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Readyforliving
Readyforliving Member Posts: 5

I was diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer in June 2009, admitedly it was a huge shock, only recently just having had my second child Alfie and having a four year old Molly it certainly makes you think about your own mortality.

However I knew that I had to get though it for my family and proceeded with the chemotherapy which all in all went OK, I then had to face surgery, I was having a lumpectomy and removal of infected lymph nodes. My surgery went ahead on the 30th November, but unfortunatley my histology results identified that there was not enough clearance and therefore I was scheduled for a wider excision on 21st December.  At last I thought this part of my treatment was over, however I recently had my histology results from my second operation to be told that they had found further microscopic cells of cancer and suggest a mastectomy.

I now have to face a mastectomy on the 25th January and to follow five weeks of radiotherapy.

At first I was positive and felt that I had three stages to go through, the chemo was really successful and reduced my cancer by nearly 70%, to follow the lumpectomy and then the radiotherapy. But it would seem I keep getting knocked again and again, and now have to face a mastectomy, dont get me wrong I am not alone and have a very supporting husband and family, but how much can one person really take..... I want to be positive about this next step but I cant seem to control this fear of the way I am going to look, I know that more importantly the Cancer will be eradicated but I cant help this feeling of helplessness....

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  • mississippiqueen
    mississippiqueen Member Posts: 29
    edited January 2010

    First, as others will say, I'm sorry to read you here.  I think I don't remain positive...I remain realistic.  And reality as my DH reminds me is that I get to stay around and be either 1) the love and light of his life, the butter on his bread, the ice in his drink, etc or 2) the PIA, either of which he says is fine as long as I am here.

    Helpless is a great way to describe what I'm sure we all feel regarding what has taken place and what will follow from a physical standpoint.  But as the saying goes, I control what comes from me, not what's done to me.  I will put this in the past...it will always be a skeleton in my closet but to quote another saying, "if you have skeletons in your closet, you best teach them to dance."

    Stay here, on this board either reading or posting. I do not post that much, except in times of fear and curiousity....but lately I've discovered that sharing my plight here and trying to emphathize with others has helped. 

    Our strongest wishes and support are with you.

  • tami444
    tami444 Member Posts: 259
    edited January 2010

    Readyforliving,

    cancer is a rollercoaster and with it our emotions.  During my journey, I always tried to look at the situation from a different perspective which helped.  I also always tried to find the positive even when the only positive thing I could say was "it could have been worse." 

    I had a biopsy turned lumpectomy and awoke to my surgeon (Dec 21, 2005) telling me it was cancer and it was bad (I was 39).  My mastectomy was Jan 11, 2006.  My husband and I looked at it as ... my life is not worth a limb.  Yes, it will affect the way you look without your clothes on, but you don't have to let it consume the way you feel.  I looked at it as if I did, it would be letting the cancer win and I'm a fighter.  It sounds like you are too.  You will get through this.

    There are different types of reconstruction if you want that.  Some people do it at the same time.  I was stage IV so I waited knowing that I needed the chemo and radiation ASAP.  I had so much radiation, that I waited a year after radiation completion before I even started looking for the right reconstructive surgeon.  There are many types out there ... investigate them all, BEFORE going to consults.  Some surgeons only tell you of the procedures they offer and do NOT tell you about other options.

    If you are going to consider reconstruction, let your radiation oncologist know.  I guess there is a difference between electrons and X-rays and using more X-rays than electrons causes less damage which is better if you're going to have reconstruction (I'm not an expert on this).  

    I'm rather large (D ... and thus VERY lopsided when I only had one breast) and with so much radiation damage to my chest wall I could not do an implant.  I had a stacked DIEP (took six inches of stomach skin, NO muscle, and all my stomach fat).  So the positive thing about my reconstruction ... in effect I got the insurance company to pay for a tummy tuck.   

    Also on the mastectomy ... are you using someone who specializes in breast surgery or an average "cut it out" kind of surgeon?  Some are better than others.  I was lucky, my guy didn't specialize in breast surgery, but he at least had forethought and some exerience in making it easier for the next guy.  Sometimes they are able to save the nipple, sometimes they can leave some of the fat and skin (none in my case).  Mine left a nerve that the reconstruction surgeon found and reattached.  My reconstruction dr said that his patients will call him a year or two later and tell him that, "one day my boob just woke up and had feeling again."  Nerves can grow back (but never through an implant).  My oncologists and physical therapists actually complimented me my scar which took me by surprise since I never considered it prior to surgery.  So ... do some research and ask around about your surgeon.

    As hard as it is ... you will get through this,

    good luck and lot's of hugs,

    Tami

  • everyminute
    everyminute Member Posts: 1,805
    edited January 2010

    I am also realistic.  I am hopeful.  I have moments where I am neither.

