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  • arnie
    arnie Member Posts: 3,050
    edited April 2009

    Thank you Robin, have only had two emotionally "down" days since this journey began... it's so nice to hear from someone whose done it!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2009

    Robin, thank you for those very powerful words - they certainly give us additional hope and strength to ride this out!!  I have been trying not to think of the chemo as poison, even though it is, but as insurance to help me get to an old age and not have to deal with this disease any more!!

    As I've returned full time this week and most of next week to work, I'm making sure I dress nicely, like I did before all of this started, and as I can finally wear my long, chunky neclaces again, I am, along with putting on makeup and my cute shoes.  My husband looked at me this morning and said, wow, you look terrific,  You don't look . . ." and I filled it in for him, "sick?  Like a cancer patient?" and he nodded.  "That's the plan, honey", I responded and kissed him on the cheek before I left for work.  So, we feel like crap right around our treatment times - that's what's supposed to happen, but dammit, I am not going to let this turn me into the frump monster.  I always am dressed fun and funky, have makeup on and at least jewlery, at least while I feel good, and it really does make me feel better, more "me" and more in control!

  • aris
    aris Member Posts: 124
    edited April 2009

    I'm day 7 post first A/C and am doing okay. I'm mostly tired, the nausea has subsided (thank goodness for all the meds)! I found one mouth sore today and now am worried about those. Does anyone know how long they last and what to do for them? The onc. nurse told me about rinsing my mouth out, is this to rid my mouth of them or just for comfort? Is there anyway to prevent them?

    I had a port put in on Monday and am still pretty uncomfortable from that. I hope this passes soon!

    Pam

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited April 2009

    Hi Pam,

    We are about the exact same in time fram and meds - I just discovered my first mouth sore also this am.  I have been using Biotene toothpaste and mouthwash since the day before my A/C - good mouth care is very important to prevent infection, and allow us to continue with nutrition without too much discomfort.  Call the onc to report the mouth sore - don't assume it's "normal" - in case they want to recommend anything in particular. 

    Glad the nausea has subsided - did you take your meds as directed?  I didn't have nausea, but I had mean heartburn, which is also subsided - my first blood counts are tomorrow, so we'll see how the Neulasta worked.

    Hang in there - it will pass soon.

    Geri

    ps - Kathy - are you back yet?  Thinking about you

  • aris
    aris Member Posts: 124
    edited April 2009

    I have the Biotene mouthwash, but was wondering what it was for! I wasn't sure if it was for comfort or if it would get rid of the sore! My tongue is a bit funny, but other than that there is only one sore.  I did take the Emend and Decadron and also used Zofran on days 2, 3, & 4 for the nausea. It helped a lot.  I didn't have heartburn, I tend to get it, but was eating so bland, maybe I escaped it?

    Good luck with the blood counts. I don't have to return for a blood draw until next week. I, too, had Neulasta, and am really hoping it worked. I heard this is the time that our levels drop.

    Pam

  • tulipbebe
    tulipbebe Member Posts: 85
    edited April 2009

    I saw on the natural thread that oil-pulling is recommended.  It's using olive/sesame oil to swish and then just spitting it out.  The oil is supposed to pull or rather dissolve all the bad stuff from our mouths.  I haven't tried it yet...not sure I will but it's a thought.

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited April 2009

    Hi Geri,

    Home from my first Chemo, the infusion wasn't so bad. The people there were very nice. It seems that I have failed yet another test. They want me to have a Pet scan, will be doing that on tues. I am an early bird so I picked 8:30 in the morning.  Love my new hair, its a shame that I will loose it in about 3 weeks. Joe (my hairdresser  took pictures. )  So I am trying to post this now. Just remember he has issues with cutting my hair short. I think when I go for the GI Jane look he may cry instead of me. to insert a picture I may have to open a photo bucket account.

    be back soon with pixs in hand. ( I should know how to do this the degree I am going for is Web Development...DUH)

    Kathy .

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited April 2009

    Bombus,

    How did it go today, let us know.

    You are in my prayers.

