Focal Atypical Duct Hyperplasia

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  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited July 2009

    There is controversy on how to handle ADH (as well as other pre-malignant states like LCIS and ALH.)  I have LCIS and ALH and ductal hyperplasia (not atypical ductal hyperplasia).

    The NCI opines that the  breast cancer risk for  women diagnosed with ADH is bilateral (as it is with LCIS). http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/understanding-breast-changes/allpages#F7

    Many times it is very hard to estimate the area of ADH, LCIS, or ALH on imaging. If you were going to sample the entire breast, you'd have to have a mastectomy. Several sources say that it is common to have multifocal (in other words multiple spots) of ADH, LCIS, or ALH.

    But it doesn't really matter, because  they can't detect for sure where all the ADH/LCIS/ALH is in order to excise it. The only sure way of diagnosing ADH is by looking at the tissue under the microscope, and the tissue has to be removed for that.

    Some people feel the need to get their slides reread with ADH because it can be difficult to tell the difference between ADH and DCIS, and they are treated differently.

  • SelenaRG
    SelenaRG Member Posts: 18
    edited July 2009

    Thank you leaf.

    Can you clarify for me what ALH and LCIS means? I am new to all of this and it is just overwhelming at times, And if I wanted to have my slides reread, do they have to be done at the same hospital where my surgeries were performed or can I have it dones somewhere else? I have just not been pleased with the results that I have been getting from this hospital/radiologist and am not certain I can trust the pathologist since the result on the last surgery was not labeled correctly. Am I just being paranoid or should I be concerned about all of this?  Thanks for your help and suggestions.

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited July 2009

    ALH means atypical lobular hyperplasia.  Its like ADH, except in happens in the lobules, not the ducts.  LCIS means lobular carcinoma in situ, which, in spite of the name, most people think is NOT cancer, but puts you at higher risk for breast cancer.

    This diagram shows what a cross section of the duct looks like with DCIS and ADH. http://www.breastcancer.org/pictures/types/dcis/dcis_range.jsp

     ALH is like ADH, except it happens in the lobules. With LCIS, the entire lobule cross section  is filled with these abnormal cells. Some have called it like a 'bag of marbles'.  http://www.breastcancer.org/pictures/types/dcis/lcis.jsp

    The population of women with LCIS have about twice the risk of breast cancer as women with ALH or ADH.  Still, the American Cancer Society opines that even LCIS women have a moderate risk of breast cancer.

    Most people get slide re-reads at a major institution, such as a nearby university hospital, or prominent places like M.D. Anderson in Texas, or Sloan Kettering in NY, or the Mayo clinic.  Changes for transporting the slides are added, so many people choose to have their slides reread at a place that is near to where their biopsy was done. Many insurances will pay for a re-read, but it is good to check into the costs and make sure your insurance covers it beforehand.    For me, I paid out of pocket, then was reimbursed by my insurance company.  For me, in 2007, it cost about $500/biopsy out of pocket reread from one procedure, and insurance paid about $350/biopsy. (The major institution accepted the $350/biopsy from the insurance company as full payment.)

    Of course, slide re-reading assumes that your slides were identified correctly as coming from you.  I think it is extremely uncommon to have someone identify the sample as coming from the wrong patient, though of course this is possible.  

  • SelenaRG
    SelenaRG Member Posts: 18
    edited July 2009

    Thank you leaf for clarifying the differences. As I said this is all new to me and so is the terminology.

    I live in North Carolina and if you know of any good institutions here for rereading the slides it would be appreciated. It is not that I question whether the slides are mine...I am questioning the competentcy of the radiologist that read them. There have been alot of mistakes made at this hospital and I just want to be certain that my dx is the correct one.

    Thanks again and good luck to you as well. 

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited July 2009

    I have no personal experience, but some veteran women here who were high risk were happy with their care at Duke/Chapel Hill.  Apparently they have a high risk breast cancer program. 

    It sounds like this webpage may be a place to start if you want to pursue Duke. http://www.dukehealth.org/PatientsAndVisitors

  • SelenaRG
    SelenaRG Member Posts: 18
    edited July 2009

    Thanks so much. I  will look at the site. I was treated at Duke for about 10 years for a staph infection that colonized in my lungs after pneumonia and was pleased with their infectious disease staff. I did not realize they had a high risk breast cancer program. Thanks again.

