What is your approach/"protocol"?
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I'm finding myself getting down a little again by posts elsewhere on the forum, so I thought I'd post something proactive/positive before I head to bed. (If there's another thread like this already, my apologies - I'd love a link to it! Actually this is probably all throughout the natural girls thread!)
What is your anti-cancer battle plan?
Here is mine:
- Only fresh, organic food (vegetables, apples, berries, nuts, seeds, legumes), raw or lightly steamed
- 30 minutes exercise every day... ideally brisk walking outdoors
- 30 minutes outdoor time for the sunshine and fresh air (if my exercise that day wasn't an outdoor walk)
- Breakfast: Budwig's cottage cheese + flax oil concoction (except I make mine with Greek yogurt... 6 T. Greek yogurt plus 3 T. cold-pressed flax seed oil, blended with a hand blender), mixed with raw nuts and berries... this is actually DELICIOUS and I already look forward to my breakfast of this every morning
- Lunch: Green smoothies. One cup spring water, a blender full of baby spinach or other leafy greens, an apple (seeds and all!), a lemon (including seeds but only a portion of the peel), spirulina, an inch of fresh ginger root, and sometimes some frozen blueberries... blended together. This is so yummy... usually I'll throw a big spoonful of other things like powdered vitamin C or brewer's yeast (for the selenium).
- Dinner: a gigantic salad with a spritz of balsamic vinegar instead of dressing. I load up my salad with all the cancer-fighting greens and raw veggies I have on hand that day! Usually I'll have a tiny amount of whatever I cooked the hubby for dinner (if it's healthy too).
- 400 to 600 mg CoQ10
- 20 or more raw apricot kernels per day, chewed well (these are starting to grow on me!)
- 4,000 to 8,000 IU vitamin D
- Vitamin C (in the form of a powder that I dump into herbal tea or smoothies)
- Essiac tea daily, as soon as it arrives in the mail
- Liver cleanse and various other cleanses in the book The Complete Cancer Cleanse
- Plenty of positive thoughts (trying, on that one!), affirmation mp3's as I'm falling asleep at night, and most of all, a lot of PRAYER and reading Scripture
- NO microwave-heated food, NO tap water (shopping for a good filter and in the meantime I drink spring water), NO parabens and other harmful chemicals in skin care/cosmetic stuff, and I'm trying to switch to cleaning with vinegar and baking soda
- NO coffee (I'm trying a dandelion root/chicory coffee substitute), NO alcohol, NO refined sugar, NO artificial sweeteners (ouch, giving up the Splenda was SO hard)
- Plenty of sleep at night (oops, it's 12:30 am so I need to get to it) in complete darkness - important for melatonin levels
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You forgot the email forwards that bras and antiperspirants cause breast cancer. Don't forget to eliminate them.
I think I can dig up some more email forwards about the causes of cancer if you like. Only too happy to assist the cause.
Oh yes, chlorination in water and fluoridation.
You may end up stinky, flopping around, toothless and suffering from bacterial or protozoan diarrhea, but at least you will have struck a blow for email forwarders everywhere !
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Thanks for your as-always helpful, positive, sincere contribution, LJ13-2!
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Julie, I also turned down the chemo although I did have the radiation treatments (mainly because I was under the delusion at the time that they would have a positive impact on my overall survival chances). I found an excellent naturopathic doctor in my area who runs a breast cancer recovery program. With her help, I'm following a protocol which consists of:
Diet: all organic foods, vegetarian two days a week (I have Type O blood so as such apparently I need to eat a certain amount of meat). I usually have a huge salad for lunch every day and in that I incorporate my ground flax seeds and flax seed oil and dulce. I limit my fat and sugar intake, no longer drink sodas of any kind (that part was hard for me). I am allowed one cup of coffee per week and no more than 1 serving of dairy daily. On top of that, there are many things that I've added to my diet that I never used to eat before - things like: pumpkin seeds, nuts, 3 cups of green tea every day, etc.
Supplements: Melatonin, Vitamin D, Omega 3 oil supplement, Maitake D, Curcumin, CoQ10, Calcium Complete. One supplement that I did take for many months after my surgery was modified citrus pectin. It's very beneficial for the initial post-surgery period. I notice that you listed Essiac. There is some controversy about the use of Essiac for breast cancer patients. There was one study that showed lab critters being more prone to grow malignant breast tumours when fed Essiac. I had been taking FlorEssence (the Canadian version of Essiac) but after this study, my naturopath designed an herbal concoction for me that I have made up at a herbalist's. If you're interested in this formula, just PM me and I'll send it to you.
