What Multivitamin Do You Take?
Hi Everyone,
I haven't been taking vitamins/supplements for a while, but I'm now preparing to start a whole new regimen. I was just looking over my bottle of multivitamins, which I really haven't taken since before I was diagnosed last October. Not only do they contain the usual vitamins/minerals, but they also have such things as red clover, dong quai, and soy isoflavones. Since my cancer was ER/PR +, I'd like to stay away from these ingredients. On one of the other threads in this forum, many people mentioned they they take a high quality multivitamin. What multivitamin are you taking that's free of herbal blends and soy? Also, I'm a vegetarian, so I'll only take vegetarian capsules. If you think you're taking a great multivitamin that's not vegetarian, I'd love to know the company--I can always check them out to see if they also have a vegetarian formulation. Thanks a lot!
Audrey
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I take the Swiss One 50 with B vitamins and Lutein Multi Vitamin. The B vitamins are a little higher in this brand, my doc recommended it so why not?..lol
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I buy Nature's Plus, I take the Ultra One Daily Caps, they are 100% natural and contain no soy products. I purchase them on line to save a few extra dollars, otherwise you can usually find them at your local health food store.
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I don't take any multivitamin. I like to pick and choose which ones I want to take according to research out there and/or if things begin to bother me, then I find out if a vitamin or mineral might help the problem.
It means looking up each vitamin to see what it helps, supposedly, then see if you helps you.
I take no A vitamin because it might interfere with D absorption. So A is out. B1 & B12 might aid in helping a tumor grow. They're out. So that pretty much ends taking a multi.
What's in? B6, low dose to help absorb magnesium. Calcium, magnesium, D, coQ10, C, fish oil, and a healthy dose of fruits and veggies, raw or lightly steamed. Then you can get exotic by taking other things that aid the vitamins your taking. Such as alpha lipoic acid which is said to keep the C and other antioxidant vitamins running around in your body longer.
I hope this helps, just some things I picked up along this route.
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I do the same as Rosemary and recently starting taking some mushroom and cucumerin supplements. Eat organic as much as possible and am very particular with my diet. Drink lots of green tea too.
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Uh-oh, I think we need to do a study on curcumin again to find out if it interferes with our drug. We did this before and I remember saying to myself at the time, it would be best to wait till we're off our drug.
CP418 are you on a drug?
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Hi Rosemary - I'm currently on Femara and recently dx with osteopenia and had my 1st Zometa infusion in February. I've been on Femara for less than 2 years so far. Started on Tamox but had ooph to switch to AI.
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Thanks to everyone who replied. I just bought a bottle of Nature's Plus Ultra One Daily Caps--it's exactly what I was looking for! Thanks, again!
Audrey
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Hi cp,
Pconn is going to ask Edge about curcumin and our drugs to see if it interferes. I can't remember what the outcome was when we were researching it. It's been a few years. I'll let you know when I find out.
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My memory is terrible with some of these details but for some reason I'm thinking grapefruit had issues with Tamox and Broccoli with Femara??? How ever don't quote me as I may be completely scrambled until we get this confirmed.
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There the proof of B's can make tumor grow? Research? All my doctor's tell me to take the bcomplex to help protect for more neuropathy damage.
Flalady
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There are studies out there on B1 (thiamin) and B12, aiding and abetting tumor growth. I'll go look again. This could be why some Dr.s don't want us taking vitamins until treatment is over. Kill the beast then put our bodies back to feeding healthy cells only. I'll be back.
Here's one on thiamin (B1).
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/06/980623044807.htm
I couldn't find the research on B12 again. It will show up when I'm looking for something else. I found this on inhibiting Vitamins A & E and the plus for us if we don't supplement them:
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Rosemary also look at dose level if you can. They all act like we are taking mega dose of everything.
Thanks
Flalady
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Flalady,
Take into consideration all the fortifying they're doing to our food stuffs. Then we supplement on top of that which could be putting us over the top. We don't know how much is too much. By the way, some people do believe in taking too much. I've seen people report dosages they're taking which knocks me off my chair.
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I take a supplement called Body Balance. It's got all the vitamins, and it's mineral-rich, made from sea vegetables harvested from the purity of the Antarctic (that's a sustainable source!) So, it's loaded with natural iodine, it's got an aloe vera base, amino acids and fatty acids. My health has been better the past year I've been on this than ever before. Not even a cold (and I work with college kids who are sick.)
I also take the company's vit D and calcium formula.
Both are liquids, for better assimilation in the body. They are sold by Life Force, Intl.
I'm getting ready to have major recon surgery (S-GAP) and my surgeon wanted me off all Vit E, since it can decrease platelet function a bit. So, since aloe is vit E-rich, I've had to stop my Body Balance, and it's killing me to know that I could be putting myself at risk for an infection. At elast I can dose up the Vit C and B's in the meantime.
