Starting Chemo May 2008
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ranD, I can't imagine why your blood pressure and heart rate might have been high, in that situation... Glad to hear those ol' lungs are giving you a break this time. Go platelets! Go platelets! GO PLATELETS!!!
If (when) we eventually do get together, wouldn't it be fun to have a pot-luck dinner and bring or make our favorite things? Oh. I guess it would be kind of hard for someone to keep a veggie casserole hot while balancing it on her lap on a cross-country flight. Besides that, the TSA wouldn't even allow a veggie casserole through airport security, because it would violate the 3-ounce limit on "liquids" (which includes soft, mushy stuff). But I think it would be fun anyway.
rock, are you asleep yet? [Time out while otter tries to figure out what time it is in Capetown... oops: Cape Town...]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
http://www.what-time-is-it.com/
Okay, it's 6:05 a.m. where rock is, and she's probably getting up already. It looks like it will be a nice day, with the temp in the mid-80's and maybe some rain this evening.
And, here, it's time for bed.
G'night, all. Hugs and love...
otter
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Randie-That is good news! My prayers are always with you!
Julie-I don't like to cook either and I am actually pretty good at it. Fortunately, I have a DH who isn't picky and will eat pretty much whatever I feed him, even if it is cereal!
Cris-Congrats to your daughter. Loved the videos! Takes me back to when our youngest DD was, well, young.....now we are going to basketball games and watching the granddaughter cheerlead and the grandson play ball!
Found a few eyebrows today!
Night all!
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Ok, I'm pulling a Karin and having notebook open to the side so I get everyone LOL.
Julie~ Man I HATE to cook! Love to bake though. (looks to make sure adrienne isn't watching LOL). But I do try to set up a menu for 2 weeks at a time. I go thru what meats I have in the freezer and try to plan around that. I found that I actually save money and we eat a bit healthier that way.
Angels~ do you take stowaways??
Roxi~ hope your little one feels better soon!
RanD~ Glad you are doing better daulink! It's you and me on thursday. If you hold my hand I'll hold yours.
Otter~ put me down for something with chocolate in it LOL
Karin~ staples in my pantry usually are garlic, onions, some sort of hot sauce and tortillas. Oh and now fresh raw veggies.... somehow my son is 90% vegertarian in a house of carnivores. I've yet to figure that one out. And it can't be cooked veggies either... they have to be raw.
Rock~ send me some of that weather you are having. Aren't you glad you aren't in cold snowy NY right now??
Noelle~ how's the sticks? no bruises I hope.
Gracie~ YAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY baby eyebrows!!!!!!!!!!! there are more on the way baby!
I see Eddie is home from her trip. Hopefully she will pop in soon, I miss her :O) Ya know its funny...... Never meeting ya'll in person you are in my mind alot as I go thru the day. "wonder what "XX" is doing, "hope "xx" is doing better today" <--- insert YOUR name in the "xx" spot. I can't wait for that one day where we can fall into each others arms and laugh and cry till we pass out. *sigh* :O)
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ok, just lost my whole post into the ether. gonna try again in the morning.
Yawn! Cris! Rand! Go to bed!
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GO PLATELETS!!! GO PLATELETS!! (I was trying to write a poem but couldn't come up with a rhyme for platelets.
Another blood draw? Gotta hate it.
I'm just happy that Randie;Has enough platelets.
Burma Shave.
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Julie: "The glow faded..." that would be a great name for a blog, I believe. You have captured my approach to all things domestic perfectly. I am reassured by the fact that you are a home ec teacher.
Hummus -- I am a big fan. Several months ago, I had this brief moment of horror when I thought hummus was made out of soybeans because basically, I have hummus flowing through my veins.
xoxoxoxox
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Rock,
I looked up adzuki beans yesterday to make sure they werent some kind of soybeans since I had added a ton of them to my chili.
Cris- video is adorable!
RanD- glad to hear you are hanging in there- hope you are enjoying the family time and the kids are getting grandma meals!
I survived the concession stand at the JV tournament- I had to sign up last night for my time at the varisty tournament mid March and my one slot to work during a JV game (Varsity parents work the JV games and JV parents work varsity games so we can all watch out kids play).
IM GOING BACK TO WORK TODAY- glad to be recovered and going back but will miss being the at home Mom!
Kristy
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Love the new cheer for RanD - GO PLATELETS GO PLATELETS. At least we are able to find a way each time to cheer on someone who is having difficulties.
