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  • stephanie1
    stephanie1 Member Posts: 131
    edited April 2009

    I had my nuelasta shot ladies at about 3:30 this afternoon. Now here is a trick - I was asked to take part in a study on taking Aleve while getting this shot. Unfortunately I had a history of an ulcer a while back so I couldn't take part. But as a measure since they were doing the study I went ahead and took an Aleve before the shot. So far I am not feeling any adverse side effects and my nurse said some people actually have the symptoms before walking out of the office. Also another trick is that the shot can sting so ask to get it in your stomach. I know this sounds a little strange but my father had colon cancer and my dad said he swore by it in the stomach because there is more fat there. It was very tolerable. But of course we are now tougher ladies right LOL.

  • stephanie1
    stephanie1 Member Posts: 131
    edited April 2009

    Hi Chelev

    I too am noticing that some smells are really bothering me. I was walking today out of Walmart and I smelled someone smoking and about gagged. The smell of smoke isn't exactly something I enjoy but never before did it bring on that strong of a reaction. So far no other smells have done that to me but I am sure it is because of the underlieing nausea and other issues we are dealing with. It seems hard to believe that we will be able to go through this for months huh.

  • luckofthedraw
    luckofthedraw Member Posts: 53
    edited April 2009

    Can I jump in?  I've been lurking/reading for a month or so, and am finally ready to wade on in.  You all have been a tremendous resource.  I met with a medical oncologist today, and he was amazed at the depth of my questions about therapies and side effects.  All thanks to you!

    It looks like chemo will start 4/23 for me.  The oncologist has given me several options to choose from, and a few days to decide.  So I'm off to do some more research....

  • sakura73
    sakura73 Member Posts: 467
    edited April 2009

    Hello all, Rachel from March 2009 popping by again. I hope you don't mind - am a very late March starter so almost feel I should be in your group too!

    I am on day 8 after first AC and want to offer you all some comfort that things do get better. I have used Biotene mouthwash extensively, as well as the Biotene toothpaste and gum, and since day 5 or 6 my taste buds have been back and everything tastes fine. The first few days I had very heightened sense of smell (meat etc made me gag) but last night I enjoyed a grilled steak and vegetables exceedingly.

    Use those nausea medications even if you think you don't need them - I did and have not vomited once, or even really felt more than a twinge of nausea.  Today, apart from some limited underlying tiredness, I don't feel like I had chemo at all.

    I also wanted to paste here some of a post I made on the March board about my trip to the naturopath. I hope you don't find it preachy. Here goes:

    But I wanted to share one thing she told me in case it helps anyone. I was commenting on the fact that I felt really lucky to have had (so far) such limited SEs. She asked me what my attitude towards chemo had been. I said I had really not thought about it much because my BC diagnosis came just as I was starting a  new relationship and that for most of the last 2 months I had been far too busy falling in love to think about cancer. She said that many studies had shown that the more positive and low key one's attitude to chemo, the more limited the SEs tend to be (obviously there are exceptions to this rule and I am not saying if you have bad SEs it is because you are a stress bunny! Nasharayne  and others, you have had horrible luck).

    I asked why this was. She said that stress produces cortisol, which produces elevated homocysteine levels. These levels are associated with, amongst other things, worse reactions to chemo.

    So her main advice to me was to do whatever I can to minimise stress in my life, so as to minimise cortisol levels. Mine are slightly elevated and one of the pills is for that. She said so many women are far too hard on themselves during cancer treatment - worried they are not caring for their families, worried they did something to bring the cancer on, worried about whether they can keep working etc - and that paradoxically that worry makes their fears more likely to come true by increasing their SEs through higher cortisol from the stress.She said we should all give ourselves a break.

    She also said that people do better on chemo if they think of the chemo drugs as a friend rather than as the enemy. A tough call, I know, for those having such horrible times as I know many here are. But she encouraged me to think of the chemo drugs as my fellow warrior in the fight for good health, not as something to battle against. She said this would make my body more likely to cope with the chemo.

    I don't want to sound preachy because I know how lucky I am compared to many. But I found her advice really helpful and in case it is of interest to anyone else I wanted to mention it. I am NOT saying that those with bad SEs have brought them on themselves. I would never say that.  It is clearly not the case.

     

    Stephanie1 we are the same age with same treatment one week apart. Hope you are doing well. That goes for all April gals.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2009

    Hi, ladies.  Welcome to the "club"!  Yes, the port instructions are pretty much the same.  Had mine in now 1 1/2 weeks, and it was such a blessing when it came to doing the chemo - if you are nervous about the stick when they put the needle in, ask them for some numbing spray.  It's not as terrible as trying to get IV's all over the place, that's for sure!

