Starting chemo January 2009?
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lisalisa- I cast my vote, good luck sweety.
Hi Jewels, sending healing energy to all.
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lisalisa---I voted again! teehee!!!
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THANKS FOR ALL THE VOTES Jewels! Keep them coming! The contest ends May 1st!
Much of the decision is based on the "essay" but public appeal (votes) counts too!
If I win, I'll thank you all at Dodger stadium
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Hey Jewels:
Joining everyone in swine flu worries. Gads--at work I'm so surrounded by coughing, sneezing, wheezing kids (and adults). I asked my husband to buy some masks at the local pharm, but they're out!!! I really don't want to wear one at works, but will if my onc advises so.
There's confirmed flu in a nearby school district (about 15 mi away).. I'm taking zinc lozanges (onc said ok). I'm really too busy to stay home, and work is helping to keep me sane--really keeps my mind in a better place. My WBCs are w/in normal range, so I'm going to try to keep my fear level under control.
Of course, swine flu fear is trumped by my recurrence fear, which I can't seem to vanquish for more than a day or two. 3 more chemos--I feel like I'm doing something now. I hope I'll feel the same when I start the hormone supressent. I'll have radiation, but that's for local recurrence. Jilly--I think you'd mentioned seeing a counselor. I'm gong to talk with my social worker and bring it up at my support group next week. I can't talk with my husband about it too much--it makes HIM so worried, and since he had a stroke last year I need to keep the stress level down. What I need to try to do is look at the glass as half full, which I usually do but I'm having a hard time with this bc.
Going to try to walk as far as my aching legs will carry me. I need the fresh air.
Hugs to my dear Jewels. A few of you are crossing the chemo finish line this week! HOORAY!
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Jrgolomb-- Lancaster is about 60 miles south of Hegins. Is most of your family from the Lancaster area since the reunion is there?
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Well, just as I was headed out for my walk my clinical trial director called to say I was on the placebo arm of the avastin trial. Have mixed feelings.
Trial director asked me if I'm still considering the bisphosphonates trial. I am, but my onc is out of town and I'm leaning toward getting him to agree to prescribe Zometa. I don't know if my insurance will cover it though.
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Kim - I'm sorry you didn't get the arm of the study that you wanted!
I never thought about looking into whether my insurance will cover Zometa. ack! Must do that! Do you know if its really expensive? (what am I thinking...all of cancer is expensive isn't it!?!?)
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I read on anther thread that someone said the zometa was around 1200/treatment.
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Hey Jewels! It's been a while. It's great to read of so many Jewels coming towards the end of their chemo.
LisaLisa...just voted for you! If they could only read your postings here on this site, then there would be NO QUESTION as to whom they should choose. NONE! Your essay was pretty damned impressive. You should get this. I want you to get this.
About the meltdowns...Have them. Throw yourself into them. The amount of stress we have subconsciously repressed for ourselves, our loved ones...random strangers... It needs an outlet. My fourth week after my final TC treatment and about a week before rads were to start, I was an emotional wreck. I could only envision the negative outcomes to anything and I went from zero to sixty in seconds flat in what I imagined could be/go wrong with almost everything. Intellectually, I knew I was driving myself nuts for no reason, but I couldn't stop it, which made me feel even worse and wondering if this was my new reality. My energy levels were the lowest they had ever been on chemo and I had zero appettite. I live alone, so there was no one to make me food, and I couldn't find myself to be bothered. At the time, all I had any interest in was watching the Travel Channel, FaceBook and this website. The only thing I didn't have apathy for was the fear that I was heading into this self-feeding decline, both mentally and physically. Trying to explain this to people on the phone just sent me into tears of frustration and...well, fear. I also lost seven pounds in the course of a week. So, you see, I wasn't in the best of places. I kept thinking of my surgeon and my onc saying how well I had fared through chemo. "Sailed through" was one phrase that almost taunted me. Here it was so far past my last chemo and this was the time I should have been really feeling good and healing before I headed into rads. The way I was feeling, I seriously doubted I could have managed to have made it to the hospital everyday for tx.
But it passed.
Even typing it all out here, I am amazed at what a bad place I was in at that time. I was able to get my diet back on track. I also had to have two wisdom teeth pulled since one broke and then turned black during chemo. I think I may have been infected from that since my energy levels started to improve almost the day after I started antibiotics. But I digress...
