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Thanks Beth!
Just like Rogaine for men's hair growth, you should see how long you have to massage it in. My husband figured years ago it was the massage that did the work (he didn't want to). So, men go through it too.
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I won't say I swear by Palmers cocoa butter lotion but that is what I used because it is what I use at the house and only when I thought about it, usually 2 times a day (when I got up in the morning and when I went to bed). But sometimes I massaged the area without the lotion as Beth said it was more the act of massage than the use of the lotion.
Sheila
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I'm going to mention the Glaxyl Base again....someone told me about it and I have pretty horrid scars from other surgeries and not from this one already! I was using it to keep the area moist, help with the itching and to keep it from getting tight. Never thought of it as helping with the scar, but honestly, I'm blown away.
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Since I'll be using a silicone strip over my abd scar, I wonder if I have to NOT massage the scar at all? I doubt the silicone will stick to a slick area, right? Anyone know?
I've been checking around online about the various types of silicone strips/sheets and there are real differences in form, etc. The one I ordered (supposed to be coming today) is a bit curved and shaped like the TT incision site. This is what it looks like http://www.silon.us.com/c3/Oleeva-Scar-Shapes.htm
Also, this is supposed to be worn 24 hours a day except for once a day, just before shower/bath, that you remove it, wash it and allow it to air dry. As soon as it is dry (and you, too) you put it back on. It is supposed to last four to six weeks.
Barbe, I will keep that Glaxyl Base in mind for any future surgeries I have. Seems there's always another one. Sigh. And, you look so cute in that new pic! It looks like your hair is pulled up in a ponytail or is it just pulled back? Shows off the lovely oval shape of your face.
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Barbe - I love the new avatar!!! What are you - a junior in college? early 20's? Wait, how rude of me to ask your age. I will just guess - 22!!!!
You look fabulous babe!!!!
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Thanks guys!!!! My ego needed that today.
Abba, I looked into those strips. WOW, I wish I'd had them when I had my reduction. They are something I would certainly consider. We'll let you be the guinea pig, so let us know, eh?
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OMG, Beth, you really have made me feel so much better! And I'm actually feeling very relaxed about the whole thing now and have decided to just trust my PS and her judgment...after all, she knows what I want and she has a fabulous reputation for good results and minimal complications. I mean, that's why I chose her to begin with!
So now that I'm feeling so optimistic, I decided to look into the purchase of a good, watersports-useful bikini for the summer. Of course, I don't yet know my size, so I plan to wait about a month or so before ordering. But I have found some really cute suits to think about in the meantime. Ooops, I just realized that this is the "makeup" thread, so I'm heading over to "fashion" to post there!
~Marin
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Received the AP scar sheet yesterday and applied it last night. It is extremely thin and flexible and is almost invisible in tone and thickness under my nylon panties.
Here's the thing. It is waaayyyy longer and more curved than my scar. Luckily, you can cut it and it is flexible enough to conform to the shape which is really more like the picture of the C-section scar/sheet on that page I listed. My scar is not exactly straight across but nowhere near as curved as shown.
I was able to cut off a piece large enough for my belly button, whose scar I just had revised. Additionally, there is almost enough left for a whole other adb treatment when this one is used up. If I feel it is really doing some good and decide to re-order, I think I will save what is left for the BB and order the C-section shape/size. It is less expensive, too.
This thing is so sticky that you would never think you can wash it and re-apply but that is what I am supposed to do every day. My trial run will be this evening at bath time.
Make-up news: I bought some of that new Photofinish Eye Primer. It's okay but I think the color is too beige for me to wear alone so I would only use it under shadow. Basically, I think I'm just as well off using the regular PhotoFinish on my eyelids if I want something there.
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Marin,
I had my exhange surgery last thursday! They moved it up from April 23rd because I had a small opening in my incision. Now I am at home recovering. Wow... compared to the bilateral mastectomy with expanders this wasn't a big deal. I am a little sore adn the drains are back which is a pain. However, I think I am getting the drains out tomorrow. Honestly I am a little smaller than I wanted but he said they have to take into account the width of the chest, etc and I wanted it to look natual. I think once things heal I will be happy even if they aren't quite as big as I might have hoped. Good luck to you!
My skin looks so uneven and splotchy. Anyone have any good moisterizer rec's for this?
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Congratulations, Cristl, on your successful surgery and getting over one more hump! I hope the final results are awesome.
Skin always looks blah after going through these surgeries because of all the pulling on it and clamping, etc. No wonder it's blotchy. I had funny little marks, too. Then, there are the drain wounds. But, it'll get better and better.
As soon as you can start using something on your skin besides mild soap and water, I'd go with something mild and unscented to avoid irritation. Once the scars heal you will be able to use some of the products we have been talking about recently.
Wow, it's good to have that behind you, isn't it?
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Galxyl Base!
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Cristl...Very cool about the exchange and the relatively little pain! I'd say that after what you went through initially, you deserve to be painfree! Are you looking to moisture skin near your incisions or the areas away from them? Barbe's stuff sounds awesome, so maybe you should see if you can find it? I like the idea of Palmer's Cocoa Butter for when I've healed some.
