Any May 2009 Chemo Starters?
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One other thing... I don't know if any of you watch the TV show "so you think you can dance" but last stnight one of the performances was called "breast cancer" Not sure if any of you are into this kinda of stuff but if you find it on google or something IT is definately worth watching!
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Hey LoriR, glad you got to have your last one. It must be a good feeling! Good luck with the Rads.
And the Boobapalooza sounds like fun! My son and his buddies use to call their parties -name-palooza. Whoever was hosting it. That made me giggle.
Hope all the May Marvels are having a good day.
Anji
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Wow! It seems like a lot of our group is getting near the end. I am so happy for all of you!!
For the others that have more treatment, you are in my thoughts. It seems like this is dragging on. It will end and we will be on with our lives.I went today have a followup mamo. I had a spot that I was concerned about but it turned out that everything is ok. Whew! I go next week for the planning session for rads.
Just checking in to say "hello". Good luck Zuzee with the boyfriend meeting the family!
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Janet- and Linda-, Mary, Hope you are feeling better with the taxol and your SE are minimal next time around
Lovetheocean-Sorry you have been down and depressed, even though you are done with your chemo, you still have rads to do and that is hard to think about to, hopfully the time will go by fast for you.
Deb- i agree we go thru what we have to because the alternative is worse
Susie- Its probably a little of both LOL i can say that because im blonde too, (when ihave hair)
Lori- Yay on your last chemo!!!! When i did my first chemo they gave me the neulesta shot and i had severe bone pain and thought i was having a heart attack, so they switched to the neupogin shot which is given over a 3 to 5 day period, its lower dose but you have to take it more, it still effects me by the 3rd day, Love the name of your party Boobapalooza i love that lol!
Has any one gotton sick with a bad cold right before chemo? i have been fighting a cold with fever and cough its in my chest and feel like crapola, just wondering if they will still be able to do chemo on tuesday if im still sick ???
Hugs to all and i say to breast cancer,,Dont let the door hit you in the A$$ on your way out!!!!
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Didnt think it took me an hour to post my last one but all of a sudden there are new post here and didnt want any one to think i was ignoring them-
Lori- i ususally watch sytycd- but missed it last night i will google it, thanks
Hi Anji- (hugs)
Sukiann-So glad your spot ended up being normal, Yaaayyyyyy!!!!
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Has anyone had trouble with acid reflux since starting chemo? I've had reflux for a long time, but it got progressively worse with each chemo. I'm now eating Tums in addition to my normal twice daily Protonix dose. I'm worried that this may be developing into an ulcer--just what I need. Next chemo is next Tuesday, hope I get it straightened out by then. I haven't been taking my iron pills for fear that they'll upset my stomach even more.
Otherwise, all's well. Still running around like crazy before I'm down again with my next chemo.
Have a good Friday, everyone (or Saturday if you live in New Zealand!)
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hi everyone,
I was reading something and it alarmed me...and I thought you all should know what I read:
In past years there has been some concern about women who take antidepressants and the effect these drugs might have on breast cancer recurrence.In 2007 after a study indicated that women on antidepressants had an increased risk for breast cancer and that there were some findings that antidepressants might interfere with the efficacy of tamoxifen, a highly prescribed drug designed to lower estrogen levels and reduce the risk of breast cancer recurrence.
Taking a prescription antidepressant along with tamoxifen for breast cancer, you need to review this combination with your doctor
I hope this comes in handy!
Viki
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Hi all you marvellous ladies.
Sorry I haven't posted for a while, had a few crap days after my last chemo, just feeling totally yuk, and so grumpy at everyone. I am normally very outgoing so was a shock to the family. The steroid regime, my oncologist gave me, is definitely what was contributing to me having maintained my quality of life and having the minimal SE. My final chemo I stuffed up the steroids, and really suffered. I am finally back to myself now..... which my family definitely appreciates (titchy titch). I had worked thru, even though I was feeling yuk.
I confirmed today my masectomy is on the 4th august, so my next regime starts....... I looking forward to having a month of work. Not to sure what happens after surgery, either more chemo or radiation.
