Any May 2009 Chemo Starters?

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  • deb6563
    deb6563 Member Posts: 179
    edited May 2009

    Hi everyone,

    Went back to work this week and actually felt pretty good until today.  Someone at work was warming up their lunch and it turned my stomach.  Was nauseated the rest of the day.  Got home and my DH had fixed dinner.  I was able to eat and take a short nap before heading off to church.

    Thinking of everyone who are having SE this week and knowing that next week, you will be better and those of us who are better this week, well be having SE next week, and so the circle goes.

  • Janet22664
    Janet22664 Member Posts: 155
    edited May 2009

    Hi All,

    Day 1 after chemo, (does that mean it's really Day 2?  Who knows?) and still doing well.  I believe it may be due to the steroids. I was cautioned to be careful not to do too much while on this day.  But I did do quite a lot today, as I figured I might as well get things done while I could.

    BECKY:  Glad your treatment went well.  Good luck with the SE;s.

    TEXASROSE:  Let me know how you're doing with the SE's also.

    GMP:  Welcome and good luck.  What is a Penguin Cold Cap?

    Oh, here's an interesting story....When I was getting my chemo yesterday, I asked the onc. nurse if there where any dietary limitations or concerns I should be aware of.  She told me that there weren't any.  Then our conversation about wine came up.  Then my DD asked me if I wanted a cup of tea, which also made me wonder about herbal teas.  So, today, while at the onc.'s office  getting my Neulasta shot, I asked about both things.  Well, good thing I did!  Green Tea is absolutely OUT!    I live on Diet Iced Green Tea during the summer months!!!  Regarding wine, the nurse said the Dr. would say none, but one on a non-chemo week should be fine!!  Don't you think both of these should have come up when I originally asked about dietary concerns?  Makes me wonder what other things they left out! 

    DEB:  Check in when you feel like you can.  We want to know how work is going for you.

    Good night all.

    Janet

  • glostagirl
    glostagirl Member Posts: 388
    edited May 2009

    Hi all, 

    I'm another gal that's been lurking reading all your informative posts.  Thanks it's been so helpful.

    I start my second go round of chemo tomorrow Thurs (5/28).  I had my last infusion of AC just one year ago.  I tolerated it reallly well until the final (4th) infusion and then, the "you know what" hit the fan!  This time is TC and I must admit I'm scared of the Taxotere SE's but several of you appear to be doing well so I'm encouraged. 

    Last time I couldn't stand how water felt in my mouth, it was one of the few things that tasted metallic.  I had really liked Propel for hiking & biking,  it's very thirst quenching and has good vitamins and enzymes.  I drink lots of soda water.  A little more guilt free way to have a little white wine is to dilute it with a little soda, yum.

    I got good news today, results of bone and brain scans I had last week came back normal!!!Smile 

    Just happened to notice a lot of triple negative ladies on this thread, hmmmmm. 

    I think I'll check on the June postings as well.  Good luck to all, let's keep kicking cancer's butt! 

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2009

    Kelly, last time when I had a PICC line I developed thrombosis - line was removed and I started getting shots of Fragmin each day. I have a port this time and initially the onc was going to give me the Coumadin as prevention. However, she checked with a cardiologist and came back with a change. Said that Fragmin is the way to go to dissolve those blood clots. Good luck.

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2009

    Jabl1252

    Hi Julie.... I started shedding on Day 12 (currently on Day 16).  I spent  day 12 malting everywhere, in a day my hairbrush was so full of hair  That evening, my hubby shaved it all off.  I had decided to do this the day I started Chemo cause I met the wig lady as I had my first treatment.  I had received my wig a week before I started shedding, and whilst it was tempting to get use to the wig and shave it all off, and my husband was so keen to shave it off.  I needed to see my hair fall out.  I was also holding some hope, that it may not shed.  But I have been so lucky with minimal SE (just tired early evening and cardboard taste buds for a week and a bit) so far on Chemo, that losing my hair was really not a major.  So I was emotionally prepared for it.  I started wearing my wig the next day, and everyone thought I had a haircut, noone even suspects a wig, (until I tell them).  So the transistion has been great.  Cool

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2009

    Sukiann - We will all have our "Chemo Brains" at some stage during treatment.  I had a moment myself today and it made me  blush Embarassed........, a guy who comes into work regularly, who I talk to all the time.... today I asked him, how his baby was, - to be informed he has no baby........ I have no idea where the thought even came from that he had a baby........ to make matters worst I had the conversation in front of many of my colleagues.....