Lifestyle and Environment: Now use only all natural, organic cleaning products and hygiene products. Excercise 30 minutes daily using my Wiiii Fit (love my WiiiiiFit). I also attend aquafit classes (in a saltwater pool so very little chlorine), yoga classes, Qui Gong classes, a Healing Journey program (heavy emphasis on spirituality), a weekly mind body spirit connection class. I practice "mind watching", relaxation and visualization techniques. I do dry skin brushing daily before my shower and my shower consists of alternating hot and cold water. I also take a weekly sauna.
It's funny but when I read through the above list, it sounds like a lot of work but it actually isn't - it's a lot of fun for the most part and heaven knows that I feel better now than I have in years and years.
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Hi Crunchy,
Here is what im doing (altho im a bit slack sometimes, then i freak out and go serious again)..
General diet: vegetables particularly dark green ones(raw and steamed); fruit - less than vegies; nuts, seeds, beans, chickpeas, lentils, soy/tofu, wholegrains (i do eat white rice but i shudnt. i need to stop), corn. I drink green tea, herbals, vegie juice, soy milk, and sometimes fruit juice and water. I also drink wheatgrass juice. sometimes i will have honey or maple syrup but very sparingly - like less than monthly or hardly at all. i eat eggs occasionally; and i still eat fish from time to time altho i am trying to stop and plan to stop.
No red meat, dairy, alcohol (altho i slip up somteims), caffeine (no black tea or coffee), no sugar (altho i do slip up slightly occasionally, which i need to stop.), no processed or fast foods (altho i eat some aisian vegetarian dishes without msg - malasian usually).
My daily diet:
green salad for breakfast. and lunch too somtimes. (full of good things): like: almond or other nuts; i try to eat almonds and brazil nuts every day; green leafy lettuce or spinach - dark green; onion, garlic chopped; raw brocolli; seeds (pepita etc); cucumber; tomatoes; beans or chickpeas; herbs; olive or flaxseed or apricot kernel oil and lime juice. and avocado chopped. and sometimes sprouts as well/alfalfa. (i usually have some extra nuts - almonds usually) and dried fruit or fruit on the side of my plate wiht this salad.
i eat homemade hummus. (chickpeas, lime juice, tahini, 4 x garlic, olive oil) on corn crackers usually.
i eat a lot of corn crackers cuz i cant eat wheat. i also eat rice as the grain.
i try to eat beans, chickpeas, lentils (dahl is good recipe , indian).
i try to drink vegie juice as often as possible (carrot, apple incl seeds, cucumber, celery, ginger, lime juice) also i buy boost vegie juices.
i eat vegetarian sushi rolls quite often for the seaweed which is anti cancer.
i drink a lot of green tea.
i eat an apricot kernel every now and then.
i have been on essiac tea a while ago.
i eat cats claw tablets every so often to boost my immunity.
i also eat Q 10 for my heart.
i eat chinese herbs daily.
i try to get enuf vitamin c and i eat a magnesium and b vit supplement or have mg baths.
im sposed to drink wheatgrass juice twice a day but often lately i forget. but i intend to start up again.
i do eat tofu with some meals.
i have been on colloidal silver for immune system and zeolite to get the probable mercury overload out of my system. but ive stopped now.
sometimes i take lugol's solution if im feeling a bit panicky (like two drops to four drops), well i used to. now i just eat sushi regularly or wakame seaweed.
i have regular acupuncture to increase my energy levels and improve my mood.
i do qi gong whenever im getting stressed to relax me. altho i shud do it more than i do, becuz its really good.
i meditate sometimes, to decrease stress.
i shud be exercising more than i am probably. but i dont overdo it if im feeling tired. i only do what i feel my post chemo body can handle.
i just want to say how good the chinese herbs are for me. before i had them i felt CRAP. if i eat them like im sposed to, i have good energy and i can just feel this 'hit' of energy, and that they make me feel better.
I wud strongly recommend anyone recovering from chemo to eat chinese herbs and see their chinese doctor for diet advice. it helped me recover from chemo so much and to feel so much more positive mentally. i owe my chinese doctor a lot, i think. he also makes you smile for no reason as part of exercises, and this really helps improve the mood and is good for the body too.
