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  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited October 2009

    Robin..Happy Birthday to your daughter!  And listen,  Its good to be strong..we all have to be..but if you need to come on here secretly and rant and worry and cry please do so!  We all do that!  Every time I have come on here just to whine a little I  get support...plus you can listen to other people and support them too!  Sometimes I feel I get more support than I give but I try to give back..the thing is.on here..,everyone is going through the same thing...we understand totally what you are going through too....We also try to mess around and tease each other too...it's not all gloom and doom...make sure your read the posts from Lena...she will make you laugh every time!

    Helen..I too have felt that deep sadness...know exactly where you are comng from....and it so hard to shake...you try to think of happy things...and how hard you are working to get this crap OUT....right now..I'm just trying to enjoy my time now..and not worry about the future..too much...when I was first dfiagnosed I didn't know if I would see my son graduate..I did...or reach my 50 birthday..I did...now I'm concentrating on Thanksgiving.....just a few goals at a time..and rejoicing when I reach them!

    I know that chances are good that we may all live a normal lifespan....we need to concentrate on that...and have hope.

    I told you about that crusty old bird who doesn't care what she looks like...well she is the extreme....but there was another lady at the cancer center that came right up to me and told me that she has had breast cancer 3 times and then lifted up her shirt and showed me her chest!  Her daugher said come on mom!  I just laughed...we all handle things differently...my sis in law is brac 1...her daugher carries the gene also..she feels guilty because her daugher will have to have her children before 30 and have her ovaries removed..she may also have to have a masectomy...

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited October 2009

    Plus..a shout out to our list of ladies on the April chemo list..There are several not posting...maybe they are out having fun?  Hope so...I'm not even on the list but here I am..almost daily!  

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited October 2009

    Hi all, good to hear from you! Betsy, I am doing so much better, I still have occasional burning in the stomach, but nothing compared to before.

    We had the best trip to NY, so much fun and I ate and drank!!!

    Still waiting for more hair though...

    Have a good week, hugs to all!

    Judy x

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited October 2009

    Titan - hi, good to hear from you!

    I felt fine when I got my diagnosis, I couldn't even feel the 2 lumps they were so small. I had only gone for a routine check up as I am a BRCA1 carrier.

    It was the treatment that made me feel so unwell for so many months, I never believed that I would be able to do anything "normal" again. I still go to acupuncture regularly which I find really helps me and they did tell me there, that the human body is very "busy" and that it will heal, but it takes time. Some even say, a full year from diagnosis!

    So with each day there is improvement.

    Hugs, Judy x

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited October 2009

    It's good to stay in touch with you. Even though most of us may be through the "active" treatment phase, we will always be on this path together. From Arimidex (or Tamoxifen) to Zometa to reconstruction, to sadness and happiness......I do check in every day and enjoy reading the posts and really appreciate the encouragement I get here.

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited October 2009

    hrf - I totally agree with you. There are days when I don't get a chance to read or post, but it is always good to come back, catch up and see how everyone is doing.

    These discussions are a great source of support and encouragement for us all.

    Take care, Judy x

  • Alaina
    Alaina Member Posts: 461
    edited October 2009

    Radiation Eve!

    Well, let's get the ugly out of the way first. I had a scare today.

    I was gazing at my scar this morning (as I do every morning) and I noticed thickening and pocking under the center section of the scar-line. It was same sort of "look" that the skin on my breast had prior to the cancer diagnosis.

    I remained calm on the surface, but inside I was completely freaking out! I'd read far too much (on the Internet) about cancer recurring in/on/around scar-lines from surgery, and as strong as I've been, I really don't know how I would have been able to stomach that happening.

    So I went to my PT appointment and was on the phone calling upstairs to my surgeon's office to have them take a look at it on an emergency basis. They squeezed me in and assured me in a very compassionate and understanding manner that I had nothing to worry about. It was just the skin changing as it healed. And most importantly, it was nothing that would delay radiation treatments from starting tomorrow.