    Kathy 

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited April 2009

    Hi Kathy,

    So glad to hear from you and that the infusion went ok - I had the whole battery of tests before the chemo started - onc just wanted baselines for everything - I am still actually waiting for insurance auth for brain scan (after they almost sucked my tissue expander out with the MRI!) The indignities we must suffer.  I hope Joe the hairdresser is able to get through the loss of your hair- amazing how we can effect other people!  I'll look forward to your pics, and yes, Bombus - let us know how you are.

    Pam - the biotene is supposed to help keep the mucous membranes in your mouth from getting too dry which can promote those nasty mouth sores.  Glad you didn't have the heartburn - I thought mine was gone for good this cycle, but has been lurking all day today!

    Geri

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited April 2009

    Hi Geri,

    Picture of my new due. Joe still think I should  have long, long hair. When I get my next hair cut I will get a picture of both of us...he is a great guy. Hope this  works... kathy

    my new duesid view  

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited April 2009

    Hey Geri,

    It work! ..

    Ouch! that sounds like it really hurt.  When do you think you will get your brain scan? 

    Tell me if you can see my pictures.... you may have to be signed in to see them.

    Kathy 

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited April 2009

    Hi Kathy,

    Pictures look great - You look good in short hair!  Tell that to Joe!  You should have no trouble getting the wig.

    I'll find out tomorrow about the brain scan - have to go to the onc for blood count, and will ask him then.  Have you eaten dinner since you got home?  Remember - drink, drink, drink - I swear that really helped minimize the side effects for me - just kept water and flat ginger ale next to me all weekend after tx.

    Did you figure out how to PM? Hope you have a good nite tonight - one down!!!!

    Have you heard from Bombus?

    Geri

  • lollys
    lollys Member Posts: 205
    edited April 2009

    I will be starting 4/20 A/C-T 4tx then 4 tx--grade 2 2 nodes positive infiltrating mammary ca--multifocal--i think stage 2 ( ecause of the positve nodes--tumor <1 cm-- given a choice between ac-t or Taxatere and cytoxcine--had a difficult time deciding due to side effects of adriamycin have myself going crazy but decided to hit it hard with ac-t will be right behind some of you --keep in  touch

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited April 2009

    Hi Geri,

    Sent you a PM. Did some stew(MIL made it for me), and toast.

    What time do you go to onc's office?  Good luck with the blood count tomorrow. Will be thinking of you.

    Kathy 

  • Nico1012
    Nico1012 Member Posts: 1,492
    edited April 2009

    Re: mouth sores............. This is just a suggestion. Several ladies here chewed ice chips or popscicles during the infusion and reported NO mouth sores. Supposedly the cold slows down the blood flow in the mouth and therefore less of the chemical reaches the mouth tissues. I used the ice chips as well as ice gloves and ice socks and had no mouth sores and no neuropathy.

    If it helps even a little, it's worth a try!

    Nico

  • comingtoterms
    comingtoterms Member Posts: 421
    edited April 2009

    lollys,

    I am on the same schedule you are: start the 20th - A/C, then T (total of 16 weeks).   I am having a MUGA scan in the morning, before they start the chemo, to be sure my heart is up for it.   Got my port put in yesterday and it is killing me!  It's like having the MS all over again!

    Tammy

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited April 2009

    Did my first chemo yesterday.  Today is much better.

    bombus how did your first day go. Just remember we are all here for you.

    kathy 

  • Paula3558
    Paula3558 Member Posts: 63
    edited April 2009

    Hi Everyone,

    It's been chilly and raining here in Maryland for days, the sun is finally out today. Yeah! I'm going to the Ocean with my husband for the wkend. Totally looking forward to it. My step-daughter has MS and every year we do the MS walk. This year I'm going to hang out and cheer the team. I will be making an appearance for the first time in front of friends and family members that haven't seen me since I got the wig. A little nervous. Hope it doesn't blow off (lol) Haven't got the scarf tieing down yet. So I'm afraid to wear a hat and scarf. My head is itching something terrible. Got my head shaved last Monday, last chemo was 4/2 so it's been two weeks. --Next dose 4/23 of TAC. I'm enjoying the days that I feel good before the next tx.

