Any May 2009 Chemo Starters?

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  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited July 2009

    Hi gals.

    My eyebrows and lashes have thinned heaps but not lost.  I haven't had to maintain them my whole session of chemo, been nice not to shave legs and arms too. 

    I am doing good, counting down to surgery.... a week tomorrow. 

    My fourth session really did knock me for a while.  But even then it was still minimal side effects, I have not had nausea once thru all the treatments.  No probs with immunity, bloods etc.  If I do have more chemo....I will never muck around with the steroids again. 

    Zuzee....I think it is amazing you been playing golf, I know our courses are big to walk around. 

    I was talking to a work mate today and I was talking about my kids.... they don't really help out at home, even doing their chores.  I feel like I am arguing and battling them all the time to just do the simple things.  She was horrified, that they were like that when I had "cancer" and she said they thought they would be more helpful.  I explained it hard, cause whilst I am sick, I don't feel sick, and I don't act sick..  so to them I am not sick.  I said if I was very sick, nausea, in bed, they probably would be more helpful and pleasant and just do it....cause then I am sick. 

  • anji111
    anji111 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2009

    Hi Deb, sorry to hear you've been so sick and that you had to miss 2 treatments.  I hope you're on the mend and can get back on track with treatments. (As much as we hate them.)

    I think we all know what you mean about struggling.  It's hard to be positive sometimes when you feel sick all the time!

    Let us know how you're doing and good luck with Tuesday.  Hope you have a great week too!

    Anji x

  • anji111
    anji111 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2009

    Hi Titch, You have been so lucky with your treatments!  Just wanted to say good luck with surgery.  Hope it all goes well.

    I just noticed yesterday that my eyebrows have thinned out too!  I have a couple of bald patches.  I can't wait to get back to normal.

    My kids are the same.  Everything (housework) is left up to me.  And I keep wondering when my maid is going to show up.  I haven't seen her for weeks.   She hasn't done a good job since I got 'sick' so if she shows her face, she's fired!  Oh well, it's only dirt - right.

    To all the May Marvels - hope you are staying well.

    Anji x

  • luv4my5girls
    luv4my5girls Member Posts: 34
    edited July 2009

    Titch: I understand this situation...But it's with my oldest daughter and my husband.  I think if I was hugging the toilet and having all kinds of bad side effects then maybe they would consider my feeling.  My husband has been stressing my out so bad that I think I want to leave him...he has added more stress to this whole situation.  He's been wanting me to kick out my oldest daughter so everyday he says to me "is she gone yet!"... which pisses me off and stabs at my heart like a sharp knife!  she helps me more than he  ever has.  I  feel like I am dying inside every time he looks  toward her or even  hears  her - he  rolls  his  eyes  or gives her this death look.  I just can't deal...this cancer stuff is easy compared to the rest of the crap I am dealing with!

    sorry I opened my self up and vented a little too much-I think! Cry

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited July 2009
    luv4my5girls-So sorry you are dealing with all of thisSmile!
  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited July 2009

    luv4my5girls  - this is definitely the place to vent!

    Do you suppose it would be a good idea to show your husband this posting? no doubt he will claim he has no idea his behaviour towards your daughter is hurtful to you. He needs to hear it loud and clear! Leaving him causes all sorts of other stresses - which are not what you need right now. Having been there, done that, I'd respectfully suggest deferring any decision about things like that til you feel better - and you will feel better!

  • Janet22664
    Janet22664 Member Posts: 155
    edited July 2009

    Hi everyone,

      I'm so glad that other families are experiencing the same things.  Although my family is wonderful, there has been no special treatment extended my way.  Like TITCH, I haven't been sick with nausea, just fatigue, so it's hard for my teenage daughters (15 and 19) to view me as sick or needing help.   It's an especially difficult summer as my 19 year old daughter returned home after her first year of college and we are dealing with all of those issues in addition to cancer.  (Anyone who is a parent of college-aged children can tell you that it's challenging when they return home.)  I want to pull everyone together and stay close, and they, naturally, want to "grow up" and do their own thing.  I agree with LUV4MY5GIRLS, it's hard to deal with the everyday "crap" on top of the cancer "crap". 