    But I was scared ya'll. Recurrence is always just below the surface of primary cancer survivors, and it doesn't matter how strong and brave we appear on the outside, nor does it diminish how grateful to God we are of our current NED (no evidence of disease) status. The fear is always there...riding side-saddle with our faith. You just work every day not to let it take over your life, to focus on your faith and turn down the volume on your fear.

    On a much brighter note, and boy was THIS needed today. I went by the yarn shop and received the absolutely WONDERFUL afghan my yarnie friends knitted for me! I cannot WAIT to wrap up in it (it's HUGE!) on a cold winter's night, snuggled up in my recliner! Yet another labor of love and kindness that I've been the blessed recipient of!

    That really made my day! My wonderful support system always manages to do something right before a big phase in treatment to help me enter that phase with confidence; knowing that I am so loved and cared about!

    And speaking of love and care...I spent Saturday evening with my college sorority sisters in Phi Mu! It was our first real reunion-get-together in 17 years!!! It was so great to see everyone and when I walked in, I was greeted with applause! That was a little overwhelming, but I needed those hugs and well-wishes, and I thank each and every one of those wonderful women for just embracing me and encouraging me! And Praise God, I didn't get home until 1:30am in the morning, but my energy levels remained HIGH! Two months ago, heck even a month ago, I wouldn't haven been able to hang out like that, but I'm so glad, things are settling in to my "new normal!"

    October is proving to be as busy as I expected, but I welcome all the activities, projects, and yes, even tasks at work!

    Next month, I'm going to the LBBC (Living Beyond Breast Cancer) Conference in Philadelphia! This will be my first one, and I can barely wait! I'm taking two workshops while there; Managing Your Fear of Recurrence, and Journaling (to maybe help with this book everyone keeps telling me to write, LOL!!!)

    So this is the deal; radiation treatments daily (Mon-Fri) for about 5-10 minutes a day. I go in, strip from the waist up, put on a gown open to the front, lock my belongings in a locker and head down the hall to a room with a door about 6 inches thick. Lay on the table, slide into my AquaCradle, lift arms up over head, get situated by the techs, and then lay there to get what is essentially an xray, but a LOT stronger than your normal xray!

    Potential side effects can be itching, burning, rash, skin peeling, all in the affected area getting the radiation (left chest area, under left arm area, upper chest near collarbone). Fatigue towards the 3rd or 4th week of treatment is also possible. The great thing about rads is that the techs see you daily and can monitor any potential skin problems and nip them in the bud before they progress. More serious potential side effects could be heart damage and damage to the upper quadrant of my left lung. But nearly every one I've spoken with whose had rads has said that it's a piece of cake, a walk in the park, compared to chemo. I'm trusting that to be true.

    My first treatment will be tomorrow at 5pm. After that, all other treatments will be at 8 in the morning, so I can go to work afterwards. And if it's anything like chemo, before I know it, I'll be posting here telling you I'm nearing my final treatment!

    So here's to walking in the park...with cake!,

    Alaina

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited October 2009

    Alaina, good luck with the rads. Also I found that since there were some times when I had to wait a few minutes to be seen, I always took a book with me to stay occupied just in case. I also took gentle wipes with me to wash off the marker so it wouldn't stain my clothes.

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited October 2009

    Alaina - I finished on Friday. It was a piece of cake to me for sure. They warned me not to expect that, because some people get very fatigued or burn, but I did neither. Am glad it is over but just because it iwas another milestone, not because it was unpleasant. 

    Glad you are doing well. Stay in touch!

    Amy

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2009

    Alaina - for most of us on here, the rads was a piece of cake.  A few sisters dealt with skin issues - peeling, blistering and sores, and they had to lay off periodically.  Aquafor is great for keeping the skin very moist -it just really is greasy.  I used aloe immediately after rads and in the morning after a shower and at night.  Just kept everything very well moisturized.  For the most part, it is usually uneventful.  I do still have tenderness in that breast, only when I am laying down and roll over or get up suddenly - and this has been getting slowly better since the end of June.  I also had rib tenderness and cartilage swelling, again, mostly as we got towards the end, and that took some time but is much better now.

