How do I do this? Living with uncertainty,desperate
I am not sure if this is the place to write this.I am in a very bad place right now.I think of cancer when I go to sleep, when I wake up and it invades my dreams.
I was supposed to have a very early breast cancer,I had radiation and lumpectomy.I finished about 6 months ago.No one in my family knows what dark thoughts I have.I feel like I will always be waiting for the other shoe to drop.My radiation onc told me to quit smoking or I would DIE. I guess I am going to because I cannot stop smoking.
I think everyone is lying to me.I cannot talk to my psychiatrist at all, because I think he is in on it.I have to go to my family doctor the start of May, he put on the slip to "discuss tests" I haven't had any tests in months.I assume either he wants to tell me they found mets in the radiation x rays, OR to tell me how many times a year to have a mammogarm.He did say he had no idea what the follow up should be.
I just feel like hiding,I stay in my house with my dark, dark thoughts day after day. I only work on weekends.I have terrible thoughts.I am so unsure of what to do.
I don't want any follow ups, its all BS to me.I was not supposed to have this cancer.I am early 30's and feel like my life is over.I will never be able to get over this.I am starting to feel very paranoid and antsy.
I put on a great front.
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Newday - I am so sorry you are feeling this way. When you see your doctor let him know and maybe he can perscribe an anti-anxiety or anitdepressant. The feelings are a normal part of the process but if it they are causing such issues or go on too long - you may need a little help in calming your fears and uncertainty. Good Luck and HUGS to you.
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I am on an anti depressant, Ativan and trazedone.I have been on high doses since I was diagnosed.Its not helping.
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New - I'm so sorry that you are suffering like this. If what you're on isn't helping, then you need to go on something different! These drugs are more hit or miss than many, because, it's difficult to tell how an individual will react to the different combination of meds. Most doctors have to adjust and/or chage the 'scripts to get the most benefit.
Please don't give up. Make a phone call and let them know you need a different regimen.
Good luck.
Susan
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Newday1976
I have to ask... are you having any suicidal thoughts? If so go to the emergency room right now and tell them. They will help you right away. It could be that your dose is actually too high.
I understand the big NO FAIR! I have been there too. Please keep talking about your feelings here. Everyone here can relate and we all are willing to help you.
Merilee
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How I came to grips with the uncertainty: This was the hardest part for me. I had a double mastectomy to decrease my risk of a reoccurrence. I hated that this was out of my control. Then, I realized to a great extent it could be. So I started thinking "what can I control?" Then I went about making those things happen
I take tamoxifan everyday which helps reduce risk. On top of that I eat organically and force myself to exercise every day. I make sure that I get some laughter. I have enlisted my friends to send me humor. I have filled my house with plants to make sure that I am breathing good air. I avoid too much sugar, soy, food dye and another things that are not good for me. I have come to think of my food as my medicine.
Do I have complete peace of mind? No but taking these steps have greatly improved my mental frame of mind. I feel good, people tell me I look great and I know I am doing every thing in my power to not let Cancer win. It feel much better than the fretful state I was in when I was first diagnosed.
Hope this helps.
Merilee
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No, I would go to the hospital if I got that bad..I have before trust me.I will maybe ask for a new combo of drugs.
I have given a lot of thought to having a double mast, and that is not the answer for me.I would still be paranoid that it was in my bloodstream as well I had a friend just diagnosed with mets, they found cancer in her mast scar and liver.Nothing is ever foolproof.They cannot gurantee complete removal...that said.
I think I am just so bummed I figure, why bother? Eating organically is not going to prevent mets, I have no real friends to speak of.I am alone all the time.
It sucks.
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I was going to say, read my post.I am in the same boat.
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Jennywren
Can you clairify whcih boat you are refering to?
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I am sure that there are many people that feel the same way.I have seen a common theme in the posts and I am not sure if it is age, or what.
I used to think if I got breast cancer, I would just cut my breasts off and be done with it.But now, going through it.I just feel so very invaded and traumatized and sad.I don't want people touching me.I don't want 4 doctors having big files on me that I am way too scared to read.I certainly do not want a shrink that tells me he has a woman in his care that re-occured after 15 years.I just do not want anything right now.Nothing will comfort me.
