Starting chemo January 2009?
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I have no hair growing back yet--one week/one day.
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Now that I have " a little" hair growing back everyone asks me....."how do you think you hair will grow back"....."someone I knew had their hair grow back.....this way or that way...." I feel like say how the heck do I know.....I've never been through this before!!!
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I'm just one week and one day out from my last treatment and people are already asking me if my hair is growing back! I haven't even left my house yet from the last treatment (doctor's orders--too much swine flu in Texas).
My fingernails have ridges too and some discoloration. Haven't fallen off yet. The nurses said they might not. I wore "frozen" gloves during the infusion of the taxotere. But my toenails are fine.
I'm finally beginning to feel "human"-- have a lot of muscle weakness in my legs, tingling in my feet and some stomach issues. But I see light at the end of the tunnel and it doesn't look like a FREIGHT TRAIN!!!!
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lisalisa, yes, there is a tiny bit of nail underneath, but only close to the cuticle area.
this link has info about not using alcohol-based nail polish during chemo and why we should not get professional manicures or pedicures without stringent oversight (but that's not just for chemo - that's all the time):
http://www.cancercare.msu.edu/patients-caregivers/symptoms/nail-changes.htm
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I have done nothing to care for my nails throught this other than start cutting them super short a few weeks ago. I have always been bad about my nails. Just letting them grow in any old way and cutting when they start breaking. They definatly have ridges now and you can see very clearly which is pre chemo and which is after chemo on the nail. The pre chemo is about half way up my nail bed where it starts to not have cutile on its side and sort of goes flat and spreads out a bit. My nurse said that they did not look like they will fall off. We will see.
My hair never fell completely out and has been growing through the chemo. As someone else commented it sort of lays down now on the side. It is white and gray and maybe a 1/4 long, It actually needs some buzzing down so it will all be the same length again. It is a very manly look in my mind, but if I wear make up and smile I think I look OK bald. A lady in the boutique at the hospital complimened me on my head yesterday. She said it was my big blue eyes that make it work.
I am very tired this round so far, but doing better today than yesterday. I did drove DS to school and did grocery shopping. Even got most of it into the fridge before bumping my head on the freezer handle and taking a break to put some ice on it. Last thing I need is a painful bump under any wigs or hats I decided to wear. I also must have had some chemo brain in the store. I came home with two boxes of eggs, one box is a brand I never buy and I have no idea how it got in my basket. I also find I need to think carefully or I miss turns driving, even on routes I drive everyday. This afternoon I am going back for a accupuncture treatment. I neglected my complimentary treatments that last two rounds and need to go back to it.
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i've been getting mani/pedis each time. but, i bring my own supplies - all the implements, file, polishes, etc.
so, i don't think its any more risky than doing it at home!
when i was a teenager, i was so good at painting my nails. i've gone to a salon for so many years, that i'm just not that good at it anymore LOL! i can paint my fingernails....toe nails? no way!
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Both of my big toenails are both purple-y but my onc seems to think I won't lose them because it hasn't gone all the way down to the bottom of the nail. I guess since I have no more treatments it won't get any worse but will eventually grow out.
I tried to paint them and it was disaster. Franken-boobs all up in the way. I couldn't get close enough to them to see what I was doing. Now that I'm deflated a bit I might try again
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Hey Jewels:
Just one more Taxol next Friday! I can't believe it. I will have had 16 chemo treatments, and I am imaging never again! Today I fell asleep off and on and know I was snoring...nurse said I had a good nap. I'm trying not to nap at home, so that I'll go to sleep before 3 or 4 in the am (I hope!!!)
My radiation sim. keeps getting changed--now on 5-18, with follow up on 5-22, which makes me mad cuz I have a 4 day weekend and was hoping it would be the first without needing to visit the cancer center. At least they canceled this time to "upgrade" the machine. Whatever that means.
Ddlatt--whats tomoradiation (right phrase??) How is it different from other types. I don't even know what I'm getting, but I looked up the cancer center web info and they only have the tomo machine at Summit in Oakland, not Herrick, where I'm going. I 'm so nervous about lung and heart damage I almost feel like bailing out, although I know for me that would be crazy.
