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  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited December 2009

    Konakat, welcome home. Hope you have an easy transition back to Canada.

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited December 2009

    Konakat, welcome back to the board!  LOL about Chloe wondering where the other rooms are!  Hope you're having a happy landing (with cake involved as needed!).

    Count me in as another "conscientious objector" !!!  I'm honoured to be in the company of Lewing, Rico, Layne and Enjoyful!

    Lindasa, I had the same thought about viral political stuff...  and Lewing (as you said a few days ago), "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is exactly what some of this stuff reminds me of...

  • mke
    mke Member Posts: 584
    edited December 2009

    Welcome home Konakat.  I never had such a good customs experience.  But I've had some pretty funny customs experiences.

    I missed the whole protocols of Zion thing - is that some Mormon thing?

    Enjoyful, U of Waterloo is great, but I'm surprised that the campus should have captured your attention.  It always seemed a bit bleak to me.  I may have been there too often in the winter.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited December 2009

    Ann - Nice "U" technique! 

    mke - We like it because it's small AND it's in Canada.  LOL.  Meg would be lost on a large campus.  She also sat in on a couple of classes and was impressed with the instructors, the students, and the laid-back atmosphere.  It's hard to put it into words, but it was love at first sight for Meg!

  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited December 2009

    U of Waterloo is wonderful. And if she really wants a smaller community there are the little residential colleges (St. Jerome, Conrad Grebel, and some others) that really provide a home base for their kids.

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited December 2009

    mke, there's a brief summary of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" at this link:

    http://www.skepdic.com/protocols.html

    Some of the "one world government/socialist takeover/government-run healthcare/death panels/Obama's thugs" language has led more than one of us to wonder, "what's next, the Elders of Zion?"

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited December 2009

    Thanks, revkat!  They told us a little about the colleges but I'm not sure how the whole system works.  They didn't have such things at my university.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2009

    mke:  There's lots of info about the Protocols on the web, but I'd suggest this one for a short, concise history: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/protocols

    Linda

    Edited to add:  Darn, posting at the same time as Ann -- again!!!

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited December 2009

    Not a Mormon thing, mke . . . it's a document dating back to czarist Russia purporting to show a Jewish conspiracy for world domination.  I threw it out there after hearing for the umpteenth time how U.S. health care reform is a plot by the Federal Reserve and the IRS to give more women cancer so that Ezekiel Emmanuel can euthanize them.  Or something like that.  Arghhh!

    Linda

    (edited to add: I obviously missed the last page of posts that explained the reference.  oops.)

  • Kyta
    Kyta Member Posts: 713
    edited December 2009

    Welcome home Elizabeth, glad you had a safe journey.

  • mke
    mke Member Posts: 584
    edited December 2009

    Thanks for the references.  I don't think I will delve into it very deeply.  I guess I thought it might be a Mormon thing because of Zion National Park.

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited December 2009

    add my voice to the wecloming chorus Elizabeth!

    Not so sure about the sane politics here - just a different kind of nuts. Our Prime Minister just presented his economic report from his very much delayed trip to China. Delivering it outside the House (again) means that he doesn't have to answer questions on it. And why would the Chinese want to hear his economic report?!

    Enjoyful, Waterloo certainly is an excellent university although I'm not so sure about "small" - it's one of the larger ones here in Ontario. Revcat is so right about the colleges within a university as point of identity and residence. Some colleges define which courses a person can take and some don't - worth checking before choosing one.

    I notice on another thread, a person agreed she had been duped on one of the more outrageous claims about health care reform. Turns out it won't force all Americans to have a tracking microchip inserted after all.

  • covertanjou
    covertanjou Member Posts: 569
    edited December 2009

    Well, I just lost it on another thread.   I don't know why I bother reading some of the other threads.  The lies perpetuated about Canada's healthcare system is truly disgusting.  I really think that certain people spend their time googling problems in Canada so they could feel better about themselves......UGH....sorry neeed to vent!!!!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2009

    Mary, it's like the townhalls and the teabaggers' protests:  If you shout it out long enough and loud enough, maybe you'll capture the imagination of the naive and the uneducated.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited December 2009

    Louder makes more righter.  :-)

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2009
    Hahahaha!  And I see a double entendre in that there statementWink!
  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited December 2009

    What a warm welcome back!!!  I'm a bit more awake now -- full of shortbread cookies and coffee.

    LAYNE -- I now know what to get Mom for Christmas -- Idiot Americans.  I'll get a copy for myself from the library. 