  • KarenT17
    KarenT17 Member Posts: 46
    edited July 2009

    Hey Leaf,

    I am in the process of filling out paperwork to be a part of Sloan Kettering's high risk program in NYC.  They don't take my insurance so I don't know if I will be accepted.  Do you know of any other programs in New York for high risk?  My second surgery showed a benign papilloma with ADH, so I have it on both sides.  I'm going back to my oncologist to discuss what he thinks I should do and if there have been any recents findings on medications other than Tamoxifen.  Any suggestions for me on where I could take part in any studies or programs?  I would even participate in a nearby state if that was possible, let me know if you have any suggestions for me.

    KarenT17 Long Island, New York

  • LISAMG
    LISAMG Member Posts: 639
    edited July 2009

    Karen,

     NYU Cancer Center has wonderful high risk medical oncologists & breast surgeons with a very personal approach for surveillance. For more info., see the link below.

    http://ci.med.nyu.edu/community-outreach-and-education/programs/lynne-cohen-high-risk-womens-clinic/about

  • KarenT17
    KarenT17 Member Posts: 46
    edited August 2009

    LISAMG,

    Thanks for the info.  I e-mailed them and they responded quickly.  I'm trying to find out if they accept my insurance and what options I have if they don't.  I will let you know what happens as I am interested in getting as many qualifed opinions and information as possible.  I want to do whats best for me and my diagnosis.  Again, thanks for the referral and for this site!  Keep you posted...

    KarenT17

  • ghet
    ghet Member Posts: 2
    edited September 2009

    hello... I can relate to what you are feeling right now.. Because resently I am also diagnosed with this diasnosis. Focal atypical apocrine adenosis and hyperplasia.. Can I ask is this the same with your diagnosis? My oncologist told me not to worry and have a breast ultrasounnd after 9 months.. 9 months have passed and I'm having my ultrasound this coming friday.. I am really worried because I can feel another lump on my left breast. This really bothers me.

  • Sunris
    Sunris Member Posts: 120
    edited September 2009

    Just received my pathology report from lumpectomy (8-25-09) and it states :

     No residual carcinoma is identified!!  (YIPPEE!!!)

     Fibrosis & mild chronic inflammation

    Columnar cell change and microcysts seen

     Focal Atypical ductal hyperplasia

    The above statements all seem to be the only ones that weren't conclusive /self explanatory to me.

    Can any of you help me to understand this pathology?  

    I googled ADH and am wondering if they are saying it was in the tissue that was excised or if it is also STILL  in my breast??  If so, would this put me at really big risk of it developing to cancer since I already have breast cancer? Which by the way was Triple Negative BC.

  • Sunris
    Sunris Member Posts: 120
    edited September 2009
  • LISAMG
    LISAMG Member Posts: 639
    edited September 2009

    Sunris,

    Since you already have triple negative bc, having ADH now puts you at a higher risk for another bc. There is much recent research to support this simply by the fact TN cancers are always aggressive and usually high grade.  Were you treated with a lumpectomy or mastectomy? Is the ADH in the same breast or opposite? What does your oncologist recommend? Do you have a family history of BC? If so, you may wish to consider genetic testing to see if you carry the BRCA gene that could help you with decisions about further treatments.

    Best wishes to you and seek opinions. You must advocate for yourself and find a doctor you trust.

    Lisa

  • KarenT17
    KarenT17 Member Posts: 46
    edited September 2009

    Sunris,

    I can only speak from my experience.  In my mamogram they found micro calcifications and weren't sure what could be lurking.  They tried to do a biopsy but couldn't get to the area with a needle so I had to have surgery.  They removed the area and found that I had ADH.  I was recommended to take Tamoxifen but I have opted at the present time not to take it.  Then as a precaution, I had an MRI on both breasts to see what else could be there.  Well they found another area on my left side.  I had a biopsy which was way worse than surgery.  Then I had it removed which turned out also to be ADH.  I then went to a Genetic Counselor and took the BRACA test.  I was negative.  Since this diagnosis, I have done what I can to try to limit anything else from happening.  I stopped drinking caffeine, stopped diet sodas (rarely), buy organic when possible, reduced cold cuts such as ham and turkey which have additives/hormones that we shouldn't have, take Vitamin D3, eat mushrooms which has a substance known to reduce breast cancer and I've always exercised an hour a day EVERYDAY without fail.  If they said thet eating 20 apples a day would help I would do that too!  My genetic counselor said to eat organic, I eat alot of chicken which is said to be pumped with hormones so you need to read food labels.  I would say definatley go to a Genetic Counselor and get the test.  I was extremely lucky in that my insurance paid for the entire cost which was over $3,000!!  I am happy to say I don't have the gene not only for myself but my daughter as well.  I dread another mamogram or MRI as I don't know how much more surgeries and biopsies I can endure.  I wish you the best of luck but you should be asking your oncologist to explain them in full detail and then get a name of a genetic counselor.  My counselor didn't like the idea of TX but in the end I spoke with several oncologists and made my own decision.  I don't know what my future holds but I pray to god that I don't have to visit a surgeons office anytime soon.  Good luck to you.