    You dont have to be positive about this next step.  You can hate it, just as long as you do it!

    I had a bilateral mast with reconstruction (implants) - I did it before chemo.  I look pretty good now - hubby likes the boobs - I have no feeling so I guess I dont care much either way.

  • Texas357
    Texas357 Member Posts: 1,552
    edited January 2010

    First, as others have said, expect the emotional rollercoaster. Every time something new has happened, I've had a good cry but I don't allow it to send me spiraling downward. I'm a planner and I like to look at everything from all sides. I do lots of research so that I'm ready with questions and to know that I've made the best possible decisions.

    On a more personal note, when I was diagnosed, I told everyone that I no longer had time for crabby people. If someone chooses to be petty or selfish, then I tell them it's not helpful to me and they are welcome to spend time around me when they are in a more positive frame of mind. That has helped immensely! I feel more in control and stronger -- choosing to be around positive people who help me to stay positive.

    Lastly, I try to get as much exercise as possible -- at least 30 minutes a day for "me". I find that exercising and eating right makes me feel better about myself.

    Accept that you will have days when everything feels like it's caving in on you. But those days don't have to dominate your life. Don't forget to laugh and find little things that make you smile every day. We laughed in the chemo room .. I was cracking jokes with the nurses and my doctor before my mastectomy. I spend time doing things that I'm passionate about, and I choose to spend time around the people who bring  me the most pleasure.  

    Despite the diagnosis, or maybe because of it, now is the time to create the life you deserve to live.

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited January 2010

    I would just say that you will have good days and you will have bad days, but eventually the good days will be more, the bad days will be few.

    I mostly have good days. I would say that I am very happy. Apart from the stupid cancer thing. I know what could happen. I am hopeful it won't! In the meantime, I cope by just not letting myself go "there".

    I have little kids too (2 and 4 when Dx, they are now 4 and 6) In a way they have helped by making me ruthless in my decisions - Mastectomy - sure, Chemo, bring it on....Anything to give me a better chance of being around for them. 

    BTW, I had a single Mastectomy, no recon. It really isn't that bad. I don't even think about it, except when I wash my prosthesis before going to bed. I am used to it, my kids are used to it, my husband still has one boob to grope, which seems enough for him! It truely doesn't look that bad, just different.

    I'm sorry you seem to keep being hit by "more" - it does upset your equilibrium a bit. But you just have to do what you have to do. One foot in front of the other, you will get through it.

  • lexislove
    lexislove Member Posts: 2,645
    edited January 2010

    Kerry is right,

    Going through treatment and a few weeks after treatment.....I had waaaaaay more bad days than good.

    What helped was basically getting back to my normal activities. At the time it was taking my 3 yr old to the park, grocery shopping, house duties, getting out with friends for lunch. Getting back to a normal helped me feel positive.

    As the time moves on, those bad days are less.

     I have now anxiety days, going for a mammogram, onc check ups. But those come few, and when they are over I dont even think about them. I look forward, not back. I have done all treatment to date. I have been aggressive. Chemo,mastectomy,rads,Herceptin,Lupron,Zometa, Tamox and will be switching to an AI. I have to feel confident that I will be ok. The odds are in my favor....yours too.

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited January 2010

    Gosh I think I posted something so similar to this before. How to be positive.

    It comes-trust me but I take a lot of peace in knowing I had a full masectomy and complete auxilarry node dissection. I knew I wanted at leats 15 nodes tested and I wanted clean margins.

    I am going to have my other breast taken off and then get recon.

    A breast is  nothing to me if it means saving my life.

     This is a journey-a marathon-not a sprint. You have to go through it to get to the other side. Come here often for support....You can and will do this.

    Make sure you get zometa as well!!!!!

  • Readyforliving
    Readyforliving Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2010

    Thanks to all of you for giving me such great advice, I didnt realise how great this could be, you know you always say yeah I'll join a forum, but never seem to find the time, I am so pleased that I did.

    I do feel a lot more positive about my operation and like you have all said I have my ups and downs, but I look at my children who give me a little smile and I know what I have to do!! 

    I do have one question though alot of you mention Zometa, I have never heard of it what is it for???

  • everyminute
    everyminute Member Posts: 1,805
    edited January 2010

    Here is where the forum will really be worth it's weight in gold - research already done for you!

    In early clinical trials Zometa is showing reduction in recurrence when given to women with early stage breast cancer - possible anti cancer process as well as keeps bones strong for those of us on AI.  This has just been in the last year or two.

