Hematoma Post Lumpectomy
In Sept 09 I was diagnosed with DCIS stage 0. October was my lumpectomy. As confusing as that was and making the decision to have radiation, I decided to....then I got a hematoma-from the lumpectomy. My breast was swollen, painful and hard. The rad Doc and the surgeon decided it was best to have the hematoma vacuumed out...yes-and that was interesting and frightening, but we did it. Unfortunately, the previously 'nice' scar from the lumpectomy was, after the vacuum procedure, ugly. The scar is not healing. The scar is open and draining-maybe draining is good, but I wear gauze everyday and night. I just want to know if anyone else has had a hematoma after lumpectomy and if so, how was the experience? After a very recent second opinion about the healing of the incision, I now know that the incision will not heal until the radiation ends. When it does, though it will be ugly. I am happy to still have my breast and I am thankful for modern medicine. But, I have just had so many complications. Just wanting to see if anyone else had a similar experience.-thanks.
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Bumping in hopes that someone will share a similar experience. I developed a hematoma after a post cancer excisional biopsy. However, it was not removed and seemed to take forever, i.e. a couple of years to completely resolve.
Good luck.
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I can't really say I've had a similar experience, mine is itty bitty in comparison.
One of my two biopsies went right through a vein (artery? I admit I don't know how to tell the difference) which is visible just under the skin of my breast. I'd love to have a chat with the radiologist about why she picked that spot.
I had a lot more bleeding, bruising and pain than with my other biopsy, and a small, hard, painful lump formed near the entry point scar. I've been told it's probably a hematoma.
I've dragged out the surgical decision for months. The biopsy scar itself seems to have never really healed, the lump is still there and my breast still hurts. I'm just hoping that the pain will be gone when I heal from the "real" surgery. I'm afraid of my optimism.
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Kimann - I'm not sure if you want to hear my story, but here it goes. lumpectomy on Feb. 23 - went well, and as you said, a 'nice' neat scar. But, didn't have clear margins, so re-excision on March. 23. I developed a hematoma a couple of weeks later, the surgeon decided to let it resolve itself, as this often does happen. Mine didn't and the breast swelled so much that the incision opened and about 2 liters of fluid drained. I was scheduled to start chemo but my onc wanted the wound to heal, so I was on homecare for about seven weeks where they packed and dressed it every other day. At that point my gp suggested doing another surgery to close it, because it would take months to heal, and I was waiting for chemo. So in the Middle of May I had a secondary close done, lost a fair bit of breast tissue (My good breast is a D, my BC breast is a B now). But I was finally closed up. Scheduled to start chemo June 1st. The incision opened again on May 31st. I went through 18 weeks of chemo while having the wound dressed every three days. Still not healed. Went to a new surgeon, who put me on VAC therapy. Carried that machine with me 24/7 for 5 weeks. VERY closed to healed. The wound finally closed mid November and I started rads a week later. The incision area suffered during rads, but I'm three weeks out now and it is healed. It does not look pretty. I get very upset when I think about how good it could have looked if the 1st lumpectomy had had clear margins. But I am advised that I am covered for reconstructive surgery to fix the scar and have my Dcup reduced. I know that my story doesn't fix the mess, but you are not alone in this mess. Even after all that, now that my incision is healed, I actually don't think it looks that bad, but I will get it fixed. Good luck to you and let me know how it goes.
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Hello Rinna,
WOW! your experience is much more involved than mine. I am glad to know, though, that I am not the only one. I have asked if this is normal-and I have been told about 20% or women get a hematoma. The healing problems are not normal, but the doctors do see this from time to time. I am so glad that your incision is healed. The silver lining! I have considered surgery to fix the scar but I will wait to see how it looks when all healed. I have 6 more rad treatments-Thursday starts the 'boost' so I almost there! Thanks for replying.
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Hello Sweatyspice,
Not the same but similar for sure. My hematoma continues to drain and is getting smaller but it's still tender and the car seatbelt is not nice at all. The surgeon and the RAD Docs have told me that the healing could take 18 months to several years to fully resolve and heal. Stay optimistic, but be patient. Thank you for sending your note,
Take care of you-
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Sushanna1,
Yes I have been told it can take a while for the hematoma to go away. Your experience gives me something real to go by-thank you.
