Any May 2009 Chemo Starters?

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  • Hemen
    Hemen Member Posts: 33
    edited August 2009

    Hi ladies

    I think we are all getting very tired of all of the crap we are going through.  We should look back and be so proud that we've made it this far with a vestige of sanity left!!!

    I just had my rads appointment.  Tatoos hurt-- got 4 of them, 1 between boobs, 1 between boobs and belly button, 1 on each side parallel to one lower on the stomach. Quick prick then a bunch of sting-- breathe out when they stick you, it does help.  Had a CT scan which was easy comapred to MRI--no IV-- very quick.  I've got sharpie ink all over my chest--lovely.I go back next Wed for simulation and to set up my schedule.  My Rad Onc said he would give me a prescription for a special camisole to wear-- so be sure to ask if that's an option when you guys go.  I was told no bras and freaked as I am a college Prof who teaches 18-21 year old adolescents-- cannot go without a bra / padding. -- not that they will find me attractive in my current bald and yellow skninned stage:) That's when he mentioned the cami...I too have the bras with eyes up the front from walmart-- I used them post lumectomy and I do use them to exercise, butI wear 2 as I need the extra support. They are cheap and work great.

    I'll get the skinny of the lotions and potions next week I guess.

    Lots of hugs to Titch on her surgery,. Susie-- good luck with rads, I'm sorry it's so far for you to go. All of you on taxol/taxotere--hand in there, you will make it through.

    big hugs to each and every one of you

    Helen

  • Hemen
    Hemen Member Posts: 33
    edited August 2009

    Just put a pic of me and my oldest daughter at last chemo as avatar-- it's too small to see I thin-- I'll see if I can enlarge it.  This child has been an angel.  My younger one, not so much.

    Take care :)

    Helen

  • AbuelaBoricua
    AbuelaBoricua Member Posts: 62
    edited August 2009
    I hope everyone is doing well!  I just got home from my Look Good, Feel Better class!  It was great! We got lots of make up  and great information. Our volunteer is a professional make up artist that gave us great tips! If you have not done the class, I highly recommend it and the best thing is it does not cost anything. If you can't attend they will send you the bag and a dvd home. Lots of HUGs for everyone! Innocent Diana
  • echosalvaje
    echosalvaje Member Posts: 191
    edited August 2009

    OK, THIS IS JUST NOT FAIR......My husband has just been diagnosed with prostrate cancer! They're telling us that as soon as I finish my last chemo on Aug. 20, for me to get going quick on my rads because my husband will need surgery! WTF!!! I would be nice to be able to at least get some strength back before we have to do Cancer...The Sequel. AAAAUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHH

  • deb6563
    deb6563 Member Posts: 179
    edited August 2009

    I had a so so weekend.  Had taxol # 3 on Friday and friday night, could not sleep at all.  The steroids had my mind racing and I go so much done in my mind as I lie in bed.  Too bad it didn't get done in reality.  Saturday morning, I got up and scrubbed my kitchen from top to bottom.  I was sweeping my screened in porch and suddenly realized that I was doing too much without resting.  How do I know I was doing too much?  I passed out.  I felt myself going and just sat down on the porch so I wouldn't hit my head.  Hubby was cutting the grass and saw me go down and he, being a paramedic, didn't panic but took good care of me.  He made me come inside and lie down on the bed with a fan going on me so that I could rest and cool off.  I slept for about an hour and then felt alot better.  We went out to dinner and a movie that night.

    Yesterday, I ran a low grade fever and today I have felt like crap.  I was only able to work 4 hours today before coming home and going to bed. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.

    Titch - when you are able to check in, just know that I am thinking about you and praying  for you.

    echo - you were posting at the same time I was, so I edited to say that I am so sorry, I will be praying for you and your hubby. 

  • LoriR
    LoriR Member Posts: 131
    edited August 2009

    Echo - I am so sorry to hear that you need to go thru all of this again with your husband.   I don't even have the words...

    Deb6563- hope you are feeling better - I know this heat is a real bugger and can can sneak up on you quick especially in our fragile conditions.  so good that your husband was there and that he knew what to do for you. 

    Heman - thanks for the update on the rads visit- Mine is Thursday so now I know what to expect.

    luvforocean - Is your rads visit was this week too??? 

    everyone else - best of luck and stay strong!

  • Sukiann
    Sukiann Member Posts: 310
    edited August 2009

    Echo, I just signed in and found your post.  I'm so sorry that you and your family have to go through this.  My heart goes out to you.  Keep us updated on his surgery and of course your progress.

    Deb, take it easy and don't try to be superwoman!

    Hope all of you are having a good day wherever you are with treatment. 