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oh yeah, i try to elminate all chemicals from around me.
no preservatives in food.
no parabens etc in my cosmetics (or mercury!!!!) i use natural mineral make up when i have to wear it.
i go to the health shop for deodorant; i try not to wear a bra (altho sometimes i wear a soft one);
yeah; i only use akin natural products on my hair
i use a strawberry cut in half for skin treatment and also akin products which i love cuz the herbs smell so strong, like the rosemary shampoo i have is great. ive always loved the smells of things.
i try to cultivate a relaxed attitude to everything - or it cud just be the effect of the chemo on me - now i just dont care!!!!
but sometimes i dont succeed... but i try. and do qi gong when i get stressed.
you know two things that are annoying me: i feel that im forced to wear hairspray for work, i cant find a natural substitute, and i really dislike spraying chemicals on me. I work in an office in the city so i have to look presentable. dont know if anyone knows a solution? also does anyone know of any natural body sprays? i used to use 'impulse' body sprays but cant see the alternative in a health shop.
also i dont drink flouride in water; i avoid plastic drink bottles; i never microwave food; i avoid aluminium near food, etc.
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I also take CoQ10, and have added Vitamin D-3, fish oil, turmeric.
I use only Crystal Stick deodorant, avoid bottled water, stopped constantly painting my nails.
Take shorter showers (inhale less chemicals), stopped using any dryer sheets (puts chemicals all over you), microwave less, wear Bare Minerals makeup. Rarely use hairspray.
I won't eat flax or soy, since they have shown to have the estrogen effect, and the last thing I need is more estrogen. Cut back on diet sodas. Trying to drink more green tea. Don't eat sugar. Have a Brita filter on my tap.
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Hi Fairyfloss,
Question for you--why do you avoid aluminum near food? I haven't heard/read about that connection.
I haven't been able to find a decent natural hairspray. One I did try made my hair kind of clumpy. I do use J/a/s/o/n products--hair gel and sculpting gel and they give me the lift I need.
Been using Avalon Organics for shampoo. Like you, I love the aromas of shampoos, etc... You mentioned Akin products--I Just checked out their website and may try some of their shampoos.
What brand of deoderant have you found to be useful? I've tried Alba and Tom's of Maine, but haven't been thrilled. (Haven't tried the crystal stick that inspiewriter mentions).
I also haven't found a replacement for the perfumes I used to love to wear.
Thanks!
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I'm trying to find a deodorant as well that works in the Texa humid heat! Any suggestions?
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A naturopathic practitioner suggested that, instead of deodorant, use either lemon juice or alcohol (i.e.. vodka) because they both kill the bacteria that cause unpleasant odours.
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I just heard the other day of somebody using coconut oil for deodorant! I tried it yesterday and it seems to have been effective, but of course, I live in Minnesota where there isn't much cause for me to sweat! Coconut oil does have antibacterial properties, so it kind of makes sense. The crystal stick deodorants do work pretty well too. Even my husband uses one now as he finds it more effective than regular deodorant.
I use coconut oil for both my hands and face. You'd think it would leave an oily residue, but it actually absorbs into your skin really quickly. Works great! Yes, you do smell a little like coconuts, but I like the smell!
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Interesting about using lemon juice, alcohol, or coconut oil as a deodorant, hrf and DGHoff! I've also heard of people using aluminum-free baking soda... they brush it on with a make-up brush or something. Tom's of Maine (aluminum-free) deodorant works fine for me.
This is great stuff, girls... I had posted this in the natural girls thread, but I'll post here too for the sake of having stuff like this in one place... it's what my friend who did a 3-week stay at the Hippocrates Institute does:
Julia,
Diet-wise, I am following the prescription of Hippocrates Health Institute for healing. It's detailed in books, etc., but I'll give you the basics. Ready? It's very very strict! Sure you're ready for this? It is NOT how most raw foodists eat! Okay, here it goes:
Daily foundation:
Two 2-oz. shots of wheatgrass
Two 12-24 oz. glasses of green juice (50% of which must be sunflower sprouts and pea sprouts; the rest can be cucumber/celery/?)
Two green salads (50% of which must be sprouts -- the above plus more common ones: alfafa, broccoli, fenugreek, etc.)