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Mine was post-radiation so it might resolve sooner if you haven't been radiated.
Good luck.
Sue
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Wow I"m shocked to hear about these experiences...I had a haematoma develop immediately after my lumpectomy...it became apparent in the first 2 hours after surgery, so I went back into Surgery same day, to have the blood vessel cauterised, the haematoma cleaned and a drain placed...the drain stayed in for about a week and it all healed up nicely afterwards, well before I would have had rads (if I'd not then needed a mast). I find myself wondering if your drs had revisted it surgically before rads started if you might've had a better result. I know it's hard after such a long run of complications, but your body will eventually heal, and then you can think about whether you want the scar to be tidied up etc.
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Oops sorry double post (computer seized up)
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Hi everyone,my name is Debbie
I had a lumpectomy and 3 nodes removed 3 weeks before Xmas and I have a massive haematoma, that the surgeon said would take 6 weeks to go down. I am now having my radiation and it is still just as big, but my rad onc., said it can take months to go away and that the body will just re-absorb it, but I have been concerned like all of you, as it has not shown signs of going down at all, and it's a pain, cause you can't lay on that side etc. It is one, like slab of concrete and I work with physio's and they said it's amazing, maybe try ultrasound to break it down, but I'm not sure what to do, or who to listen to, has anyone tried ultrasound? would love to hear from anyone that has had that suggested or something else, cause 6 months is a long time. Initially it was drained 3 different times, then the surgeon said, "oh the rest will go away on it's own", yeah sure mate????
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Wow. I thought I was the only one with these issues. I had a huge hematoma develop three weeks after a mastectomy. My boob blew up like a balloon and bruised. To this day, I still don't know what caused it. Luckily for me, I still had a postop drain in. My plastic surgeon aspirated A LOT more blood out, then he sent me for an ultrasound of my breast after the bleeding had subsided. The ultrasound showed only clotted blood, so his decision was to let it resolve on its own. Well, my surgical drain stayed in for nine weeks as the hematoma slowly broke down. It took a good five months for my breast to go down. I thought my boob was going to be huge forever. We had to hold off on expansion for awhile. Eventually, it did go down, but my breast is still a bit discolored. I recently had exchange to silicone implant and my doc said all was clear in there, so I guess it did resolve and be reabsorbed. But it was a very difficult time.
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I had a lumpectomy on 2/9/13. The steri strips were removed 6 days after the surgery and the black marker still remained on the skin which made the incision look wider than it actually was. The incision was about 3 1/2 inches long. Within a few days the marker washed off and I could see that 1/3 of the incision was healing well, and the other 2/3 was a thick, purple color. I called the BS office and they said this was normal. Two weeks later I was still continuing to have a lot of pain upon movement, when the shower water hit the incision area etc. I called again to inquire if experiencing this much pain and the deep purple, thick line was normal. This time I was told once again that it was normal and that I could expect to feel pain for up to 12 months. Another 2 weeks went by and I woke up with blood in my bra (I have had to wear a bra and sports bra continuously since the surgery). I called the doctor and they had me come in for an apt. Three staff members looked at my incision site and they didn't seem to know what to do about it - it was alarming to me. The nurse told me that they would put me on antibiotics, the NP told me that they might need to open the incision site to drain it, and then the BS looked and decided not to do anything at all. He told me to put gauze in my bra and sent me home. Well a couple of more weeks have passed and I am still in pain and bleeding from this incision. I don't understand why the fact that this incision is not healing doesn't seem to be alarming anyone but me. I find it so hard to believe that this is "normal". I guess I would have liked to know in advance that it would be such a long healing process. I've had a c-section and was out of work for 6 weeks - but never had any complications. With this surgery, I went back to work in 2 days and here I am 2 months later, still experiencing pain and bleeding at the incision site. Does anyone know why the incisions on the breast take so long to heal? If getting a hematoma, blood blister is normal - what percentage of patients does this happen to? I've tried to google pictures on the intranet and nothing looks like what I have. I am going to try to get a 2nd opinion of this incision area - I just feel like there has got to be something more I can do other than stuff my bra with gauze for months and take tylenol.