    Hemen, I too got my tatoos and they hurt!  Got one right between my breasts and the other one under my arm.  They look like blackheads to me.  I feel like I need to squeeze them to get the black out!  I went for my treatment planning session last week.  Now I just wait to hear when they want me to come in for my trial run.  I guess the first day is the trial and the next day is the real thing.  I can't wait for this all to be over.

    BTW, my hair is actually starting to grow.  I have a five o'clock shadow on top!  I'm four weeks out from my last chemo treatment.  I knew it would grow back fast as I'm all Armenian and we tend to be hairy people!  I just hope I don't find it growing in places that I don't want it to grow!

    Thinking of all of you EVERYDAY!!!

  • AbuelaBoricua
    AbuelaBoricua Member Posts: 62
    edited August 2009

    Echo, I will keep you and your family in my prayers. 

    Deb, I hope you are feeling better!

    I have one more chemo on Monday and my consult with the radiologist on the 19. I guess I did not realize the tattoos hurt so much, Yikes!!!

    To everyone else have a restful night! Hugs, Innocent Diana.

  • jaelsne
    jaelsne Member Posts: 82
    edited August 2009

    Echo:  I'm so sorry.  Things are unbelievably tough for you right now.  We all have to have confidence that we'll get through this.  Just know that we're all here for you.

    Mary:  So you joined the club of the near-passer-outers.  Thankfully your dh is a paramedic.  The paramedics who came to my aid last Friday (the store where I was shopping had a policy of calling, which is good) insisted that I go to the hospital. I felt fine within an hour, but stayed there for five hours getting a saline drip and plain old hanging around the ER.  I'm grateful that they attended to me, grateful that it wasn't a heart attack, and grateful that all is well now.  I guess we all have to learn that our minds like us more active than our bodies do!

    Jo Anne 

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited August 2009

    Jeez - is there nothing that doesn't hurt with this animal of a disease?????

    Linda

  • TexasRose
    TexasRose Member Posts: 740
    edited August 2009

    Echo- I am so sorry you and your husband had to get that news. You are both in my prayers.

    Titch- You are in my prayers as well. Hope your surgery goes well.

    Deb- Sorry you are feeling poorly. Slow down girl! I know what you mean about doing stuff though- I started painting my craft room this week. Probably don't need to be doing that, but I felt good so I did it.

    Sorry for all of you who are having painful tattoos right now. I hope rads goes well for you.

    Benisse- I asked the clinical trial nurse today about nadir. She said I need to be careful all through chemo. My WBC were a little down today. They expect that but of course no Neulasta shot so she said I still need to avoid crowds and take precautions to avoid germs. I guess even though I feel great, I still have to live like a hermit. I hate that.

    Sukiann- Yay on the hair!

    My labs were okay and I am getting Taxol #3 out of 12 tomorrow. So far so good. I feel great. Only minor bone pain and a little tired. And my nose is a little bloody. Not bleeding, just dried blood inside. At least it has stopped running. I am loving feeling like a human being again on Taxol, but I also keep waiting for the bottom to fall out. Hopefully it won't. I hate, hate, hate going up there and I cannot wait until this is over. I am so sick of getting chemo! But I better get over it because I have a long way to go. Getting it once a week really makes it fly by though. Seems like I was just up there and it's time again.

    Hugs to everybody!  

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 5,161
    edited August 2009

    Tom- So happy to hear your wife DI was able to go to wedding~ I find that when i first started my chemo it felt like every one was staring and talking about me, now i forget im bald and dont look normal when i go out,  and it seems like the stares are less and less~

    JOANNE~ OK, now Glen Campbell??? LOL! too funny!

    Suzzee- what kind of tatoos did you get? and where? lol!

    Titch~ we are all praying for you today, hope every thing went well (((((((hugs)))))))))

    debbie

  • zuzeee
    zuzeee Member Posts: 171
    edited August 2009

    Hi Girls Forced myself around the golf course today, had to put in card to up my handiap as I can no longer play on current one!! Felt like shite all way round, new bf Ian kept saying eat something to give u energy and I said mate it is the chemo that is doing me in. !!! What is it with men???!!  Don't they know that chemo is poison and does no cell in the body any good!!! Survived and will play on a true handicap !! for the 4 day tournament on 17th August!!

    Echo my heart goes out to you WTF??? Life is not fair . Lots of love to u and everyone out there.