I hope you all are ok...... and have a wonderful weekend... big huggles
sorry I haven't responded to everyone.... i have read the posts..... but just feeling exhausted
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Vicki
I just wanted to respond to your question. About two months ago there were reports all over the news about the connection between one or two antidepressants and how they counteract and almost wipe out all of the benefits of tamoxifin. (I didn't pay too close attention because I am not on any antidepressants). I don't remember what they were. But I do seem to recall that all you need to do is switch to a different anti dep. You should talk with your doc about it.
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jaelsne-yes I got very bad acid reflux after my 2nd or 3rd AC chemo treatment. I called and got Protonix which took about 2 to 3 days to work but I was at the point where I could not even swallow liquids because it burned so bad in the middle of my chest. Maybe if you are not at that point you can start with Prilosec, which I believe also takes a few days to work but is over the counter. Also, I had to use Tums in the meantime until the Protonix kicked in.
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A big yes on the acid reflux. I always had it but now it's even worse. I use prilosec otc but I heard a report that this is not good to be on long term because of concerns with calcium absorption (apparantly the prilosec blocks calcium from being absorbed). I was on another thread and someone told me that calcium citrate was the one to buy because it is absorbed better when used with an acid blocker. Anyway, I just can't believe this acid. I am sick to death about having to take just one more rx! The chemo makes it worse, so we take prilosec, the prilosec stops calcium from absorbing so we take calcium citrate. When does it end?? Not only that, but if you don't control the acid it can burn your throat and you could end up with esophogeal cancer. Wouldn't that be a kicker.
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Sukiann-You are sooo right and I feel the exact same way about taking more and more meds, etc. When I had my physical last month my gyno told me that I could not use premarin for my hot flashes if they become unbearable because I was ER/PR+ because my cancer is fueled by hormones. I said so I have to suffer with the hot flashes and she said there are some antidepressants that help, and I said I have tried so many of those already and have had some kind of side effects and now I just feel even more that when I get through this adventure I do not want to take any more than I have to for meds. Yes I also had read/heard that prilosec/protonix, etc should not be used long term, but basically I think we have to use it until the chemo is done and then maybe a few week's because if we don't we risk the other things you mentioned like esophageal cancer.
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Vicky- and Lori-had read that myself, i wonder if ambien falls in that catagory as well
Titch- Sorry you have been feeling crappy,((hugs))) and its ok to be grumpy we have that right for what we have all gone thru. hope you feel better soon
Hi blondie welcome back havnt seen you in forever

Sukiann- The one thing i havnt gotton so far is the acid reflux (knock on wood) maybe its because i eat a lot of cold things like popcicles, and stay away from spicy foods except when i put franks hot sauce on my popcorn yum!!
I hope every one has a good weekend, im may be going away for the weekend depending on if i get rid of this nasty cold i have, so i will check back in monday
hugs to all- debbie
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I have had the bad reflux since my first A/C. I was hoping it would get better with taxol but it hasn't. I was already on prevacid for reflux before A/C. Sometimes I have to take one in the morning and another at night. I also use tums a couple of times a week. Since I wasn't able to eat very much with A/C I know it doesn't have anything to do with that and I still can't handle spicy food. I burp alot and it taste like chemicals. So, I guess chemo is the gift that keeps on giving all week.
As far as the hot flashes and anti depressents, I had not read that but I am triple negative so it really doesn't apply to me. I do know that effexor xr really helps with the hot flashes. I was premenapausol before chemo so I was already on the effexor. My onc said if my hot flashes got worse we could up the dosage. So far, I have not had to up the dosage, only having hot flashes during the day a couple of times of week and not having the night sweats like I did before going on effexor.
I had my second taxol today and between the benadryl making me sleepy and the steroids making me hyper, when I got home, I didn't know whether to power clean and think about sleeping, or go to sleep and dream about cleaning. I decided on the later and slept for 2 hours. Wish the dream cleaning had worked.