    Janet

  • jabl1252
    jabl1252 Member Posts: 40
    edited July 2009

    Hi May Marvels, So sorry Love4my5girl that your husband is acting so childish to your daughter.Our familys just don't get what kind of pressure we are enduring at this time.I don't have much help here but I think it's because they see me doing everything and feel that I am capable,but it would be nice to have them clean up after themselves. I have been very emotional this week,cry at the drop of a hat or get really mad.Not sure why cause I had no treatment this week.Going for number 5 next Monday and not looking forward to being exhausted like last treatment.Getting excited about this part being over with.My eyelashes are starting to thin out also but eyebrows seem to be intact.Janet, my son will be leaving for college in a couple of weeks and I am stressed out about him on his own.He has been fighting with his stepbrother alot the last couple of weeks,whom he can't stand,so maybe some space between them will be good Take care and hugs to everyone that needs some comfort. Julie

  • gmp300
    gmp300 Member Posts: 351
    edited July 2009

    Hello May Marvels--- Iam back home with my camper. It has been a hectic, fun and sometimes relaxing week! Camping is alot of work and I had alot of friends coming by, but for the most part it was nice to be able to get away from the housework!! Now Iam back and everything needs to be cleaned so it looks like I will be cleaning for the next 2 days before my 4th and last chemo on Thursday!! Yeah!! I dread it but at the same time can't wait to get it behind me!!

    Most of you's are done with chemo-congratulations for making it thru!! Some of us are close to being done-Yeah!! And the rest of you's , good luck getting thru yours! What a journey! Also best to all of you's who are moving on to other forms of treatment. Time has gone by pretty fast and I pray for all of us for healing and strenght to continue on.

    I have not posted much but have been keeping up on everyone's progress. Glad to see most of us moving on. I feel pretty good now and Iam hoping that my 4th tx is not to bad. It seems the se get a little more each tx or at least last takes a little longer to bounce back.

    Iam going to try the Latrisse for my eyelashs and Iam going to even put it on my brows. They are pretty sparse. Has anyone tried it? It is suppose to help your lashes grow longer, thicker and faster. I hope it works.

    Take Care Everyone-Geri

  • Sukiann
    Sukiann Member Posts: 310
    edited July 2009

    I too have experienced this with the family.  Not really my husband but with the kids. They go one with business as usual.  Unless you are in bed, almost dead, they don't help out.  I was kind of resentful at first but then I stopped myself and thought that if they were the other way, doting on me then maybe I would be upset that they were worrying about me and I wouldn't want that either.  I guess just a little bit of helping out without the worrying factor would be good.

    luvmy5 - hope things get better at home soon.  Stress is not good for anyone, especially someone going through what we are going through.

    Go for planning for radiation tomorrow.  I'll fill you all in on what it's all about when I get back.

    Love to all.

  • Madge24
    Madge24 Member Posts: 150
    edited July 2009

    luv4my5girls -- So sorry you are having to deal with stress on top of treatments.  Hang in there!  I too have our everyday problems and cranky husband.  But I let him know how hard that was for me and that seemed to help for the time being anyway. 

    jabl1252 -- I also am on tx #5 this week.  Good luck!  Do you have 6 treatments total?  My last one is Aug. 21.

    Hang in there everyone!  We are having hot weather here in Seattle, hope it's pleasant everywhere else.

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited July 2009

    Am I the only one in the May Marvels that is having 12 weekly of Taxol? I feel like I am so far behind you guys only going for #3 tomorrow but I will get there slowly but surely!

  • taj72
    taj72 Member Posts: 50
    edited July 2009

    Blondie45-My mom is doing 12 weekly Taxol and is coming up on #8.  She has 5 more weeks of Taxol to do and then 15 weeks of Adriomycin and Cytoxin, so don't feel like you're left behind.  I'll be here lurking and posting for many weeks to come! Laughing

    Although it may seem like it's taking forever, especially as others are finishing up, just know that you are getting better and each week is bringing you closer to a pathalogically complete response (hopefully). 

