Starting chemo January 2009?
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Jess,
I am also headed to Tennesse next week---hope the weather is nice.....Texans don't do well in the cold!
I haven't traveled on a plane since all this started and I don't really know how anixous it will make me.....have mask--will travel!
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BEVR, where will you be in Tennessee?
DDLATT--gosh, the more I read about taxotere, the more hesitant I am to use it. I definately am going to talk to the onc about this. Did anyone read KMMD's reaction to the taxotere ? It is on the taxotere/cytotoxin thread. Hugs to all
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glad i didn't read all of this before i started taxotere....i would have been scared LOL!
really, for me, no side effects.....other than the ones that i get from neulasta! the only other thing is that the chemo is breaking down some of my belly stitches. but, who knows why that is happening. my breast stitches are fine. i think its the SIZE of my belly stiching and the place. i guess i move around too much!?!?
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Jess,
Sent you a private message.
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My Taxotere SE have not been too bad. Mostly fatigue. Iam having some mild nuerapathy - some pain in my nail beds and ichy hands. But I have met a woman who got really bad nueapathy and having finished treatment is still using a walker for long distance and a cane for short distance and the numbness in the tips of her fingers is still there. She expects to be done with the walker in a few months, she still has trouble with turns. Every medicine has possible side effects. We weight the pros and cons and roll the dice. Much like life.
I made an appointment for a Reikie session on Tuesday night. It should at the very least be interesting. I am learnng so much about the none physical parts of myself as I travel this most interesting journey. Remember the old chinese curse - May you live an interesting life.
I have spent the day resting. DH has the day off and he took DS swimming and to school, picked up the food for dinner and prepped it. I have eatten, showered, watched a wee bit of TV and mostly read in bed. My important calls can wait till Monday.
Thanks for the joke Bev. I have a couple to share later but they are not quite as on point. But laughter is one the best meds so lets share away.
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Gah! What a day...
First Taxol scheduled for the day. I wake up about 2:30 am this morning nauseaous as all get up and running to the bathroom 3 or 4 times. I vomited around 4am. Thank you my dd for giving me the stomach virus you had earlier in the week
Fortuntately it was only that once and the other nasty stuff had let up, also.
Of course my twisted brain is ONLY concerned that they won't let me do treatment today. I had to go over because the timing won't work if I try to call them first. I walked in and basically begged for them to do it. The nurses were all pretty insistant that I shouldn't BUT my oncologist to the rescue! She told them she didn't want to delay it, bless her. So I had the treatment. I got under four of the hot blankets and slept solid for 2 1/2 hours. When I woke up I was sweating and the icky feeling was gone!
Other than feeling somewhat tired from all the festivities, I think I'm doing ok so far! Hopefully a good night sleep will help.
I never thought I'd see the day that I'd be begging someone to inject me with chemo drugs. I just really didn't want to get off schedule
Hope everyone is feeling good.
Diane
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Had TC #3 yesterday. Already had queasiness last night. Neulasta today. I usually had 2 good days after the chemo but not this time. Just enough to make me feel miserable. Trying to eat small meals and drink.
Last night after 10 pm my husband decided he needed to go to the ER. He got something in his eye at work but when he got home he said he was okay. Well he fell asleep and woke up the eye was more irritated. Irrigated it at home but didn't help. So out to the ER.They didn't see anything except 2 corneal abrasions. Didn't get home til 1 am. Eye doctor today got out a piece of metal. Thank heavens he'll be okay. His Dad lost an eye many years ago because of metal imbedded in his eye and my cousin lost his vision due to same thing. Scary thing. Well I did the driving today and he is the worst back seat driver ever!! We screamed at each other most of the day. This chemo makes me such a b---- but he was no prince today either!
jrgolomb-I have been on Taxotere with no devastating side effects. I take Decadron 4 mg twice a day the day before, of and after chemo. Facial flushing 1-2 days after- minor and brief.A fast heartbeat at times in the beginning-short term-no problems. Abdominal cramping, queasiness, bloated. Lasts about 1 week-tolerable but annoying. I started an over the counter stool softener to see if that helps.Fatigue isn't much of a problem for me but I did stop working after my 1st treatment. I can do housework with no problems but if I go up and down steps alot I get short of breath and leg pains.My labs have been good with the Neulasta. Bone pain wasn't as bad last time. We'll see what happens this time. For this week my appetite and taste won't be good but after that my appetite is great. I also developed vein discoloration at the insertion sites but from what I'm told my veins shoud be okay. I've been applying warm compresses when they get red-usually 1 week after chemo- this is an uncommon occurence. I hope this info helps.