Assiduous food combining - even after six years, it took my 3 weeks at Hippocrates and many hours with the chef to fully understand correct food combining for raw foodists.
No drinking water with meals.
Garlic pressed onto salads
Prepared raw food "gourmet" as condiments to the salad/meal.
Veggies galore. Add as much as you want. Be creative. This is what'll keep you interested!
There's more that can be eaten, for sure, but I wanted to give you the basicsNow, for the things to avoid:
No fruit. None at all.
No tomatoes. Use red bell peppers instead.
No carrots, no beets -- too high in sugar
No vinegar, not even apple cider vinegar
No sugars, including agave (which isn't really raw, duh) but you can use steviaWe can discuss the details of the food. The important thing to remember, other than that this is a healing-from-disease diet, is that cancer will not be cured by diet alone. Nope. Not even this one. So, here are the other things. Again, briefly. That way, I figure we can start our "talk" based on this stuff, yes?
Exercise - this is crucial and I'd almost say it's as important as diet. Walking AND weight-bearing. I've pulled out the hand weights and am on a strict 3# this week, 5# next, 7# the next, then 10# routine. Exercise releases the body's natural antioxidants, enzymes, and oxygen so that it will be ultra-healthy and healing. I have also started qi gong. This is not only also very healing but it gets the lymph system working. That is crucial. I'm also picking up a rebounder from craigslist which is very important also for the lymph.
Lymphatic drainage - the lymph needs to be moving and getting rid of the toxins. Dry skin brushing daily -- I do this how I was taught at HHI and I don't need a brush or anything. Also, there's a way to manually drain your lymph nodes. Rebounding. And, a simple qi gong exercise that consists of simply swinging your arms forward and back loosely up to shoulder height - like a metronome - 100 times daily.
Killing the cancer cells* - far infrared sauna. This was a crucial therapy at HHI. In my consultations with Brian since, he's adament that I do whatever it takes to get in one at least 20 minutes 3 times/week. I found a spa that will give me unlimited access for $57 a month. Home Depot also has one for $999. It's a wicked crazy good deal.
Sunshine - Have to be in the sun every single day for as long as possible. No sunscreen.
Outdoor air -- avoid indoor air as much as possible. Cross-ventilate. Dead cells and yucky stuff is inside. Breathe deeply, walk around the backyard if necessary.
Gratitude - keep a gratitude journal. Be truly grateful for everything possible. If necessary, start small such as being grateful for having two legs that work! Amazing things happen from this.
Support - loving, unconditional support that will be there and listen no matter what. This can be in person, online, phone, books, etc.
Uplifting & Healing Environment - stop reading newspapers, watching the news, watching crime shows, reading disturbing books, etc. Listen to ambient, meditative or classical music. Also, any music that makes you happy. Watch comedies. Read comedies. Laugh as much as possible. Turn every day events into reasons to giggle. Limit time with pessimistic people. Be around or watch babies and children (should be easy for you!). Cultivate a spiritual life.
Meditate/pray - trust
Give - Be there for others. Whether that's praying for them, doing for them, talking to them, always look for an opportunity to give, give, give.
*Other stuff -- all of this is important, too, to fight the cancer cells and nourish the healthy cells:
Ginger, Pau d-arco tea, Goldenseal extract, oil of oregano, liquid potassium, digestive & systemic enzymes, blue/green algae, B12, cell food, other supplements
Eliminate all body, skin, hair products with chemical, especially PABAs, petroleum products, ethylene, and others that I can give you a list of. This includes your hand soap. No anti-bacterial soaps or gels. Avoid cell phone usage as much as possible. All-cotton clothes, especially underwear.
Oh, the MOST important -- immediately get Dr. Lorraine Day's Cancer Doesn't Scare Me Anymore and her other one. In case you don't know, she was healed of breast cancer that had metastisized to her lymph and chest muscles WITHOUT surgery, chemo, or radiation. An M.D., ER-room supervisor and med school professor. Amazing story. She has a 10-step program for others to do the same. I'm combining HHI, hers, and a few elements of Gerson (but not much).
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Has anyone been told which supplements should be combined with others?
I take many of the supplements some of you are taking so I would like to ask how do you combine your supplements with your food?For example, I take Bentonite, which has to be taken at least 2 hours before or after meals or supplements.