Fingernail issues--weird vertical thin brown stripes that I thought were splinters until PrincessKauai told me the same thing happened to her! My thumb nails are hurting. but not discolored. I think it might be more neuropathy.
I bought clear polish, as I heard that could help, but never used it. I don't paint my nails--last time my sister did it for me when I was in her wedding 14 years ago! My daughter said she'd do it for me, and has wanted me to for years. I just keep them short and scrub them when I get home from teaching to get rid of germs. I also use Burt Bees cuticle cream and almond honey hand cream since my hands are so dry.
For those going on an Ai--how did you onc decide which to use. I've read through some of the Hormone tread here, and they all sound terrible.
Was up til midnight consoling dd. I've got to get her a therapist. She can't get her homework done, although that's been an ongoing issue that has increased since my diagnosis, which happened the same time she started high school. I feel so sad. And today she went and paid for her own cartilage ear piercing, which I didn't think was a great idea. She's rewarding herself for doing well swimming, and I feel guilty for not paying for it. I'm really struggling with how negative she is about her looks--and she is so beautiful!!! (really--everyone says so!) and what girls do to feel good about themselves. Just saw the Dr Phil (ok--post tx veg out) where a 17 year old wanted to enhance her breasts!!! I just don't want my dd to get so caught up in that. Of course I guess I'm just an old hippy at heart.
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Nails- black streaks on the thumbs and white yuck on the big toes.
Hair--1/8" on my head- thought it was longer, but no it's not. It is white and very sparse looking.
I think I should shave it and as soon as I am done working I will go naked. I don't care. ( that is brave as I am gonna be.)
I had a great talk with the breast surgeon. She talked about my desire to take off my other breast, discussed the pros and cons and then said it is up to me. Next week I talk to the radiologist and we discuss the validity of radiating the axilla of my armpit. In addition, I talked toa U of Michigan doc who treated my mom and he connected me to a radiologist down there. They said they completely agree with the opinions and current tx I am undergoing. It felt SO GOOD to talk to another professional and get their ideas.
I truly believe our treatment needs to be an interactive, completely mutual and clearly understood process. We need to utilize all the tools out there, interact with as many professionals available to help us and tap into whatever resources -either man made or natural- to help us live long and healthy existences. Diagnosis needs to be more than an understanding; it needs to be innate, intuitive and continuous from the beginning wail , to the prepubescence roll of the eyes and continued as we learn to recognize our internal growth.
okay, so you probably think I am preaching to the choir, yeah, maybe....but you know, hind sight is pretty good these days. I had a great talk with the breast surgeon about how we can help women to cope ; I have been raising money for a local breast cancer center near by in my rural area. I thought maybe we should pay for a digital mammogram for women with dense breasts like me. The bs said the biggest push is to this day and has been for so many years is to educate women on how to tap into their inner self and begin to notice changes in their breasts and become self advocates. Not only do women need it know, so do so many around us. We need to fight the NOS from the insurance companies who won't pay for ultrasounds, we need to give funding to those women who are told no, and who just give up. In the area I live, women just don't do monthly breast exams and god forbid they pay for a mammogram. I am talking about women who make good money, but won't pay for insurance and skip mammograms. How can we help such women? I am into your ideas.
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Lisa--During tx's my cuticles receded, but that was about it. Now, two months after my 4 TC's (last one was March 6) I have four little ridges on my nails that look like tree trunk circles. Also, I never lost all of my eyebrows, lashes or hair. I keep waiting for the eyebrows to at least fall out, but no. Today I noticed that what did fall out of my brows has already started to fill in. So, there is some light in that tunnel. You'll see.
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Renrel, KM47 (and everybody else finishing up with chemo)... Congratulations!!