    Paula

      

  • aris
    aris Member Posts: 124
    edited April 2009

    So tell me about the aches/pains I have today in my legs, hips and hands. Is this the dreaded chemo or neulasta bone pain? I am 8 days post my first A/C infusion and am surprised by the delay in the achiness.  It hurts!

    Anyone with experience with this? Any ideas of how long this will last? I'm off to the couch to rest with a heating pad and book before I have to get my kids from school.   I'll really need my energy then!

    Pam

  • Paula3558
    Paula3558 Member Posts: 63
    edited April 2009

    Pam, I felt the same way 4 days after my first chemo tx (TAC). Bone pain mostly in my arms and legs felt like the flu. I believe it's from the Neulasta shot. Next time I'm going to try to take tylenol or aleve prior to getting the shot. Hope you feel better soon.

    Paula 

  • jlp
    jlp Member Posts: 54
    edited April 2009

    Pam, sounds like you got the bone pain the same time as me, 8 days after treatment.  Mine was hips and lower back, and right knee (arthritic).  My nurse said it was the Neulasta starting to kick in (my wbc was really low the day before - now back to normal range after day 14). The good news is that it only lasted 24 hours. Also, my nurse advised 'tylenol extra' for the pain, which really seemed to help - ask your onc or nurse if it is OK for you...  

  • bombus
    bombus Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2009

    ikat- thank you for the good thoughts, you were in my thoughts as well yesterday. 

     the first time went fairly well, i tolerated everything and they were able to access my port, though it took two tries.  i never did get drousey as they said i would until i got home and then it was everything i could do to keep my eyes open.  i have been just a wee bit queesy but the pills seem to help. my niece who has gone through many medical procedures has recommended root beer so i might pick some of that up today. all in all my first day went pretty well, the nurses were really great the lunch they served was eatable and i seem to be feeling okay today. the only down side is i have to give my self shots everyday, don't know how i am going to be able to do it, but i will have to figure it out

    also- could i please be added to the list, thank you 

  • TSmith
    TSmith Member Posts: 30
    edited April 2009

    I finally have my first chemo scheduled for April 23 - 1 week from today. I had my chemo port surgery on 4/9 and ended up with an allergic reaction to the betadyne they used. I still have one heck of a rash.

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited April 2009

    Hi Bombus,

    So glad you made it through yesterday - 1 down.   I found that ginger ale worked for me, but each of us will be different - just drink, drink, drink.

    I went for my counts today - very low even with the Neulast.  My onc started me on an antibiotic today because my white count is under 1,000, and if I run a temo of 100.5 or over, I will have to be admitted for IV antibiotics - I have no intention of going back nto the hospital, so my house is now quarenteened!

    Go back for repeat of counts on Monday if nothing else occurs before than.  Keep your fingers crossed for me - do not want to go to the hospital

    Geri

  • vicbils
    vicbils Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2009

    Geri...Hope your counts do OK...good idea to quarantine yourself!!  I start my first treatment 4/22...4 dose dense rounds of A/C and then 4 rounds of T,  Nervous, but will be glad to get it started...closer to the finish line that way!

  • Nadine54
    Nadine54 Member Posts: 230
    edited April 2009

    Well girls just dropping in for a sec...Slept like a baby last night...the over the counter sleeping pills and a anxiety helped and actually slept in!  For sure going to talk to the doc about a script however.  Also going to talk to him about some protein powder or something to add to my drinks.

    Hubby got me out of the house today and went to a nearby town and got stocked up on comfort foods for next week.  I am a homebody and this is the first time since I lost the hair that I have been around people really.  Had a royal blue turbine on, put eyebrow pencil on (still have the brows but always so thin), and lipstick and blush.  After the good nights sleep felt like a million bucks.  Funny seeing the reaction of people.  I kept a constant upbeat smile on my face and was extra friendly to everyone.  Some folks had the look of discomfort....others nearly broke their backs to smile a big smile at me and service was supreme.  Sure makes me wonder what my reaction was to others, and for sure opened my eyes.  Bought some scarves that may work on some hats or even tied loosely around my neck in warmer weather.  Been having daily problems with nosebleeds...bought a product I used years ago called OCEAN.  Its a saline nasal spray.  I have another nose spray for moisturizer but it didn't seem to help...so been using the old bottle of left over Ocean...sure helps make the nose feel better.  Also had problems with severe dry eyes.  I had surgery years ago and the eye doc told me not to use the kind of drops that take the red out but to use the kind that only adds moisture to the eyes...again been using an old bottle and got a new one today...helps with eye itch and dry eye. 