    Karen in Commack, NY

  • Sunris
    Sunris Member Posts: 120
    edited September 2009

    I had the BRCA test months ago after first being dx @ MDAnderson.  I am BRCA Negative!!  

    The ADH was discovered on pathology after LUMPECTOMY 8-25-09.   One of my questions is this...does that mean that even after the chemo there are ADH cells showing up ???  Is there ADH only in the excised tissue or could it possibly be elsewhere in my breast also? 

  • NonniO
    NonniO Member Posts: 31
    edited October 2009

    When I had a left breast mastectomy last January the pathology report said that I also had atypical ductal hyperplasia, atypical columnar cell change & fibroadenoma.  My doctors never said a word about this being a risk factor for the other breast. If this condition is present in one breast would it follow that it's also present in the other one?  I'm on a schedule of an MRI and mammogram every 6 months.  I thought it would be alternating but I have both exams coming up in December.  I'm seriously considering surgery to remove the right breast as well because I don't want to ever go through chemo & radiation again, but when I talk to my surgeon about this fear, he just dismisses it saying that I could still get breast cancer at the surgery site so it wouldn't be 100% effective.  Now I'll definitely ask my oncologist to explain the pathology results to me since I guess they weren't so clear about the first time! 

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited October 2009

    I had 2 prior breast biopsies 3 years ago, both with Atypical ductal hyperplasia.  They referred me to an oncologist and I made the decision to just be vigilant with my breast exams and mammo's and not take the tamoxifen.  I wish I did not do that now.  I had mammo every 6 months then 6 months later an mri for 3 years.  2 years later (so 5 in total from the 2 biopsies) I was diagnosed with Stage 2 breast cancer.  Do your research and do what you feel is right for you.  I was told when I was diagnosed with the hyperplasia that most women's chances are 1-8, mine was then 1-4.  I just had a double mx. (prophalictic) on my left side and it had atypical hyperplasia in there, I am glad I made the difficult decision to remove both.  Again good luck and prayers for you!

    Alicia

  • mawhinney
    mawhinney Member Posts: 1,377
    edited October 2009

    My surgical oncologist said to think about atypical ductual hyperplasia as a step before cancer. If you have been diagnoses with ADH, pleae be vigilant with follow-up testing and procdures.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2009

    Nonni---- the possibility of having ADH in the other breast is certainly there, but the bilateral risk is greater when the disease is lobular (ALH or LCIS). I was diagnosed 6 years ago with LCIS and I also have family history (mom had ILC), so I do high risk surveillance of mammos alternating with MRIs every 6 months, I took tamoxifen for 5 years and now take Evista for further preventative measures. I also have breast exams on the opposite 6 month schedule, so I'm essentially seen by some method every 3 months.

    Anne

  • KarenT17
    KarenT17 Member Posts: 46
    edited October 2009

    To answer your question, yes you can have ADH in both breasts - I do.  I've had two surgeries one on each breast and they found that it is present in both.  I have cystic breasts and they wanted to take out an area in each to be sure it wasn't cancer.  I was offered Tamaxofin but I am not going to take it at this time. I am going for a mamogram since my last surgery in a few weeks.  I am already sick to my stomach.  I don't have a history of breast cancer in my family (only my father's mother who was diagnosed in her 70's) and I took the BRCA test.  I tested negative.  I was considering before the second surgery to have both breasts removed but I was told I was jumping the gun.  I will also closely monitor myself with Mamograms, sonograms and whatever else they tell me to do in the meantime.  I am hopeful but not I'm not sticking my head in the sand either.  I want to keep my breasts for as long as I can but I certainly won't put my life in jeopardy over it so I have prepared myself for what may come. 