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debbie6122-thanks much, so far Taxol has been easier but have only had 2 treatments. I hope you get to go away and enjoy the weekend.
deb6563-We are on the same schedule by 2 days and this time so far I only had to sleep for a few hours the day of treatment and haven't had to nap the last few days, so hopefully you are also better this time. Unfortunately though I am having more problems sleeping at all now even with the Ambien.
Titch-Sorry that you are feeling crappy
! I can totally relate to feeling grumpy with everyone. I am SO moody and cry at almost anything these days. -
Debbie- I had a real bad cold right before chemo also. As long as the doc checks you out and your lungs are clear and no fever you can still get chemo. It took along time for my cold to go away though.
Also, anyone here got switched from taxol to taxotere? How is it in comparison? I'm switching because I had a wierd reaction to taxol.
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Thanks for the response about reflux. Seems like a bunch of us have it. I have been on twice/day Protonix for years, and have been surprised that I have had a bunch of acid problems, getting progressively worse with each chemo. I was beginning to worry that something else might be happening, such as an ulcer. I'll mention it to my onc when I see him prior to chemo on Tuesday. Meanwhile, I'll keep eating Tums!
Next question--has anyone had dental work while on chemo? I've avoided teeth cleaning, etc. during chemo--but I'm getting some tooth pain and I'm thinking that maybe I'll need some work done. Not great, especially because I tend to get anemic after chemo. But ya gotta do what ya gotta do!
Jo Anne
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Regarding tamoxifen and antidepressants--not all drugs cause the problem. The study found that SSRI inhibitors (such as Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft) are the trouble makers. Other studies differ.
I'm on Wellbutrin, and I'm told that will be just fine when I start hormone suppressing drugs.
There are a lot of articles on the net about this. There's a good one at about.com.
Jo Anne
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Good morning! The acid reflux has been one of my SE. The way I have manage to tolerate it is with Prilosec, morning and night and Zantac during the middle of the day. Before I started using Zantac, I also used Gaviscon Liquid and it provided great relief since it coats the esophagus and stomach.
Six days after my 3 TC and the neulasta pain in my skull and sternum have been worse than before. I use Tylenol and Claritin and ice for the pain and it is manageable. I also developed chondritis in my sternum. The onc is trying to figure out why.
I hope everyone has a great weekend! Lots of HUGS,
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Hi May Marvels : Happy weekend!
Jo Anne- I was told no dentist, no flossing but I was due for a cleaning and went anyway. They checked my teeth and then just did a really gentle brushing/cleaning and gave me 2 boxes of extra sensititve toothbrushes and told me to throw each brush away after a week. I was nervous about my teeth too, as I'd had a root canal and 2 crowns done last year (funny how THAT was a big deal at the time-- amazing how a little cancer puts it all into perspective). I'd go anyway--they treated me with kid gloves and I was releieved that all was ok-- hopefully all will be ok for you too.
I've had the acid-- brick in throat sensation-- all along as well and thanks to our thread
took prilosec and it has definitely mitigated the acid--it's not gone, but it's much more tolerable. Now that I am done with the chemo, I hope this SE will gradually go away...Did my LAST neupogen shot last night and drank a beer to celebrate (as wine still tastes like vinegar!). Now to wait for the awful bone pain to end-- This 4th (last) treatment was the worst and I cannot wait to feel better. Nasuea much better now due to Zomend (sp?)-- I felt like I had the alcohol-induced bedspins all week until they called in this RX for me:)
Anyone know how soon they start us on RADS after chemo? My onc said they'd call me, but I've not heard anything yet...
Wishing you all a relaxing and beautiful SE free weekend! You are my heroes!
Helen
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Debbie-I also had a cold and cough about the 2nd AC treatment and because blood counts were fine and he listened to my chest, etc, everything progressed as planned.
jaelsne-When I saw my dentist before chemo started he said I had a small cavity starting but we would wait to fix until after the chemo, didn't really explain why. They did give me a fluoride treatment and set me up for another one in a few weeks as I guess he feels that will help my teeth throughout chemo.
Hemen-I just asked that question about how long after they start rads and my facility said about 1 month after.
We are all 1 day closer to finishing our treatment, yippee!
Dawn
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Good morning May Marvels!