Anne
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cp418-I think you are right about the grapefruit and tamox. I read it somewhere and kept a mental note because I knew I that at some point I would be on tamox.
I have learned to read vitamin labels because I bought a natural multi vit. that sounded great. Then after opening it and taking a few, I read the label which said "contains soy" which I won't take.
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Yes,
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as soon as possible. If there is a impact on survival it would be a shame to wait too long.
And it's very important to collaborate (and ask of course) with a registered dietician who knows well oncology (1) and who abolutley has to collaborate with your oncologist. I read it's the best way that your body gets all the nutriments he needs without problems. I also read your medical team will also make analysis to know if your body has the good amount of nutriments. And I read studies that showed an increased survival.
Here is the complete version regarding this subject. (Sorry for my English this is not my native language ;-))
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is very important for cancer patients and many studies show an improvement of many factors (quality of life, immune system, SURVIVAL) thanks to the help of a registered dietitian for cancer patients. (1).
Of course this registered dietitian has to know well oncology and to collaborate with you oncologist . (you must also tell your team about the treatments for other illnesses than cancer you're taking on the same time)
It's highly advised to collaborate with the dietitian right after the diagnosis.
He will help you, for instance, for the following situation :
- He can help us before during and after the treatment .Thanks to his advises you will also be able to eat healthy on the long time going after the end of the treatment, what is also important.
- Your team (oncologist and registered dietitian) can also advise you about physical activity. Ask them advises about physical activity because many studies showed an increased survival thanks to that.
- Your team will also make sure your body gets all the nutriments he needs, also by making analysis, according to what I read. This is important because studies showed that that a correct amount of nutrients in the body increases survival and decreases relapse. For instance there is by Internet Speed Checker" style="border: none !important; display: inline-block !important; text-indent: 0px !important; float: none !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: auto !important; margin: 0px !important; min-height: 0px !important; min-width: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important; text-transform: uppercase !important; text-decoration: underline !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; width: auto !important; background: transparent !important;">a relationship
between a correct amount of selenium in the body and cancer rate. Ask them how to get the good levels of nutrients (and selenium) during all the time (before, during and on the long term going after the treatment) without problems (2)
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D LEVEL IN YOUR BODY (neither too high nor too low) DURING AND AFTER THERAPY (ALSO TO INCREASE SURVIVAL). ASK YOUR TEAM TO ANALYSE YOUR by Internet Speed Checker" style="border: none !important; display: inline-block !important; text-indent: 0px !important; float: none !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: auto !important; margin: 0px !important; min-height: 0px !important; min-width: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important; text-transform: uppercase !important; text-decoration: underline !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; width: auto !important; background: transparent !important;">VITAMIN
D LEVELS AND HOW TO MAINTAIN THE GOOD LEVEL. Also ask which other nutrients it's important to analyze. It is also important to have a correct amount of vitamin D on the long term going after the therapy. Discuss with your team how to maintain this level and to make analyses regularly. I also heard vitamin D works together with calcium.
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Speaking about alimentation, I read interesting studies regarding cruciferous vegetables (like brocolis, Brussel by Internet Speed Checker" style="border: none !important; display: inline-block !important; text-indent: 0px !important; float: none !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: auto !important; margin: 0px !important; min-height: 0px !important; min-width: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important; text-transform: uppercase !important; text-decoration: underline !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; width: auto !important; background: transparent !important;">sprouts
, and so on), and cancer. In these studies, they show the following effects (thanks to isothiocyanates and other substances) :
- Decreasing cancer rate (also for people who has no cancer = prevention)
- Increasing survival amoung cancer patients (62% in a study)
- In some studies, cruciferous vegetables increases the efficacy of chemotherapy
Cruciferous vegetables were more effective than many other foodstufs in these studies.
Here is something very important I also read these vegetables are much more efficient if we add other foodstufs that have interesting properties like ),brocoli sprouts, radish because it hels to cross the intestinal by Internet Speed Checker" style="border: none !important; display: inline-block !important; text-indent: 0px !important; float: none !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: auto !important; margin: 0px !important; min-height: 0px !important; min-width: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important; text-transform: uppercase !important; text-decoration: underline !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; width: auto !important; background: transparent !important;">barrier.
This is very important to add these foods to cruciferous vegetables because with this simple method whe make sure to have an efficient action for all the body (thanks to the fact that it helps to cross the intestinal barrier)
Brocoli sprouts contains 50 times more isothiocyianates than broccoli.And of course, if our imune system is weak, I read there are some precautions to take (for instance cooking the foods that could give infections if consumed raw). I don't know what is the best way to cook the vegetables in order to preserve the most their properties and to kill the bacteries. I have been told we have to avoid to put the food in contact with plastic pieces during the cooking because it can put toxical substances in it. Finally I also read taht once the imune sistem is ok again, the situation is different. Some foods have more anticancer properties if eaten raw, some other cooked (but we must avoid cookind methods that destroy the anticancer properties of the food). And for some it is advised to consume them both raw and cooked because each one has its advantages.