    Everyone else, sorry I haven't posted individually but there are so many people to keep track of now.  I am reading your posts and cheering for your victories, feeling for your sorrows and praying for your cure.  For those of you who are done with chemo, congratulations!  I am so happy for you.  For those of you who are close to finishing, I know you are tired, but you're almost there and we're all rooting for you.  For those of you who still have a ways to go, like my mom, keep your spirits up!

    Anyone have any tips to help the awful taste in the mouth that comes?  My mom is at the point where she can't taste anything, except an awful sour, bitter taste as though she has medicine in her mouth.  She already uses plastic cutlery instead of metal to try to prevent the metallic taste. Also any foods that you guys can taste and recommend?  

    Also any of you experiencing choking problems?  My mom's esophagus appears to be problematic.  She chokes on foods that seem to get stuck mid way down her esophagus (sometimes even hours later).  Anyone else have this problem?

    As always thanks for your support!

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited July 2009

    taj72-thanks for letting me know about your mom and her journey, and yes unfortunately it seems she has a long ways to go also. The only thing that helped my metallic taste was brushing my teeth when I was done eating and using Biotine mouthwash. Not sure about anything to help the esophagus. You are so great to be on here trying to find things to help her!

  • jaelsne
    jaelsne Member Posts: 82
    edited July 2009

    Hi all,

      Just came home from chemo #4 out of 6.  I dunno if I mentioned it before, but I have a friend who goes to my onc and also has the same chemo I do.  We have "chemo playdates."  She drove me to chemo today, brought me popsicles and lunch, and went to my onc with me.  We talked the whole time.  Actually had fun.  

      A bit concerned about this chemo, as I have a lot going on.  My MIL is coming in from New York for our annual trip to the family camp at UC Santa Barbara.  She is 92 but in good shape.  My husband told me this weekend that he is going to cancel out of the trip due to work commitments.  I don't want to cancel the whole family due to financial loss and the fact that my almost-14-year-old would be terribly upset.  Plus I enjoy going to Santa Barbara--staying by the ocean is very healing.  

      Anyway, it means that I'll be doing all the driving--plus watching over my daughter and MIL for the two weeks (actually my MIL is staying only one of the two weeks).  Because it's a family camp, it should work out fine.  If any one of us needs help or a trip to the hospital, whatever--there are tons of people who can drive us.  I've been tolerating chemo quite well, so it should be okay.  But it is a little nerve-wracking to think about what MIGHT go wrong.

      Worst of is that my husband has absolutely no sympathy for my situation.  It would be much better if he said "I'm so sorry, honey, I need to stay at work rather than go on vacation.  I know it will place a burden on you.  There's nothing I can do about work, but I'll do what I can to help you."  Instead, he very crabbily said "I gotta stay at work--no choice.  You have no reason to complain--I'm the one staying back."  Under ordinary circumstances I would be delighted, as my husband is a difficult person to travel with.  I'm more fearful, of course, because of the treatments.  I think it's understandable, don't you?

    Jo Anne 

  • jaelsne
    jaelsne Member Posts: 82
    edited July 2009

    Luv4my5girls:

      My sympathies for you dealing with family crises in addition to your cancer treatments.  I went through a similar period of my life dealing with my (bipolar) husband.  Turned out that he had severe sleep apnea--once he was on a breathing machine, he turned into a teddy bear.  My sister had mentioned it when she witnessed him berating me about something on the day my mom died and suggested he have a sleep study.

      Just a thought.

    Jo Anne 

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited July 2009
    taj72 -  I had that awful taste thing too. The best part was that it only lasted for a few days. Water tasted bad! Other people have said the same thing and I thought that would never happen to me. It did. A friend coincidentally dropped off a selection of caffeine free fruit teas  - they tasted all right hot or cold. Pepper on whatever I am eating seems to help a bit too. Nothing completely made it go away except time. No doubt it will happen with my next two taxotere treatments as well - at least this time I will be ready for it.
  • luv4my5girls
    luv4my5girls Member Posts: 34
    edited July 2009

    jaelsne: thanx for that suggestion- he has had 2 scheduled but never went-he procrastinatesYell-I think he's bi-polar.  he is nothing like the man I married.  I can't deal ! 