Like Lisa, I have not been in here alot lately, trying to "get on with life after chemo"....Lisa I have 4 horizontal lines on each fingernail which is weird but they are all still on so I'm grateful.... I have been having wicked hot flashes for months so I'm right with you guys there.. had my first Lupron injection (in my butt... you know surprisingly it didn't hurt) on Tuesday... Arimidex is on the menu next week.. wonder if the hot flashes will get even worse now .. hmmmm... will look into removing my ovaries in the Fall...
Sadly, I was all signed up for the bisphosphonate trial but I'm not going to participate now... time was not on my side... I went for my dental exam.. .got a thumbs up EXCEPT the dentist suggested extracting a tooth (or partial tooth) in back (long story, lost a tooth in my 20's) ... so I tried to hurry and schedule it because to participate I'd have to start the drugs on the 19th of May... well, needless to say... time was not on my side and I didn't feel I could heal in time so I bailed on the clinical trial... which was disappointing... but the dr said if I want she could try to get an rx through insurance depending on the results of my bone density scan (not back yet). Anyway...all that brought on some depression with me but I'm bouncing back again.... all things happen for a reason right?
Chemo ending is terrific but beware ladies for (maybe) some adjustment depression after it's over... during the chemo we're all just concentrating on making it through round 1, round 2, round 3, etc... but when it's done... the bigger hurdle is somehow figuring out how to "move on" and build a life without worry and embracing being changed forever in how you are seen by others and how you see yourself... does that make sense? Honestly, I've hit a wall a few times.. that combined with ovaries shutting down, etc... well.... it makes for some shaky emotional times....
Having said that.. it's all good... my hair is coming back, altho it's gray it seems.... and I leave for the beach in 2 weeks... life is good...
Happy Mother's Day Jewels!!! I hope each one of you has a terrific SE-free weekend.....
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Holtbolt--thanks for dropping in--good luck with the Armidex. It may be on my menu too. Don't know what the onc will recommend. Sorry about the trial--I'm hoping that with my below normal bone scan my onc will be willing to just prescribe zometa (still need a dental exam, but need to cross the chemo finish line first!) Sounds like so many Jewels are going through post-chemo blues and worries. Gad--I'm there and am not even post-chemo yet. have a GREAT TRIP!!! (Hope you found some worthy flip flops)
Jess--Thanks for your post. I've been thinking the same--I'm still obsessing about what I went through with diagnosis. I know I've increased awareness among my friends who are demanding ultrasounds and clinical exams with their mammos or ultrasounds. I do believe that fear of finding cancer was a barrier for me in doing GOOD breast exams consistently (sure, I felt around, and have to comfort myself that the professionals couldn't feel it at first til the MRI was done). There is a lot of education out there, but I think sometimes it's conflictual. One of my friends told me her OB gyn said don't bother doing self-exams--we find so many lumps that come and go. And a nurse friend of mine told me the same. And I think women fear what the mammos will find. How to get over that??? I think going with a buddy to mammo, or maybe even insurance mandating mammos for coverage? FOr women without insurance, then maybe some reward for going--coupons. In sf they just got funding for a digital mammo-bile (similar in concept to book mobile or blood bank mobile). This is such a public health issue in so many ways. Not contagious, but just as many women die each year of bc as yearly flu deaths. I do want to get involved more once I finish all my treatment. There's a nonprofit nearby for low-income women with cancer (not just breast), and also a Women's Cancer Resource Center that I at least want to donate to if I don't have time to get involved. Thanks for your thoughts. Keep me posted on your thoughts and plans. It's empowering to think about what can be done to help others.
So, steroid high again. Well I may be an old hippy at heart, but definitely not in practice! I realized this when I left the house to go for a walk this eve and forgot my hat! I had to go back to get one. I felt like I feel when I forget my bike helmet--vulnerable and naked. But in this case I also just didn't want anyone to see me!! I have not embraced the bald, as so many have here and on the thread by that name. Also I didn't want to get mosquito bites. Those buggers are all over now with all our recent rain and warm weather.