As we near the end of chemo, it's hard to say all the things we managed to compartmentalize from the moment we were diagnosed. And chemo is SUCH a big deal that we have all had our own demons with it. It's been hammered into us from all directions. I can remember watching Terms of Endearment as a kid and having the image of the dinner party scene where someone whispers something like "she's got cancer..." Whether we admit or not, we all got hit with something that is easily most people's biggest fear if not just our own...and we are dealing with it. It's HUGE psychologically. We all know that we have worn that positive face if only to allay other's fears about us, and it's worked at helping us get through the worst parts of it. But having the crying jags helps too, believe it or not. Stress hormones are released through our tear ducts. Sometimes that's the only way they can.
I feel for everyone that is having the meltdowns. It was the one thing that really sort of broke me in my treatment. But it turned out to be a temporary thing. You'll see. And if you feel you need to speak to someone, then do so. But I found that just being on these boards and knowing that I wasn't a freak for how I was feeling, that there were others who had seen the other side of whatever I was going through helped to put the freak outs in perspective.
Not to mention that our hormonal systems have been given such a thwack, that it's no wonder we can't control some of the thoughts we have. It took me 10 days to do taxes that normally take a weekend tops. Mentally, we're not at our strongest. Acknowldege your fears, but also try to remind yourself that you're not in the best mental state to be giving it serious thought either way. Ever since I started chemo waaaaaay back in January, the two phrases I've heard the most in my head have been my onc's voice saying "blame it on chemo..." and Scarlett O'Hara's "I won't worry about that now, I'll think about that tomorrow."
There is no standard timeline for recovery physically or mentally. We all have seen that already. And mental side effects are an important part of this. We'd be inhuman if we didn't have the fears that we have. It's never going to leave us, but it does get better. We're all such strong women, we're just a bit compromised right now mentally. I tell my friends that right now I'm an easy target for mockery with my chemobrain, but to watch out because this time next year, I'll be back to my full capacity and I won't let them get away with what they're getting away with now. Of course it's all in jest, but you know what? I should tell myself this more often as well. This time next year, I won't be such an easy target for the emotional fears. And I know that it's true.
Okay, that was so much more than "my two cents" that I had planned on posting. But with the economy the way it is, it'll probably only spend about as far as the two cents would have anyway.
Catherine
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Thanks Catherine. I needed to read that.
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LisaLisa - I just voted.. great essay!! Good Luck!!
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lisa - I cast may vote!
jrgolomb - happy birthday gives them a good scrub and is a mood lifter besides. When I am done with chemo I'd like a few rounds of hip hip horray and to be tossed in the air.
ddlatt - my neuropathy is getting worse. I will ask about atarax tomorrow when I go in for treatment. Sorry to hear about the liver enzyme error. I'd be furious too, but I am glad to hear hear you are feeling well over all.
Jilly - I have heard there is some adjustment time after chemo. If you feel the meltdown was out of control, I always support seeking professional advice just to see if someone can offer helpful insights. I always come away from therapy with an improved tool bag even if I find the therapist isn't completely to my liking. I would guess though that you may just need to give it some time. You've been on Tamoxifen just about a week now, right? That could be contributing. It may take a while for your body to get used to it. I'll be starting that in about a month. How is it going?
Renrel - I am with you.....I am somewhat uncomfortable with negatives but believe firmly that we need to acknowledge all our feelings, including sadness and anger. A cleansing cry always feels really good to me.
I always feel I have nothing to report. I am just gritting my teeth, trying to get through this. I will not have rads but will start tamoxifen. I have a wait and see attitute about that. The hair is growing. I look like a cancer patient. I can say definitively I am in the worst shape of my life. I am just trying to be patient with this and hope I can get somewhat back to normal when I am done. Had a discussion with DBF last night about escaping from the Midwest. I think he's more comfortable that he'd like to admit. I am glad we talked about it though.
Have a great Thursday jewels!
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Hello Jewels: Tomorrow we turn the calendar to another month -- we sure have been through alot since January.. The other night I was having trouble sleeping and of course I log onto the boards and see what everyone is up to -- and I decided as long as it was 3AM with no sleep in sight, I would go back to the beginning of this board - I need all your names for my Relay for Life shirt so it was a good time to copy and paste them all -- wow was that a trip. It is clear to me that WE ARE ALL SURVIVORS and we can be proud of ourselves for getting through this!!