As for getting a mastectomy.I would still worry.I would worry because I know woman that have reccurred in their scar.I would worry that there are still cells in my body.I would worry because I am wasting so much time.
I am not at a point that I need an emergency room,I am at a point where something has to give.I have been through 4 anti-depressants and many more anxiety drugs.I feel as if no one can help me with this.My family would freak out if they knew what was going on in my head.
I am beyond scared,I feel like I am re-living this every day.
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newday,
It sounds like you are suffering from Post Tramatic Stress syndrome. It is common for woman to be going through this after treatment. You need to talk to one of your docs that you trust and get some help. Whether it is councelling, a support group, or a NEW anti depressant. I was sort of feeling like you and decided to try effexor , it has helped me so much. I feel confident now with my future. I live everyday...BC is not constantly on my mind and I don't have panic attacks. I haven't cried in 6 1/2 months. Before I cried daily sometimes 2-3 times. I feel so sorry that you are suffering..but you don't have to. Ask for help, it won't just come to you. God bless,
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Newday, so sorry you are feeling so down....but its so natural...we all have these feelings, sometimes, like me, six years later. ....they just never go, but damp down as the years pass.
I would wholeheartedly agree with lexislove, and would bet you are suffering from post traumatic stress, You need to contact someone who you can trust, and have it out with them....breast care nurse?? councellor?? local support group?? You need to get some trust in one of your doctors, and get a different antidepressant, you will see the world in a whole new way once a drug that suits you kicks in. Seek out a breast care nurse, and ask her to go thru those files with you, so you know exactly what is going on, and what everything means. You will feel a whole lot better when you can open these files and be confident in what they mean....knowledge is power.
I don't think your docs are lying to you, check up on what they are saying. Sometimes we all find things like 'discuss tests' written up in our notes, and sometimes the docs, being human, have written it in the wrong notes...after all, they see so many of us BC patients, its an easy thing to do
Make a start,you will feel 100 times better when you are in control, you cannot go on without some decent help, there is nothing to be ashamed of in asking for that help. As for the fear that is ever present in your mind about recourrance, get a plan sorted out, quit the what ifs and make a path for yourself. NOT easy. I know this, I have been there, and I am still standing six years later. I still see a councellor, every now and then. I just find these fears just sometimes overwhelm me, and I need to talk it thru....I have found a good councellor, she tells me straight, and gets me on track again. My family cannot believe I am still nattering on after all these years, families are not the best to turn to for emotional help, they expect you to be up and running and 'over it' as soon as possible. Thinking of you, keep on coming here with your fears, theres always someone who will talk to you, about what is bothering you.
((((((((((((((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))))))
Isabella.
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I agree wholeheartedly with lexislove and Isabella. This, oddly enough, is so normal. You are NORMAL to feel these things, and the good news is that you are reaching out for help. This is a fantastic sign.
I'm about 4 years out, I admit cancer pops into my head once a day,but it gets easier. Even after having just been told I have/had colon cancer, it is getting easier.
Cancer tries like hell to scare the hell out of us. It is okay to suffer the fear, but it is crucial that you deal with the fear so it does not overtake you.
Love and prayers, Deb -
Newday1976
I am relieved to hear you are not ready for the ER. You do sound really pissed and you have every right to be. I felt betrayed by my body, by God and by my ideas about good Karma.
Took some time to sort all of that out in my head.
Hang in there, time does help with the anxiety. In the mean time if you look into treatments for PTSD be sure to look at a treatment called EMDR. I works without meds.
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Newday
I think about breast cancer often too. It invades my dreams and if I wake in the night, I start thinking of breast cancer. It is on my mind 24/7. I also have dark thoughts. I attend a support group and have found that it helps a little bit. At least you can verbalize what you are feeling to people that understand what you feel. It seems to help me (at least for a while) to say it out loud. I think you are experiencing depression (as I am) and it has to get better with time. I think getting better is just a very slow process. You can't let the cancer consume your thoughts, otherwise the cancer wins. You are not alone in the way you feel. I will be thinking of you.
