Starting Chemo February 2009?

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  • kmn0701
    kmn0701 Member Posts: 117
    edited May 2009

    Hi ladies, just wanted to pop in & say hello. I have TCH # SIX (and FINAL) this coming Friday. I've been dealing with Taxotere tears for over a month & it's driving me crazy. It's by far been my worst SE. My Onc sent me to an Opthamologist who tried to dilate the little drainage canals (in the corners of your eyes) & it didn't work, now they say I have to see an Occular Plastic Surgeon but I can't even get in until June 10th. Not sure it's worth it.

    Anyway, I think of you all often just haven't been around much. I hope everyone is doing well & on the road to feeling better!

    Is anyone else losing their eyebrows/lashes but still shaving their legs?? I know a couple of you mentioned this on facebook but not all of you are on it. So unfair!!! lol

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Oh I have not shaved my legs since the beginning I refuse to BUT I am about to have to start due to summer.  I'm not thrilled about it but if it means my hair is coming back then I'll do it.  Hopefully I don't knick myself 100 x like I normally do.   BTW, make sure you check back in with us since you are on the H bus with me for the rest of the year. 

    Whooo for getting to the final TC :)

  • Gramof3
    Gramof3 Member Posts: 301
    edited May 2009

    OMG!!  Burning thighs??  This does not sound good.  And I have such a large surface area (Thunder Thighs), too.  I never even thought about burning thighs...geesh. 

    I've given up on drawing in eyebrows...the woman at the LGFB class showed us how to use pencil and/or shadow to do it; I bought stencils; I've measured how to figure where they should be---does not work for me.  First, after I lost all my hair, I discovered that the entire left side of my face is lower than the right side; my left ear is bigger than my right; and apparently, my left eyebrow is not shaped like my right one.  No matter how hard I try, I can't get it to look "real," so no eyebrows until they grow back!!

    Apple--Your eyes are beautiful!  Are you black Irish? 

    Webbie!!  Glad to hear from you! 

    Hope everyone has a good week ahead...I'm headed for Taxol #3 on Friday--am almost looking forward to it--the steroids are making my poor worn-out knee much better...Take care.  Helen

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited May 2009

    i have had a sweaty head and have been going without headcoverings for a week or so  - - totally.

    anyone who doesn't like it hasn't said anything.. i have about 8000 hairs. 

    'significant thinning' as my onc says.

  • suzmarks
    suzmarks Member Posts: 83
    edited May 2009

    Forgot to mention that when I was in Brooklyn last weekend I went commando, wore no head cover at all. Since I wasn't at home and had no risk of anyone knowing me I thought I'd give it a try and see how it felt. Actually I didn't feel at all different. I went into Petco or one of those pet places and didn't notice people staring or acting differently. I walked around other places as well. It did feel liberating. I think I have about 750 hairs. I went boating yesterday on the Hudson River. There is this organization call Hope in the Boat where cancer survivors compete in races. It was pretty cool to be with all these cancer survivors. I felt like I was cheating being 4 days out from my last chemo. I was the only baldy there. FOX News was there and I actually was on TV for my 2 seconds of fame. I really relate to you guys talking about how hard we work and how the family just feels like we can do everything as we did before. This weekend I really worked hard in my garden and yard and in the house ( I have a guy coming in to do some construction work so there was lots of preparation for that.) I can't believe I get to the point of panting because I get out of breath so easily once I get my heartbeat up. It doesn't stop me but I sure have to take a lot more breaks. Tingling toes are an issue but I did walk about 4 miles today with my DD. I kept asking if we were there yet but I did manage to complete the walk. Well, back to work tomorrow after a lovely long break. So glad winter is well behind, I love May with it's long warm days. I don't know about you all but since I'm connected to this discussion board I find myself surprised that there aren't lots more people walking around with BC. Somehow the stats seems so high but when I think about it how come there aren't more people at work with it or just people I know. I guess that sounds bad and it's really a good thing there aren't more people dealing with this shit. I guess since it's such a big part of my life right now I'd expect it to be more pervasive. OK, done ranting. Hope all have a nice post-Memorial Day work week.