I didn't have acid reflux, but I did have heartburn something awful while on AC. Thank God it went away when I finished the AC.
Day 5 of Taxol #1 and I am still feeling pretty good. Some very minor bone pain but other than that I feel pretty normal. I am so glad the nausea is over. I know the Taxol will probably get worse as treatment goes on, but right now I am loving having some energy and feeling like a human being again.
I am doing Taxol weekly so I go back Monday for my labs. I hope that my hemoglobin is higher than it was. They almost postponed the first treatment because it was low. I am now taking an iron supplement even though my iron level was fine. Tuesday will be Taxol #2. Should be a short treatment day. I don't even see the onc. Just the clinical trial nurse. And I will only be getting the steroids and the Taxol, so the infusion shouldn't take too terribly long.
I am so happy for you who are finishing up your chemo!! I have lost track now- who else is doing Taxol and will be around for awhile? My chemo won't end until the first of October, but I'm not having rads.
Looks like another sunny, hot day. That means another pool day. I am excited to feel well enough to enjoy a beer while lounging out! At least I hope I enjoy it. I don't have much taste anymore. Not the metallic taste- just NO taste.
Hope everyone has a great day!
Mary
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I was told no dental work during chemo also. It is because chemo thins our blood and sometimes it is hard to stop the bleeding. Dental work usually causes bleeding and everyone knows how hard it is to stop your mouth bleeding even without our blood being thin.
My Onc told me I would have a 3 week break between taxol and radiation. Those not doing taxol may have a different wait period and of course all Onc are different. Right now, as long as everything goes okay, I will have my last taxol the first Thursday of October and begin rads the last Monday of October. I should be completely finished with everything by the first weekend of December. From what I understand, radiation causes more fatique than all the chemo combined, so I hope all my children will be happy with gift cards for Christmas.
Hope everyone has a great, pain free weekend
{{{HUGS}}}
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Hi all - my onc and radiology guy said that it is six weeks between the end of chemo and the start of radiation. He also said no dental work.
Deb - I had radiation five years ago and chemo now (radiation to come). My experience is that chemo causes about a ton more fatigue than radiation. The driving back and forth (it's almost an hour's drive for radiation for me) is the most tiring part. If you can do chemo, you for sure can do radiation!
Meanwhile, my PICC line is misbehaving. Yesterday the nurse wasn't able to get it to put out any blood - my choices were to go to emergency to have it assessed (and wait for hours) or wait til Monday when the nurse will come back and try again. If it doesn't work on Monday, I think I can go to the oncology clinic where they will look after me quicker than emergency would. I want it to work so as not to delay the last two rounds of chemo. Not that I particularly want the chemo - but oh - am I ever ready for this to be finished!
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TexasRose-I still have 10 more Taxol to go so will be around for awhile. Also on Taxol, so far, I only have to see the doc every 4 weeks. Hope you enjoy your day by the pool, I am so jealous.
deb6563-That makes sense about the dental work. I know mine said none either except for the fluroide treatment he wants me to have. He said little kids hate them and I can see why, feels like you have fur on your teeth and you can't brush them until the next day. Also sounds like we will be very close again in our rads schedule also.
lassie11-Thanks for the encouragement that we may not be as tired doing rads over chemo. Just the 6 weeks straight every day though makes me tired to think about it. I only have a half hour drive each way but I am sure some others have farther to go. Regarding the PICC line, when they couldn't get my blood work out of mine twice now, they have had to literally turn the chair upside down so my head was pretty much to the floor (more or less standing on my head in the chair) and both times eventually they got it to work. The first time I asked them what happens if they can't get the port to work because I was afraid the IV would have to be inserted in my arm for the entire infusion. They said that I had a port and they HAD to get it working, no other option and both times they did. I think they had to flush it like 6 or 7 times also.
After 1 treatment my liver function tests were up already so if they are next week I guess they lower the dose. The nurse said that does not make it any less effective, thank goodness. Also I guess Taxol can be hard on the liver so abnormal liver function tests can be common according to the nurse.