    For those women who are experiencing SE's, here's a weird one - I'm not sure if it's related to the chemo, but since I've never had it before, I'm thinking it might be.  Anyone hear or or have sort of a diaper-rash like experience?  I had to go out and buy baby diaper cream to help with the itching and redness, which if I didn't put something on, I would have scratched myself silly!

  • Nico1012
    Nico1012 Member Posts: 1,492
    edited April 2009

    gigldrl ~ Many of the gals on the boards take Senokot and Colace daily to prevent constipation. Miralax is a "miracle" laxative if these others fail. Also, remember fluids, fluids, fluids beacuse chemo is very dehydrating.

    Nico

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited April 2009

    Hi ikat,

    Where in Rockland are you?  I lived in Pomona until a few years ago - now live in Orange County.  Who is your onc?  I will be starting my chemo this Thursday 4/9..be nice to get through this with a "neighbor"

    Geri 

  • annadou
    annadou Member Posts: 221
    edited April 2009

    Hi everyone

     First chemo over -so far so good just a bit of nausea and a headache -get the neulasta jab this afternoon.

    Does anyone out there still have discomfort after the lumpectomy/node-ectomy?

    My breast is still heavy and hard and sensitive also the arm as far as the elbow.

    Any comments welcome

    Nice sunny spring day here in Greece

    Love to you all 

    Anna

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited April 2009

    Hi Geri,

    I live in Nanuet.  My onc is Dr Mittelman in Westchester. (My surgeon was in Westchester also.) The rad onc in Dr. Margaret Torrey from Nyack 's Union State Bank Cancer Center.

    Good luck on Thurs. Who are you using? What kind of chemo? 

    I will be getting a CT scan and bone scan on thurs at Nyac hospital. I will be thinking of you. 

    kathy 

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited April 2009

    Hi Kathy,

    My surgeon, ps, and medical onc are all in the Newburgh/New Windsor area.  I had a breast biopsy on the same breast for a fibroadenoma at Nyack Hospital 2 years ago.  I will be starting 4 cycles of A/C tomorrow, followed by Taxol x 12 weeks, followed by Herceptin.  I had a mastectomy on 3/18 with a tissue expander and a port placement a week later.  I've been down the road of the CT/Pet Scan/MRI of breast/bone scan etc. and fortunately everything was clear and I wish the same for you.  Yes, please think of me tomorrow, as I have to admit I am quite nervous, but then again I'm also pretty normal! Laughing

    Geri

  • Believe1
    Believe1 Member Posts: 216
    edited April 2009

    I just had my port put in yesterday ( Tuesday ) and boy its pretty sore this morning.  For those of you who have had your port in, how long does it stay sore for?  Also, how long before I can get back to normal activity with it in?  I had my bi-lateral mast. with reconstruction and finally got to where I felt pretty normal again ( as far as any activity, and sleep goes ) now I am back to sleeping on my back and scared to move.  I just want to feel normal again.

  • sherrimo
    sherrimo Member Posts: 18
    edited April 2009

    Hi Believe1, I had my port put in yesterday and they didn't give me any restrictions except no getting it wet for 3 days.  No soaking for a couple of weeks.  Lifting is a little painful so I will avoid that anyway.  I am a little sore this morning and itchy where they have the bandages over the needle that was left in for chemo today.  I'll stop back later to tell you all how things went.  Sherri 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2009

    Believe1 - I had my port put in 1 1/2 weeks ago and it's still sore from time to time - from the incision healing to my feeling the port itself - it will get better, but you are actually a little more limited in movement, I feel, than from a lumpectomy (with the exception of the sentinel node biopsy!).  I am finally having almost full movement to both my arms and shoulders, with limited lifting ability.  I sleep with one arm over my head, so I've been uncomfortable since the biospy in early February.  Port does stay sore and bruising is still there - just think, we get to feel it again when it's removed, but that will be the happiest day!!  I was able to drink coffee again this morning, haven't been able to - with the smell and the taste.  It was heaven!  And, found out from my onc nurse that the itching is an allergic reaction to the taxotere in my crotch from pee!!  I took an allergy pill this morning to see if it helped, and it does.  She said most people (I'm not normal, I guess!!) get itchy arms or scalp, but some get it itchy there and to use benadryl cream or other itch cream, and not diaper rash cream (which wasn't working anyway).  So, if there's a weird side effect, you can be sure I'm going to have it!