  • LISAMG
    LISAMG Member Posts: 639
    edited October 2009

    ADH, especially when its Multi- Focal, is very high risk. I echo what Just meAlicia said and her experiences can definitely help others here. Mayo Clinic did a huge study with women having multi-focal ADH, putting risks beyond 50% for getting invasive BC. Interestingly, family  history did not play a significant role.

  • LBBoston
    LBBoston Member Posts: 3
    edited October 2009

    Karen  my wife had a MRI and biopsy (benign) but had ADH  She has family history - mother (51) and older sister (60+) died of BC  She is 57   The standard of care proposed is lumpectomy (ing pong size) ---  Dr said ADH has 5%  risk that there may be somethingin surrounding tissue  and that is reason for this approach ---- I am on this and several other boards --- let'sstay in touch and trade notes - I will hook you up with my wife

     Larry - MA

  • LBBoston
    LBBoston Member Posts: 3
    edited October 2009

    What is difference between atypical ductal hyperplasia (which my wife has) and this multil focal ADH?

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited October 2009

    I had no family history.  And the healthy breast that I removed, also had atypia, apocrine metaplasia and ductal hyperplasia.  All considered benign conditions --------  but this is how the cancereous breast started out a few years ago.  I am so glad I opted for both.  It is not a decision to be made lightly at all.  Just know your risks and options to make the best decision for you. 

    Hugs ~

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited October 2009

    LBBoston - Multifocal ADH is ADH in multiple spots.

    This abstract opines multifocal ADH means it may be more likely to have DCIS at excision.

    "DCIS is more likely if microcalcifications are mammographically extensive or if atypia is multifocal or is associated with borderline cytologic features."http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12591968

    Your experience may vary.

  • LISAMG
    LISAMG Member Posts: 639
    edited October 2009

    Stratification of Breast Cancer Risk in Women With Atypia: A Mayo Cohort Study:

    http://jco.ascopubs.org/cgi/content/full/25/19/2671

    DISCUSSION :

    Having reliable breast cancer risk estimates for women withatypical hyperplasia is imperative in order to tailor theircare appropriately. For women with atypia, the Gail model isthe only model available for risk prediction.8 In this model,calculations of risk for women with atypia and a family historyare dramatically higher, based on prior evidence from the Nashvillestudy.2 Therefore, for a 50-year-old white woman with menarcheat age 12, first birth at 24, and atypia on breast biopsy, thepredicted lifetime risk of breast cancer is 17.5%. If that samewoman also has a first-degree relative with breast cancer, herlifetime risk doubles to 34%. Our data indicate that the Gailmodel predicts inaccurately for such women because the increasedrisk of breast cancer associated with atypia is independentof the effect of family history.

    Women in our cohort with atypia and a positive family historyof breast cancer had no additional increased risk of breastcancer over that of atypia alone. This finding counters thecommonly held view proposed by the Nashville study (ie, thatatypia and a positive family history increase breast cancerrisk additively). When data from other major studies of benignbreast disease are considered along with the Mayo findings,the preponderance of evidence calls into question the resultfrom the Nashville group. In that study, the subgroup of womenwith atypia and a family history was small (n = 39) with anRR of 8.9 (95% CI, 4.8 to 17), compared with 3.5 (95% CI, 2.3to 5.5) in 193 women with atypia and no family history.2 Incontrast, evaluation of a much larger population in the BreastCancer Detection and Demonstration Project showed similar frequenciesof breast cancer in women with atypia and family history (16of 261, 6.1%) compared with those with atypia alone (51 of 1,044,4.9%).4 Recent data from the Nurses' Health Study confirm ourfinding that a family history of breast cancer in a first-degreerelative does not further increase risk among women with atypicalhyperplasia.15 To explain these findings, we postulate thatatypical hyperplasia is a phenotype reflecting increased risk;this phenotype derives from both inherited risk and lifetimeexposures. Thus, the histologic presence of atypia already reflectsthe increased breast cancer risk inherent in a positive familyhistory.