I also take IP6 & Inositol, which has to be taken 45 minutes before or after meals or supplements.
I take Alpha Lipoic Acid, which should be taken 20 minutes before of after meals or other supplements but taking Vitiman E with this is ok along with the Maitake.
I also take Black Cumin gel caps and have been told not to take them with Curcumin so I take it an hour or so before or after taking Curcumin.I am planning to make a spread sheet to keep up with it. Lol
I take Pharma Grade Omega 3 and Pharma Grade liquid CoQ10 (which I love).
Progesterone cream (was told I will use it for the rest of my life).My list (subject to change) consists of:
IP6
Bentonite
Progesterone Cream
Alpha Lipoic acid
Vit D drops
E Complex Mixed Tocopherols
I3C
Black Cumin Oil
Multi Vitamin
Curcumin
Genistein
Pharma Omega 3
Pharma CoQ10
Maitake
Changed my diet to raw organic everything, lots of juicing, no read meat, very little chicken or fish because I am blood type A+. Exercise and walk. No white flour, sugar and only use sea salt, sparingly along with eating raw organic nuts. Dumped all perfumes, lotions and cosmetics that are not organic and chemical free. If I cant eat it, I don't put it on my skin.Here are a couple of links that might be helpul.
http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/splash.php?URI=/index.php
https://anitagrant.com/index.php
Loving the changes I made!
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Hi Carole, sounds like you are on a great protocol. You know much more about combining supplements that I do. I have been trying to find this out as well. Do you mind me asking what the reason is that you don't eat much fish or chicken because of your blood type?
Deni
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I just heard the most amazing news about my friend who was diagnosed 2 1/2 years ago.
She had a lumpectomy, but no chemo or rads.
Instead she cashed out her 401(k) went to the Hippocrates Institute to learn a new way of life, a crazy sexy cancer-free life. She threw away all her pots and pans and learned to adopt a macrobiotic diet and new lifestyle.
She lost 80 lbs.
She was just diagnosed with a recurrence. 3 tumors in the same breast.
Results of scans for metastasis are pending.
Results of the thousands of dollars spent at Hippocrates: zero.
There is no magic cure. If you want to beat cancer, you do it with conventional methods. Running away from this truth will probably cost her her life. It was so unnecessary.
Make your own choices, but do it informed, not deluded.
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Twa, I'm sorry to hear about your friend. What stage was her cancer? Was it found to be ER+/PR+? Why don't you invite her to BC.org so she can get much-needed support?
Unfortunately, recurrences and metastases can happen with both conventional and alternative treatment. I agree 100% with your advice to "Make your own choices, but do it informed, not deluded." I believe that's what most of us are doing.
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Twa, your post is annoying. I have yet to meet one woman with a BC dx who is deluded especially on this forum. If hearing the words "you have Cancer" or anything similar doesn't jolt a person into hyper reality I don't know what will. Your poor friend to have a friend like you in the midst of such tragic circumstances.
Hopefully you are compassionate and respectful enough to limit your opinion to discussion boards rather than subject your friend to it.
Carole.
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Twa:
I am terribly sorry to hear about your friend. I know how bad it must be to find herself in this situation after spending so much money on one particular program.
Unfortunately, I have to go with Julia: This huge forum (and others) is living proof that recurrences and metastases can and do happen with both conventional and alternative treatments.
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I have been hesitant to post mine, because some of it is so very different from most here, but then I realized that sharing all ends of the spectrum is probably a good thing.
Cynical to the core, I tend approach everything with mistrust - that includes conventional medicine, most diet recommendations and even the alternative stuff.
For conventional treatment, I am try to avoid overtreating or undertreating. (Tough to do because most docs want an aggressive approach right out of the gate. The surgeon said mx - but I just wanted the cancer out - and my healthy tissue left alone. Because of my nodes, I was afraid to reject chemo all together, but I did fight the onc to get chemo without steriods. I've mentioned in other posts that I'm doing rads, but again, only to sites where they found the cancer - no preventative areas.)
My lifestyle choices are longstanding and have not changed - We've been trying to eliminate as much petrochemical "stuff' as we could since 1994 - the more intimate the product, and the more we spend exposed to it, the more priority we give to making sure it's non-toxic, natural, and time tested as safe.