    LRM - My thoughts are with ya gal, and hope it is nowhere as bad this time coming.  I know it is hard to think positive when you have had a hellish ride. 

    Zuzee   Hey gal , All I can say is rest heaps.  Listen to your body and rest when you need too.  Try and have shorter sleeps rather than a long sleep. Last week I would fall asleep watching tv on the couch, then wake.... then go back to bed later.   Visualisations may also help (thinking of those tranquil places).  For me when I was awake.... my brain went into organising mode, thinking in depth about everything, this time round, I won't allow the brain to think........"sleepy thoughts" only for me......   (sorry to say) For me It did go on longer than the 3 days I was actually taking the dexametasone.  This last week has been normal sleeping and I am not so tired. In fact this week has been brilliant.  Not tired and I have my taste buds back to normal. But round 2 is next week, so the cycle happens again.

    The bonus for me though..... I have had no nausea since being on chemo thanks to the 3 days of dexamethasone and ondansetron and I haven't had to take any of the Domperidone (Motilium) pills prescribed for when I feel ill.  I can work tired (take regular breaks at work and I will go and  sit out in the fresh air during the day cause the chill in the air wakes me up). I would not have been able to work if I was suffering from nausea. 

    Another tip,  I read this on another thread in this site which had lots of tips about chemo and working thru the treatment. It said to see if you can have your treatments on a Thursday / Friday so you have the weekend to rest after your treatment.  I had my first treatment on a Tuesday.  My next is on the Thursday Wink.   For me personally the day after treatment was fine, it was the next day I was shattered.

    luvtheocean Big hugs to you also, I hope you have a good nite and get plenty of rest.

    GMP - all the best gal for the 28th....being positive has definitely helped me..... I am also intrigued to know more about the Penguin Cold caps also (anyone).  I am not certain if we have that In NZ.

     It is really great to see those lurking adding to the thread.........  big huggles to you all.

    Quote for the Day:

    "Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway" - John Wayne 

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited May 2009

    gmp300-welcome and you will learn so much from so many great people here

    LRM216-So sorry your first experience was not so good, praying it goes better for you tomorrow.

    benisse-so glad your FAC treatment yesterday went fine for you.

  • TexasRose
    TexasRose Member Posts: 740
    edited May 2009

    Hey all~~ Just checking in.

    Yesterday went well. I had my pre-scheduled physical with my primary including pap smear. Great timing there! LOL Then I headed over to the main clinic and got my Neulasta shot. Went home about 5:30 and slept for three hours. I got up for awhile and then went to bed. They aren't kidding about the tired!! 

    Today is chemo day 3 and I'm doing ok. Got up around 8:15. No nausea, no vomiting, no fever, no metallic taste. No appetite AT ALL. Took my last Emend, but I have compazine also. No bone pain from the Neulasta. Really the worst side effect so far for me is very, very tired.

    I tried to read through and keep up, but it's hard.

    Geri- good to see you here! Can't wait to hear about the cold caps!

    LRM216- hope it goes better this time.

    Becky- Hope this round goes well.

    I know there is so much more I need to say to everybody, but I can't remember. I wish you could back pages without losing what you have written.

    Anyway, I'm thinking about all of you and praying for you. We will get through this!!

    Hugs to all. I'm headed back to bed.  

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited May 2009

    TexasRose-I am glad that you are doing good on day 3, I still felt like I was hit by a truck until I think it was day 5 that I started feeling better, that is really great about the no nausea and no vomiting. I had the nausea but I still felt like eating at least one bigger meal a day. I also had compazine that I took until about day 5. It is also fantastic that you could read and post that much on here as I could not do that on day 3!