Rock - I am not a teacher. I knew that going into school that I didn't have the patience to teach. It should have been in my genes, though. Everyone on my dad's side of the family (both grandparents, all aunts and uncles and my dad) was in education. My degree was Home Ec with an emphasis on communications. I took a little of all types of home ec classes and a little of all types of communication classes (news writing, editing, magazine, photography, etc.). I wanted to work for a food company or something like that.
Back to the cooking - I don't mind doing it - I hate making something for me and the girls to eat early, but it has to stay warm nicely for dh to get home and usually what we like, the girls don't like. Katie is my carbohydrate addict and Riley is trying to eat healthy. They don't like much in the way of meat and only like a few veggies.
Gracie - I don't know if Hallmark has a card for baby eyebrows, but I would send you one if they did. Maybe we should start our own line of chemo cards.
Gotta go - Rily hurt her foot dancing around last night and she can't walk so we have an early doctor's appointment.
It's always something ...
Julie
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morning all!
xoN
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I have decided to call my onc and am preparing for the arguement. I decided yesterday to call off this week's chemo. I am looking at low counts and imagining how low they will be after this week's chemo. The ER doc was the one who finally clinched it for me. I am not pulling it off the table, but I think that my body is telling me that this crap put me in the hospital last time and even a lower dose is going to kick th e crap out of me. It also gives my platelets time to replenish themselves.
I m completely at peace with the decision. YOu know how we all overanalyze things. I got this strong feeling starting Sunday that chemo was not the way to go at this time. I will be working on buiding my immune system, started the flax seed, vitamins and my frozen fruit protein shakes filled with yummy mango, raspbrries and blueberries (Fruits available in the freezer section of Trader Joe's... they are addictive, will be stocking up soon).
I even have a huge crappy (my word of the day obviously) mouth sore that I need to get the magic mouthwash for, so I just think my body is trying to get my attention and slap me butgood, lol.
What do you all think?
There you go...
Now for the notebook section:
Julie: love to cook, but this little tube in my nose means that I can;t get near the stove...chemo cards...there's an idea..they have cardsfor everythng else, wonder how the marketing genuises missed that opportunity...quick someone call Komen, they have another pink route openign up...lol
Angels: will be there in spirit.
Roxi: my little 6 yo has a cough and sniffles. I hate being immuno suppressed because all he wants to do is cuddle and I can't...so I let him get in bed and put his feet on me t hold
Otter: Carbo killed my chocolate taste buds...
Sable: all carnivores here, but they will eat their veggies!!
Karin: still sending prayers your way....
Rock: want to be by warm sunny beaches........eating hummus!!
Noelle: Sam loves the glow in the dark soap...he makes sure its in the light all day and then runs in to check on it til he goes to bed
Gracie: eyebrows who hooo you go girl
Kristy: have a great work day, one more reason to show you are beating the crap out of cancer...go go go!
Sorry if I missed anyone....
BTW, the kids are now including "mom's internet friends" in their daily prayers. They said the list is too long to remember, so we call you the Internet 18!!!
Love you all, randie
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Randie I think if i where you I would be making the same decision, there's a point when your body tells you..whoa hang on here give me a rest and some time to catch up. And only you can know when that is. You said you were at peace with that decision and that alone I think can help you heal faster so you can carry on tx when you are ready!
I feel honoured that we are on your kids prayer list!
Roxi we are flying out of Los Angles on the 14 the day you arrive so will wave to you from the plane.Where are you cruising to ? We will be in Anahiem for 10 nights so have lots of time to relax. Jen I would gladly take you as a stowaway and anyone else !!
Noelle i hope your tests went well and glad your cat came back.
Rock good luck with your dinner.
Gracie..we don't realize how much we missed those eyebrows until they start growing back..glad yours are on their way !
Julie i hope your daughters foot is ok
Hope everyone has a great day....Cheers.
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Rand, I think if anyone knows their body the best, its you. Let your body catch up to your spirit.
President is on tv, I'll write more later. Gotta run...
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got my bf's cold. Feel kinda cruddy. Had a long workout this afternoon.
In a rare weak moment.. I am going to attempt to go to bed early.
Don't quote me on that.
Love to all.
xoN
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RanD- dont doubt your decision to take some time to help your body heal. I have a friend who is battling BC and has chosen NO treatment other than dietary, exercise and supplements- I dont know her diagnosis but it was a rather large tumor- she has been doing this for about 8 months and although her tumor has not gotten smaller it has stopped the growth. OK all this to say- traditional medicine is not the only choice (although I dont think I culd handle her decision completely) and it seems that strengthening the bldy also helps us fight the cancer.