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I'd want a second opinion too. Good luck.
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Truffles1 - I agree with LynninColorado - I would get a second opinion. I've been a nurse for over 20 years, but recently was diagnosed with breast cancer. It's very eye-opening seeing the healthcare system from the patient's point of view. Being a nurse has been both a blessing and a curse because I know a lot, but then I know a lot. I think if your gut is telling you - that things aren't right. I would absolutely pursue it!
I had my lumpectomy 2 weeks ago and the tumor was pretty close to the surface of my skin which is why I think my hematoma drained. I didn't know this was going to be a possibility. This morning I took off my sports bra (which I feel like I'm going to wear for the rest of my life) and it started draining alot! Thankfully I recognized that it was dark brown and not bright red and quickly figured out what was going on. Otherwise I would have been flipping out.
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I had a hematoma show up on my MRI a week after my stereotactic biopsy. I didn't notice problems. But I'm due for a lumpectomy & I'm reading about what could happen with a larger surgery coming up. Would having a hematoma from my biopsy put me at higher risk of having another hematoma? I'm guessing that the current one is near the biopsy so will be removed at that time. -
I had a lumpectomy 3 days ago and breast is very big and hard. Called doc on call. She met me at er and thought for sure it was a Seroma until nothing came out when she tried to drain it. So now thinks it's a hematoma. She wrapped me up tightly in an ace bandage and will see me in the morning again. Says if still bleeding or bigger, I need to have surgery again to remove. I don't expect my pathology results back until Monday or Tuesday. I assume I should wait in case more surgery is needed in case margins weren't clear? Any thoughts on this topic of the hematoma? I'm very small breasted so this is like a giant grapefruit and very uncomfortable. Thank you for your words of wisdom.
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Hello everyone, I had a lumpectomy 6/22/15. Stage 1 HER2 +. Margins were clear, centennial node & 4 satellite nodes all clear. However I was supposed to start a long cocktail of chemo which I'm now behind by 2 weeks because a hematoma had to be removed. So back into 1/2 hour surgery to clean it out, a couple of stitches plus antibiotics. It looks better but my poor left breast has been beaten up. Wondering how long it will stay this way. I'm so frustrated because this year long escapade has no date as of yet & I'm so nervous about the side effects, it's driving me crazy. I'm hoping the surgeon & oncologist can give me a start up date asap. Thank you for any input
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Hi, I had the same problem. After my lumpectomy I developed a hematoma in my right breast. It was very bad. My breast went from a a cuff to a DDD cuff. This was back in 2012 and I am still having lots of pain. I just took physical therapy because of the pain. I have a small scar, not too bad. I do have a lot of scar tissue also.
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Jackiebebe, welcome to Breastcancer.org, and thank you for sharing your experiences. We hope that your pain reduces soon! just so you know, this thread appears to be a few years old, so you may not receive replies. You may want to start a new topic regarding hematomas.
Sorry you have to be here, but glad you found us
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I had a lumpectomy on 7/22/16. The surgeon did not put any drains in and the tumor was 3cm and it was stage 2. I developed a hematoma immediately and when I saw the MD she said it would dissolve. The hematoma was the full size of my breast and under my arm. It was hard as a rock, very painful and very swollen. I kept having to go back to the surgeon to have lymph drained from under my arm. After 3 weeks she finally decide she needed to evacuate the hematoma. I then developed an infection but they did not believe me but my breast was red, warm and hard. Finally one day the breast just broke open and the infection came out. They then aspirated 120 ml of pus with an ultrasound. I then had to pack my breast with 2 1/2 feet of gauze. I completely lost confidence in the surgeon and asked my radiologist if he could recommend a new surgeon. I was not able to have any radiology due to the open wound. My new surgeon received my medical records from the old surgeon and he said she did not get clean margins. He recommended a mastectomy and I went for another MD and he recommended mastectomy. I am now waiting for reconstruction surgery. It is 1/24/17 and this started 7/22/16. I say if she had evacuated the hematoma and not waited 3 weeks I would not have had to have a mastectomy. I believe the hematoma caused bacteria which led to the infection. Has anyone had anything like this and what did you do? Thank you
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