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BK---Hippy at heart but not in practice and the decadron high! That cracked me up. I like the idea of the mobile digital mammogram. I think there are some in the bigger cities in Michigan. I haven't seen one up here, but isn't that a good idea. perhaps my daughter's senior class (next year-yikes!) could sponsor a lab in our little town. I found it very interesting that my bs said radiologists don't like the digital mammogram. The digital picked up only ONE possible cancerous node and Ihad 5 masses. The mri showed my breast was filled throughout and it ended up being a lot less- 5 small: two dcis, one lcis and the other subtype of idc. The ultrasound picked up a maybe something that was later poohpoohed by the mammograms. All in all the cost of the dx is daunting.
I also put off the mammogram because of fear and each year it got worse.
Congratulations to those who are finished with chemo!!! AND to those almost done!!!!
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Good (early) morning, Jewels,
I had to chime in on the mammogram/self-exam thing. I find it remarkable that a doctor would say not to bother doing self exams. I wish I had been more dilligent about doing them! I was completely not scared to have mammogram and went for a baseline when I was 38. All clear. I even have the letter that says no cancer. 5 months later I found a 3cm tumor. Please don't misunderstand me, I think mammograms are very, very, VERY important. My point is self exams are too. If I'd have been doing them I surely would have found the lump earlier. It's my only regret in this whole debacle.
I hope everyone is feeling good today!
Diane
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Hi everyone, I haven't been here much recently because I have really been having a difficult time. I am feeling much better now because I have been unblinded in a clinical trial I have been participating in. I had a treatment on Thursday and I was getting the test drug, Avastin, but Thursday was my last dose. Thank God. The other ARM of the study would have required another 6 months of treatment every 3 weeks. I had mixed feelings about it for the last few weeks and began praying that if I was getting the drug I would be in this group. I couldn't bear the thought of going back after rads for another 6 months of chemo. I have 2 more Taxol the next two Thursdays and I am DONE WITH CHEMO!!!!!!!!!!!!
How good it is to say that. Congratulations to all of those who are close or finished. It is such a good feeling.
On the nail issue, all my nails have ridges. None have fallen out, but my big toenails are really tender. It's weird because my nails have never been very strong. Now I have 3 or 4 that are really hard and all the others are very soft and actually bending down towards my fingers. YUK!
I have my rads sim on 6/3. Another MUGA and EKG because of the clinical trial on 5/28.
I haven't had energy to move, much less exercise through this entire 5 months of tx. I am hoping some of that energy returns during rads.
For some reason I woke up at 4 AM and can't go back to sleep. I will try again in a bit. Don't think it would be the steroid since I had that on Thursday morning.
Good night everyone. You are all awesome and it is so good to know there are others out there to help us through this. Lots of love to all the Jewels.
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Computer on chemo...keeping freezing...gotta make this quick. Freak week at work....many relentsly questioning women of limited analytical ability having emotional meltdowns. Fun if I can detached. BF is two years sober right after I finish chemo. He has really gone for it and is succeeding grandly! He's really quite an extraordinary guy. I am so happy and proud. We can actually resolve issues once in a while! I never dreamed. Moved into this rented home after dx...using steroid rush to fix up the yard...major improvement...looks like a nice place to live. I planted yesterday. Since BF is sober and I have not had a sip in two yrs either. I will probably celebrate when I am done in two weeks by having wine with dinner with his sister. She's quite the drunk and it should be fun for one night. I she's actually really smart and cool so it's tragic about her problem. She has taken me to all my chemos....hung over, at least, for most of them. We get along swimmingly and I look fwd to a night out. Chemo going just fine. Two more Fridays!!!! Can't try to post to idividuals......this thing is sure to freeze up on me. Did a virus scan and 3 were cleaned...ugh. I'll have to ask my friend Mary to look at it.
Since posting so much have decided to take a course in grammar. I'm don't speak white trashy like I did when I was a kid but there is a lot of room for improvement.
We can do it!!!!! Love and hugs to all.