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited May 2009

    Well, the deed is done. Today  I had my hair cut really really short and had my wig styled and wore it. Then I went to the grocery store wondering if "everybody knew". As it turned out, no one stopped, pointed and shouted, "That woman is wearing a wig!" Not a one. And the one person I knew who saw me just acted like the world hadn't changed a bit - he isn't the noticing sort, but still it was good, For those of you who are about to meet this challenge, the hardest part for me was deciding which day was the day. About Day 13 (starting with chemo day as Day 1), a few strands of my usually thick hair started to come out. By Day 16 more and more strands were coming out, so I called the wig place and made an appointment for today, Day 18, not really sure what I would want at the appointment. By yesterday, great clouds of silver hair were released to the wind each time I ran my hand through my hair. It didn't hurt at all, but the signs were pretty clear. Last night I knew that I would ask to have my remaining hair cut short to let the rest of it go as it chooses. The wig is ready. And no one noticed. I think it looks just like me with a hair cut and this timing works out well. The wig lady only works Tues to Thurs. On Monday I will go for chemo #2 and know that I won't feel much like dealing with hair issues and also know there would have been quite a mess of silver strands around the house by then with not much left on my head. The cat and I have been competing for who leaves the most hair around. She wins again and I'm content with it all.

  • CatKC
    CatKC Member Posts: 12
    edited May 2009

    Janet 22664- no I didn't do AC the first time around. I did FEC (the E is Epirubicin, very similar to Adriamyacin I think) for 3 cycles and then Taxotere for 3 cycles.

    GMP 300- welcome to this board, and you are still ahead of me, I will get my first dose of Taxotere next week on the 1st.

     I got my port put in this week on Tuesday. The surgeon was a darling, I met him for the first time in the hosp, he read my chart then looked me in the eye and said "That is not a nice story, you've been through a rough couple of years". Too true, but nice of him to be human enough to notice!

    I saw my lymphedema massage therapist today for a workover and she said she couldn't treat me while I was having chemo as it was contraindicated- did anyone else hear anything like this? I wonder if it's because massage makes the chemo toxins leave the body TOO fast?

    My six year old son had a great idea this week. He knows I have to do 3 cycles of chemo then get more CT scans to see if it's made any impact. So he thinks I should "Get all of them done on the same day, cos that'll take about 6 hours then you'll still have 18 hours that day with no chemo, and it will all be over quicker"- IF ONLY!

    Lastly WATER ROCKS! keep drinking it non-stop.

    Hugs to you all

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited May 2009

    lassie11-That is hilarious and just what I needed as I am at day 8 after first chemo and will be doing exactly what you just did about a week or so from now. I have a couple wigs ready actually and think I will be okay. I keep asking myself if I go out on a windy day will it fly off and will I then be so embarrassed??? Love it about who is losing more hair you or the cats, I have 2 dogs but they are little and don't shed too much so I will win that contest in this house!

    CatKC-Aren't little kids wonderful with their ideas, if only they could run the world sometimes!

  • luvtheocean
    luvtheocean Member Posts: 87
    edited May 2009

    Quick update girls...chem 2, day 2 and i feel like sh&^........no energy at all a little bit of appetite but my onc just called for me to come back in for more blood work said my potassium was high?  any one had that ..............

    by the way Titch, I used your quote for my facebook status for the day!  I LOVED IT!!!

    hugs to all,

    becky

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited May 2009
    luvtheocean-Sorry you are feeling like sh&^ but it will get better in a couple days, hang in there.
  • deb6563
    deb6563 Member Posts: 179
    edited May 2009

    Oh Becky - You are such an inspiration, telling us how we will feel on Chemo 2 day 2 Wink  Just kidding.  I felt like that on Chemo 1 day 2.  I still cannot handle plain water, have to add something to it.  My onc told me that would be fine.

    Janet - I am going to ask my onc about the green tea, because that is what I live on also, hot or cold.

    I am on Day 8 and every morning I get up and tug at my hair to make sure it is still "hanging in there"

    My next treatment will be Tuesday, which is also my baby girls 16th birthday.  I felt so bad about having to spend her birthday at the onc clinic.  I told her we would celebrate the night before so that she won't feel so bad.  What she doesn't know is that her best friend and I have been planning a surprise party for her this Saturday night.  Her friend did all the planning and I did all the paying.  Isn't that the way it usually is with teenagers?   She doesn't have a clue and I can't wait.