    Thanx for everyones sympathy, I truly need it...i was afraid to open up, but it has helped hearing from all of you

    thanx again!

    Viki 

  • LoriR
    LoriR Member Posts: 131
    edited July 2009

    Hey to all - I am trying to keep up with everyone but just too hard.  Just a couple of things.  I was told by another chemo patient that if you suck on mints while getting chemo it eliminates the metal taste.  I didn't get to try it but thought I would pass it on-  I keep saying that we will all figure all this out at the same time that we are done. 

    Is everyone still planning on staying here thru rads?  I am -

    As for the hubbys and kids - mine too don't think a thing of letting me be normal (at least that is what I jokingly call it to them).  They let me do all the house work, they get crabby and have attitudes and forget about all I am going thru.  I guess half of me likes being normal and not being treated like a poor cancer patient but I agree too that every once in awhile it would be nice for them to say - hey prop your feet up and let me take care of things.   

    take care and stay strong everyone

  • deb6563
    deb6563 Member Posts: 179
    edited July 2009

    Wow!  I feel so blessed.  My 16 year old daughter is doing most of the housework and most of the cooking.  I do what I feel like doing, which isn't much after working all day.  Now that she is back in high school band 6 days a week, people from our church bring us food so that I don't have to cook.  Hubby is working alot and hardly ever here, but when he is here, he does the laundry and ALWAYS cleans up after himself.  I am  so sorry for all of you thats family is not  helping out.

    I have that bad taste in my mouth, my tongue feels like it has grown fur and nothing taste right.  I hardly eat, because why eat when you can't enjoy it?

    I will be here for the 12 weekly taxols.  2 down and 10 to go or 1/6 of the way finished.  I plan on staying in this post for rads also.  I know that Blondie, Janet, and TexasRose are on the same schedule I am so there will be 4 of us here for awhile anyway.

    I will check back in later

    {{{HUGS}}}

  • TexasRose
    TexasRose Member Posts: 740
    edited July 2009

    Hey all,

    Yes, I am on the 12 weekly Taxol schedule also. I had #2 today. They had me take a Xanax and gave me a Benadryl, so I came home and slept for three solid hours. I was zonked!!

    I am so sorry that some of you are having family problems on top of this. I don't have any kids, but my husband and my family have been so helpful and so wonderful. I am very blessed to have them. Friends help out also and keep my spirits up. I also have chemo angels. I love getting mail from them. It makes me so sad that so many of you aren't getting the support you need from your loved ones. Maybe it is time you sit them down and tell them. Hugs to all of you. You know you can always vent here and we understand and support you.

    I'm going to rest some more. You are all in my prayers.

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 5,161
    edited August 2009

    Hi to all my dear friends- I had my last chemo today, and im sorry that i cant respond to every one, TAJ said it best when she said taht she is cheering evey one on and praying for a cure for every one!

    Sorry every one is having problems with there spouces, mine has been pretty good, but somthimes he says honey can i help you and im like well, you could of asked me an hour ago, not when im done lol!

    I got a little plaque for graduating from chemo today, i wanted to do a tap dance but didnt have it in me and i know from the last chemo was worse for me than the others and heard the last one is worse plus i get the really bad bone pain, my onc almost didnt want to give me chemo because of cold, and wheezing but i didnt have a fever so they did it, im already feeling a lot more now at this early in the chemo but im a wired tired so dont know if im comeing or going!

