Radiation with tissue expander

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  • mikkspencer
    mikkspencer Member Posts: 9
    edited May 2009

    Great to see that everyone is doing well with no problems at all. Its good to keep this post going.

    Stay strong girls.

  • Carolyn2008
    Carolyn2008 Member Posts: 202
    edited May 2009

    how is everyone doing?

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited May 2009

    Have my first zap tomorrow.  Nervous cause I am already tight.  I will definately keep in touch.

    Thanks for asking Carolyn

  • LynnVA
    LynnVA Member Posts: 174
    edited May 2009

    I go for the first treatment today on the right side chest wall.  My expander has 340cc in.  I will keep you all posted.  Wish me luck!

  • Carolyn2008
    Carolyn2008 Member Posts: 202
    edited May 2009

    Hi Jrgolomb well how did your first day go hang in there you will do just fine as all of the ladies seem to be doing really well and so will you.

    Hi Lynnva and how did your treatment go today? wow i am only filled to 220cc stay positive and you will do fine best of luck to all.

    keep us posted ladies Wink

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited May 2009

    Carolyn 2008--- It went okay.  I am itchy now and the radiation felt very warm inside.  I hope that is a normal part of the process....Anybody?

  • Carolyn2008
    Carolyn2008 Member Posts: 202
    edited May 2009

    I have read on posts that that is a normal thing to experience and some cream was mentioned for the itchy part i will look around the posts and see what i can find for you did you put aloe on your skin after? good luck today...keep us updated

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited May 2009

    Carolyn---I put aloe on immediately after treatment, last night and this morning.  I also added aquaphor and that seems to cut down on the abrasive feeling whenever I move.  I should have been using it before this anyway!

    btw, I am filled to @ 270cc.....That is my max.

  • Carolyn2008
    Carolyn2008 Member Posts: 202
    edited May 2009

    Oh good keeping putting the aloe on and have you heard of borage oil i have been taking this for a couple of weeks now i got it from the health food store a natural path recommended it for our skin while going through rads so maybe look into it.

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited May 2009

    I will definately do that.  HOw much do you take?  I suppose it has info on the package?  You take it or put it on????

  • Carolyn2008
    Carolyn2008 Member Posts: 202
    edited May 2009

    they are tablets one a day 1000mg

  • LynnVA
    LynnVA Member Posts: 174
    edited May 2009

    First treatment, done. I felt nothing, no noticeable changes.  It takes longer to undress and get into position than the actual treatment it's self.  The machine is big and scary but I felt nothing during the treatment.  I will you all know as it progresses.

  • Carolyn2008
    Carolyn2008 Member Posts: 202
    edited May 2009

    glad to hear your first treatment went well.....  I am sooooo confused i was not going to do rads i canceled my simulation appointment on may 6 and and still really dont want to do it but rescheduled my simulation for tomorrow morning really stressed out about going.   You gals make me feel better moving forward with it  any tips with sims

  • LynnVA
    LynnVA Member Posts: 174
    edited May 2009

    You know Carolyn I don't want to do it either!  I cant speak about how I will feel when it is all over but compared to what I have already been through, yesterday was a piece of cake!  I am scared of what rads will do to my reconstruction but I didn't come this far not to follow through and do everything medicine has to offer to make sure this cancer does not win.  They keep throwing me the curve balls and I'll keep knocking them out of the park!  Be brave and go do what you have to do.  We will all be here if you need a little help or a push!

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited May 2009

    Carolyn-If I remember correctly I was expanded to 360cc's , it looks bigger then that though!

    I am out 7 days from rads, my skin is very burnt and peeling, the worst is under my arm and directly under my expander because of the friction. But no changes in the expander, and hopefully it stays that way!  Carolyn-The sim is a piece of cake, just alot of holding your arms above your head.

  • Carolyn2008
    Carolyn2008 Member Posts: 202
    edited May 2009

    Susan-sorry to hear about you being very burnt and peeling what did the doctors say about it? not sure what you mean directly under expander ? keeping my fingers crossed for you that it all works out did you use aloe and creams? look into borage oil i have it and the natural path said lots of good things it does for our skin from the inside out and highly recommend it for people going through rads i found it helped me with the expansions for the skin to stretch.

  • Carolyn2008
    Carolyn2008 Member Posts: 202
    edited May 2009

    Lynn yes i know what you mean it is just hard since right from the get go the doctors misdiagnosed me so i am having a hard time trusting what they are saying thanks for the support i will let you know if i need the push but so far i am still going tomorrow for my sim (lol)

  • LynnVA
    LynnVA Member Posts: 174
    edited May 2009

    Carolyn, I was told I wouldn't need chemo or rads after surgery.  Then the pathology came back after surgery and was told I would need rads.  I so wanted to put this behind me.  The first words out of my mouth were "what if I dont do it"! For some reason I was more scared of rads than chemo. I can think of a million other things I would rather to for 28 days but I will go ahead and knock this out first. Lets hope the days go by fast and the outcome is awesome! Let us know how it goes.

  • Carolyn2008
    Carolyn2008 Member Posts: 202
    edited May 2009

    I will keep you posted.Smile

    well how did everyones rads go today?  

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited May 2009

    Carolyn2008-- You are right where I was about a week ago.  I went to the radiologist with Ps, Bs and oncologist prediction I would NOT need rads.  Then he dropped the bomb---yes rads.  i was in a state of shock and denial.  He said the latest reports that have just come out say yes, for rads at even early stages--for me it was multifocal cancer.  I was so in denial I got a second opinion and even called in the PS to explain to me what the Sam H*LL was going on?  He said it was chancy the TE would hold up BUT I went in the right direction having a TE put in because no reconstruction and rads is even harder to deal with.  I don't want to have to go thru more surgeries, but I DO NOT want to chance more cancer in breast. 