  • shadow38
    shadow38 Member Posts: 76
    edited May 2009

    luvtheocean:  I've had my potassium levels come back high twice and I was retested the first time.  First during my pre-surgical testing and again before my third chemo.  There are usually two reasons for it.  First, if you held your hand tight rather than relaxing when the blood was drawn, it can cause false high because blood is forced into the collection container.  Secondly, if the blood was left out for even a little longer than it should have been, the potassium level is the first to hemolize and "stick together" causing a false high.  That's probably the most likely reason.  I wouldn't worry about it.  I'm sure your Onc will tell you the same thing. 

    I just had my 4th Chemo and my second Carboplatin treatment (I'm taking Taxol and Herceptin weekly for 12 weeks and Carbo every third week) so I'm 1/3 of the way thru treatment and halfway thru the Carbo/Taxol treatments.  So far so good.  I'm tired but not totally worn out.  Days 2 and 3 seem to be the worst for me in terms of fatigue from the Taxol and Days 12-14 for the Carbo.  My blood is actually still within "normal" range so I haven't started my Neupogen shots yet, which I will be doing at home.  I'm hanging by a thread in terms of being "normal" but I'll take it!!  I'm taking Zofran to prevent nausea and vomiting and I'm given Anzemet during infusion and that seems to keep any stomach issues at bay.  I do have heartburn when I eat anything even mildly flavorful, but I can deal with that.  I have the most intense craving!  It's pretty funny actually.  Chocolate (I'm a Chocoholic) tastes horrendous to me, but I can't get enough Cheerios, Saltine Crackers or Jello!!  I crave Cheerios!!  It's so strange.  I could eat them 3 times a day!

    Thus far, my worst side effect has been sores in my throat caused by a bacterial infection.  I expected mouth sores which I DON'T have.  Apparently, mine are farther down.  We tried tablets that melted in my mouth and that hasn't helped so now we're up to a liquid that I swish and swallow.  I'm hopeful. 

    I also have sleep issues especially the two nights after Chemo.  Those darn steroids will get ya everytime!!  I'm also constantly thirsty and have occasional abdominal discomfort after the Carbo.

    I feel pretty lucky to be honest.  It could be worse.  Alot of this is about attitude and attempting to remain as positive as possible.  I think the next good cry I'll have is when my hair goes.  I can't believe it hasn't fallen out yet, but I'm told this last treatment with the Carboplatin added in will probably do it. 

    I'm sending HUGS to all the May gals!!

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited May 2009

    Blondie - thanks for the good wishes.  They helped!  Had my second A/C and they did cut it by 20% and beginning tomorrow after Neulasta shot, I will begin a 14 day regime of Avelox (antibiotic) so we are all hoping this will keep an infection at bay should I go neutropenia again.  Blood labs were once again perfect this a.m, so we will just have to wait and see next Thursday.  All good wishes being sent your way too!

    Linda

  • Bethie1
    Bethie1 Member Posts: 393
    edited May 2009

    Hi all  !!!  Like gram of 3, I'm a February Furie, and finished chemo last week.  I've read the posts in this group and you all are a group of strong beautiful women who are going to beat this damn disease!!!  My diagnosis was 1 week before this past Christmas.  I was put out a week from 1st chemo by an improperly inserted port, but managed to maintain a strong, positive attitude.  That's half the battle!!! If you ladies can get through this with a good attitude, hopefully your side effects will be minimal.  Mine were hair loss, fatigue, slight queasiness, slight anemia,-low iron and nose bleeds, and slight arthritic feeling in legs.  Rest when your body tells you!! I overdid it at times and boy did I pay the price!!  Keep in mind that your chemo effect will be cumulative, so the more you progress-- the more you will feel it.  Everyone is different, but I felt the last 4 chemos of paclitaxel more than the first 4 of adriamyacin/cytoxen.

