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited January 2010

    mawhinney, the questions you've asked here are also being discussed in another thread on this forum, where a BCO member wanted to know whether we're being "tricked" into allowing non-doctors to work on us in teaching hospitals.

    I'm going to copy-and-paste some of what I posted there about the hierarchy of medical training in the U.S. I've also edited and added some stuff, to make it more relevant to your post:

    As lovetosail said, an "intern" is the title used for someone in his or her first year of postgraduate training.  An intern has completed medical school (so he/she is an "M.D."), passed the national board exams, and obtained a license to practice medicine.  The term "intern" was once the standard title for a first-year graduate of medical school.  That was when the internship was a separate year of general training, distinct from the specialized training of a residency.  Nowdays, though, most postgraduate training programs use the term "first-year resident" instead of intern, because the postgraduate training of a medical school graduate is continuous. 

    Residents, whether newly graduated "first-year residents" or experienced "chief residents" (or "senior residents"), can legally and ethically introduce themselves as doctors, and examine and treat us.  Residents are working toward "board certification" in a medical specialty area.  To obtain board certification, a resident must complete from 3 to 5 years of supervised, in-hospital training in a particular field, such as general surgery, internal medicine, family practice, anesthesiology, psychiatry, etc.  These days, nearly all M.D.'s complete some sort of residency program before they begin practicing medicine on their own.

    A few residency programs still require medical school graduates to complete a year of general training before they can begin the 3- to 5-year residency program.  And, some residency programs in highly specialized fields or multidisciplinary areas last as long as 7 years.  After completion of the residency program, the resident must pass a "board exam," and possibly meet other requirements, to obtain board certification and work independently.  Here's information about residency programs in the U.S.:  http://www.nrmp.org/res_match/about_res/index.html

    After successfully completing a residency and becoming board-certified in a particular field of practice, a physician might want to focus even further in a subspecialty by doing a "fellowship".  Thus, "fellows" are a level above the highest-level residents.  Fellowships require from 1 to 3 years of supervised training under the true "experts" in a field of medicine, generally at a nationally-known teaching hospital. 

    Collectively, the residents on duty in a hospital are called the "house staff" (http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/house+staff).  The house staff are under the direct, day-to-day supervision of the "Chief Resident," who is the top-ranking (senior) resident in the training program.  The highest-ranking physician overall in a specialty area of a hospital is the "attending physician" (or "consulting physician").  The "attending" has completed residency training and is board-certified in the specialty area.

    I think, but am not certain, that the "Chief of Staff" is the head of all the personnel assigned to work in a specialty area of the hospital, or perhaps the hospital as a whole. This Wikipedia page explains some of the titles and terminology:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residency_(medicine)

    I suppose it's possible to avoid all contact with fellows, residents, and medical students, by insisting that only the "attending physician" will be allowed to examine or treat you.

    otter 

  • redsox
    redsox Member Posts: 523
    edited January 2010

    When they graduate from medical school they get an M.D., which is an academic degree, and start as interns.  During the last year of medical school they take the first part of the exams required to get a license (from the state) to practice medicine.  When they pass that first exam they have a provisional license, which is what interns have.  They can legally do most things a physician can, but it has to be supervised and signed off on by a fully licensed physician.  At the end of the internship year they take the second part of the exams for the license.  When they pass that they have a full license to practice medicine and can legally do almost anything. 

    Then they are usually residents getting training in a specialty.  At the end of that (3-5 years depending on specialty) they take exams to be board certified in the specialty.  Many go on to be fellows, which involves more training in a subspecialty and may lead to subspecialty board exams and certification.  After that they are full practicing physicians in their specialty.  A fully licensed physician can legally practice medicine in a specialty even if he/she never passed the board exams or completed the residency (easier to do in some specialties than others).

    Beyond that there are hierarchies within the hospital, the practice, the medical school (if academic), but that varies considerably.  Department heads are responsible for a department.  Departments may be grouped into divisions or centers.  The Chief of the Medical Staff is usually the highest ranking M.D., but some places may have other high titles.  

  • mawhinney
    mawhinney Member Posts: 1,377
    edited January 2010

    Thanks for all your helpful responses.  So difficult trying to figure out who is who in a hospital setting.

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