We try to spend as much time in the country as possible, and have been adjusting our careers over the years to this end. Now we own our land and try to grow as much of our own food as we can - this means most dietary "advice" is contrary to our reality - I'll explain:
People in industrial societies have amazing access and abundance when it comes to food. Virtually no time or place in history have other humans experienced this. Food was seasonal and local - so there were times of shortage and times of glut. They ate what was available because the only other choice was to starve.
Current dietary advisors seem to forget those facts. The food pyramid, for example, takes for granted that all foodstuff will be available everywhere, all the year round, for us to pick and choose a complete balance on a daily basis. Yet that is not the way humans ate - and that is not the diet to which are bodies adapted.
Living close to the land has me thinking that there is something very wrong with the concepts they are promoting. I have no proof whatsoever, but I'm betting my life that it is wrong to expect to eat x number of fruit and vegetable servings in the dead of winter. I know some items will keep in long term storage, but I also know the quality suffers when food is not fresh.
I can accept the fact that there are times when meat and dairy might be the mainstays of my diet, and times when most of it will come from the garden.
I believe the body adapted over time to thrive on what was available, so the idea that the food my ancestors ate, from a climate most like theirs, strikes me as likely the best for me. I reject the idea of a one size fits all nutritional model.
We grow our food organically, and if we need to add missing nutrients, we try to put it directly into the soil, so the plants that grow on that soil will convert those nutrients to be easily absorbed by humans and animals.
Being outdoors and growing our food means we get lots of fresh air and exercise. I always loved the advice of Dr. Weil who said, "If I had to limit my advice on healthier living to just one tip, it would be simply to learn how to breathe correctly." I have a tape of his that reminds us how our blue, carbon dioxide saturated blood cells travel to the lungs, and leave freshened and red, to carry oxygen and nutrients to every cell in our bodies. Such an important process we rarely think about. I tend to be a shallow breather, so concentrating on good breathing and getting lots of fresh air is very important to me.
I prefer to get most of my vits, minerals, or herbs directly from food or real sources. Since BC dx, I have been flirting with various supplements for the first time in my life. I fear the supplements will create an imbalance, so for now I have settled on a good quality multi.
I take D3 upon recommendation of Doc - because I tested low. I'm also taking an antioxidant blend and milk thistle to help me through chemo and rads - but I plan to quit both of these when tx is finished.
I know that despite all I am doing, I can't get away from chemicals and toxins, but I do as much as I can to lessen my exposure. I guess that's number one point of my "protocol".
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Why would your friend throw away her pots and pans to go on a macrobiotic diet?
Recurrences are just as common using alternatives as they are using conventional treatment. There is no guarantee in any of this for any of us. Sorry to hear about your friend, but if you are a true friend, you will support her, not degrade her. She may have had a recurrence, but this doesn't mean that this will cost her her life.
Why are you on this site? Do you have cancer?
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Hi Deni,
When I was first Dx the first question my NatDoc asked was "What is your blood type?" When I told him I was A+ he said something like "Yes, that is why". I was so intent on listening to him that I did not ask about the "why" When I got home I looked up cancer and blood type and came across the book "Eat Right For Your Type" by Dr. Peter J. D'Adamo. I went on Ebay and found the book for $1.00 and a few $'s shipping so I bought it. He makes some very good points but some of the foods I love like cashews, shrimp, lobster and crab are no no's for me.
Is anyone else using this diet or parts of it?
Here is a link to his site: http://www.dadamo.com/
Warm regards,
Carole
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Twa ~ Unfortunately, recurrences happen to women who use every modality of traditional treatment as well, as this current thread testifies:
http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/106/topic/741265?page=1#post_1597986
If the link doesn't open it, it's entitled, Anyone on AIs when recurrence happened?
Deanna
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Twa said, "Make your own choices, but do it informed, not deluded."
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And how deluded are you, to think this was a good place to post that particular opinion?
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This article is about investing, but it seems applicable here.
The "do it the conventional way" folks don't seem to realize that they too have biases. Heres a snip:
"How to Ignore the Yes Man in Your Head
A mind is a terrible thing to change.
You decide gold is a good bet to hedge against inflation, and suddenly the news seems to be teeming with signs of a falling dollar and rising prices down the road. Or you believe stocks are going to outperform other assets, and all you can hear are warnings of the bloodbath to come in the bond and commodity markets.