    SO , I had zap#2 and the doc and nurse said my skin looks really good and I go some lotion with aloe in it and it feels wonderful. One more day---Friday and I have two days and no zaps!!

  • ktn
    ktn Member Posts: 181
    edited May 2009

    I had to have bilateral radiation with TE in. I had been filled both sides to 550cc and had to have 100cc removed from each side for the rad. onc. to get proper radiation angles. After 5+ weeks of radiation I had the 100cc replaced. My healing is going well and I have exchange scheduled for Aug which is 6 months after rad. ended. My PS knew from the start I would need radiation. He said there is always a risk but he felt it would go ok. My rad onc wanted radiation first (to make me healthy) and the exchange later (cosmetic!). I think each MD thinks their part is the most important! By the way- when I finished rads my skin was pretty red and sore but healed fast. The area that was reddest was under the breast area and I had sore ribs because of it. They said the tissue between the ribs gets inflamed. Fortunately, it all improves!

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited May 2009

    Ktn--I am so glad you had treatment with no major problems.  This is encouraging.  And yes, isn't it interesting to note the different points of view?  So , how much tightness of the skin and muscle did you feel? 

    Hugs to everyone!!

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited May 2009

    Carolyn-I guess what I should have said is underneath my boob!  My right expander shifted down a bit so it's sitting on a crease of skin so there's friction.  I also have a divot on the side that was radiated now... I am not sure if it was there before and just slightly, or if the rads made it sink in more.  I have a divot on the left side (not radiated) that has been there for quite some time.  My PS said he'll have to do a fat graft on that side during exchange, but now I guess I'll need it on both sides!  Tummy tuck here I come!?!?

    The only thing I used was a pure aloe vera gel and aquaphor on the raw spots.  Today it doesn't feel so bad, but wow what crazy color skin I have!!

  • Carolyn2008
    Carolyn2008 Member Posts: 202
    edited May 2009

    well how are we all doing?

    Ktn good to hear that you treatment went well and no major problems as that is our fear with the te in so this is very encouraging for us te ladies (lol)    well your exchange will soon be here so please keep us posted how your healing is going.  How are ribs now still sore?

     Jess- how did day 3 go? any plans for your 2 days off?

    susan- oh underneath ok i have heard that now a few times.  Is that common to have the expander shift? well the good thing is that the ps can almost fix anything that happens so cheers to your tummy tuck...  good to hear you are feeling better what color is your skin? 

  • LynnVA
    LynnVA Member Posts: 174
    edited May 2009
    Day 3 done.  2 days off.  Still do not notice any SE or changes in the skin! So far so good! Cool
  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited May 2009

    Day 3 was okay.  I sat in the car on the way home and honed in the air conditioner vents on my breast.  Felt nice and cool.  Rad doc gave me skintherapy that is nice  but sticky.  glad to have two days off.  I have had a rash everyday so far, but it tends to fade as the hours pass.  I imagine it will get worse and longer lasting as I go. 

    I have been stretching and trying to exercise and stay hydrated and that seems to help.  30 more zaps to go. 

  • ccbaby
    ccbaby Member Posts: 985
    edited May 2009

    What is the recommended amount of radiation treatments with TE?

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited May 2009

    My rad amount is calibrated to match the type of cancer i have, where it is/was on my breast and what size I am.  I am fortuante to get 3d version which is honed to stop short of the cancer findings, zap them and preserve good tissue.  I was told the intensity ratings, but i am not sure how that fits in with each and every individual.  The key is to get as close as possible to where the bad source was and preserve the rest. 

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited May 2009

    Ladies.. just saw this thread.

    This was my NIGHTMARE a year ago... There was very little info and help here.. as so few had this done.. but a few gals piped in to help me.. so I wanna share with you.

    I did have TE put in Dec,08'  We all knew I might have rads. I did decide to do them.

    My PS follows Md Anderson Protocol... Fully expanded TE prior to rads. I hear that Sloan Kettering Protocol ( exchange prior to rads) is good too!

    I was expanded to 420cc in 5 weeks( sm/med C cup on me). I did ok with Demerol..LOL

    I had 33 rads... finished almost 8 weeks ago.

    My TE still look the same.. The rads side is a 1/4 in higher.. if you are looking for it you can see it. My skin is the same.. it is not discolored.. it is not thinner.. it is not tighter. It did burn slightly and then tan....during rads.

    Inside is tighter. I do have scar tissue.. as I can tell the tightness of it all.

    I did stretching all through rads.. I still do it. I massage the breast with oil daily... ( I do all this because it make me feel pro-active.. my PS says I am not really doing anything..hehe)

    I , at this time.. do not look like a had rads.

    I go to my rads doctor June 3rd and PS June 5th. I am going to PUSH for my exchange in August. This will be 5 months post rads. I will let you all know what they say next week. If they think I am as well off as I think I am....

    Ladies.. it is doable! Hang in there..

    Anyone wishing to PM me through their journey.. feel free..!

    Laura

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited May 2009

    ps.. I did not have my TE deflated during rads.. and I did not let them tattoo my body for rads. I checked this out with my top radiation oncologist here in Kansas City Breast Center, Dr  Wall... MD Andersons, Dr. Yu .. and Virginia's Dr. Douglas Aurthur....

    Just FYI

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