    Waterloo is a wonderful university and beautiful area.  ENJOYFUL -- you will be able to come to the Ontario get-togethers!  I can't wait for my first one.

    My-my -- the health care bill and mammo guidelines have become a zionist protocol?  How things morph over a few days.  Hahahaha -- re. microchipping pets!  I'm trying not to get pissed at some of the posts, sometimes I gotta say something.

    I've suffered without the internet and you ladies.  Somehow I have to detach myself from my laptop today and get some curtains and other stuff.  I've already flashed the apartment dwellers across the street a few times.  And a library card!  I need books!  It feels pretty nice being home.  Your welcome back means so very much to me.  Big smooches.

    Elizabeth

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2009

    Layne, I just read the first chapter of Pierce's opus online at Amazon.   Just not sure if I could stomach any more of itTongue out!  But I can see that it could be the basis of very interesting conversations at holiday cocktail parties.......!

    Linda

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited December 2009

    Ooops -- didn't mean to get the title of the book wrong.  Maybe it was because I was catching up on the threads and read a post about only the US having a constitution.  Too hilarious!! 

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2009

    But Layne, one can only take so much "stupid"Tongue out!

    I haven't read Empire of Illusion yet and now I don't think I will (not supposed to imbibe too much alcohol, ya know).  The last chapter was excerpted in the Globe & Mail a couple of months ago, which gave me a good idea of its contents......oh dear!

    To change the subject:  Sad to see that NY State Senate has decided that the LGBT folks don't deserve equal rights after allCry.

    Linda

     

  • Rico
    Rico Member Posts: 128
    edited December 2009

    Mary:

    I can only imagine how sick of the Canada bashing you and everyone else must be. My response would be to ask them what I asked you guys a few days ago. 

    Name one Canadian politician or public figure who is currently arguing to privatize the Canadian system. I mean, if it's as horrendous as people say it is (worse than the free clinics in the U.S. where some people are treated in cattle stalls), then it shouldn't be at all difficult to name names. Seriously.

    But be sure to warn them that Sarah Palin doesn't count! 

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited December 2009

    I remember about 10 years ago in Alberta (?) the premier brought up 2-tier health care (Harris, can't remember his name???) but it never amounted to anything.  It happens once in a while but never goes anywhere.  It just goes against the grain -- having 2 tier health care equates, to me, 1st and 2nd class citizens.  That's just plain wrong.

  • covertanjou
    covertanjou Member Posts: 569
    edited December 2009

    Rico:

    I love it your response!!  As many of us already wrote, NO Canadian politician would dare try to privatize healthcare.  It would be the end of their career.

    On another note, my dad was rushed to the emergency on Wednesday.  He had a high fever and was having trouble breathing.  He was seen immediately by doctors who were afraid he had H1N1.  Thankfully he doesn't.  He has pneumonia (not a good thing to have when you are 80).  He is doing much better today.  He is getting great care, and I am so grateful I live in this great country where my elderly parents don't have to worry about "death panels" and arguing with insurance companies. 

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2009

    Mary, sending good thoughts and wishes for your dad to have a full recovery.

    Hugs, Linda

  • Rico
    Rico Member Posts: 128
    edited December 2009

    Mary:

    Sending mega positive vibes your dad's way. 

    This is kind of a crappy time of year for me. My father was diagnosed with terminal cancer a few days before Christmas several years ago.

    If it were within my power, I would make it a rule that nothing bad can happen to the people we love at this time of the year. It's so wrong. 

    Please keep us up to date with how he's doing. 

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited December 2009

    Mary, wishing all the best for your father. 

    Linda

  • Rico
    Rico Member Posts: 128
    edited December 2009

    enjoyful got censored on Shirley's thread.

    I guess that's one way to win an argument. 

    Sorry, ladies, for you guys getting dragged into America's insanity. 

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited December 2009
    I saw that!  Reading the posts is a mix of frustration and entertainment.  Rico, you and some others have been posting some well thought out comments. OMG re. some others.  Wink
  • Rico
    Rico Member Posts: 128
    edited December 2009

    I guess it stopped being funny for me when Shirley tried to defend health care in a stall.

    I think she's actually serious. 

  • konakat
    konakat Member Posts: 6,085
    edited December 2009

    Re. dirty hospitals -- there's a shockingly dirty one (from my g/f's experience) in Boston, one of the biggies -- it happens even in the US...  Their energy might be better spent searching out and exposing such things at home and get them corrected.

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