    I didn't feel fatigued until near the end and then since my treatment was at the end of the day, I could work, drive over, get my tx and then go home.  Towards the end of the tx, I would go home, and take a 15 minute nap, which helped. 

    Good luck - and remember to moisturize!!

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited October 2009

    I am not having rads, but wanted to check in and let everyone know that I am keeping up with your news and thinking of you all!

    Have a good evening, Judy x

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited October 2009

    Hi Judy!  always good to hear from you!

    I have one more rad tomorrow...then free!

    Alaina...you can have your walk in the park and eat the cake too!  I sense from your personality that you will be just fine!  Keep in touch and let us know....the one thing that is so nice is how quick it is..no sitting around for hours with drugs dripping into you....you are in and out and have the whole day to do what you need to do....and you don't feel weird from it either...

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited October 2009

    Titan - so glad you are nearly done! Good for you!

    Celebrate every moment!!!

    Hugs, Judy x

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited October 2009

    I'm DONE now..

    And..celebrate every moment...that is what I'm planning on doing...now matter what may lay ahead...the time to celebrate is NOW!

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited October 2009

    Titan, so happy for you! How are you feeling? Hope you enjoy celebrating!

    Hugs, Judy x

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited October 2009

    Thanks Judy!  YOU have been such a positive person through everyone's chemo and rads even though you had issues of your own...I've always known that you would be around to support everyone!  Give those kids of your kids another big hug from me..even though they will probably squeal!  I miss mine so much but they are both coming home from school next weekend after we go to the beach and I can hardly wait..I will have this relaxing time then BOOM they will be here with their laundry and their friends and want me to cook and it will be chaos for two days..LOVING every minute of it>

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited October 2009

    Hey Lena..where ARE you?  Hanging out with the pack rat?  I have this imagine of him in my head..maybe a little short but BUILT with dark wavy hair...Am I close?  Oh..and pretty damn smart...because you are and he would have to be so you guys can have conversations between...well you know what I mean!

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited October 2009

    Titan - I love the chaos that the kids create when they are in the house with all their friends - I really missed that when I was sick.

    I think that we all draw so much support from eachother on these threads - really I do.

    Dawn, where are you? Betsy??

    Have a great weekend everyone, hugs, Judy x

  • Alaina
    Alaina Member Posts: 461
    edited October 2009
    Flu Shot Goose Chase!


    Well folks, I made it through my 1st four (of 28 ) radiation treatments. I don't resemble burnt bacon yet, but yesterday I noticed tiny little bumps in the affected area that look like a mild heat rash, and today I'm itching a little bit. I bought Fruit of the Earth 100% Pure Aloe Vera Gel, and I'm to use it 2x a day (once immediately after treatment and once before bed). Reports I've read from others who used this state that they had no problems with burning/peeling skin. ...yeah...

    Speaking of which, as I waited in the interior waiting area (where you can be half-dressed) to be called back to the radiation chamber, a woman came into the dressing room pitching a fit! She was totally distressed because one of the techs had removed some of the circular-tape that protected the markings on the side of her chest, and the SKIN CAME OFF WITH THE TAPE!!! She showed us the raw, pink area, and I immediately shifted into self-protective-clear-your-mind-or-think-of-dead-puppies mode! She is in her 5th week of treatment (with another week to go) and clearly her skin was breaking down (yet another potential side effect). Thankfully, my treatments will only BE 5.5 weeks, so hopefully, any of the truly nasty side effects will either not occur or just be beginning just as it's time to end; and the healing will come faster that way.

    In the meantime, I will use the aloe vera gel faithfully and wash the affected area like a baby's bottom (squeezing soapy water gently and never scrubbing, patting dry) with Ivory or Dove soap. One study has said that drinking one glass of red wine daily while in radiation will help with skin toxicity issues. When I asked my radiation oncologist if I could have one glass of wine daily, she said I could have two; one for me and one for her! Gotta love medical science! LOL!!!