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited May 2009

    Love it Apple!! I think you need one too (especially after hosting your family!!).

    Things seem better today.  It is amazing how my outlook changes on Tues and Wed?!!  Do you think it is the steroids?? Or the chemo??  I'm sick of this roller-coaster... Super-high (like crazed and manic) Thurs.. Depressed Fri, Sat... A little bit of light on Sun & Mon... Relatively *normal* on Tues & Wed.   I guess predicting it makes it easier but I just don't see doing it 4 more times.

    I'm glad to see everyone doing so well.  You guys are such an inspiration!!  I wish I could do a better job of *moving on* from this diagnosis but the worries are all-consuming.

    Michele

    PS.  I had to shave my legs this weekend before going to the pool.  I had put it off... just hoping tht it would eventually fall out but no dice...

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited May 2009

    Suzanne - I think the same thing, that everyone in the world is dealing with BC too!! Guess we get immersed in the world of cancer.

    I am getting sick of the wig too. Especially now chemo is done with. Cannot wait until I have enough hair to go topless. I am actually starting to wear a scarf around the house now, but still a wig when I am out and about. I wish I was brave enough to just walk around bald.... Mine is growing, it is just frustratingly slow. I still have leg hairs though, and some really really long eyebrow hairs that look so funny in an otherwise bald forehead....I won't pluck them though. Hair is hair! 

    "Significant Thinning" - I love that!!

    Michelle - my Onc said the Steroids were quite mood altering. You are also having them every week, I would say it could easily be the cause. And - I worry all the time too, I just try not to.

    Judy -  my dad won't even mention the "C" word, or ask about treatment, anything. Even after I was diagnosed he refused to acknowledge it. He kept saying "we don't know for sure" when we did. He actually rang last night - the first time since my last Chemo. Didn't even really ask how things were, just a perfunctory "how are you" when I answered the phone, then talked for 10 minutes about his job and the weather. I think it is too much for him, he can't handle it. His dad died of cancer (lung) when he was a teenager so maybe that is why it is so hard for him. I don't know, quite frankly it pisses me off - I just know it isn't at all helpful, and I do feel let down. Sorry, anti-father rant there.

    Anyhow, hope everyone has a good day. 

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited May 2009

    Hi Ladies,

    Just checking in.   Sorry for those still having to deal with s/e's.  I think everyone deserves that superwoman sign!

    I am back on a "normal" schedule.  Up at 6, out the door at 7 for my long commute to work.  Rads was done on Friday.  I just wish I had my energy back, but I guess I'm being impatient once again.  Still loosing fingernails from the dreaded Taxotere, thought it would stop at just 1, but now I am on my 3rd one.   Chemo-the gift that keeps on giving.

    Hang in there everyone!

    Sue

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited May 2009

    Sue - i saw some photos of you on the Hair forum - I can't believe how much you have already! Glad you are getting your life back. Just in time for summer.....

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited May 2009
    Hi Kerry-Thanks!   Although my eye lashes decided to say bye-bye this weekend.... how rude of them! Laughing  My underarm hair has finally come back, and my leg hair... well they never went anywhere!
  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Susan don't you wish you could pick what hair stayed around ?? 

    I managed to go out bike riding yesterday which was a blast but my legs where burning on the way home.  Yuck mouth is slowly leaving which I am grateful for but I started with an upset stomach this morning :(,  It's always something these days.  I will be skipping exercise today because of the weather.  I hope it will clear up tomorrow.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009
    Apple, I love your hair! And your supermom pics ... hee!

    So nice to see Jancie & Webbie again!

    Datadrudge, thanks for the heads up about the Tamoxifen. I start tomorrow, and my gut feeling was to take it before bedtime, just in case. Not looking forward to the hot flashes again. They've calmed down since the last treatment.