    So hoping the next days are like today...such a breeze.  No naps yet but probably will take one a bit later just for good measure. 

    So just keeping busy and counting the days for round 2. 

    Hope everyone is doing good...keep the spirits up and a smile on your face. 

    Take care my friends,

    Nadine :)

  • luckofthedraw
    luckofthedraw Member Posts: 53
    edited April 2009

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    Thanks for the reminders to stay in good cheer.  It's so hard some days!

    Is anyone else doing FEC?  I just couldn't do the Adriamycin in AC + T, so talked the onc into EC, which lead to FEC + T.  Since E is A's "country cousin", I'm curious if the sx will be any different.  Is anyone doing Avastin?  We've also discussed that, and will need to make some final decisions on Monday. 

    I got my port in Monday.  Man that sucker hurts!    Mine is right underwhere my shoulder belt on the seat belt sits.  Pillows make it majorly-painful.

    Today I took a friend to "chemo class" and to the wig shop with me.  I had picked out a bunch of wigs beforehand.  All of them looked horrible.  Like several of you have mentioned, I do not look good in short, straight hair.  My hair is naturally curly, and usually is down to mid-back length.  I had it cut a couple of days after diagnosis, so it's just past my shoulders now.  I had two 6-12 inch ponytails of my own hair, from prior haircuts, but a custom wig will cost $800-$1200, and take 6-8 weeks.  Chemo starts next Thursday, so no time for that now.  We're planning on letting the kids snip, and DH will buzz it when they are done.  I'm mostly planning on hats and scarves, anyway, but felt a need for a wig on some occassions.  

    I had blood work done Monday, while getting port inserted.  I already have low platelets and red blood cells, and my white blood cells are on the very low end of the normal range.  Given that, I'm afraid onc will say no dose-dense, when I meet with him on Monday.  I was SO looking forward to getting this show on the road, and over with soon. *sigh*  Every day's a new day....

  • pdlc436
    pdlc436 Member Posts: 60
    edited April 2009

    Hi,

    joanmac52 I am doing TC as well, but with Herceptin.  Today I had my first session.  Feel really naseous and sleepy from the antihistamines.  My stomach is quite bloated, any suggestions?.  I did tried ice on my feet during the Taxotere...we'll see. 

    RETAIL THERAPY is great, Iove buying scarves and put together a "chemo style" that I shopped at Filene's Basement.

    Coconut water is full of electrolytes, I drink it cold and makes me feel better.

     TBB, I am sorry to hear about your drains for 6 weeks!  After they are out it is important to stretch your arms as much as you can.  Yoga worked for me.  I hear you about the showers, I took baby baths to my waist and when I finally took a shower I stayed there for 45 mins!!!  First my PS gave me vitamin E oil to rub on my scars, now I use Bio Oil twice a day.  I also massage the scars  of the drains so they don't become stiff.

    As many have said already in these forums, the body is incredibly resilient and repairs itself in amazing ways.

     P.

  • florbo
    florbo Member Posts: 178
    edited April 2009

    Nico-

    What are ice gloves?  I'll be doing my second TC next Friday and want to be prepared in case I get some peripheral neuropathy.  I did the ice chips last time and my mouth was fine.  I also started on L-glutamine and B -complex for preventative measures against the neuropathy.

  • sherrilynne
    sherrilynne Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2009

    I found out today that I will start chemo next Friday, 4/24.  They told me that the surgeon will call me to set up the port early this next week.  I don't know what to expect about Chemo. Any helpful tips is greatly appreciated.  Thanks

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