I asked my doctor about Tamoxifen or Arimidex. He is leaning towards Arimidex. I have to research this yet.
I have my last TC scheduled for 3/27. I have to call radiation Monday to see when I can start. I want to start as soon as possible. This is my first major illness (and hopefully my last!) and I'm tired of lab work, doctor's office visits, planning my life around treatments. I know this is only a temporary detour but I want to get back on the main road soon.
I look forward to reading your posts. Thanks for helping me along this journey.
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Hi all:
Just woke up after my second Taxol tx. That benadryl drip really puts me out, and I'm going to ask my onc. to decrease the dosage. Other than that tx went fine, but sat next to a woman whose bc came back after 10 years. She had quite the story about false starts, wrong turns, the crapshot nature of this beast.
My WBC went from 10 to 3 in a week, but my onc still wants to wait to see what my body does before giving me a Neupogen shot. I really have to make sure a have a box of tissue at my side so students can cover their noses before they sneeze and snot covers their face and desk (happened yesterday--yuck sorry TMI).
Re Zometa--I'm going to talk with my onc more about it. He didn't seem enthusiastic, but I want to talk more about those improvement in prognosis stats. My good friend's dad has the narcosis of the jaw due to Zometa taken for prostate mets to the bone. It is pretty terrible, but I guess he's stabilized and taking lots of pain meds. It's more more thing to research.
I just scheduled a bone density test since my vit D levels are so low, and since I'll be taking the hormone supressants I'll be at even greater risk for osteoporosis. I believe Zometa is used for treating osteoporosis. I'm not sure my insurance would cover it otherwise.
Hugs to all.
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I had my last treatment today. Finally! Well, it's not over until I go through the side effects. It's going to be a looooong week, as I've been feeling so tired and it took me longer to recover from my 3rd. I think I'm already feeling the effects tonight, like someone said. I usually don't start feeling it until day 3.
Like everybody is saying, taxotere is not that bad. I feel queasy for about 5 days. No taste buds for 2 weeks and just tired. I stay in bed for a week, but other than that I am functioning ok.
Bev3 - I feel for you. It is really hard when a family member is sick. I had to take my 6 year old to the emergency room when I wasn't feeling well. (He was ok) When my 15 year old woke up in the morning and vomitted, I got mad! I felt so guilty, but I couldn't handle it. Well, he was ok, too. I could really relate to the arguing!
Lisa - I hope your stiches are doing ok. I remember you mentioning it before, too. Wow, how scary! it bleeding. I hope you can get it fixed, or is it something you have to live with until you finish chemo?
Well, looks like we are surely and slowly getting towards the end of this thing. Everybody hang in there! Best wishes!
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wow....the SE's of zometa sound terrible. i hadn't really gotten that far and my oncologist wanted to wait to talk about all the pros/cons since we were dealing with issues with my belly, etc.
are there any GOOD options? so hard to know. but, for the most part, i don't have bad SE's with taxotere/cytoxin.....so maybe the "worst" of Zometa SE's won't happen either!?!?!
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It is good to read about everyone being able to cope on the taxotere tx. I so needed to note that people are doing okay on it. I know the end result has been totally great-that the cancer lurking about is eradicated and the recurrence rate is definately lower than ever. That is what I focus on when I start to get stressed. I am so glad for this thread.
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Hello ladies!! I had my 3rd of 4 TC on Wed. Nuelasta last night....a little queasy and achy. I know you all know where I'm coming from at this moment! I don't want to do this any more....by tomorrow or the next day I'll feel ok and realize I can and will. I wish I could look forward to the taste of coffee tomorrow.....oh well!
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Hello to all the Jewels out there! It's been awhile since I have posted and had a lot of pages of reading to catch up on. I just had my last TC tx on Friday and am going to the hospital for the final Neulasta shot. Inretrospect with the last tx, I can say that the se's were cumulative to an extent. The first really knocked my system for a loop, and was definitely the worst of the lot. The sceond tx was much easier. I even thought I would be okay to get some days of work in on the second week. Not such a great idea it seemed since I was stuck on, of all places, a hospital set for twelve hours and came home with a case of hives. So, no work if I could avoid it, which I have done since. That was another thing with side effects: Things would flare up that I had no experience with before, like hives or heartburn, and then I would freak out thinking: What in the hell is this? When I met with my onc for bloodwork, his response was to simply "blame it on chemo." Not so reassuring the first time you hear it...but in the end he was right. As long as your blood levels are fine, these little things tended to clear up on their own with the help of OTC medications.