Work today was OK- was nice to go back and nice that everyone was so happy to see me back. Had my 2008 review with my "new" boss (I got reorganized in November) and got rated nicely even though I was rarely working fulltime hours the whole year! I am glad I went back on Tuesday so only 4 days to deal with this week- fatigue hit mid afternoon and I am definitely feeling it tonight.
Well I am completely pooped out but I am thinking of everyone and wishing everyone well- I need Karins cheat sheet tonight to help!
Kristy
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Thanks for all the nice comments about Katie - she will feel like a celebrity!
Angels - Have a blast at Disneyland! I can't believe I went last summer "in between" chemo txs now!! But it was a lot of fun. We're planning a trip to San Diego this summer - Legoland and Sea World!!
Julie - Glad your test came back low. My Katie is also a carbaholic. And, yes, I think there are cards for chemo - I'm pretty sure I saw some in Hallmark!
Rock - Your party will be awesome! I am desperately trying to remember any of the vegetarian meals I used to know...[thinking...thinking...thinking]...It's not working.
Kristy - Hope your week goes fast!
Randie - I echo everyone else. You know your body. I had the same issue with Carbo - knocked out my platelets at least once, but my onc skipped the next one, and then they were okay. (I also had the same issue with chocolate, or really anything sweet, but it came back.) Sounds like it's the right decision for now.
Well, I got my "kit" today for the BRCA tests. My ins authorized the test after a week or so, but they utilize a specific lab in Utah and I had to go pick up the kit from the lab, take it to the doc's office for them to fill out stuff and now in the morning, I take it back and they do the blood draw. Whew. They don't make it easy. I also got told by my rad onc's office that when I have my MRI next month, I get to have a mammogram, too. Bonus! They said the mammo is better at picking up calcifications. Sigh. I feel "done but not done". I need Eddie to remind me that we will have tests, and people poke us and look at our breasts until we're 88.
Sending a big "hello" to everyone I didn't mention - Otter, Jen, Sue, Noelle, Gracie, Karin, Jean, Roxi - Heellllllloooooo!!! (Sorry if I missed anyone, getting D.A.T.)
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No time right now. Just wanted to say good morning to all. Class trip is today and I have to leave early.
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Off to herceptin....just wanted to say good morning all. Cris, the lab in Utah is the only in the states that does the test. Keeping my fingers crossed for you and your girls.
Karin, field trip, take me with...
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Karin - where are we going? Of course, we will be up for anything. Hope you have a fun day!
Good morning!
Julie
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~ in response to noelle's foobalistic note in fb LOL.
If some of you are having swelling under the arm from the SNB. I HIGHLY suggest getting a jovi pack swell spot for that spot. They are cresent shaped and have special lines sewn into them that makes the fluid go in the right direction to drain. You tuck it right into your bra in that area. They are washable in the washer (wooohoo) and very easy to get used to wearing. I bought 3 of them personally so I have one that can be dirty, one to wear and a clean one on the side for when I am too lazy to do laundry that day. Oh and it looks like they are on sale right now..bonus! When that area on me gets swelled up and achy I wear mine for a day or two and the swelling goes down. If nothing else, it keeps the edge of your bra strap from riding in that tender area.
http://www.bandagesplus.com/prd/64/679/Kimbe-Swell-Spot.html <------ they are not the ones ones who sell this one, now that I see it is backordered.
Roxi~ good luck with your herceptin! I got mine tomorrow.... hippie skippie.
Noelle~ hope ya feel better!
Karin~ have a blast on your trip!
Heading out for some retail therapy today. Not looking for anything particular... just out looking :O) Have a fab day ladies!~
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Hope every one is havong a good day today. Unfortunately, the sun which came out yesterday, is now behind clouds again and the rain will be coming soon!
Okay, this is getting weirder by the minute. Yesterday, I got a call from a good friend who bought a boo for me called "Cancer:Outside the Box." She said she was getting a really bad feeling about me doing chemo and that she thinks i need to break and heal. Then, dh's oldest daughter is on the phone saying the same thing! Just whenit couldn;t get any weirder, my dd's softball coach, who is a chiro, calls and starts asking about me and when I talk to him about alternates, he jumps on board and recommends juicing and for me to come in and get adjustments that he says will open up my lungs and lt me breathe easier. Okay, is that too weird??????