Now speaking of massage, I just came from a loooooong massage myself and the massage therapist is extremely knowledgable about breasts and about the lymphatic system. She showed me how to massage the entire area both before the surgery and then after I've healed and it's really quite gentle. She says that it will keep everything circulating and healthy and I'm thinking that that can only be good for enhancing quicker healing, right? Anyway, the massage itself was completely awesome. I had forgotten how my neck and shoulders feel without tight, hard knots in them! I'm ready for a nap, y'all!
~Marin
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barbe, I just googled the glaxal and it's only available from Canada. I suppose we could buy it online.
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Marin- it's helpful to have another person to perform the lymphatic massage-- where they manipulate your arms when you are lying on the table on your back. Just remember, you cannot mess with the new girls until all incisions are healed. Shopping for new bikini tops, and other tops in general will be such a treat, and I hope you enjoy every minute of it.
Tina- you got the strips that most PS's recommend. Just follow the instructions, and you'll let us know in a few weeks how it looks. My belly button scar completely faded into nothing-- and I never massaged it, or put anything on it-- and it was one ugly scar.
Barbe- I don't know if the same massage theory applies to rogaine. I worked for a dermatologist many years ago, when rogaine was still something you needed an RX for. And it really, really works if you have a specific type of balding/ thinning pattern, and it actually works better on women then men. I don't know if it's really massaging, however- I know for men, keeping their scalp clean, and not wearing caps and hats helps to deter from balding. Unfortunately it's all genetic. My friend works for hair club for men. She's a big director for them, and has more women clients then men, but I've seen some before and after pics that are fascinating.
I think the olay moisturizer/foundation combo is making me break out a little. But it could also be that I'm not used to wearing makeup every single day. My mom started using it, and her skin looks flawless.
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Beth, there is a lady at work with thinning hair and her doctor says she can't use Rogaine! We googled it and the site says for men only.
My husband bought it by prescription about 12 years ago and gave up the effort. I think he expected to see hair quickly....doi.
As for Glaxyl Base, I wonder if it has a US name?
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there is a different rogaine for women... but it has to do with a specific balding pattern. You have to be a candidate in order for it to work. And the worst part- is the longer you wait, the less of a chance you have for any of those products to be effective.
I watched a semi disturbing video of how hair transplants are done on men...when they take it from the back of the scalp... eeeeek. Why not just go bald. There are a lot of sexy bald men. I'd rather a bald guy then the Dr. Phil hair cut.
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You'd think her doctor would know that! Doi again.
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Girls, I know this sounds unbelievable, but I think the silicone strips are working already. When I took them off last night before my bath, I ran my fingers over the worst parts and they really do seem flatter! Maybe this is just temporary from the pressure of the strips. I don't know. But, I am encouraged! Maybe this isn't such a waste of time and money afterall!
Barbe, I may have to go to town today on errands and I'll stop in at CVS and ask the pharmacist if there is an American equivalent for the Glaxal Base.
Beth, I just read a review of Glaxal Base where the person said they even use it to dilute their foundation and there is no goopy feel!
Today is Marin's surgery. I am thinking of her, sending positive energy and hoping she wakes up feeling fresh as a daisy!
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Oh, Tina, you sweet, sweet girl, thinking of me yesterday! Thank you, my chica! All went so extremely well, but I have no idea what the boobs are gonna look like because she's got me tightly wrapped in bandages, covered with an ACE, and wants me to leave it all wrapped until next Wednesday when I go back for f/u. She knows how crazed I am about not looking like Pamela Anderson, so maybe it is her experience that keeping the wrap on as long as possible makes for better healing..? Who knows, but I don't really care as long as they're gorgeous when it comes off, right?
Since this IS the makeup thread, I'll report this: I find it so unacceptable to be without at least a little mascara at all times and, so, actually defied orders yesterday and put on waterproof mascara and some brow pencil. If course, after 2 1/2 hours in the OR, with an oxygen mask and tube and all of the other crap that they use on you, nothing was left when I woke up and peeked in the mirror. Ugh. Luckily, I threw the brow pencil in my little plastic bag with my belongings! I'm still looking for makeup that makes me look totally perfect and stays on until I take it off!
~Marin
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I've been using that new Revlon foundation that has the built-in brush. I'm only using it as it has an SPF and I notice I'm starting to get sunspots! Yikes! I hated the brush at first, but have come to love it! The foundation is very light and smooths out beautifully all by itself. I don't feel like I'm wearing anything and I know I'm protected slightly. I also read somewhere that foundation protects your skin from pollutants.
I've considered getting eyebrow tattoos, but then wonder when I finally let myself go gray will it look dumb?
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Yea, Marin is up and at 'em! Soooo glad you are feeling well. It IS a pain to have to wait a week to see how the girls look, but it'll fly by.
I think maybe the eyebrow tattoos are the best option if you get a good artist to apply them. If they're not so good, you are still stuck with them unless you do laser removal.