    Good luck and keep us posted 

  • Bethie1
    Bethie1 Member Posts: 393
    edited May 2009

    Janet,   

    The way day 1, 2 and 3 work are this.  Your chemo day is Day 1.  The day after chemo is day 2, and the next is day 3.  I had a hard time keeping it straight as well. I had to take Emend (3 pill pack). I took Day 1 Emend after pre-chemo bloodwork; my chemo was every other Wednesday. On Thursday and Friday (days 2 and 3), I took the corresponding Emend from tripack, and 5 dexamethasone each on Thurs and Friday.  Hope this helps

  • Indomitable1
    Indomitable1 Member Posts: 253
    edited May 2009

    Got my port this morning. No complications. Was able to then shop for a 5th grade graduation dress, groceries (easy prep meals for kids, 1 w/leftovers for husband), and cook. Got my chemobag together. Now can't go to sleep. Had a really hard time at work this week-really challenging cases with less than optimal ability to concentrate. Had to take the kids back to work with me yesterday evening so I could close out everything before taking these next few days off. So sad to hear about potential cumulative effects as I'll run out of  paid sick/annual leave days (yea for FMLA but I want an income).... Wish I had visited South Dakota to get that Power Ball ticket.

    So, chemo, Here I come. Joining  the Marvelous May 2009 Chemo Starters. 9 full weeks since my mastectomies. Complications overcome.

    Do we have an official name-like Bethie's February Furie group?

    Thanks guys for all the additional pointers and Heads Up! God's continued blessings as I continue to pray for all of us in this journey to healing/cure/NED.

    Congrats to all you brave souls already in this journey-with such courage ( & I must qualify as I do have saddlebags.) 

    I know the plans I have for you-plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a future. Jer 29:11

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited June 2009
    **May (unofficial) List of Chemo Starters...**
     
    This may not be accurate (hence why it is the "unofficial" list, but I have added all that have posted their start dates.... Please let me know if it is in incorrect and we can change it.  I have also not added some people (as I could not ascertain your actual start date).  So let me know, so we can have an "official list" of us all. Ps, I do mean to offend anyone, by posting this, if you are not happy if your name on the list, let me know and I will delete it. 
     
    *********April **************
    • 28th - Debbie53, Sukiann
    • 29th - Titan
    • 30th - HY66, Camazur, LRM216
    ************May***********
    • 1st - Sherilynne, Modray1481, Mimi50, Burkiworks
    • 4th - Pantufas, Hoolianama1481, CAD-D
    • 5th - Benisse, Lemonjello
    • 6th - Winnie51, Princessofpower, luvtheocean, shadow38
    • 7th - Sfritz
    • 8th - Min8428, rqd817, Gekko
    • 9th - Debinca57,
    • 11th - TN36, JAB11252, Kimmiecat, Lassie11
    • 12th - Titch,
    • 13th - Nymom60
    • 14th - Jodi_smart
    • 15th - Sandy364, Luv4my5girls, mom2twins
    • 19th - Shenagirl, CS34, Kelly2
    • 20th - Deb6563, Katherine H, Cree4joan, Blondie45
    • 22nd - Cindoe 's Partner, Jennap,  
    • 26th - Debbie6122, Zuzee, Janet22664, TexasRose
    • 28th - Faithandprayers, Gymp300, ghostagirl
    • 29th - Indomitable1, Taj72 's mum,
     
    ************June**************
    • 1st - Catkc
    • 8th - Abuelaboricua (ABrose)
     
  • AbuelaBoricua
    AbuelaBoricua Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2009

    Some people also refer to me as ABRose, since AbuelaBoricua is so long. Thank you! 

    How are you?

    Stay positive even through the darkest hours! Innocent

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2009

    I am feeling really good ABrose .....How about yourself?

    .

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2009

    Blondie45

    You asked Zuzee a question on the 28th May 2009 in regards to steroids.  We (Susie and I) have just found out that we have the same oncologist treating us, and I have also been on 3 days of steroids initially at the treatment.  I am not sure if Zuzee is on the same regime, but I thought I would answer the question also.

    I had the steroid and sedative prior to starting my chemo, via IV.  I then had a prescription for 3 days for Dexamthasone and Ondanestron.  The oncologist explained that it gives your stomach a lining to alleviate the nausea for the 3 weeks till the next treatment session.  She also prescribes Domperidone (motilium) for nausea (when needed for sicknes).  I haven't had to take any since being on Chemo though. I have had absolutely no nausea either.  Did have some sleepless nights for about a week, hot flushes in the face as a SE from the steroids.