The big cumulative effect for me is the fatigue...and the heat flashes that emanate from my head and shoulders. They're probably not as severe as what I think menopausal hot flashes would be, and I'm 43 so I don't know...maybe they are? But I have always been temperature sensitive, and at night they feel sort of good when I'm feeling chilly. Maybe this is also the way my body chooses to help to flush out the chemicals.
And, I've mentioned this before, but after catching up on some of the posts, I've got to send a big shout out, kudos, stadium wave, you name it to all of you who are doing this with families, or creating opportunites to turn this health lemon into lemonade. LisaLisa...Best of luck with your latest, and I want to see you hitting the talk show circuits!
My mom told me analogy that she applied to life, but I think also works for breat cancer treatment: It's like a roll od toilet paper. At first it seems to take longer to make a dent in the roll, but the more you use it on a daily basis, the roll gets smaller and smaller, and befroe you know it, the paper flies off the roll and then you're at the end.
So, here's to everyone approaching the end of the roll...it gets faster and faster each day!
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My boss and coworkers were very understanding about my doctor taking me off work. Several even expressed that they were happy that I was (finally) going to focus 100% on my health for a time. I really need this now and am grateful for the time. Only two more Taxols to go, will be done by St. Patrick's Day...
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Princess-Good luck, and 10 down! Great! I've PM'd you. Hadn't seen yours til today.
Eadsla and Mimi07--Big ((((HUGS!!!!))) to you for finishing chemo! I raise my glass of (unfermented) grape juice to you two. Don't be strangers to this thread--come back and let us know about life after chemo!!!
Lisalisa--Read your blog--so sorry about your infection. Sounds painful and just one more unwanted hurdle. I know that packing thing is so hard. Let's keep sharing notes on what we find out about the Zometa or other biophosphonates. Since my chance of recurrence is high, I want to do everything I can to minimize it, and need to know more about the actual chances of the jaw problem (I do have a worrisome front cap that had become infected to the bone, so that could be an issue for me).
BevR-LOVED the hair joke, and it's short enough I can remember it!
I'm at the chemo bar every Friday, so I'll be there with anyone else getting txs that day. Day after Taxol #2, 10 to go (which means I'm half done in calendar time--have done 6 of 16 txs). Red from steroids. Benadryl wiped me out yesterday, then steroids kicked in and I only got about 4 hours sleep. Early to bed with Adivan tonight... Having some shoulder pain on mx side. Boy do I worry about every little thing now (especially since they keep giving me chemo roommates who've recurred)
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Jess - Not that i really want to know, but i tried to find that thread for taxotere/taxol you mentioned to see the SE's KMMD had with taxotere and could not locate it. Can you tell me how? Thanks
Had my first taxotere on Thurs. and here i seat at whatever time it is on sunday a.m. (I don't know if DH turned clocks last night or not
) and i am experiencing a whole new set of SE which are much more annoying than any of the AC ones were.
First my dr. and nurses have promised me this part was easier and no nausea etc. well I never had any problem with nausea & vomitting from AC but have had it since treatment on Thurs. Heartburn is a big issue too! Very painful. The really weird one is my skin. I thing I read somewhere before that someone was having skin pain. Did quite understand what that meant until now. MY SKIN HURTS!! There is no other way to explain it and it is annoying. The knuckles on both my hands are bright red and look like they have been burned. Makes using hands painful. Typing even hurts. Have you ever taken a shower with a sunburn? That is what it feels like when I shower...like I am showering with the sunburn.
Then my feet are really a problem. The soles of my feet feel like they are burned and I can not walk. Anyone else with this one? Weird.
I have worked all thru AC with the exception of one or two days and I am now wondering if I will be able to work thru Taxotere. I teach preschool and being on my feet is kind of essential.
Hope I made the right choice to go ahead with full dose taxotere. Since I have had two hospitalzations my dr. talked about changing to taxol or lowering dose of taxotere. Then convinced me that in order to have the "I did all I could do" feeling at the end of treatment and no regrets I should just stay the course. So I did as I really do not want to be second guessing at the end, but now I am like ugh! This sucks worse that the Ac and I am really disappointed because I was told over and over again it would be easier. Maybe it is just the first one that will be this hard. I do remember the Ac being really hard on me the first treatment and subsequent ones not so bad. SE's came on very quickly after Taxotere with AC ususally had a couple of good days first.
CONGRATS to those who have finished chemo. I am so happy for you. I will hold on to the fact that their is an end duringf the next two month or so of Taxotere.
Am now starting to look at what's next...radiation and then hormone therapy so I must be "getting to the end of the roll" Love that analogy by the way.
Let me hear from anyone with any suggestions about how to handle new side effects. Whenever you call the dr. at least when I call mine I always get the "Blame it on the chemo" answer which drives me nuts and isn't very helpful.