Nancy
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Oy - my last message is barely readable. Oh well. I am using a computer at the library. I meant to mention that yesterday at chemo I went bald. I see women wearing scarves there but have never see anyone show a naked head. The men seem to have hair. Anyway, one very well put together women stared at me quite a bit and I enjoyed that. I also drove around in my car bald for a while. It is getting hot here.
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Good am. My dd's cartilage piercing looks so cute. With her emotional break down of the night before, my watching the damn dr. phil, and me feeling so poked and prodded, I just overreacted (not to her, but in my head). With the pain she's having I don't think she'll do another! I remember I got mine pierced when she did because she didn't want to do it alone when she was 8!
Shocked and Jess--The mammo didn't work for me either, and I wish too that I'd been more comfortable with really digging in there (the breast) and getting to know it. I wish I'd been trained on one of those fake boobs with lumps. My breasts would change every month, though, and my tumors were "hiding out" in the dense breast tissue. But I think I've read that mammos pick up around 80% of bc's--but not ours damn it. My neighbor just accidently found a lump while showering and can't get an ultrasound appt for 2 weeks! I can't believe the waits we have to go through. Oh--and I catch myself feeling for lumps when my fake boob is on. Gads.
Brenda--Hooray!! Just want you wanted-Arm B. I hope you start to feel better now that you're not getting it. I think Avastin can really affect the RBCs. 2 more!!!
YearoftheHat--Congrats to your bf. I know it's so hard, a real life and death struggle, and I'm glad you both are winning, Have fun with your own celebration! Hope your friend can fix the chemo computer--you always make me laught. I did drive while bald after my hike the other day. Windows down, wind blowing through my stubble. Felt great.
Going out to early mother's day lunch with dd and dh, but we do it every other week anyhow! HOpe I feel up to seeing dh's mom tomorrow and maybe my dd at college nearby. But I can't predict Sundays. Was still up to 4:30 am even without a nap. Darn.
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY to mommy Jewels. I'm counting my blessings for sure.
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Diane, I agree, self-exams are a must! I am only 33 with no breast cancer history in my family so I wasn't getting mammograms at all, I probably wouldn't have started getting those for years yet. If I hadn't found my lump when I did, who knows how long it would have been there. Mammograms are great, but women need to start getting to know their breasts and looking for changes early on, even before it is ever recommended they get routine mammograms.
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Jilly G---That is a great point. We have to start self exams at a young age.
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berkeleykim - here's the link about tomotherapy radiation:
it's a new kind of radiation machine and, from what i understand, a new way of radiation, more precise, and images the tumor site in such a way as to allow the radiation to go exactly to that point and nowhere else. the one at the hospital here is new and has been in use only two months. i'm really shocked that we have it here, considering that the medical oncologists here that i've met are years behind in their knowledge about clinical trials and how to treat breast cancer. but thank goodness the radiology oncologists here are more advanced.
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HAPPY MOTHERS DAY TO ALL THE MOTHERS ON THE BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi all,
Today I walked the Revlon Women's Cancer walk at the coliseum in LA. It was AMAZING! My team was called "Team Mom", Moms on a Mission. There were 45 of us. I raised over $1,500 and all together we raised over 15 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
I got my first survivor hat....though it is REALLY ugly. I met some AMAZING women on the way. The hardest part was seeing KIDS walking with signs on their backs saying their were walking in memory of their moms....or seeing people with "in memory" of signs with birthdates after my birthdate. omg. TRAGIC.
But, overall it was an AMAZING experience and I'm doing it again next Mother's Day weekend. We got medals from hunky firemen afterwards, snacks and even a concert...Michael Bolton, Melissa Manchesters and others.
So, I'm EXHAUSTED. It was only a 5K but lots of other walking from the parking lot and then up/down the stairs of the coliseum, etc. I'm SO out of shape!
Off to bed. Hope all the Moms on this thread have a WONDERFUL MOTHER'S DAY!!!!
hugs,
Lisa
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Lisa--Sounds like a great experience! What a day. Congratulations on your success. I know a bc survivor who did a lot of those walks at first but the signs got to be too much. That must be hard to see.