    Pink hugs Suzzi

  • Kelly2
    Kelly2 Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2009

    Tom--after many phone calls and sending off medical records, my insurance is finally paying for those neulasta shots until Sept. 9. How funny that yours will pay if part of the IV drip and not the shot itself. Insurance....can't figure them out at times. I am hoping my dr. will say no neulasta shots with the Taxol which I start next week. Glad your wife's family got to visit with  her and it went well---with the no hair. Good luck to all with whatever treatments you are going through now whether chemo or rads.

  • luvtheocean
    luvtheocean Member Posts: 87
    edited August 2009

    There is so much going on on this page that I can't even figure out where to start!

    Echo- I am so sorry to hear about your news!!!!!  You will be in my prayers

    Everyone else, hang in there, A/C does suck, but I am finally feeling better 3 weeks after final a/c.

    Suk- I am starting to grow some hair on top too! Peach fuzz but hey, its hair!!!!

    I start Rads next week, I think it is Thursday, have to look at calendar to know for sure, the chemo brain part is still with me.

    Hugs to All!

    Becky

  • LoriR
    LoriR Member Posts: 131
    edited August 2009

    Ok so we have been a little slow lately so here is something that got me fired up today.  I am the HR director were I work.  We have 5 locations and I have 5 HR reps that work for me.  My boss is the VP of finance.  I have been working full time since my diagnosis and reduced to 25 hours/week since chemo.  Even when I am not at work I still take calls at home etc.  I had a lumpectomy and missed two days of work and a reexcision and missed two more days.  I have worked for this guy for 14 years.  Today He thought it would be funny to tell a room full of people in front of me that he thinks I am milking this whole chemotherapy thing by only being part time and that the other managers (ie purchasing and acctg) have to work extra to = out the amount of time I am taking off.  He also said that he could easily do chemo because  of some of thing restrictions it puts on you he already adheres to - he said this because I had told him that I couldn't eat soy or raw veggies and he doesn't like either.  I proceeded to tell the whole room which included our president that I would be more than glad to trade my cancer for someone elses full time work schedule - I couldn't believe it.  He thought he was being so funny and nobody laughed!

  • luvtheocean
    luvtheocean Member Posts: 87
    edited August 2009

    Lori-

    OMG!!!  I would have been so fired up.  I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut, you were so much more diplomatic than I would have been.  What an a-hole!!  I right there with you, I would have much rather worked this summer than be in bed.  I am one of the ones that couldn't work and luckily the company I work for is HUGE and have been very supportive.  I have been very blessed that way.

    Sorry that you had such a rotten day!  I would demand an apology!

    Becky

  • Janet22664
    Janet22664 Member Posts: 155
    edited August 2009

    .Lori,  I can't believe the insensitive remarks of your boss!  I surely hope that someone in the company tells him that his remarks were out of line and that he owes you an apology.  I am sorry that you had to endure the rantings of such a fool. 

    Janet

  • zuzeee
    zuzeee Member Posts: 171
    edited August 2009

    Lori I would have punched him!!! I think today has been the toughest to date, feeling exhausted, stressed out by an internet provider that I have been arguing with for 5 days, finally gave me a voucher for $150!! but the stress it has caused has been huge. Spent the day in tears, screaming at people on the phone and swearing loudly, until I exhausted myself. Never made it to work but worked from home again!! Am upset that I have to leave my home for rad treatment. The nearest city is 2 hours drive away and my initial plan of commuting daily and working is not a feasible option, it would exhaust me so plan to stay in Hamiton on Monday, Tues, Wed & Thurs. I look after my folks so I don't know how they are going to manage but they will just have to!!! Going to miss my folks, dogs, friends aggg I want to scream again!!!!! The sooner this is over the better.

    Becky glad to hear you are feeling good again. I think I need to go to sleep, it is nearly midnite feeling a lot calmer but still churning inside about life and all the custard it keeps throwing, sometimes it is too hard to deal with.

    Pink Hugs all Susie 

  • Burkiworks
    Burkiworks Member Posts: 18
    edited August 2009

    I started with Taxotere. I went the full schedul, with lots of side effects to deal with: bone pain, neuropathy, sensitive, peeling and splitting skin on my fingers (take really good careof your hands if you have this drug;  don't wash your hands too much, use lotion all over).

    The finger splitting made using my hands really painful and caused them to bleed. I was always using bandaids to cover them. I had nausea, but not extreme. None of the treatments made me vomit, so that was a blessing.

    For mnoths I hadI suffered with hemmorhoids and after suffering through a few weeks of that, I started doing a sitz bath about three times a day. It really helped. I used Prep H cream and sometimes suppositories and a prescrption for a different one (forgot the name).It was cream to inject. That was really hard to use.It took months to subside. You really have to take care of going regualrly and if you use laxatives, really be careful...too much and you get diahrrea, too little and it's ineffective. I had to experiment ot get the right amount that was perfect.. Sometimes, I'd so constipated, I

    d take a laxative to get it going. Too much resulted in painful, explosive elimination and resulted in a painful rectum area that I took hours to subside. Usually I just went applied Prep H cream liberally to the area, then to bed for a nap and tried to relax my body.