Renrel: Hope you are enjoying the visit with your parents ----- $600 - you go girl! Nothing like a little retail therapy to boost the spirits. DId a little myself this week.
Got new flip flops, Holtbolt. Getting ready for the beach! (Also lessens the neuropathy on the toes).
PLUTZ: Good luck with #2 - may your SEs be few!!
Pam: I find pushing anything - vacuum and shopping carts esp, to be really tiring and make both arms sore (the surgical side and the port side). Can't wait to get this upper body back into shape!!
BevR and Jess: If my chemo brain is working correctly, I believe today is your LAST chemo! YIPPEE YAHOO!!!!!! Hope your SEs are few! I am on Day 15 of my final round and I feel great!
ddlat: and I believe your FINAL chemo is tomorrow... DITTO - YIPEE YAHOO!!!
In the right context, FINAL and LAST can be such wonderful words!!!
Lisa: I've been voting up a storm -- as have my friends and family!! Good Luck!
I had my rad onc consultation and simulation on Tuesday -- so this meerkat is set to start radiation. He wanted to start on Monday, which was earlier than I thought being that I am only 2.5 weeks out from my FINAL (great word!) chemo..... he said, given how well I'm doing, I am ready. However, I am getting my port out on Monday (YEEHAA!) so he thought it best we give that a couple days to heal -- so it looks like Thursday I'll start my daily 140mi round trip adventures in extreme tanning
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On another "popular" note -- I am the "Swine Flu Queen" of our hospital today -- our Infection Control Nurse and Emergency Preparedness expert are both out of town, so all the questions are coming to me. What fun! WI had it's first 2 confirmed cases (In Milwaukee - 400 mi away). If you want accurate up-to-date info, go to the Centers for Disease Control website - www.cdc.org It has the most reliable information. Currently, the H1N1 (swine flu) virus seen in the US is a mild strain that is effectively treated with anti-virals. That said, the CDC experts have no way of knowing (yet) if the swine flu (H1N1) virus will mutate(change) as it is spread from human to human - making it more or less severe.... that is what the public health agencies have been monitoring very closely. Worse case scenario is that it mutates into a strain that is no longer killed by anti-virals. So Jewels, it's good thing we have been "bug-phobic" -- we know about handwashing and disinfecting and staying away from crowds/sick people.
Take care everyone!
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LisaLisa, just voted. Good luck. Essay was fantastic. Kim, as I told you on the other thread, I will find out Thursday where I fall in the study. I, like you, have mixed feelings.
I had my consultation with the radiation oncologist on Monday. Same as LisaLisa, they will make a mold of where I will be positioned. I will have blasts to the chest wall as well as the lymph nodes that are into clavicle area. I had 5 positive nodes of 22 taken, so he wants to be sure he gets them all.
Kim, I have also been having recurrance thoughts. I guess it is something we will carry in our thoughts forever. Try not to let it take over your thoughts, though. You are tough. You got through all this. There is not much we can do except deal with it if and when it happens. It may be a bit easier for me since I am older (63), but I have realized that we have to deal with things as they come. My Dad was a worrier. If there was nothing valid, he would manufacture something. Drove me insane. My Mom, on the other hand always just took one day at a time. I lost her much too early in my life, (I was only 36) but I also took much from her outlook on life and her way of dealing with problems. I really miss her now because I know she would have so much to tell me that would help with this journey. Sending hugs and positive thoughts.
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I'M FINISHED----YAHOOOOOO----SE's haven't kicked in yet, just the "chemo fog" that I get after the treatment. I'll sit in my recliner, watch TV and snooze this evening. Who knows what tomorrow will bring......but right now I feel very happy that I am finished with this part of the "journey."
Wishing everyone a SE free weekend......
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Bev - HUGE CONGRATS to you for finishing chemo. Rest up and drink lots!!! woohoo!
Kathy - I had my simulation today. I go back on May 12th for a trial run and May 13th for my first "real" treatment....is that a Friday!?!? I need to check that LOL!
Brenda - I think our rads will be similar, I had 6/17 nodes that were cancerous.