  • bombus
    bombus Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2009

    ikat- we both start chemo on the same day, tax day....

     i had my port put in on monday, it wasn't fun. the twilight sedation just didn't work for me, i was way to alert and able to ask questions through the whole thing. she even gave me extra drugs and i still was alert. it was sore yesterday but i think it feels a bit better today.  

  • Believe1
    Believe1 Member Posts: 216
    edited April 2009

    Thanks for the comments!  I am still getting a little numbness and tingling down that arm and hand, so I try to keep it elevated and open and close my hand to keep the blood flowing.  Has anyone else experienced that?  I am not suppose to do any reaching, lifting, pushing or pulling for the 3 wks like I mentioned, because its giving time for the tissue to grow around it, so it doesnt come out of the vein.  Thats how it was explained to me. 

    Sherri, I will be thinking of you and wish you ALL the luck!!!!!!!!  My day is coming so quick ( Friday ) and I just want to get it over with, its the waiting thats killing me.  I am glad we are all here for eachother, it makes it much easier, and does give a sense of peace.

  • TMD
    TMD Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2009

    I was a little sore the next few days after the port placement.  My Dr said to keep the port dry for 7 to 10 days--My DH had to wrap my chest in plastic wrap so I could take a shower!  Friday it will be two weeks and I feel "normal" and I am moving about, even walking 45 to 60 minutes a day.  I had my first chemo about six hours ago (AC).  It was pretty uneventful.  The port was great--just a little pin prink and I was set to go. I am drinking lots of water in hopes that this will help me.  I have put benefiber in my coffee for the last serveral days.  I eat my lunch during chemo--PBJ, some dried prunes and apricots--came home and had a bowl of oatmeal.  My DH came with me but had to leave before I finished so my sister-in-law and friend came to visit and drive me home.  The nurses were great and explained thngs to be.  I will be administering my wn Neulasta shot--Is anyone else doing this?  It will save time.  I think I can do it!  Wish me well.  Talk to you soon.

  • Nico1012
    Nico1012 Member Posts: 1,492
    edited April 2009

    This may be TMI but, many of the ladies here have suggested using a squirt bottle (like the one liquid dish detergent comes in) and using it to hold warm water for rinsing off after peeing. The chemo residue in pee is really irritating and some ladies have even reported "burning" of the skin.

    Of course if you're fortunate enough to have a bidet.........LOL.  If not,  the squirt bottle also works!

    Nico

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited April 2009

    Geri, you will have to keep us posted on how you feel seeing as you start first.  Did they say if the first treatment would be about 5 hours for you? Oh I have so many questions.

    I had a partial mastectomy with  reconstruction (breast reduction on the other side, so they match, so now I am a perky A+ at 55 ).  I will have 4 rounds of chemo, then rads, and the hormone blocker.  

    bombus tax day now has a whole new meaning for us, the port sounds painful, how many treatments are you going to have? 

  • Blondie1964
    Blondie1964 Member Posts: 116
    edited April 2009

    sakura3/Rachel - Thanks so much for your words!  I needed to hear them today.  I am having a bad week anticipating everything (mine starts next Monday) and I really needed someone to tell me (again) that I need to think about this in a good/positive way.  I was stressing majorly and now feel a bit more calm and will try to take that with me into this whole thing.  Thanks so much and you did not at all sound preachy to me!

     Julie

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited April 2009

    Ikat,

    Yes, they told me I would be there about 5 hours for the A/C.  I too had a lot of questions (and I'm a nurse, so I should know some of this stuff - but it's never the same when it's you!).  I made a list of questions (ended up with 20 of them), and asked the onc nurse to call me when she had 15 min to answer them, which she did - much less chance of forgeting what you want to ask or feeling rushed.  I picked up all my meds today to take in the morning, packed a little bag, and I'm as ready as I'll ever be.  A friend of mine gave me good advice - "fight, don't struggle"

    Hopefully, I will be able to update you all tomorow evening - hugs

    Geri

  • stephanie1
    stephanie1 Member Posts: 131
    edited April 2009

    We just have to go with it. I seem to go in waves and I am finding that resting is the key. It doesnt have to be a nap even but just sitting for a few hours and doing nothing seems to rejuvinate you. The Nuelasta shot is really starting to have it's way with my bones but a heating pad is really helping to relieve the pressure. The fight dont struggle advice is perfect. The more you try and fight the symptoms the harder it is.

  • stephanie1
    stephanie1 Member Posts: 131
    edited April 2009

    IKAT

    My treatment took right about 5 hours btw. Started at 11:00 and got home right about 5:00 - I live about 15 mins from my cancer center.