    And thank you for sharing your words about healing and putting yourself first. Very moving, and very wise.

    All you supermoms, I envy you. I'm like the ANTIsupermom. I have a 16 yr old who's pretty self-sufficient, a husband who shops and cooks, and still I've been an absolute slug for the past 5 months. Just trying to get back into my cleaning groove, trying to get my house back to the clean level I'm used to. Baby steps, though, I know.

    So glad that poor fishie survived!

    I just wish I could run away from this work stress (my boss leaving). It's horrible and awkward because his replacement (who i do NOT have high hopes for) is here now also and the tension is nerve-wracking. and it all just literally makes me sick, i have to hold in my tears & swallow the lump in my throat all day until I get home. I'm trying to do a little yoga, trying to walk more, found a good long book to get lost in, upped my Zoloft. i'm trying to take care of me, emotionally, but it's exhausting. I wish I could miraculously find a shrink like Gabriel Byrne from "in treatment". I don't have it in me to go shrink shopping. Keep telling myself it's time to leave this job anyway, I've been here too long and lord knows I need something much more challenging. Only thing is, who the hell is gonna hire a 49-yr-old cancer survivor with outdated software skills? And I don't even know what I want to do next. No more country clubs, no more administrative, no retail, no real estate ... ack. I need a life coach.

    I know beating cancer is the Thing That Matters Most, believe me. but still, this setback is rattling me to the core./end whine.

    (((everyone)))

  • Denali
    Denali Member Posts: 347
    edited May 2009

    Lisa, I've been thinking about going shrink-shopping too!  I've heard how difficult it is when chemo stops.  I know we all look forward to our LAST chemo.  But during chemo our lives are consumed with dr appts, caring nurses, chemo, side effects and their prevention.  It has taken over my life.  Then ieverything just stops after chemo.  I won't be having radiation, just Herceptin every 3 wks after my last chemo (next week). 

    I read one therapist asked her client to draw 2 circles.  In the first circle she was to divide it up with what her life was like before chemo/diagnosis.  In the second circle she was to divide it up with what her life was like after she began chemo. 

    When chemo is over we have to fill up those HUGE spaces cancer has consumed in our lives.  These days I find myself worrying more about recurrence.  Also, I feel like I'm so paranoid.  I think I notice one side of my stomach is bigger than the other side.  I imagine it's cancer, of course.  sigh.  Anyone else feeling like this??

    Maybe I need a shrink.

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Linda~ My Breast care center has a shrink and she is wonderful.  I think they are going to have to kick me out of treatment before I leave her.  I love her and we rarely speak about BC but I can talk thru everything that is on my mind. 

    Recurrence THING~ Yup everything is a new type of cancer and I mean EVERYTHING bug bite, lumpy expander, and hell taxotere pains cause me to cry non-stop because they gotta be bone mets.....It's horrible and between chemo 5 & 6 I had back pain that went away but has reared it's ugly head again after #6 and this is the only time that I have been convinced it has to do with my RBC and counts.  Oh and I have lost more weight which HAS to mean cancer....not the fact that I haven't been filling my face non-stop (dripping with sarcasam (sp)).  It's horrible and I hope I get better with this fear the farther out I get.  I know a couple other women here have shared this same fear so we are not alone and hey if we are we can pick a psych. ward together and be roomies :)

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited May 2009

    Hey! Add me to the psych ward!!! Ya'll have heard how nuts I am about mets! Sheesh... the anxiety.

  • webwriter
    webwriter Member Posts: 535
    edited May 2009

    I vote for Gabriel Byrne too!

    And I need at least a size 18 straight jacket please. Gotta make room for burnt boobie over here on the left. ;)

    I don't suspect everything is mets. I know it is.  I have a "premonition" sort of a feeling about it all, doncha know? I'm not afraid of getting mets, I'm sure I already have them and just don't know it yet. Sheesh. The head games we play with ourselves when something like this is going on! GRRRRR!!