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited May 2009

    Titch-Thanks for answering, zuzee did send me a private message also so thanks zuzee also.

    Anyhow, I only got steroids in the IV the day of and I did have a lot of nausea starting day 2 through 5 but could still eat little bits here and there. I also had to take compazine from days 2 through 5. I was hoping that because I only got steroids in my IV drip the day of treatment that I wouldn't get the "can't sleep" SE but it started about 2 nights ago. In fact I was so tired last night, tried to go to bed earlier and then got soooo cold (and it is almost summer here) and had to just stay under the covers for a couple hours until I felt better as I started getting nauseated again from being so tired. The paperwork I got on day of treatment said anywhere from day 7 to 10 your white blood cells will come down (even though I got the Neulasta shot) so I was wondering if they started coming down and I started reacting, I am better so far today thank goodness.

    P.S. I would LOVE to visit New Zealand and Australia someday but that 20 hour flight would do me in even before my diagnosis!

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2009

    I have not had the Neulasta shot.  I was also told about the blood cells coming down in my second week.  . I had a blood test on Day 7 and I was fine.  I had the port surgery on Day 11 and they could not believe my general health, blood count was normal, blood pressure etc, perfect..... 

    It is quite amazing the different info and treatments that the oncologists do.  I am just thankful, I am doing so well with minimal SE.  I just hope that the chemo is stopping my cancer growing and shrinking it.  I should find that out on the 4th June 2009.  Fingers xed.

    P.S NZ is a wonderful country is so different to anywhere in the world, as it is not over populated, and we have the most wonderful scenery and a relatively safe country, we are very lucky and it is worthy of the flight (wink).  Watch a few movies, listen to the radio, sleep, eat, relax, and you there.......  I have been to LA before, hubby and I  have plans to go back to US and see more of it. 

  • deb6563
    deb6563 Member Posts: 179
    edited May 2009

    Thanks for your hard work Titch.  The list is great to remind us of who all is  here.

    I will be walking in the Relay for Life tonight (with my survivor shirt)  I did very well, raised over $250 for the American Cancer Society.

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2009

    Wow deb6563, $250 is very impressive 

    I have done the relay for life in NZ for the last 2 years.  It is a very emotional positive experience.  I love the whole atmosphere of doing it.  This year was extremely emotional for me, personally as I was undergoing diagnosis for my breast lump, and whilst I suspected it was cancer, I wasn't diagnosed with it. 

    Next year (held in March here) I will be wearing my survivor T-shirt, and starting my survivor life chain.

  • Titch
    Titch Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2009

    I am going to bed, it is 1.00 a.m here now......

    Big huggles to everyone 

    Take care and Kia Kaha (Be strong)

  • gmp300
    gmp300 Member Posts: 351
    edited May 2009

    Hello Everyone and thanks for the welcome!-----Well everything went great my first chemo.  My veins were good so I won't need a port.  I had a reaction to the Taxatere for 10 minutes.  I had lower back pain (like spasms, it really hurt I flew out of the chair)  but the nurses took care of it and it only happened once.  They said my body has to get use to this new drug because it didn't want ti!  Now that it reconizes it It should be ok.)  I was so busy changing my cold caps every 1/2 hr..  My DH and friend had to do it and they were busy.  I just sat their and had to pee every 10 minutes because I had to drink a quart in a half of water per hourand I chewed on ice.  I was pretty frosty.  My new name thanks to my DH.    My urine never got dark.  Time flew by and the caps were tolerable.  Only brain freeze for the first 10 minutes.  I came home and feel fine, and drank water and had some ginger ale (heard ginger is good for nausea)  ate yogurt and then my husband made nachos and boy did they look good!   Ate them and still feel fine!  I slept good and woke up felling normal.  I have my taste and no constipation yet.  Iam only day 2 so we'll see.  So far so good.  Just wanted to check in and let everyone know how it went and thanks for all the encouraging words and ditto to everyone--Geri

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