    Some of you are asking how many are going to be staying here, well, i feel like i have a bond with all of you and i dont want to leave , You all will be saying she is done kick her out and i will be leaning against the door with my arms outstreached saying no, no dont make me leave LOL! All kidding aside i hope i can give you all some comfort too, thats just another part of our journey as hard as it is-

    Im sure i will feel pretty bad for awhile but i will be back to see how you all our, my thougts and prayers are with you all, thanks for all of your support thru my tuff times

    Geri- glad your back from camping i missed ya girfriend bcff

    love to all debbie

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 5,161
    edited August 2009

    One more thing, after reading some of your posts i couldnt resist this joke hope it puts a smile on your face

                         Womans ass size study

                         There is a

                          new study out about woman and how they

                          feel about there

                          Asses

                          I thought the results were pretty

                          interesting

                          10% think there ass is too little

                           85%

                           of woman think there ass is to big

                           the other 5% say they dont

                           care, they love

                           him, hes a good man, and

                           they would of married him

                          anyway

                    

                        

  • gmp300
    gmp300 Member Posts: 351
    edited July 2009

    Debbie6122-- Very funny!!  I agree  LOL!!  About the Ass!

    missed you too!  Geri

  • Gekko
    Gekko Member Posts: 11
    edited July 2009

    Deb6563

    Blondie 45 and Deb6563

    Make that five.  I am also on the weekly Taxol.  I go for my 4th tx tomorrow.  I will be getting rads after that so i will be around for awhle too.

    Congrats to all who have finished chemo!  Wish I could say the same but I'm getting there.

    jaeslne

    I'm so sorry you are not getting the support and consideration from your husband.  Here's hoping that your time there is uneventful and the rest of the family pitches in to make your stay restful not stressful. 

    Well good night all.  May tomorrow be an se free day for everyone!

  • jaelsne
    jaelsne Member Posts: 82
    edited July 2009

    Gekko--

    Thanks for the support.  My husband has been very good throughout my cancer saga.  I have always known that his work is his wife, and I'm the mistress.  He would be too nervous to leave work at a stressful time.  I'm going to have to "deal with it."  I just wish he could be sympathetic to my plight as well as his own!

    Luv4my5 girls--get him to the sleep study immediately!  It was amazing how my life changed once he got a machine!

    Jo Anne 

  • gmp300
    gmp300 Member Posts: 351
    edited July 2009

    I think I'll get my dh to a sleep study to.  He is so stressed over the economy and me that he sleep walks every night!  Eats doughnuts in his sleep and sleeps standing up or on the toilet!  And he talks in his sleep too-  most of the time he is working!  He is driving me crazy!  Doc put him on some medicine and it is a little better.  At least he is sleeping thru the night and in bed again.  Geri

  • jabl1252
    jabl1252 Member Posts: 40
    edited July 2009
    Madge, Yes I have six total treatments,then go on to rads for 20 treatments and also have to be on Herceptin for a year,so I will be on here for a long time.We  need to stick together,our bond here is the best thing that has come out of this journey.Some of you make me laugh with your good sense of humors,and some of you make me want to just hug you and tell you that you will get through this.We have gone on such a roller coaster with our bad se and our mood swings and our lack of support from our family.I feel like you are all a part of my family,and I want to keep you all.Does that sound kind of corney?Must be one of my mood swings comng on.I am so happy for the ones that have finished up there chemo treatments .You must be so releived. Big Hugs to you all. Julie
  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited July 2009

    Oh I wish I could say I am one of the people who has finished - how did some of  you do it so quickly?! I have two more taxotere treatments, one Tuesday coming and the last (ta da!!) three weeks later, then radiation in the fall, and Herceptin continuing since my last treatment for the best part of a year - not to mention some hormone suppressant for however many years after that. I'm here for the long run May Marvels!!

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited July 2009

    jab1252-nothing that you said sounds corney, I agree with all of it. I would not be making it through this without the help from all of you!

    lassie11-I think some people here had every other week Taxol or taxotere for 4 times which would make 8 weeks and may have started at the beginning of May. I started my chemo closer to the end of May and am having 12 Taxol, therefore, will not be done until the end of September and then still have herceptin until next July I believe. In between doing radiation for 6 weeks and starting tamoxifen. 

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