Ddlatt--thanks for the tomotherapy link. I'm planning to call my rad onc to ask about it, and my med onc. too.
Again, Happy Mother's day to the mommy Jewels! I feel so lucky to have 3 beautful blessings.
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Happy Mother's Day to all. I got flowers and breakfast-nice quite in bed- but a nice meal made for me by my daughter.
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HAPPY MOTHERS' DAY TO ALL......
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Happy Mother's Day!!!
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Hello Jewels: Happy Mother's Day to all you moms!!
I have two rads done and 28 left to go. Have drivers 4 days this week, so only one day I'll have to drive myself. I was so exhausted after the first two, but recovered and have had good energy this weekend. On the up side.. I slept really really good those two nights. -- something I haven't done in months. I also had a realy busy work week - I'm hoping that is why I was so tired and not the radiation fatigue they talk about.
Am almost a month out of chemo overall I feel great! - taste buds are returning
- hair is not
. Still have neuropathies in my feet and fingertips. Finger nails are in rough shape. Fluid retention yet. But all in all, it's better than the FLS days after chemo. I see my med onc this week. Will discuss the biophosphanate study and learn more about what AI I will take. Seemed like it would take forever to get to this point... and here I am.. gratefully. Am glad to start rads as to get them done, but I think a break between would have had it's advantages too. Feels like it will take a little while before I feel my old self.
To all of you still having chemo -- hang in there -- it will be over soon! To the rest of you Jewels -- please stop back at least once a month to stay in touch --- we've been through so much together -- let's stay connected as we move forward.
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kt57: I agree, we should keep in touch. Started the Tamox today. Overall, however, although the neuropathy is bad, the myopathy is improving and life just seems good. I look around so many days and just am plain so happy to be alive and enjoying it. The chemo almost killed me, just hope it did its job while it was doing it--because I want a lot more days.
Thinking often of those of you still finishing your course of chemo. Hugs to all of you.
For those of you in radiation, hugs to you too.
Hang in there jewels.
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Good morning ladies. Sorry I didn't blog in to wish all of you a Happy Mothers Day. I was in the ER all day on Mothers Day. I mentioned last week I wasn't feeling well. Very dizzy and shortness of breath. Talked to my onc. Fri. and she said if I didn't feel better Sat. to go to an Urgent Care Center. So I did. They took a bunch of tests and said I had a respiratory and urinary traxct infection, gave me 2 prescriptions and sent me home. I felt like crap all day Managed to take some pics of my daughter and her date for prom. She looked beautiful. Tried to lay down for awhile. I felt terrible when I woke up Sun. Called the answering service (my onc wasn't on call). A doctor called me about 15 min. later and told me to get to the ER. I didn't want to go cuz it was Mothers Day and we planned on cooking on the grill. So I woke my daughters up. They had gifts for me. My older daughter got me a necklace and earrings and a gift card to ULTA (hope I can use it sometime soon, no lashes to work with). My younger daughter painted me a ceramic piece that said mother on it and she hand stitched me a quilted lap blanket. She's only 14! When I read the cards they gave me, I broke down and cried, knowing that I may be admitted to the hospital. I had told them it might happen. That was the first time I cried since finding out about my bc in Jan. I just got so emotional. So I got ready and when they were getting dressed, I was waiting in the dining room with my DH and broke down crying again. I'm just tired of feeling like crap after I have a treatment. I know I only have 2 more to go, but it seems like I get sick after each one.Anyways, went to the ER and had a lot of tests done, blood ,ekg, cat and everything came out normal. My wbc were very high and blood pressure very low but they put me on saline and I was there for 4hrs and guess what? I was dehydrated again! That was all that was wrong with me.I was able to go home. Didn't cook out. I was drained, so we had Mr. Hero for our dinner. LOL . I'm feeling much better today. A little weak, so I'm going to take things slow. As for the nails. my toes hurt alittle. I was taking polish off the other day day and they are very tender. My fingernails are ok so far. Hope all of you have a good week.
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