Patti
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LadyJane--Kmmd's post is on the taxotere/cytoxin thread. She basically had a horrible reaction to the chemo and encourages us all to not realy JUSt on the "atta girl" attitude and put up with the pain, cause sometimes it needs to be addressed with more medical attention. AT LEAST that is my take on it.....Hugs all
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Patti, I just finished my fourth round (of 6) of taxotere/cytoxan, I had the hand rash with the first two cycles- I used Gold Bond medicated cream and cortisone cream - helped alot. The redness lasted about 5-7 days. I had burning skin as well... mostly the first two cycles - very sensitive to hot and cold and some tingly numbness in fingers and toes. -- mild neuropathy. the threads say take L Glutamine and Vit B -- I have been and cycles 3&4 have been better. I use Prilosec OTC for the heartburn .... sounds like your walking in my shoes..... hope you feel better.
Jan 2 jewels....mimi07 and eadsla..... so happy for you and envious -- 2 more for me.
Have a nice Spring Ahead Sunday.
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Hi everyone. Well I finished #4 A/C. I had a low grade fever and my RBC was a little low but I was able to get my treatment. I got great news from my doctor. She couldn't feel any more lump. She is very happy the way the treatment is working. I didn't even have to get a neulasta shot this time. I was sooo glad. The nurse gave me some shot to get my energy going cuz I have been extremely tired but at least I don't have anemia. I should start getting energy in about 2 weeks. I also got a prescription for nexium because I am still having trouble swallowing food. Hope it works. About the taxotere- my doctor told me the side effects aren't as bad as the A/C, but from what I've heard from some of you, it can cause many ses. I was given a sheet with all the possible ses and my doctor said the serious ones would show up as soon as the chemo is injected. I was also given a prescription for Decadron to take a day before and day of treatment. Hope it works. My 1st treatment is Mar. 27th so I have 3 weeks to actually feel better.
Hope everyone has a great week.
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mimi07 and eadsla and Phyllis - congrats on finishing chemo! Phyllis, I am right behind you, I'll have #4 AC next week and I'll be done, I hope the Taxotere goes well for you.
LisaLisa - I really hope you feel better and you're belly stitches cooperate!
BerkeleyKim - chemo is even more of a downer when you meet someone with a recurrence, but for every ONE in there, I like to think there is 100 survivors as far away from that room as they can get enjoying their cancer free life!
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Wow was I behind on reading this and I thought I was keeping up.
Sorry to hear about all of you with S/e I still don't have any, just sad emotions on one weekend.
I have only 2 taxol to do, and have told the radiolgist that I am done!!! They say it only increases your chances a small amount........................I just can't go there.
I just loved the joke, and that story about a 33 year old dieing of a blood clot after port removal, I just schudlued mine for Apeil 13 Monday.............now I am a little scared, the nusres all talk about it like it is nothing.
Still working full time at school , I am now back in a two year old room and tryed to be super woman lifting all 12 children up on to the diaper cahnging table.......well how stupid was that, I thought my chest was going to rip open, so this week I changed them all standing up or had them climb up on the table. No more pain!!! My daughter will be home for spring break from college would not allow her to go on a spring breck crazy thing....next year she may not listen.
She is getting all four molars pulled on wednesday next week and as all 18 year olds think.she will be out parting that night..............is that soooo funny, I just said oh yes, you will be fine!!!!!
My head is spinning with everything I read, good luck to all that are already done!!!! Yah!!!
And hear is one about the wig I left work early to go get my nails done and a pedicure, this is the same place I have gone for years..............I know they have all been curious about my hair but I keep saying oh I just got it done, so this day my girls says Oh I just love your hair is it a wig, I said yes and she said oh don't you like your own hair.................Well that sorta ruined my relaxation that I paid $60.00 to have!!!!! I just said it is a long story and she said Oh I am so sorry for asking....................... I really sorta got mad!!!
I have cut my ist wig short and just ordered the same one again, and wore it today, sorta nice to have it long again and no one seemed to notice Yeah!!!!!
I alos wonder why some people do 12 weeks and others do 4 of taxol?? Thank you for the information on drugs after chemo to lazy to look up now but will Before my chemo doctor tells me.
I will try to get on this more so it is not so hard to caugh up!!!! Have a great week!!! Pamela
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Good evening, Jewels!
Congratulations to everyone who is done with chemo! It's so exciting and I can't wait to get there.
Day 3 after Taxol and I've had a pretty good weekend. My legs are feeling a little heavy/achy. Other than that I'm feeling ok. Not nearly as knocked out at night as after my A/C. Best of all I don't have to go for neu-bastard shot tomorrow! I'm doing the self-administered neupogen and it's not bad at all. I wish I'd been doing it all along.