    We have identified a new histologic variable that appears tostratify risk in women with atypia: multifocality. The RR ofbreast cancer increases in a dose-response fashion for womenwith one, two, and three or more foci of atypia, with a statisticallysignificant test for trend. With a single focus, the cumulativeincidence of breast cancer reached 18% at 25 years. For womenwith two or more foci of atypia, the cumulative risk of breastcancer was greater than 40% at 25 years. Moreover, in the highestrisk subgroup of women with three or more foci and histologiccalcifications, the cumulative incidence exceeded 50% over 25years. This level of risk approaches that reported for carriersof BRCA mutations.16 In line with our observation, differentialrisk based on extent of disease has been established for lobularneoplasia (ie, ALH v lobular carcinoma),17 and the number offoci of atypia found in core needle biopsy specimens correlateswith the likelihood of finding cancer at surgical excision.18

    Some may question whether multifocal atypias may actually representsubtle in situ carcinoma, particularly those of the ADH type.In cases of multifocal ADH, it should be emphasized that individualfoci arose in separate and distinct terminal duct lobular units,none of which measured more than 2 mm. Hence, these examplesfailed to exhibit the confluent degree of cellular proliferationrequisite for a diagnosis of DCIS. We submit that more widespreaddistribution of atypical foci within breast tissue signals alarger burden of at-risk tissue that has progressed along thecontinuum toward breast cancer. The data presented in this articleprovide evidence that the extent of premalignant breast changeis related to subsequent cancer risk. Since this is the firstreport of the clinical relevance of this histologic finding,we recognize the need for validation and plan to evaluate thisfactor in a more recent cohort from our institution. Furthermore,we hope that other research groups with large numbers of patientswith atypical hyperplasia will also examine the relevance ofmultifocal atypia in their study sets.

    Age at the diagnosis of atypia also emerged as a significantmodifier of subsequent breast cancer risk, with a higher RRin younger women. The Nurses Health Study6 and the Breast CancerDetection and Demonstration Project4 have also shown higherrisk in younger women with atypia. In our cohort, this increasedrisk in younger women is not explained by more frequent multifocaldisease or a positive family history. Perhaps atypical hyperplasiapresent at a young age is the result of previous oncogenic events;alternatively, breast tissue with atypia may be unusually susceptibleto proposed oncogenic estrogen metabolites associated with thepremenopausal hormonal environment.19

    When counseling women with atypical hyperplasia, the lengthof time at risk is a key element in planning risk-reductionstrategies. Dupont and Page9 reported that the greatest riskof breast cancer after a diagnosis of atypia lies in the first10 years, with subsequent RR reduced by half (P = .06). By contrast,the Nurses Health Study10 found that risk does not decreaseover time, with RR slightly higher more than 10 years afterbiopsy (RR, 3.6) compared with the first 10 years (RR, 3.2).Our data confirm that the RR for breast cancer after a biopsydemonstrating atypia remains significantly elevated for at least15 years.

    Data on long-term absolute risk are more useful than RR estimateswhen counseling patients. Our study provides estimates of absoluterisk for women with atypia and indicates a higher cumulativeincidence of breast cancer with long-term follow-up than hasbeen reported by other studies. Figures from the study of Dupontand Page show a cumulative breast cancer incidence of 13% at20 years and 23% at 25 years in women with atypia.9 The cumulativeincidences identified in our cohort were higher: 21% at 20 yearsand 29% at 25 years. One factor contributing to this differenceis our inclusion of DCIS as a recordable breast cancer event,whereas the Nashville study counted only cases of invasive breastcancer.2 Because DCIS currently receives local treatment (andin some cases, systemic treatment) similar to that for early-stageinvasive breast cancer, it is reasonable to include cases ofDCIS when estimating risk.

    Our data on the laterality of subsequent breast cancer do notallow conclusions regarding atypical hyperplasia acting as aprecursor lesion, yet there is a suggestion of predilectionfor the ipsilateral breast that requires ongoing study. Breastcancers occurring in the first 10 years after atypia diagnosiswere significantly more likely to occur in the ipsilateral breast.A recent study of gene expression profiling identified remarkablysimilar alterations in gene expression among ADH, DCIS, andinvasive cancers found in the same specimen, supporting therole of atypical hyperplasia as a precursor lesion.20Regardingdifferences in ipsilateral risk for ductal versus lobular atypia,we found that risk was equal for both breasts after a diagnosisof ALH, which is consistent with the distribution of invasivebreast cancers after a diagnosis of lobular carcinoma in situ.21In contrast, ADH was more likely associated with a later ipsilateralbreast cancer, as has been shown for DCIS untreated after diagnosticbiopsy.22

    In conclusion, our study provides a comprehensive analysis ofbreast cancer risk associated with atypical hyperplasia. Thesefindings confirm a four-fold RR of subsequent breast cancerin women with atypical hyperplasia. We estimate that the long-termabsolute risk of subsequent breast cancer (in situ or invasive)is higher than previously reported-at least 25% at 25years, and as high as 50% to 60% in a high-risk subgroup definedby multifocality and calcifications. A positive family historydoes not confer significantly increased risk in women with atypia.Improved risk prediction and stratification is now possibleto guide risk-reduction counseling for women with atypical hyperplasia.