    None of the cancer treatments were working well enough and my cancer markers kept rising. At that point, I had to make a decision. He'd try one more chemo which he hoped would work, but he was doubtful, or I could decide to quit and he'd set up Hospice.

    I was so confused and anxious it was so hard to decide. A cancer counselor came to see me then. After we talked, I asked her what she would do. She said if she felt well enough to cope, she'd try it. so that's what I did.

    About two weeks ago, I started a round of Gemzar. It really depleted my red blood, so the next chemo appt. was cancelled. I got two liters of read blood cells instead. I felt better, but I'm struggling with my weaknesses. Last week's bloodwork my cancer marker number improved. I don't know if it's enough of an improvement, but I have hope.

    Test results for cancer markers AG 15-3:

    10/16/08  234

    4/20/09 180 

    6/29/08  212

    7/28/09  178

    I'm hanging in there. It's hard, but doable.

    I pray for all of us going through hell.

    Joanne B

  • TomnDi
    TomnDi Member Posts: 63
    edited August 2009

    I just posted a similar note to the June Chemo's but wanted to share a thought or two here, to see if any of you have noticed similar "changes."

    We are on day 7 following tx#4 (A/C) and I've seen a noticeable change in this wonderful wife of mine, but it's not been a pleasant change.  She is ornery and occasionally lashes out; not like her at all.  She's struggling with chemo brain, what she calls "Buzz Brain."  She's having a difficult time concentrating, completing thoughts and conversations.  She feels agitated, restless, and "antsy," unable to just sit and rest.  Where she used to read 5 to 7 books a week, now she can't make it through one a week.  Reading is her life. (She works PT in the children's books section of our local university bookstore.) 

    I've been doing some research on "chemo brain" and it's evidently a common s/e of chemo.  There are some who believe it's similar to post traumatic stress syndrome.  If you think about it (if you're able to think), it makes sense.  Your life has been disrupted in a major way, especially with the unknown; not knowing what the next treatment is going to be like; not knowing how you'll react to the chemo; not knowing if the cancer is gone for good; etc.  Add to that the disruption of your "normal" life and you begin to see where PTS makes sense. That's where forums such as this one can be so helpful and beneficial. I'm so grateful to each of you for sharing your thoughts, struggles, questions, and suggestions.

    Not to sound overly self-serving but Diane's BC has been somewhat of a blessing as her children and her husband now have to care for her. She's had to allowus to care for her, something she's found extremely difficult.  As a family we've become closer.  We will survive.  And, I realize that this change in attitude is temporary; simply tx#4.  She'll be back to normal soon.  We just need to continue to support her, assist her, at times ignore her, and simply love her.  That's the easy part.

    All the best to each of you as you journey together through this rather rough, unpaved, unchartered road.  Consider me an admirer of your strength and positive attitudes.

    Tom

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited August 2009

    Hi all

    Thank you for all your wishes.... I had my masectyomy and nodes surgery on the 4th, it went amazingly well.  I was out of recovery at midday, a lil dozie that arvo, but by 4 p.m I was getting in and outta bed by myself, being my bubbly self, I didn't suffer any pain and still had full movement of my arms. My surgeon and nurses, were amazed at how well I was recovering.  They keep saying the power of the mind in healing definitely helps.  Which is what I have believed.

    Only prob I had was one drain didn't drain properly so fluid was building up where my breast was, but soon learnt how to unblock my drain and release it.  I knew it would be the only thing hindering me coming home. But all went well and they let me come home today.  With my 2 drains. 

    I am absolutely happy, at the mo I am officially cancer free, I will see my health team next week and get the full details from the pathology of my cancer and nodes and where too from here.....

    I am sorry I am not able to respond to everyone posts at the mo, I will catch up with everyone.... I got another 3 weeks and 1 day off work so lots of time to catch up personally..... take care all big huggles. 

  • zuzeee
    zuzeee Member Posts: 171
    edited August 2009

    Hi Titch, Glad to hear you are still your wonderful powerful self, you keep going gal. TomnDi re books, I was an avid reader, 3 to 4 books a week for years, have not finished a book since this started. Just lack the power to concentrate for any peroid of time. Now read magazines instead.