It was beautiful here today, in the high 70s. We had a great day.
I hope everyone is feeling good tonight. Take care of yourselves and feel good!
Diane
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I am doing much better today. Tired but not exhausted. We able to food shop and chat with friends on the block. The weather warms and suddening you see everyone again. It is a good thing that I am OK with my hair loss and all that since DS announces loudly to anyone who comments on how I look or my hair that it is a wig and then tells me to take it off. The new wig is comfortable so far but I have mixed feeling about it. I don't look like me to me in the mirror. The cut makes me look a bit younger and a big fatter I think. Rounds out my face or something. But I don't look in the mirror much so it is not a big deal. I was thinking today about how some people seem so sorry for me that I lost my hair and how the most at peace happy people I have ever seen are Bald Buddest monks. There always seems to be such peace an beauty in their faces, though I should not speak in generalities like that. I wish I could exude such a state of being into the world.
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Hello ladies, 8 days until last treatment and already nervous about it because 3rd one hit me the hardest, I pray this one is going to go better and this will all be behind me forever. I know a few of us are having the last treatment over the next week or two, as for me no further treatment just scans to follow (triple neg) so I pray for all of you whom are going on to another chemo regime or rads.
Guess what, I'm bald (smile) and wearing it just like that. I made a mistake because I had a hot flash while running errands and took wig off in the car, needless to say when I went in Walgreen's to pick up DS Rx i forgot to put it on and I am a regular there, the young lady whom waits on me regularly commented on how cute I looked with my bald head, I had an instant of shock/humiliation and then I saw she really meant it, haven't worn the wig since and have honestly received many compliments on my baldness, even at the ong office from other patients wishing they could go bald like me.
Just wanted to share a positive note in my life right now, the little stuff means a whole lot more in the scheme of things here recently. i wish all of you well and a s/e free week if at all possible.
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Misty - loved your Walgreens story..!!! I can't imagine how free you feel to go bald.. I can't do it..maybe it's because I'm so darned unattractive bald.. lol. Congrats on making the switch... even if you were thrown into it by accident!!
That's a great story...
Pamela - I know you got mad at the salon girls but you know what I thought? I thought the fact that they said "don't you like your own hair" was a good thing. They didn't look at you as SICK, they looked at you as choosing an upgrade on the hair. And that's huge. I'm thinking your face, the rest of you looks pretty good, healthy... if you looked sick or like an obvious cancer patient, they wouldn't have put it that way or even brought it up... so I'm thinking .. take that as compliment girl... ! BTW, were you watching Idol, I can't remember... I think Adam is awesome... didn't you like him? He may be the one to beat. I am hooked on that show... not quite on board with some of the TOP 13 but still hooked....
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Misty, Also love the Walgreens story!
LisaLisa, Thanks for starting this thread, although I'd started chemo 10/1/08, I've really found this conversation helpful in gathering my strength to face these final three months.
Today is my first day "off" from work. We've had a ton of rain here and it's a beautiful Spring day today. I think I'll do at least a little weeding in the backyard. With every weed I pull, I'll visualize releasing any residual cancer cells to make room for my healthy cells.
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Steroid question -
For those of you on AC and/or Taxol, do you take the steroid (decadron) only in your IV drip, or in drip PLUS steroid pills?
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Holdbolt
Thanks so much for the comment it made my day. Since I have no side effects except the hair, I really don't look sick only on the inside!!
some were talking about eyebrow lost still don't have that and I think that makes a big difference!!! Lets hope everyone gets to keep theres!!
I too am to scared to go with out my wig almost every night I think of taking it off for the ride home..........................but worry about the looks I might get!!
I really have hidden my cancer very few people know, but now that I am almost to the end NOW I feel like letting people know???? is that crazy or what!!
Have a great week!!
Pamela
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ddlatt, starting on the day of chemo, I take one Decadron pill and one Ondansetron at 8am and 5pm each day for 3 days. They also give me the steroid in my IV before they start the Adriamycin. They call it a steroid so I am guessing it's Decadron, but to tell you the truth I've never asked them what it is.
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ddlatt: I take 2 (4 mg) Decadron pills the night before each infusion, the morning & evening of, and the am & pm of the day after. They also give me Decadron in my IV immediately before the Taxotere. The only problems I've had w/ the steroids have been touched on here before...namely, inability to sleep (hence the name "Decadron Dragon!!") and constipation. Someone (I think it was kt487??) posted some great tips on preventing the constipation -- really helped me avoid it during Tx #3! Good luck!!
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