  • Artemis
    Artemis Member Posts: 759
    edited May 2009

    susan13 ~ This: >>Chemo-the gift that keeps on giving.>> made me literally LOL!

    I still have no leg or underarm hair, so no shaving for me.  Yay!  That is one SE about which I will not complain.  The hair on my head is VERY slow-growing.  

    I'll join y'all in the Scared Of Mets Psych Ward.  Today my onc said that he'd talk to my surgeon about taking out my port during the mastectomy if I wanted him to.  I laughed and said, "You're more optimistic than I am!"
    Tongue out

    Hugs to all,
    Artemis

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Whoooo we have lots of company in the mets psych. ward :) 

  • Denali
    Denali Member Posts: 347
    edited May 2009

    You guys make me feel soooooo good!  Thank you, thank you, thank you!

    We'll take over the ward, redecorate and have our families sneak in chocolates and margaritas!

  • living4today
    living4today Member Posts: 215
    edited May 2009

    I second the THANK YOU to you all!!!  What a day brightner to know that you all are facing the same fears (although I wish none of us had them!)  Glad we can walk into remission together!!  Thanks again!

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Okay my day just went down hill.  They think my 2 kids have chicken poxes and my oncologist isn't calling me back fast enough so they are going to spend the night with a relative.   Grrrr....when they are gone my days are longer.......:(

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited May 2009

    Jaimie:  Oh no, that is so hard to have to separate from them while they're sick!  I'm sure they'll be in good hands, though.  Are they sure it is chicken pox?  My 11 yr old never got them, I refused the vaccine, it was really new then so I figured we'd just let him get chicken pox and get it over with...then he never got them.

    I'm off to chemo #8 in the morning.  I have 2 or 3 sores in my mouth, but after much deliberation decided to not mention it to my onc (whom I don't see tomorrow).  I don't want another chemo cancelled.  I want to get at least a few in a row before I get another break.  I bought something called Peroxyl by Colgate, it is supposed to help with the sores, has hydrogen peroxide.  Hope it helps.

    I think I posted those same fears a few pages back, of worrying about chemo coming to an end.  So I guess I'll join all of you in the psych ward, too!  You got more room???

    Hugs

    Judy

  • Gramof3
    Gramof3 Member Posts: 301
    edited May 2009

    The Ward:  Please, please save me a place.  I won't finish tx until the first of October, but I'll be ready to check in right after that.  I can just see us--chocolates, Denali tending bar, Nurse Ratchet dispensing Zoloft, Effexor, etc. 

    Has anyone else had port problems?  Last month, mine flipped over--I already posted that event, but last Friday, the nurse couldn't flush mine prior to tx.  She could inject the saline, but couldn't get the return.  Two nurses later, and after lying flat, then on my left side, then right side, the last nurse said she thought that a flap of skin might have grown over the far end of my catheter (I'm sure there's a name for it) and that meant it couldn't be used for the tx.  Nurse injected something into the port to free the blockage and then said we could use a periphial vein for the procedure. However,  then she discovered the phlebotomist doing my lab work had used my arm (as usual), so it couldn't be used.  Decided to use a vein in my hand, which promptly "rolled" then "blew."  Finally she was able to insert into another hand vein and start the IVs.  Geesh.   About an hour later, the port was clear, but by then my tx was over half done, so just continued.   Can hardly wait to see if it happens again this Friday.  Anybody else have this??

    Don't know about the rest of y'all, but I never could have imagined, just one short year ago, that I would be on such a bizarre adventure. 

    Remember when "port" made you think of a wine or a cruise??????  Take care, Helen

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited May 2009

    mouth sores?  I got some biotene drymouth gel.. it soooo helps.  i don't have thrush, my tongue dries out so much at nite, i get these red painful sores.  you might try some gcpmommom

    i feel really good this first nite... must be the weather.