ALL Jewels - thanks for the votes!!!! I'm now in 3rd place. VOTE OFTEN lol! The link is at http://caringbridge.org/visit/lisamittleman
Look for me in the pink hat....TRUE BLUE LISA
you're the best!
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Got my vote today Lisa!
Trying hard to enjoy my visit in Texas but keep thinking about how close to Mexico I am and how I will have to get on an airplane at the end of the week to get home and who knows what will be flying around in the air on the plane. Thanks for the link Kathy. We do need somewhere to go to get reliable Swine Flu info as the media loves to dramatize things.
CONGRATULATIONS on finishing up Bev. I am so happy for you.
Yearofthehat: If I am not mistaken you should be finishing up soon too! I have skipped this week to be here (should of had tx today) so I will now not finish up until June 18th. As we turn to another new month on this journey I can not believe that it has only been 5 months since first chemo tx. Seems like this has been going on FOREVER!
I am finding that I am soooo tired this week that my time here is not has much fun as it should be. I actually felt better when I came last time which was right after I was released from 8 days in the hospital for dble pnuemonia. I have a slight neuropathy going on in my fingers and toes but that it not a real bother yet, but the lack of energy is really really annoying. So much I want to do so little energy to do it with! Makes me MAD
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Will check back later. Hope you all have a good week/weekend.
Patti
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Patti - I know what you mean about the swine flu thing! I had to go to the hospital today for my radiation simulation and I was actually getting a little panicky in the elevator with so many people. The hospital just seems like a BAD place to be during this outbreak.
And...I'll be there everyday starting May 12th. ack! I'm in So Cal....which is too close to Mexico for my taste too. My family (Mom, siblings) all live in San Diego....scarily close to the border (maybe 10 miles).
All of us with our compromised immune systems need to be even more careful!
Lisa
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ohyeahohyeahohyeah
I am done!!!!!!!!!!! It dripped in so fast though, I was outta there by 3pm. My students made a card for the cancer center and thank the nurses, the doctor and the nursepracticioner for taking caring of me. Then they signed it and all drew a picture. It was very cute. My friend took a picture of me with the doctor and np and cn. I will try to get her to send to me to send to you!
Yes, I am concerend about the n1n1 flu. We have 2 confirmed in Michigan, probably more by now. One is a county away. I am like Bkim-I have to go to work not only for financial reasons, but I just feel better doing it. My hemoglobin was lower than usual, so I hope that isn't a bad sign.
Thank you all so much for responding and expressig your thoughts. I truly find this thread has been an emotional life saver for me.
Okay, who is doing the relay for life? AND any thoughts about meeting up in Las Vegas in September with the Ta ta sisterhood group gathers? Just a thought...........
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Hurray for more Jewels crossing the finish line of chemo!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ditto!!!! Congratulations ladies!
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Jess - WAY TO GO!!!! so happy for you! I hope we get to see your photo!
I JUST posted on the ta ta thread for vegas. I told them a few of us jewels may want to join them. let's do it!!!!
lisa
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I already added myself to the Vegas list, but I'm in a room with three (and I'm certain are fabulous) other women I don't know from the boards that I've read...and my sceen name is totally wrong on the list so I'm sure they're wondering who I am. So, if any of you are thinking of going and need potential roomies, lemme know!
Catherine
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BevR & Jess: HOORAY!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! 2 more jewels cross the chemo finish line. Hope you both recover quickly!
YearoftheHat--We're off to the chemo bar tomorrow! Almost there...gritting my teeth with you!
Brenda-can't wait to hear what arm you're on. You mom sounds like mine--don't borrow trouble is what she's always said to me--I;ve been a worrywart since I was little! I have my ups and downs with the recurrence worry. Today I was fine. I guess I should start worrying about my kids again instead.
How long does the rad sim take, Lisa and KT57. Hope not more than 2 hours, or I'll have to reschedule.
Tired tonight--hiked after school then went back for our Asian heritage night. Kids were so cute performing and we had a real lion dancing team. Night to all.
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Catherine - i'm happy to room with you in Vegas. we may even be able to fly together!
Kim -my sim took about an hour from start to finish. They said it used to take longer but they have it "down" now. Plus, for me, there were 4 radiologists/techs all working together to take measurements, do tattoos, etc.
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Congrats to those finishing, and best of luck to you starting radiation.