  • KarenT17
    KarenT17 Member Posts: 46
    edited October 2009

    Hi,

    Just yesterday I went to my oncologist to discuss where I should go from here.  I told him that I'm doing everything that I possibly can to stay healthy: exercise an hour every day religiously, eat well, taking Vitamin D3 1,200 mg, non-smoker/drinker, no caffeine.  When I saw him after my first surgery he gave me a perscription for Tamoxifen.  I filled it and put in in the back of the cabinet.  I decided after all the negative feedback I've been given not to take it.  Now 8 months later I knew he would ask me why I haven't taken it.  Well I told him, I'm scared, I'm afraid of what will do to my body.  He's reply simply, try it and see what happens.  You can always stop but why not at least give it a try.  So I walked out of his office with another perscription for Tx.  Will I take it, maybe.  What can I say, I am afraid but what if 10 years down (or sooner) I get something else.  Will I be kicking myself that I didn't at the very least try it?  Am I being irrational by not even giving it a week, a month?  What can I say, I know he means well and he only wants the best for me but what is best for me?  

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited October 2009

    Karen...  I can not tell you what to do.  As I myself know it is a difficult decision.  Taking something to treat something YOU do NOT have "yet"...  (keyword)  I had ADH on 2 biopsies.  I was also referred to the oncologist who gave me the script for tamoxifen.  I did NOT take it.  I took my vitamins, drank green tea, exercised regularly, drank NO alcohol whatsoever... and here I am 3 years later just recovering from a bl max.  Do your research, ask questions ~ and try to make the best decision for you.  Be proactive.  KNOW your breasts and be vigiliant with your self exams.  I found my lump myself.  Wishing you luck and sending you prayers.  I hope you remain disease free.  I would wish this on absolutely no one.

  • HelloFromCT
    HelloFromCT Member Posts: 280
    edited October 2009

    Hi Karen,

    I know exactly how you feel.  My onc also wanted me to take Tamoxifen.  He was adamant.  But I was afraid of the QOL side effects, as well as the possible long-term or serious side effects.  I didn't want to be thrown into having hot flashes and the other more common symptoms described.  My gut just said NO, I can't take this.  My onc said I can't just do 'nothing'.  I have to do something to cut my risk of BC.

    I am scheduled for PBM surgery with immediate DIEP on January 5.  Once I made the decision for surgery, I knew it was the right thing for me.  I would never have a moment's peace wondering if or when the BC dx would come.  For me, having the surgery now, makes it easier because it virtually eliminates my risk (ok, not totally), and I have more control over recon choices than I would if I did get BC.

    I know that this is not the answer for everyone.  My onc said that some women can't live without their breasts, and some can't live with them, once they find out they are high risk.  I am definitely the latter--I can't live with them--not with any peace of mind anyway.

    There are lots of women who do high-risk monitoring, and they are happy with that choice and it works for them.  They know the risks and they can live with it.  It's all about personal choice and what your gut (heart) tells you is right.   I think you should listen to your gut--heart--instincts--whatever you want to call it.   Good luck and keep us posted. 

  • KarenT17
    KarenT17 Member Posts: 46
    edited October 2009

    To be fair, my oncologist is not pushing me in any way to take Tamoxifen.  He just wanted to know my reasons for not wanting to take it.  Like I said, he's rationale is if you take it and I can't handle the side effects (if any) then simply stop taking it.  I mean when you think about it how can you argue with that logic?  Anyway, I will wait to see what my results are from my mamogram and sonogram before I reconsider the Tx.  I totally understand that he wants the best for me and he is not pushing the drug on me.  I was considering doing mastectomy but I have pulled back on that for now.  If things start to get out of hand and they want to do more biopsies and surgeries then that is my next option.  I am BRCA negative and only have a grandmother on my fathers side who had bc in her 70's and was cured.  I am doing everything right health wise and only time will tell what is going to happen next.  I appreciate all the advice and support from you ladies.  When this all happened over a year a go I was a mess and this site is a great help.  If anyone else has input please give me your thoughts and experience as well.

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