WE MUST ALSO AVOID TO BUY THESE VEGETABLES DEEP FROZEN BECAUSE THEY ALSO LOOSE THEIR PROPERTIES (the industrial process to deep-froze them make them loose a great part of their properties).In the studies I read it's very efficient from a certain amount of servings a week incuded in a healthy and balanced by Internet Speed Checker" style="border: none !important; display: inline-block !important; text-indent: 0px !important; float: none !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: auto !important; margin: 0px !important; min-height: 0px !important; min-width: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important; text-transform: uppercase !important; text-decoration: underline !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; width: auto !important; background: transparent !important;">nutrition
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If you take blood thinning medications like warfarin, ask your medical team how to consume cruciferous vegetables because they contain by Internet Speed Checker" style="border: none !important; display: inline-block !important; text-indent: 0px !important; float: none !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: auto !important; margin: 0px !important; min-height: 0px !important; min-width: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important; text-transform: uppercase !important; text-decoration: underline !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; width: auto !important; background: transparent !important;">vitaminK that change (decrease) the effectiveness of these drugs. Also ask about other foodstufs that contains vitamin K. But I don't mean to say that people who take blood thinning medications must avoid cruciferous vegetables, just that they have to ask their medical team how to consume them. Ask as soon as possible in order to take advantage of these vegetables as soon as possible. It would be a shame to wait if there is a positive effect regarding survival.
And of course if you are pregnant or breastfeeding I read you have to ask your doctor which food you must avoid (for instance horseradish must be avoided during pregnancy and lactation. I also read wasabi must be avoided but anyway we can't eat sushis or food like that durang pregancy and breast feeding. I know, this is a totaly different subject that has nothing to do with the subject of my by Internet Speed Checker" style="border: none !important; display: inline-block !important; text-indent: 0px !important; float: none !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: auto !important; margin: 0px !important; min-height: 0px !important; min-width: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important; text-transform: uppercase !important; text-decoration: underline !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; width: auto !important; background: transparent !important;">presentmessage but my sister is pregnant, that's why I know this. And this was an opportunity to share good news
Ok, I am not a doctor but I wanted to talk about a subject that I find interesting.
Have a nice day(1) Ask your oncologist to advise you a good registered dietitan that knows well oncology and insist because it can help by Internet Speed Checker" style="border: none !important; display: inline-block !important; text-indent: 0px !important; float: none !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: auto !important; margin: 0px !important; min-height: 0px !important; min-width: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important; text-transform: uppercase !important; text-decoration: underline !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; width: auto !important; background: transparent !important;">regarding
survival and quality of life. I also read that your oncologist and your reg dietitian have to collaborate together. It's important because studies showed that the collaboration with a registered dietitian (before, during, and after the treatment = all your life ) increased survival and quality of life. It's important to collaborate with the reg dietitian right after the diagnosis.
The name of this kind of specialist can vary from a country to another, that's why it's good to ask your oncologist the name of the most efficient kind of by Internet Speed Checker" style="border: none !important; display: inline-block !important; text-indent: 0px !important; float: none !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: auto !important; margin: 0px !important; min-height: 0px !important; min-width: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important; text-transform: uppercase !important; text-decoration: underline !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; width: auto !important; background: transparent !important;">nutritionspecialist for your situation
(2) Oncology is very complicated and nothing is white or black. I read studies that say we have to maintain good level of selenium because it reduces side effects and even increase efficiency of some treatments. But another in vitro study show that a compound that by Internet Speed Checker" style="border: none !important; display: inline-block !important; text-indent: 0px !important; float: none !important; font-weight: bold !important; height: auto !important; margin: 0px !important; min-height: 0px !important; min-width: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important; text-transform: uppercase !important; text-decoration: underline !important; vertical-align: baseline !important; width: auto !important; background: transparent !important;">contains
selenium named Ebselen reduces slightly the efficiency bloeomycin. Ok this is one particular case of interaction and it doesn't mean at all that we don’t' have to maintain a good level of nutrients (and selenium) in our bodies. As I said nothing is black or white in oncology and we have to ask our oncologist and registered dietitian how to get the correct amount of selenium without having problems.
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Darcy45: I think you are taking Nature's Plus Ultra One Daily IRON-FREE, right? I believe we are not supposed to supplement with iron.
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Anyway, with or without supplementation an healthy food (fruits, vegetables and so on) is good. But aslo ask your doctor about your diet.
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