    Tamoxifen metabolizing test - if you will be on tamox (and not AI) you should request, beg, ask for tamoxifent metabolizing test.  There is a small (10) percentage of women who are poor metabolizers for whom an AI might be a better choice (either with ooph or lupron shots). There are also intermediate metabolizers and extensive metabolizers.  This is all pretty new too.

    Vitamin D3 - have your levels checked and ask re supplementation.  Lower levels show higher levels of recurrence.

    Exercise daily! At least 30 mins.  Has been shown to reduce recurrence

  • Readyforliving
    Readyforliving Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2010

    everyminute

     Thanks for the info on Zometa, my onc has suggested Tamox so this is something that I can explore further with him after my mastectomy.

  • Beverly11
    Beverly11 Member Posts: 443
    edited January 2010

    I don't have too much to add to what everyone has said.  Do everything in your power to improve your situation.  If gives you a little bit of a sense of control too.  Diet, exercise, supplements, zometa. 

    Do things you enjoy, surround yourself with positive people.  

    Bev

  • Let-It-Be
    Let-It-Be Member Posts: 325
    edited January 2010

    My sister in-law came with me for my surgery (Mastectomy) and she said it all "It's just a F***ing boob".  Some girls are not even given a fighting chance from the get go.  Practice gratitude.  You even have options to have new boobs!!  How good is that?  I know, it all sucks, but I'm glad I have had treatment and options.  I get a chance to live.  I get life.  For how long?  Who knows, but I have a chance!!

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited January 2010

    I had a bi-lat masectomy (will do recon after radiation), chemo and getting ready to start radiation.  The advice by everyone else is wonderful and I'm probably repeating what they've said...... It seems early on we have a lot of bad days, but the good days begin to outweigh the bad. It does get better.  For me, humor has been the best way to make things right on a bad day and I learned to laugh at myself a lot over the last six months and I'm sure there is plenty more to go. 

  • Brit2001
    Brit2001 Member Posts: 28
    edited January 2010

    When I was diagnosed with DCIS in May 2007 I was devastated but I decided that BC wasn't going to beat me. It took a part of me away but I was still alive and able to fight it.  I had a lumpectomy done and 7 sentinal lymph nodes removed.  No BC in the nodes but two weeks later had to go back for reincision as the margins were too close.  This was followed by 33 radiation treatments and Tamoxifen.  I thought my treatments were over. 

    In January 2009 my radiated breast began to get tight then over the next 6 months became hard, painful and misshapen.  I already had implants and the radiation caused capsular contracture. My radiation oncologist suggested I see a PS.  I actually saw 3, each one giving me a different option.  I finally decided on a bilateral skin and nipple saving masectomy with a DIEP.  I had enough tummy fat for two breasts and decided I just wanted both implants out and reduce my risk of BC. I looked for the positive - smaller breasts, free tummy tuck!!!  I ended up having a DIEP in one and an SIEA in the other.  I am now 4 weeks out and happy with my decision.

    I know I have another surgery to go through, but thankfully nowhere as long as this one.  As others have said you will have good days and bad days but with family and friends to support you, you will make it through.  I need to be around for a lot longer for my children and grandchildren, and I will not let BC win.  I feel blessed because mine was caught early and there are women a lot worse off than I am.  Your breasts do not make you the person you are, it is who you are inside.  Good luck and I hope everything goes well for you.

  • Maire67
    Maire67 Member Posts: 768
    edited July 2010
  • Ezscriiibe
    Ezscriiibe Member Posts: 598
    edited January 2010

    It's so hard to add to what everyone else has said already. And, to be honest, I'm just beginning this go 'round, though I did have a cancer battle about 25 years ago, it feels "different" now that it's affected my breast. I don't know why, but it does. I suppose the uterine/ovarian cancer was basically "hidden" from everyone else's view. Only I would know a part of me was "missing."

    I know you can rationalize that about the breast too, but given that it's much more visible in general, it just seems more public.

    I hope I can remain positive. I'm sure there will be times when I'll be quite a downer bi*ch, though. 

    But one thing I keep trying to remember is that more women die from heart disease than from breast cancer. At least that's what I heard. I really can't back that up with stats, but that's what I tell myself, anyway! And from all reports, my heart's doing pretty darn good!

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited January 2010

    i just take one day at a time. i try to not get too far ahead of myself and if i am alive...doing my stuff...each day...i am feeling pretty good. i try each day to really embrace my life...just on that day...my friends..my home...my cats...and anything else that makes me feel good. some days are harder then others...but generally, i really am grateful for each day. not easy, but necessary.

  • Diana63
    Diana63 Member Posts: 773
    edited January 2010

    Yeah, what they said, and I am going to try to start planning as if I'm living until I'm 80.

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