Girls, I took your advice and painted my toes a lovely almost-magenta color, not harsh but a cool, assertive rosy pink. It's OPI's Access 24/7. I bought it on impulse when I ordered from Sephora. I LOVE it! My toes make me happy poking out of the bathwater. This was def the right thing to do.
I've been looking at getting a pedicure but there are so many kinds available now and the prices are pretty outrageous, I don't know what to do. What should I expect to pay for a good soak and soften with dead skin rubbed away and then polish?
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A good pedicure is about $22. An expensive pedicure can run up to $45-50, which in my opinion is outrageous.
I need a pedicure SOOOO bad, but I know nothing will be open tomorrow. It will have to wait until Thursday- my next day off. I can't wait to wear my new BCBG shoes- but I need my toes done first.
My friend has her eyebrows tattooed, and while they look good- they are really dark for the first few weeks/months- and then they fade. And for the first two weeks, hers wer so dark it was a little scary looking.
But, I must say, she wakes up in the morning, and her brows look fabulous.
I can't tattoo my face. Nipples, fine. Tattoo on my back... okay.
But, just can't get with the idea of a tattoo gun hitting my face... I was watching Judge Alex (my day time TV boyfriend) and a woman was sueing the tattoo artist for doing her eyebrows, and one was much higher then the other... giving her a permanent evil eye. That was enough for me.
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I had my eyebrows tattoed after chemo because only the inner parts came back. Unfortunately, I made such a big deal about wanting them light (since my hair is blonde) that she made them too light and they've now faded almost completely away. Crap...$400+ for nuthin'! I'd like a re-do, but I'd have to pay in full again and my priority right now is Restalyne around my mouth and lasering off some sun spots on my face near my hairline. And then there's the Latisse...as soon as I can save enough money, I'm hitting the aesthetistician!
(So I peeked up my bandages and I look very "full." So far, I'm liking what I'm seeing!!!)
~Marin
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NO PEEKING!!!! don't play with the bandages.... just hold out till the BIG reveal in your PS's office this week.
xoxoxo
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Marin, I'm sooooo glad you're okay. Cristl, congrats to you, too! Surgery is a BIG deal, no matter what kind, so get lots of rest.
Beth is right, no peeking or poking, ladies!! Be good! Lymphatic massage is verrrry gentle and only done like you're gently wiping the skin because the lymphatic vessels are just underneath. You can do a bit for yourself, but it definitely IS better to go to a good PT or OT or massage therapist who is properly trained. There is even professional certification for it that some of us can get, so you can ask about that before signing up to see someone for treatment. Your surgeon may know who to refer you to. PT and OT can also help you gently get your normal range of motion and strength back.
I know you'll both look beautiful. Happy healing.
I get the diagnostic mamm next Friday and see my new med onc 4 days later. My poor, dear BS is in mourning. She and her whole family were on vacation this past week at a ski resort in Colorado and her healthy 48-year old husband collapsed on a chairlift and could not be revived. Devastating. They were there to watch 2 of their 5 kids compete in a snowboarding competition. They are both beloved and well-known physicians in RI, so everyone is totally shocked.
here's a link to a newspaper story: Dr. Wiggins Dies Unexpectedly
Oh, god, soooo sad. None of us is immune from grief and tragedy, are we?
XXOO
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Oh, that's horrible, Kathi, about Dr. Wiggins. Such a young family to leave behind. Isn't it ironic how he was in top form and still wasn't immune to his mortality. Like so many bc patients who always took good care of themselves. It is truly humbling to realize how little control we have over our destinies.
My BIL, who has been an avid health-nut and runner all his life is having serious issues right now and is undergoing rigourous medical testing.
You take care.
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I had my eyebrows tattooed last week before they fall out so that there would be no mistake on how high or the evil face...That would be scary to live with! They are dark right now, but will fade. I had my eyeliner tattooed several years ago and she touched that up for me too. She does not use a tattoo gun..she does it by hand. I dont think I would like the gun around my eyes!
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Okay, I'm revisiting the Oil of Olay Definity Color Recapture combo foundation moisturizer for the final installment.
I thought my skin was breaking out a little from it, and I was getting ansy, b/c I definitely need the coverage. But, I think I finally got it down to a science. I only need to pumps for my entire face. When I use three the coverage feels like too much.
I do not put any moisturizer on before it-- and it really is enough.
Does anyone have any issues with rosacia? and what do you use to get rid of the red?
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Shari, when they tattooed your eyebrows, do they make it look like little hairs like real eyebrows? I'm curious. Mine seem to thinning out and they're starting to gray every now and then.
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I've had my brows done twice, they do fade over a few years. Like Marin, I wanted them light too.
Unfortunately, I was told the second time that she was doing auburn to match my hair color, but they are just light brown---I use orangey eyeshadow to make them auburn.
I had my lower lash area lined, but was so scared of it being over done that they are too light and sparse.
My brows don't have lines in them---I have seen that and don't care for it, tho I imagine it sorta blurs after a while. She used ONE needle on my brows instead of the normal "few" howeever many that is.
I've always had sparse brows (hypothroid) so the tats were a huge gift to myself. (esp. since I STILL have to use color on them)
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