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Mary- I'll be around for a while. I have to do 6 t/c infusions, and I'm having #4 on Tuesday. I won't have #5 until August 25 or so, because I'm going on vacation for two weeks in August. So #6 will be in mid-September.
Regarding dentistry-My jaw was KILLING me this morning! My husband thinks it might be due to teeth grinding, and might be the beginning of TMJ. I hope so--then no dental work needed. They would just give me something to put in my mouth at night when I go to bed. I did have a small tooth chip fall off a couple of weeks ago while I was eating--so I want the dentist to take a look.
Got some bad news from my husband. He may have to stay home while I go on vacation with my daughter and my husband's 92 year old mother. He has a deadline to meet at work. I told him that I'm a bit worried, as things may come up that I may need some help--I hope that he can come. I also am not thrilled about being alone with HIS mother all the time. We are going to a family camp in Santa Barbara, CA. The good part about it is that there are many college students running the camp that could help me in a pinch.
Jo Anne
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Hi Marvels
It is 2 am Monday Morning, so a Happy Monday to all. Titch glad to see you back I was getting worried. You are allowed to be grumpy we are not superwomen!!! I played lousy golf today and commented to new boyfriend that I needed to get fitter, his reply was if you ate less chocolate and drank less wine it would be better!! Fumed my way up the 18th hole, told one of my mates in the clubhouse, laughed and sent him an email stating choc & wine have nothing to do with fitness but accept that they might have something to do with fatness!!! He apologised and said he forgot I was on chemo and that was the reason why I was not fit!!! Wow I think it is amazing that I can play 2 games on the weekend, I walk the golf courses in NZ and my home course is hilly!!!
I was told 4 weeks between last chemo dose and rads starting. Last chemo this week, can't wait!!! Definitely taking steroids this time round, make life much easier and I have a big social weekend in Auckland coming up.
Happy days girls
Love Susie
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Hello to all -
I won't try to respond to everyone as I am feeling kinda crappy from my last chemo but I wanted to just pop in to say Hey!. I was told by my onc not to have any dental work during my chemo since there is a higher chance of infection since our immune system is down. As for rads - last chemo was Jully 22 and my herceptin continues for the next 10 months (every three weeks). It is on the 12th and my first rad is on the 17th so just about 4 weeks after my last chemo.
Here is something I thought was a little odd - DH and I sent in for our passports for our cruise in November to celebrate when this is all done. We sent the paperwork in about 2 weeks ago - We got our passports already and the issue date was July 22 - the same date as my last chemo. Hmmm - I think that is a good omen - date to begin living again - ya know something like that!
Just courious how everyone's eyebrows and lashes are holding up - I still have mine but am worried that this last treatment will "take them" as they are really starting to thin.
take care - hope you are all doing well and staying strong - today is my anniversary so off to spend the day with hubby.
Lori
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Hi Lori
I had last chemo on 7/20 (t/c X 4). Still have eyelashes but eyebrows are REALLY thinning out this time -- I hope they hang in there!
Happy Anniversay! Happy Sunday to everyone else--monday to you kiwis I guess:)
XO
Helen
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Hey, May Marvels:
It's been a while since I've posted because I had what I THOUGHT were rough side effects with A/C #4, but I just continued to feel worse & worse. Taxol #1 rolled around on July 7, and my counts were good and I had no fever, etc, so even though I didn't feel the greatest, I had the treatment. Kept getting sicker & sicker as the days went by, and finally ended up in the hospital for 8 days with pneumonia. So when I saw one of you (sorry--can't remember who it was right now) say that you had a cold, I just wanted to warn you to talk it over with your oncologist before you have another treatment. I wish I would have spoken up sooner. Now I've missed 2 Taxol treatments, and if I'm not well enough for treatment Tuesday, it looks as though I'll be removed from the E5103 trial. It's sometimes so hard to sort out side effects from regular old illness. Guess I'm not too good at that.
It's great to see that so many of you are done with chemo; what a wonderful feeling that must be! And I'm so encouraged by the positive attitudes that I see. I've been struggling with that during this illness, so it was good for me to read your postings again.
Have a great week, everyone!
Deb
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