    So, I went in for Herceptin-Only Treatment #10 (of 17) today. With the rain and the cold, it just seemed that every thing and every one was moving in slow motion today. I was also supposed to get my seasonal flu shot. Go figure, the hospital ran out of flu shots yesterday. *sigh* So I had the daunting task of driving around Baltimore and surrounding counties in search of the ever elusive flu shot. After calling/visiting 5 various Targets/Walmarts/Walgreens/RiteAids, I finally found the precious shot at the Safeway in Ellicott City. *whew*

    I have a fairly busy weekend ahead and I'm looking forward to it. Even if it does rain the whole time (hopefully it won't, especially for the Breast Cancer walkers on Sunday!)

    In the HairUpThere Report, I can happily state that I've got a 5'o'clock shadow! Ok, maybe a 2'o''clock but YAY!!!

    The yarn for my newest project arrived today, so after I finish my Welch's Grape Juice with Crushed Ice (nothing like eating your juice with a spoon!), I'm going to curl up in bed and fondle some fiber!

    Have a Wonderful Weekend Everyone! Alaina

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited October 2009

    Hey Alaina - I was faithful to the red wine study all the way through RADS...I think it worked and sometimes it dulled the pain. At least I enjoyed myself... LOL.

    I used a glycerine soap with no fragrance through rads and it worked very well. I had skin break down in under my arm (do to rubbing) but no problems with the boost area and the rest of the RADS area. I had a lot of swelling but it's gone down a bunch and I'm almost two weeks PFR. It feels so much better today than two weeks ago. 

    Judy - I saw your post on the hair, hair, hair thread about facial hair. I shaved mine. I couldn't stand it. The pull off tape removal technique hurt like......well you can catch my drift.

    Titan - Have a wonderful trip! I hope your boob doesn't blaze too much next week so you really enjoy your get-a-way.   

    This next weeks starts the first full week of what I believe is the beginning of my healing process. No more assaults on my body. I will pass the two week mark from Rads - they say Rads burns up to two weeks out. I feel thankful my breast is back to it's pre-Rad size...although I suspect it's going to shrink some more. My dh & I decided we are re-joining this gym we use to go to up until a year ago. I feel good, thankful, hopeful and very happy to be done. 

    Lena- Are you still doing ok on the tamoxifen? I haven't really had any se's and I worried there for a while thinking it might trigger my migraines again, based on your post. TG it didn't. I hope you are doing ok.

    On the hair front...I have color...it's mostly gray, a dark gray. I've gotten a number of compliments on how good it looks short. Even my dh likes it. I think it still looks medically induced but give it another inch, it might look ok. Funny thing is, it's a mix of guys and women saying they like it...they say it looks edgy. Well a little too edgy for my liking...but who knows maybe I will keep it short. It sure is easy.

    Helen..how's that Nordic walking going?

    I hope everyone is feeling good.

    Betsy 

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited October 2009

    Helen and Lena..you had better get your freaking **S*... on here pretty soon before I have to start worrying about YOU..Please don't make me worry!!   Just pop in and say HEY or something..PLEASE!

    Alaina..I just finshed rads on Wed....the nurse said my skin looked like it may break through but so far so good..does burn a little...don't know if you go to the rads forum but it has a wealth of info...plus Betsy and I are there in the September rads forum..if you would like to read our comments...that is!

    Betsy..."edgy"...is that a good thing...I hope so because your hair sounds like mine..."edgy"..mine too is brown and gray...most people I show it to call it a "boy cut"..and think  I should go topless...My mom..though...thinks I should wait awhile....MOTHERS!   

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited October 2009

    Hi everyone.....pleased to read that more and more of you are finishing the "more active" phase of treatment.....it seems like it's been going on forever. I've been out with a small group of women and physios from the hospital to do Nordic pole walking. They're doing this as a pilot study and if the results are good, it will be offered to more bc women on a regular basis. They are teaching us good technique and we laugh a lot. It certainly offers more of a workout than just walking - burns more energy and I can feel it in my arms, shoulders, and core .... so it's good and there is no need to go fast or long .... 30 minutes at a reasonable pace gives a great workout and we are outdoors and having fun. The study is for 10 weeks and we've done 3 so far. Has anyone else tried this?