A recent study shows people are twice as likely to seek information that confirms their beliefs than they are to consider evidence that contradicts thems. WSJ Intelligent Investor columnist Jason Zweig tells Kelsey Hubbard how this "confirmation bias" can influence their financial decisions.
In short, your own mind acts like a compulsive yes-man who echoes whatever you want to believe. Psychologists call this mental gremlin the "confirmation bias." A recent analysis of psychological studies with nearly 8,000 participants concluded that people are twice as likely to seek information that confirms what they already believe as they are to consider evidence that would challenge those beliefs.
Why is a mind-made-up so hard to penetrate?..."
Read more here:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703811604574533680037778184.html
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That is a very interesting article, Pill. It makes perfect sense. I think this carries over in every aspect of our lives.
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Confirmation bias. Thank you for that article/concerpt, Pill.
When my jogger-vegetarian friend was diagnosed, she did everything the oncs told her. She was the perfect patient, had a mast, did chemo and took hormone blockers. Even when she recurred WHILE TAKING CHEMO, she kept taking it. After all, she was at a major cancer center so she thought they knew what they were doing. She died a terrible death within two years of dx.
twa--I've looked at all your posts to this group and they are all mean-spirited or telling us we're delusional. Does it make you feel better coming over here to insult us? Will it bring back your friend? Will it bring back my friend?
Do you insult us because you're afraid we're right?
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Pill, I'm glad you posted your approach -- I don't see why you hesitated! I agree with you about a lot of that (I've been thinking of posting something here about what organic gardening has taught me about both infertilty and cancer).
Living close to the land has me thinking that there is something very wrong with the concepts they are promoting. I have no proof whatsoever, but I'm betting my life that it is wrong to expect to eat x number of fruit and vegetable servings in the dead of winter. I know some items will keep in long term storage, but I also know the quality suffers when food is not fresh.
I can accept the fact that there are times when meat and dairy might be the mainstays of my diet, and times when most of it will come from the garden.
I agree with this... and related to that, I was thinking just today that our bodies must need less vitamin D during the winter when days are short (of course, that doesn't apply to us if we have imbalances from years of living toxic lifestyles).
I'm with you on the supplements, even though I'm taking quite a few for now in hopes of bringing my body back into a natural, healthy balance. I'd rather eat kelp than take iodine supplements (even though, for now, I'm doing both, for that and any other nutrients my body is deficient in). My goal with supplements is to use them temporarily to correct a deficiency. Long-term, I don't plan to be on any vitamins or other supplements unless there's a very specific reason... instead, I want to eat paleolithically... the way my ancestors did... as naturally as possible.
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Twa, I am very sorry to hear about your friend, but the way your story comes across, it almost sounds like you are gloating. I know that can't be right, her being a friend and all, but the way you come across...."I just heard the most amazing news about my friend.."
There is no way to know what the results of conventional treatment would have been for her. As well, as the recurrance is local, it may be curable through surgery. We have to hope for the best. Its wise to think critically about treatment, alternative and conventional, but you can't presume to know too much. Each person responds individually.
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Pill: I read your post and link with great interest. Thank you for the information.
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I see the word "amazing" lost its irony in translation to text. In fact it was not amazing news, it was expected.
Sorry Eff, but anyone who leaves positive nodes in their body to instead seek lymph purge treatments is deluded. They are looking for easy magical cures. The kind that are promised by Hippocrates and other charlatans.
Sorry if it sounds like gloating Timothy. I would say the emotion is more validation. Validation that the only chance anyone has of beating cancer is via conventional treatment.
There is not "a chance" of recurrence if one seeks only/primarily alternative "treatment." It is a guarantee. However, since these people tend to stay off the grid where stats are tallied, it is not possible to point to documented proof. But it will happen.
Sure, I hope she still has the chance to beat this. But I doubt it. As I said, she had positive nodes 2 1/2 years ago, the news was based on biopsy results, she has yet to receive scan results.
Y'all can continue to pretend your woo woo treatments are doing something. But the truth is, they don't. As a friend, last time, I supported her decision to seek alternatives. This time, she may no longer have the chance to win. If not, then I'll let her be. But if the cancer has not metastacised (little chance of that), then I will be a true friend and TELL HER THE TRUTH, not validate what she wants to hear.
You have to fight for your life with cancer. Eating yucky food isn't really fighting.
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