  • stephanie1
    stephanie1 Member Posts: 131
    edited April 2009

    Anna

    I had my surgery late february and I still have a hard breast. It is improving everyday. The back of my arm is still numb and I still have residual cording in the armpit. The strange thing I have noticed today (and it must be related to the Neulasta shot) is that my breasts are extremely sore - like when you are having a very bad period. And they are swollen. They look bigger so I suppose that is a plus LOL.

  • comingtoterms
    comingtoterms Member Posts: 421
    edited April 2009

    Hello all,

    I will be getting my medi-port on the 14th and will begin A/C x(4) on the 20th and T x(4) after. Tamox to follow.  Pushed it off so that my DSs will have a relatively "normal" spring break and then I can deal with what I have to on my own the next week.  I chose Mondays so that I am back in the groove by the weekends.  To the teacher out there:  I was very honest with my kids (I teach teen mothers at an alternative high school).  I don't expect to return before the end of the school year, but because I am very close with my girls, I felt I needed to be up front with them.  It seemed to work for me, although we all were quite devestated my last day in the classroom.  I stay in good touch with my long-term sub as well.  Thank you all for the pre-chemo info and even the TMIs! !  I don't know what I would do without this little "club" that I have "unfortunately" become a member of. 

    Tammy

  • florbo
    florbo Member Posts: 178
    edited April 2009

    Hi All,

    This is my 5th day after my first TC (4-6 ) on Friday 4/3.  I felt fuzzy and had a few periods of nausea throughout the weekend.  But, was still able to do a lot of my usual stuff with my little boys. My bowels were messed up though.  I couldn't tell sometimes if I was going to have diarrhea or was just constipated.  I've been taking a fiber blend everyday since the day before the infusion which has helped.  

    I got a Neulasta shot on Monday which put me out of commission on Monday night and most of Tuesday.  I had such bad pain all over.  I could barely talk or open m mouth to eat or drink.  I thought the pain was much worse than the chemo.  I think I know now that this is how I react and will dose around the clock for a day. 

  • stephanie1
    stephanie1 Member Posts: 131
    edited April 2009

    Florbo

    I have to agree that the Neulasta shot is really the hardest part so far. I am in the same boat as you right now that I can't tell which problem I am having - constipation or diarrhea. I wish it would make up its mind soon so I can know which treatment to take.

  • annadou
    annadou Member Posts: 221
    edited April 2009

    Hello all

    Had the neulasta shot yesterday -seems to be worse than the chemo.Operation site hurting all the pain is being felt there -nausea bearable with the medication -very careful with the food -dont fancy eating very much at all-had All Bran first night out of chemo now just the thought of it  makes me nauseas and this is someone who has never lost her appetite!!! Someone suggested the lemonslices in water-very good idea

    Hope this finds you all ok

    Anna

  • jlp
    jlp Member Posts: 54
    edited April 2009

    I went on Tues for my first post-chemo blood count - White count really low so they put me on anti-biotic just in case of infection. Weds had a bad time with bone pain (nurse says "oh good, that means the neulasta is working"!) but seem to be over the worst now. And not sleeping at all - must get round to asing for ambien rx!

    believe1 - I was also told not to shower for 3 days after getting the port, but no restrictions on lifting / stretching (though I could NOT lift anything heavy for 2 or 3 days in any case).

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited April 2009

    Geri,

    Good Luck today.

    Kathy 

  • sherrimo
    sherrimo Member Posts: 18
    edited April 2009

    I'm back and so far so good.  My first treatment lasted about 5 hours too.  Half of that time I was running to the bathroom to pee.  I drank tons of water during the treatment and felt fine.  Last night a had little headache and some queasiness but nothing too bad.  Took Tylenol for the headache and compazine for the nausea.  I am due to take emend today and tomorrow for nausea but so far this morning I feel fine.  I am having the neulasta shot later today.  My husband is giving it to me since our insurance won't pay the $3000 to have it done at the hospital, it costs only $10 to have him do it.  They showed him how it is just like giving an insulin shot in the belly.  He did this for his mother when she was taking insulin.  We also give our dog insulin shots twice a day.  Hope I get a treat like he does after his shot!  For anyone else doing self injections, they suggest taking it out about 15-30 before giving the shot to warm it up and giving it slow to reduce the burning.  My port is my new best friend even though it hurts at times.  They drew 5 viles of blood out of it yesterday and hooking up to chemo was a snap!  One poor guy must have had been poked 10 times before they found a good vein.  Good luck everyone starting soon.  I know it has been said before but the anticipation is far worse than the actual treatment.  Love you all, Sherri

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