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Hi:
Are you on any meds? I just quit tamoxifen after a month because I became so depressed. You do indeed sound paranoid if you think your psychiatrist is "in on it". I'm sure your psychiatrist is on your side. You should really give him/her a call. They take emergency calls. Otherwise, you should find a support group with other women who know and understand what is happening to you.
Let us know how you make out.
Peeps
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I was never on tamox, very long story..but long story short I would not metabolize it and it would actually make things worse for me physically.
I went out today, out for a drive with the doggie.I feel a tad bit better.I just cannot stand feeling the way I do.I think my trigger was a very close friend getting breast cancer.She has to do chemo and rads as well and she is only 35. I walked her through it, not knowing how much it would bring to light.
I think something needs to be done.I think I really need to go somewhere to figure this out.The problem is, there are not a lot of facilities that specialize in these issues.The waiting list is very long for mental health care.
I am just so lonely.
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New - Stay with us! We are here for you. Your last sentence says it all.
No matter who you have around you, this is a solo trip. However, you can surround yourself with sisters who are going through their own journeys and would love to have your company.
I have made some great friends here - I would, and have, told them things I would never tell my face-to-face friends. Mainly because I knew my feelings would be understood.
If you have no one you can depend on at home, please use your friends on this forum.
Hugs,
Susan
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Newday
Most Community Mental Health services offer help the same day you ask for it. If you were to go into emergency services and tell them what you have shared here they would help you right away with out a waiting list or other delay. Please don't suffer unnecessarily. There really is help available.
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Newday - we are here for you any time of the day - any day of the week! Lots of gals here have gone thru this or are going thru it to varying degrees. When you meet with your doc in May - ask what the plan for retesting will be moving forward. It is a feeling of control to know what the plan in. ((HUGS))
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Newday - I was dx last June and feel alot like you do. My therapy? These ladies on these boards. No one else understand what we are going through like they do. My friends think I'm over it because I had my surgery and did my treatment. I, like you, feel like I am waiting for the other shoe to drop. You can make some great friends here. We will listen to you, offer advice from our past experiences and just offer our friendship. It makes a HUGE dufference to me to have these friends. He's me feel not as depressed, not so alone. I hope you are feeling better with each post you read here. Look around, meet people, and ask for help! We are here for you!
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newday,
Just keep breathing. You can get through this and you have so many of us here wanting to help. I am certain if you let the hospital know how you are feeling they can help you.
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I can so relate, fortunately I am feeling a little less dark, but still I am worried all the time, am checking this board all the time and am convinced I'm just waiting for the other shoe to fall. About 2 months ago I started taxing Effexor XR and I felt it was helping me, unfortunately it makes me very nauseous so I stopped. After 3 or 4 days I started feeling the depression coming back, and I don't know what to do. Since my cancer was ER/PR negative I'm always worried about any medications, can someone suggest an alternate anti depressant for me? By the way, I'm suffering teribbly from menopause symptoms (especially hot flushes), the Effexor was supposed to help me with both, so I need something for that as well as the depression.
Shelley
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Shelley - Sorry that the Effexor didn't work. There are tons of anti-depressants on the market. It is kind of hit and miss as to which might work best for you. Effexor is supposed to help with the menopause symptoms, but I think just being less stressed helps a lot, too. And, when you get on the meds that are right for you, you will be.
I'm not certain which ones would work best for you - I was on Zoloft for years, along with Wellbutrin, and I did fine, but I was switched to the Effexor, and off the Zoloft since my dx. I guess it's working..
You need someone who knows which anti-depressants work on what. My daughter is a nurse practioner in women's health and is very knowledgable on the various meds and how they interact. Maybe you could find one in your practice and check with her.
Good luck. It's hard enough to go through all the cancer stuff, without the rotten depression along with it.
Susan
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My ONC told me that the only antidepressant that is safe to take with Tamoxifin is Vanlaflaxin (sp?)
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Hi Merilee,
I'm not on Tamoxifin because I'm ER/PR negative.