    Went to work today for 6 hours, survived, all vaguely back in control, I think!!??? Glad tomorrow is friday. Nite nite Susie

  • zuzeee
    zuzeee Member Posts: 171
    edited August 2009

    Oh TomNDi are in June group!! Blonde moment. Now awake again at 1 am, have slept 4 hours and feel as if I want to party , all asleep downunder!! Anyone awake over there?

    Have a great day all.

  • deb6563
    deb6563 Member Posts: 179
    edited August 2009

    Titch - so glad you are doing well.  I have been thinking of you and praying for you through your surgery.

    Tom- what Di is going through sounds like what I went through.  My hubby even asked my onc if she could give me some "anti-mean pills".  I am a total bookworm and could read a book a day.  Now, I am lucky to get through 1 every two weeks.  It is very frustrating, but this too shall pass.

    {{{Hugs))) to everyone

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 5,161
    edited August 2009

    Hello May Marvels=

    ttIts been awhile since i posted, i have been reading all posts and thinking about you all!

    Titch- So glad your back home and doing well, the drains are a pain, but hopfully you will get them out soon

    Tom and Di- i just noticed your pics, dont know if they been there all along but beautiful picture of the two of you- Chemo brain is not only being forgetful but for me it was like a weird painful high my head felt like a helum ballon, weird description but its somthing you cant describle, it does go away, and im thinking maybe the steriods is what is making her ancy, your brain thinks of all the things you wanna do but your body wont catch up, and steriods make you cranky , shes lucky you are so caring

    Susie- your probably sleeping when we are up. with the time difference, and today is tomorrow right LOL!

    Had #4 tx 10 days ago and i feel worse than i had the last 3 still feel bad, had to have #3 shot today, counts are dangerously low i have to go get 3 more shots, till sunday, i start getting bad bone pain by the 3rd shot, so i imagine by tonight i will be in such bad pain i cant take it, i started my pain pills already hopfully i can get ahead of it,  hope every one else is doing good

    your all in my thoughts daily

    angel hugs debbie

  • TomnDi
    TomnDi Member Posts: 63
    edited August 2009

    Today continues to be difficult for Diane.  It's day 8 following tx#4 and it's everything you all said it would be.  She's got a fever that's not quite severe enough to start the antibiotic.  She had to leave her part-time job early today because she was, in her words, totally wiped out.  She came home and slept for a couple of hours, something she rarely does during the day. 

    For all of you who are suffering through hell, you've earned heaven in my book.  Many, many, many years from now, I look forward to meeting you all there.  We can have a survivor party, those who went through this and those who sat on the sidelines and had to watch.

  • echosalvaje
    echosalvaje Member Posts: 191
    edited August 2009

    Hey Titch, congrats on getting through surgery. It must be a huge relief after all this treatment. 

    TomnDi, being able to focus on a book or even a movie has been difficult since all this started. My husband has kept me occupied by going for drives. It has been especially helpful this past week when we were having a horrible heat wave since we don't have airconditioning in our home, so the car was a great place to hang out.

    I had a weird experience last week when I went in for #5. My onc said I could stop and not do #5 and 6............HUH? He said there was no concrete documentation that patients did any better doing six treatments instead of four of Taxotere/Cytoxan, and since I had become so weak it was my choice to continue or not. This from the man that told me in the beginning that my surgery only gave me a 50% chance of surviving the next five years unless I did SIX cycles of chemo and seven weeks of daily radiation. Now he says I can stop???? Awfully tempting to say the least. I told him I was here to fight my cancer and if my stats looked so bad four months ago and that his recommendation was to hit it hard, then what were we waiting for....plug me in. I don't want to look back years from now and wonder if quitting early would have made a difference of recurrence. Of course now that I am sick as a dog I think knowing I could have stopped is making this go'round feel worse than usual. Nothing like adding a mind game to the mix.

    Hugs all around gang! 

  • AbuelaBoricua
    AbuelaBoricua Member Posts: 62
    edited August 2009

    Echosalvaje, you made the right decision! Remember that what we feel during treatment will get better in a few days. However, wondering about the decision to stop treatment will linger on for a long time. I wish your Dr would not have put you in a position to make that choice.

    Titch, I am glad everything went well.

    TomnDi- It is very hard to concentrate on any task. Even something as simple as watching a movie. However, it will et better once the treatment ends.

    To everyone else I hope you are feeling stronger by the day and getting lots of sleep! Lots of HUGS! Innocent Diana

  • jaelsne
    jaelsne Member Posts: 82
    edited August 2009

    Echo,

      I also will be having 6 t/c infusions.  Before I started chemo, my onc told me that he wanted me to have six transfusions, but if I wasn't doing well with them I could stop after #4.  I, too, will have follow up with rads.

    Jo Anne 

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