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Pure
Pure Member Posts: 1,796

1) How much vit d-3 do you take-I heard it should be 10mg a week?

2) Anyone know if Q10 is ok to take during chemo ( I know it's good for your heart)

3) Tell me how different chemo was in 1998 please:)

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  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited November 2009

    1) - I take 2000 iu's Vit D a day in Summer, just upped it to 4000iu's for winter

    2) - I was told no supplements until after Rads.....

    3) - yep, chemo in 1998 was crap. (don't really know this but I thought it might make you feel better Wink

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited November 2009
  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited November 2009

    I just keep hearing of people reoccuring that got diagnosed 1998-

  • gogo_xago
    gogo_xago Member Posts: 131
    edited November 2009

    do you know if vit D is OK during chemo or during radiation?

  • hollyann
    hollyann Member Posts: 2,992
    edited November 2009

    gogo no supplements til after rads.......

    PureE, what is your diagnosis, stage grade?......

  • Celtic_Spirit
    Celtic_Spirit Member Posts: 748
    edited November 2009

    1. I take 4,500 iu's per day plus walk in the noonday, California sun daily for 20 minutes.

    2. Don't know what Q10 is.

    3. Chemo in 1998 didn't include the taxanes, which are especially good for node-positive cancer. I believe they were just beginning clinical trials for the taxanes for early-stage bc (stages 1-3). Anti-nausea meds weren't as good then as they are now. Emend didn't hit the market until the early years of this century.

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited November 2009

    Another major advance was the Neupogen and Neulasta shots - they allowed dose densing, allowed higher doses of drugs, and also allowed people to continue with their Chemo after becoming neutropenic.

    Apparently 50% of people who developed febrile neutropenia used to die....(I got it)

    I took Vit D and calcoium during rads, my onc was more concerned about high dose supplements. 

  • Octobergirl
    Octobergirl Member Posts: 334
    edited November 2009

    I take 2000 ius Vit. D3 daily. Took it through chemo and rads;  medical onc's PA recommended that dosage and  said I need it and rad. onc. said fine.  No high dose supplements.

    I don't know about chemo in 1998. Sorry.

  • Sunflower64
    Sunflower64 Member Posts: 166
    edited November 2009

    hi kerry,

    i like your new picture.  i sent you a private message.

    diane

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited November 2009

    I take 2000 of vit d-3 but sort of wondering if I should....  I don't take it week of chemo though.... I wonder why high dose is bad of supplements.  Co Q 10 -I wonder if that is considered a supplement.

  • gfrey
    gfrey Member Posts: 43
    edited November 2009

    I took a multivitamin, Ca++/Mag/D supplement during AC, and added a B-complex during Taxol (to potentially help w/nerve function). I also took glutamine after chemo to help w/my white cells. Nothing was really megadosed. D is fat soluble so you do have to be careful. Fat soluble vitamins can be toxic in high enough doses; they're stored in the liver and can be hard to process. Water soluble vitamins (e.g. C) are quickly eliminated--your body just gets rid of what it doesn't use. Here is a nice fact sheet from the Colorado State U. Extension office that discusses fat soluble vitamins. http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/foodnut/09315.html

    My onc ok'd everything I took. The B-complex was recommended by a neurologist and I had no real nerve problems while on Taxol. The L-glutamine is a naturally occurring amino acid and a precursor to neutrophils. My sister was told to take it during her chemo by her onc and her blood work has been consistently good. My white cells immediately rebounded when I started taking it. It may not work for everyone, but it won't hurt you.

    Co-enzyme Q is considered a supplement. It helps with cellular respiration and is an important part of mitochondrial function, but the research is not consistent with regard to it as a supplement. I don't believe excess CoQ can hurt you.

    I was advised not to start anything new while on chemo and I would imagine this is particularly true for you since your pregnant. Just keep going with your healthy diet and exercise and you'll weather this storm.

  • Beverly11
    Beverly11 Member Posts: 443
    edited November 2009

    I run my supplements past the pharmacist at our cancer clinic.  She is very helpful.  They subscribe to a website and sometimes provide me with information that I don't have access too.

     I take 5000 iu of vitamin D3 daily.  I had my vitamin  D level tested in January and it is on the low side.  Not critical but I want to get it to the optimum level. 

    I too find comfort in knowing that our chemo regime has improved since 1998.  In Canada, Taxotere was not standard treatment until just a few years ago.  I spoke to one lady that had chemo in 2005 and she did not receive taxotere.  One lady got it after she fought for it.

    Was there a certain year that chemo treatments improved?

  • Brenda_R
    Brenda_R Member Posts: 509
    edited November 2009

    I was treated in 2007 and I didn't get a taxane, not even with my Herceptin.  After my old onc retired and I first saw my new one, she questioned why I didn't get it and I told her I wondered that too (I was too sick at the time to think about asking). She just kind of said well it's too late now since I've been done with chemo for 2 years, and so far NED.  But now I always question if I should have got it.

  • gogo_xago
    gogo_xago Member Posts: 131
    edited November 2009

    sorry one stupid question. Which drug is taxane? Is a chemo drug or something else???

  • lexislove
    lexislove Member Posts: 2,645
    edited November 2009

    Taxol or Taxotere are the taxane drugs. They are very similar, commonly referred to as "sister drugs".

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited November 2009

    They are -same drug-very similar outcomes just they feel now that taxol weekly is easier to tolerate. Most docs will start with that-and my doc thinkg the weekly scheudle has better survial outcomes (slightly) due to the drug being in your system. Actually I am doing my aux the same way-over a 2 week period with 3 weeks off.

  • kim40
    kim40 Member Posts: 904
    edited November 2009

    1.  I take 2000iu's of Vit. D per day.  Thinking about upping it though for the winter.

    2.  I was also told no supplements until after rads.

    3.  As for chemo back in 1998, I'm sure it was even nastier than it is now!

  • Texas357
    Texas357 Member Posts: 1,552
    edited November 2009

    I take 2000 IUs of D3. I don't do as much in the summer.

    2. No supplements until after rads. The reason is that you don't want to add mega doses of antioxidants. Chemo and rads capitalize on your body's oxidation process. Antioxidants would lessen the effect. I continued to take Calcium plus D for bone health throughout treatment, and both my medical and radiation oncologists okayed a multivitamin.

  • carcharm
    carcharm Member Posts: 486
    edited November 2009

    I went to the head of integrative medicine at the Cleveland Clinic to find out how to eat better with a dx of cancer. She suggested the anti-inflammatory diet in addition she ran a vitamin d level. Normal levels are 30-60 mine was 18.8. She has me on 10,000iu of viatmin d3 for 3 months and she will retest at that time to make sure my level  is no lower than 60. Most docs say 50 but she is a breast cancer survivor and in her studies found that 60 is the best level to maintain.She will drop me down to the necessary level at that time. Unfortunately, not all docs will screen for your levels so you need to ask for it. Another interesting test she ran was an MTHFR. This is actually a genetic test to see if folate is metabolized correctly in the brain. I turned out to be heterozygous + which means I don't metabolize it correctly. Side effects are enhanced depressive moods which I am definetely experiencing since my dx. I am now on a superfood called deplin. It's amazing the advances in medicine that are out there if you find the right docs that know about them. I'll let you know if it helps.

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited November 2009

    What is Deplin?

  • clariceak
    clariceak Member Posts: 752
    edited November 2009

    I'm taking 2,000 of vitamin D during chemo.  My vitamin d level was only 17 when tested. I'm hoping to up that when I go to California for rads.

    She didn't mention anything about waiting until after chemo. so I confirm this with her.

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