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited May 2009

    I definately need a space in the mets psycho ward!  I try not to think of mets but I am such a realist that I know that this damm cancer can come back to haunt me years down the road.

    Tomorrow is my last Taxol treatment.  Thankfully the morphine pills have eased the pain but that hasn't helped with the emotional pain.  I haven't seen a therapist yet but I am going to a local support group that meets twice a month.  We met tonight since yesterday was a holiday.  I love these women and they have so much information and support to offer each and every one of us.

    I am on Zoloft but it hasn't been two weeks yet and I heard it takes at least 2 weeks for it to go into effect.  My sweet husband asked me to not take my steriods tonight until after the meeting at the church.  He knows that I am a totally different person on the steroids but that I really can't control myself as much as I would love to be able to.

    Apple - you crack me up!  Love the "S" on the avatar pictures!  That was probably 3 pages back. 

    I am so glad that I am not the only one here that worries about mets!

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited May 2009

    Yep, stick me in the ward too! I have a shrink who specialises in cancer patients - if anyone is looking for one, try and get a referral from your Onc. Mine just understands all the s**t I have gone through, and what my fears are. She is a great help. I cry a lot, but always feel better afterwards.

    Theres a great book called "After Breast Cancer" by Hester Hill Schnipper (shes a BC survivor) about coping with life after treatment which is a good read too. 

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Whooo Jancie for getting to the last one.  I hope roid-rage isn't too bad this time. 

    I didn't have to be seperated from my kids :)  My oncologist called me back and because I have already been exposed to the chicken pox virus I should be fine.  I also pinned him down while I had him on the phone and asked him about my echo and my pulse rate so it was another thing off my list.  What they are looking for is to make sure my ER doesn't further decline which is not expected.  Now I just need to make the darn appt. and find the slip for the appt. 

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited May 2009

    Helen:  I hate it when they have to repeatedly poke my veins....I am a big wimp, so by the time they are done, i need a xanax because I get so upset by the whole thing that my stomach gets all tied up in knots.  I hope today's nurse can get it in one try.  Sorry that you went through all that, ugh.  My DD's picc line has to have a clot-buster done every so often, and your line should still be clear next week.

    Apple:  thanks, I'll have to try that.  I almost bought some Vit. E. oil last night, it is supposed to help heal the sores, too....had it in my hand, but couldn't afford both the peroxyl and the Vit E this week... maybe next week

    Jancie:  Last tx today, congrats!!!  I can totally relate on the steroids, lol. 

    Anyone losing any nails?  My big toenail is slowly coming loose from the bottom up.  It is about 2/3 dead now, and sometimes it throbs.  But no sign of infection, which is good.

    Well, gotta shower and go to chemo.  Hugs to all

    Judy

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited May 2009

    If there's margarita's in the ward, I'm comin!

    Judy-I'm 10 wks out of chemo and my fingernails started to lift a few weeks ago. First they turned a funny color purple or something, now the purple has turned white.  I'm hoping the part that is still alive will grow and push out the dead part! OIE.

    Jancie-Hip hip hoooray for you! That was a long road!!!!!

    Sue

  • Denali
    Denali Member Posts: 347
    edited May 2009

    Jancie:  Congrats on your last chemo!  Amidst your celebration today you have to envision us all pole dancing with your IV, k?

    You all who have to be poked are so brave!  I'm such a wuss when it come to needles.  I love my port and would keep it forever if I could.

    Jaimieh:  So glad your kids can stay with you!  I was thinking the same thing--with the incubation period, you've probably already been exposed.

    I haven't lost any nails, but I have dark bands across some of my fingernails.  Did you have that before they lifted?  I went for a pedicure last wkend, so I can no longer see what's going on with my toenails.  Ignorance is bliss.   I'm soooooo hoping they stay on.  Such indignities we go through!

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