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited October 2009

    Good to hear from everyone - a bit of a crazy day today. I will try to check in again soon.

    Hugs to all,

    Judy xxx

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited October 2009

    I posted this on the rads board and thought some of you might enjoy seeing my HAIR progress. I'm not sure how to put one of the pics into this tiny (a few other choice words come to mind) little box, so your going to just have to see the entire album. Computers are not my thing.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/Boca1295/NewHair#

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2009

    Betsy, you look terrific!!!  I love looking back at my hair progress now that I have a full (albeit short) head of hair - when I was moaning and complaining at how little it seemed to be growing, it really did change week to week. 

    I have started having a few more se's from tamoxifen, but nothing like Femara, so I think I'll be able to handle it.  Mostly low back and hip pain, sporadically, and some shoulder/neck pain, again, sporadically.  This is in addition to the hot flashes.  Also having some tamox-insomnia, so its back on ambien on some nights, but all in all, if this is the worst, I can handle this.  So busy with work (boat show season) and home - and have been working out as much as possible, maybe it's helping.  Helen, the nordic pole walking sounds so cool!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2009

    Hello again, ladies.  Just got some GREAT news - my BRCA tests are NEGATIVE!!!  One less thing to stress over - and every little bit helps.  Whew, I am so relieved.

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited October 2009
    Chelev - I am so happy for you. Getting my negative BRCA results was a huge weight off my  mind as well.  GOOD FOR YOU!
  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited October 2009

    Betsy - Amazing pictures! How far we have all come!

    Hi to all and hugs to all!

    Judy x

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2009

    Amy, it sure was.  I really didn't realize how much I was holding my breath over this test and how nervous I was until I found out - it was almost like waiting for biopsy results again.

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited October 2009

    Chelev - Wow, reading your post about the negative BRCA brought back a flood of feelings - I remember when the onc handed me the lab report...it was one of the few times during this journey that I broke down crying..you're right, I didn't realize it until then that I had such anxiety over those results.  Very happy for you!

    Betsy - my hair is just about your length, but almost all platinum.  I was fortunate with my hair..only 4 weeks pfc.  Hair started growing back on Taxol, and I've had two "trims" already.  Not so lucky with the eyebrows and eyelashes - nothing much coming back yet.

    Sunday was the Making Strides walk here, and while it was cold and pouring rain, 10,000 people turned out to walk 3 miles around Woodbury Common Outlets here in NY (about 3 miles from my house).  I did the walk with my daughter who raised $2,000 - so proud of her- my company which sponsored a "Pink Ribbon" for the walk, my manfriend and another bc.org 4 1/2 yr. survivor who lives 10 min. from me and PM'd me way back at the beginning of treatment, and we not only got to meet, but we walked the walk together as survivors!

    On another note, I just need to vent some anger here at my onc.  I've never had a warm, fuzzy with him, but I was ok with just having him work his chemo magic and getting me through this.  I've read enough stories on these boards of people getting suprised after chemo was finished to find out the onc had rads in mind, but just didn't say anything until chemo was over.  Well, to be sure I had no suprises, I took control and asked the onc two months ago if there was any chance he was going to reccommend rads after chemo (I had mastectomy, wide margins and node negative).  He said nope, no rads.  So today, at my monthly visit (I'm on herceptin after AC-T until June, so I go weekly, but have a visit with him monthly), he says "Everything looks very good...I'm going to give you a referral to a radiation oncologist".  I was panicked...All I could say initially was "WHAT, why?", then "This is not going to go over well", as I threw the paper that I had written my questions on to the floor.

    So, what does the onc say..."oh, sorry, it's just a reflex for me to say rads after chemo...you're node negative, you don't need rads".  Now don't get me wrong, I am so happy that I didn't get another suprise and need rads after 6 months of chem and another 8 months of Herceptin to go, but DO YOU THINK that he could have checked my chart before he talks about sending me for rads?  I cried all the way home, and if I thought it would be the best thing for me, I would try to find another onc - but at this point, it would take more energy than I have.

    Well, thanks for listening....you are the only ones who can truly feel the anxiety!

    Geri

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