Ladyjane, sorry to hear the fatigue is getting you down, but hope holding that beautiful baby is helping
Catherine, I'd love to join the Ta TA girls in Vegas, just don't think I can get the time off of work. Everyone has been great with my time off iwth things, but they're all ready for me to be back and I don't think vacation is in my future for awhile (not that time off for chemo and surgery was fun and games)
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Hi ladies. Had #2 taxotere this morning. My doctor lowered the dosage because I had such a hard time with it last time. Hoping the s/es won't be as bad. Feel pretty good today. Tired. On the decadron thing. Was up till 3 in the morning. Managed to get 3 hours of sleep. Was going to take a nap but I don't seem so tired at the moment. I like taking my nap after dinner. Go in for the neulasta shot in the morning, so my weekend is pretty well shot. Oh well, its supposed to be a chilly weekend. Catching up on some shows I taped.
Went to an artshow at the mall Thursday evening for the high school students. My older daughter had two of her paintings on display. I am so proud of her. Shes attending college in the fall to study art therapy. I think she will do very well.
Well, going to get some rest. Hope all of you have a great weekend.
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Hey there Jewels,
So I met with my radiation oncologist yesterday. Turns out my fake tatas are too large for them to be able to get to the spots they need to get to (I'm not having radiation on the left one but it is "in the way") so I have to have the SOBs DRAINED!!!! I'm not sure how much yet. The good news is, the skin and muscle is stretched enough that I probably won't have to have them refilled. That is also the bad news as I will now have floppy tits through the majority of the summer!
To add to the fun, I was supposed to have my port taken out today. Here's where the robo-rack strikes again as it is directly under the port so they would have to make an additional incision way up high so as not to poke a hold in the tissue expander. Guess what? It didn't come out. I'm waiting for the deflation.
I'm frustrated beyond belief but thinking that maybe God has decided that this is only set back I'll have and then I'm done. Forever
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Congratulations to everyone finishing up!! My last tx was 3/24 and I am slowly but surely feeling sort of normal, although I need to step it up on exercising.. I'm draggin my feet....The hair is coming in... but it looks GRAY!! Ahhh!! Oh well, it's hair! I just booked a week in Florida starting 6/5 and I'm really looking forward to it but it just occurred to me that I have to find a mastectomy swimsuit (no recon here... yet). Now there's uncharted territory.... flip flop shopping is much easier. Whatever!! Maybe I can tan this stark white head of mine!!
If the Ta Ta Vegas trip is in September... I think I might be able to do that... that would be fun! Where's the link for that?
Hope everyone has a great weekend!!!!
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BevR & Jess - Congratulatns on finishing up! That has got to feel great. I am right behind you!
ddlat - got my hard copy of SFmag April '09. Wow! Gorgeous and great article!!!
I had Taxol #9 a few hours ago. A sort of strange and awkward thing happened...it also happened last week but I wasn't sure if it was treatment related until it happened again. While the nurse was pushing the decadrom in from a syringe, my crotch started to burn! It was like a rash flash or something, very intense but went away within about a minute. I was hesitant but I told the nurse that my rear end was on fire. She said it can happen to people who are very sensitive to decadron and that there is a "sort of crude" name for it. She gave me a long look to see if it was OK to say...."We call it hot box syndrome". Yup, that's crude alright. I googled it and found nothing. Anyway, I'm glad it's nothing to worry about.
Had to drive myself home today. That was OK, I took side streets and crawled like a turtle.
The hair is still growing. My hair is so transparent, it barely looks like anything is there yet. My fingertips are much more numb. I wonder if I will loose my nails. I hope not!
I asked about meds for neuropathy and the nurse said nothing could be given for the tingling, only for pain. I didn't pursue it. It isn't affecting my ability to function and I'll be done soon enough anyway.
Three more Fridays and I'll be done, done, done. I am anxious about the Tamoxifen but again, plan to give it a fair chance. I bought a bunch of stuff to cook some super clean healthy meals over the weekend. At the co-op I ran into my step-niece whom I've never really gotten to know that well and we gave each other a great big hug. She is finishing up a semester at school and just got signed to some Midwestern record lable. She is very excited. It was nice to see her. I am looking forward to good nourishment. Just about cleaned out the cupboards again with a decadron binge. I will try to stick to water for the rest of the night.
Take care everyone. Rest and be well.
Nancy
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