Shelley
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I get through my dark days by looking around at people and remembering that we are all uncertain about our futures! ( or at least should be). Maybe the guy standing in line with you at the grocery store will have a heart attack and die tomorrow. Maybe the lady next to you at the stop light will have a car crash in an hour and be paralized the rest of her life. All of life is uncertain, just because you have had breast cancer does not mean you won't live to be 90! I hope you are reading all these posts and that you can reach out for help... you are our sister at heart and we don't want anything to happen to you. hugs-Tami
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It has been very therapeutic for me to read all these posts! You know, I thought it strange that I didn't have "down" feelings at all as I went through all the treatments. As horrible as chemo was for me, then the surgery, then radiation, etc., I seemed to keep an up spirit, wondered what all the emotions were about, etc. I even asked if I was in denial or something and not facing the realities of it all. I knew I was in trouble ---- I had waited 7 years before seeking any help or treatment. I had a big hole in my breast reminding me of my stupidity as the tumor broke through the skin. My oncologist was honest and outright blunt in telling me I was in trouble but would fight with me all the way. It wasn't until my last visit with him and I realized I was "done" with everything there was to do that I seemed to panic and it all settled in on me. And I still can't put a definite finger on the panic -- only that it is always there. I can't sleep at night, but can't find anything to think about, either. People tell me to get on with my life, but it seems now that I don't know what that is. Whtever my life was before all this seems to be gone or I'm not interested in it anymore. So I know I have to find something new and move in a different direction. It is strange when you have no bad news, all the scans came out clean, Dr.'s are so amazed at it all, and yet, here I am the only one who is down and feels like the wind has been sucked out of me!
So I do understand your feelings. But I do know that there are a million things each day that are worth living for, and it isn't worth ruining that by worrying if you will be here tomorrow or not! I'm trying really hard to put new values on things -- like family, friends, my dog, springtime with the flowers, birds, etc. Live for today --- it is all we are promised!
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Dear Newday, Lots of good advice here, I hope you will take it to heart. No one knows how you feel except those who have been there. I got so mad when people thought I should just shake it all off. This is a very traumatic thing to deal with. The physical part was a piece of cake for me because I was lucky enought to catch it early. The emotional part was another story. That took me months and months to get through. I cannot even begin to tell you how much anger I felt. Well, actually, I do not have to say a thing, I think you know exactly because I sense you have the same anger. I was furious at so many things. The way I dealt with it was to walk. I walked for hours. I put on my IPOD and covorted with nature. No matter what the weather, I was out there, walking away my anger. Every day I began to feel a little more alive, and I was finally able to let go of all the rage. I cannot tell you the peace I found. I think being out in nature, watching the ducks trying to survive the frozen river, watching the nature come back to life after a long winter, I realized how strong nature is, and we are a part of it all.
I too felt the outrage of having all these doctors invading my privacy with the constant prodding. I hated them taking my pictures every time I went in there to chart my "progress". I hated visiting the Cancer Center, because I hated the fact that I had cancer. I could not even say "my oncologist". She was always my "doctor". I hated them marking me with the radiation tatoos and I hated the scars. Now it is a daily reminder that I am a survivor. I have really accomplished something great. I have tamed the beast! It did not get me!!!!!
I know it sounds so overwhelming now, but you must get going on treatments and do it as quickly as possible. The sooner you get through it all, the sooner you will be healthy again. Also, the earlier you catch a tumor, and knock it out, the less likely it will knock you out.
One last thing I want to add. While I will never say I am glad I got cancer, I do believe it has made me a better person. It forced me to come to terms with all the cancerous thoughts that I have held deep inside. It forced me to let go of my anger, and be thankful for so many things. It has also brought me the wonderful friendships with other women here that will always endure, women I would have never crossed paths with otherwise.
So I will say a prayer that you will eventually find your peace with all this. You can and you will get through this, and you will not be alone. Please do not forget, that there is life after cancer. And there are still lots of sunny days ahead. Only count the sunny days!
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I have to agree. I am completely healed physically but I honestly don't know if I will ever recover from the mental part of it all. It changes you. And yes life is generally uncertain but we have all had an in your face reality check. Every time I hear that song " live like you were dying" I make a special plan or call someone I love just to say so. While there is fear, I no longer take for granted many things. I like that , I just hated the way I had to learn it. And I am determined that cancer will not win. Not even by renting space in my head.
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Newday1976
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