I have to see my onc on Thursday and tell her what I a plannig...gulp...don't think shewill like it since she is a big promoter of chemo ASAP. But, shouldn't we be able to tell if our bodies can take more chemo? I still feel tired and achy, so why would I put myself at risk for another hospital stay? Sigh, this is such a pain trying to not second guess every decision. I am not sorry that I did chemo in May, I just think that it obviusly didn't work for me, so I need to try other choices and use chemo as a lat reort, does that make sense?
Feeling better today, I am still using the oxygen, but am trying to walk around and move more, but a shower will wipe me out for a while.....so, that's my world.....lol
Hope all of us will have a better day!!
randie
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Randie--I am so glad to hear that you are feeling better! I am a firm believer that it is your body, your decision. Only you know what you can tolerate. As far as the "weird" stuff, to me, it is God's way of opening new doors and affirming what you already feel. I am here with you every step of the way, supporting you always.
Started the Tamoxifen today--we'll see how it goes. When I picked up the prescription yesterday, I told my DH that now I am paying to have hot flashes!
Saw med onc yesterday to go over mammo & US. She made me an appt to see the surgeon next week for biopsy of "cyst". She didn't tell me how many cysts I have, just that they were "multiple". She also said that with my family history of cancer, she will monitor everything VERY closely. I'll get a lot more info from surgeon--always have. So, I guess we will go from there. Told DH that I might as well go ahead and have both breasts removed, because I really don't want to have to go back & forth having every lump & bump biopsied. I know, drastic.....but I know that `with all the cysts, it will be more difficult to detect any cancer in the left breast and I am ready to move forward and get on with my life! Just thinking, venting--no decisions.
Thinking of all of you!
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I am still pulling myself together after a self-indulgent blubberfest (god, I love to cry!) but wanted to weigh in and say: you could call a trip to the meatpacking plant a "field trip" and I would be happy. I LOVE field trips. Eyebrows are wonderful things. Ditto for being appreciated and cut slack.
Cris -- Are you getting some good gene counseling? I am like a rabid dog on the point of counseling. It scares the bejeezus out of me to think there are women who are being told they have the gene mutation without having had the benefit of good counseling before they are tested. I know sometimes counseling is just not the option but if it IS an option, please take it!!!! (I'm BRCA2+. My family's results -- mostly + for the mutation, so much for the 50/50 crap! -- continue to stream in. I thank God a couple times a week I had really top-flight counseling. Gene mutations: The gift that keeps on giving.)
Randie: I struggled for awhile because I don't want to say "Yeah, Randie, listen to your body...hit pause on chemo..." and then later come to find out that that pause shortened your life in a significant way. But! I just couldn't imagine a scenario where I could see frogmarching you to a chemo that you feel like you are too D.A.T. to endure right now. UNLESS UNLESS UNLESS there is a reason that this break would be really lousy timing, i.e., a critical point in getting on top of the mets, even a short break would result in trillions more cancer cells. (I am making that scenario up, obviously. But you get my drift.) You KNOW I support you in whatever you do. I really do respect that it is your body, your life, your decision. But if I"m really honest, I hope that you're thinking of a "pause" rather than a stop to chemo. Or maybe considering consulting another oncologist to see what other options you might have.
One more thing: I once had a friend who was very very ill with AIDS. He and his partner wanted me to support them in their decision to kill my friend (not help them with it, just support them in their decision). And I told them, "You know, there may come a time for that. And when that time comes, I'm there for you 100%. But right now? I don't feel like it's that bad yet, that we're 'there' yet. I think you're just really tired of being in the hospital and feeling like sh*t. So no, I can't get behind the suicide plans right now." (I have taken care of a lot of people who died of AIDS. So my objection wasn't coming completley out of nowhere.) That was 2002. Greg is alive and very healthy. Of course, it could've turned out very differently. Maybe Greg would have gone on to have a lousy couple weeks before dying and my withholding of supportwould have made a hard situation even harder.
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Okay, so this is a pretty obnoxious post. But I don't have the energy to re-word it into something less over-bearing. I hope the concern comes through, though, and the unconditional love. Because it's felt. It really is. -
I really hesitate to say this, but, ranD, I really care what happens to you, so here's my opinon:
I know there are people who think they can cure their cancer, or at least make it go into remission, with "juicing", or flax seed and sulfur, or whatever. I can't speak for them, but for me, I would want to see the numbers. What improvement can I expect to see in my recurrence risk, or how long can I extend my progression-free survival, if I take that approach? What evidence is there that it will give me a better chance than what conventional medicine can offer?
Anway and OTOH, there might come a day when we have to make those choices. Will I feel better and have more strength, if I switch to an alternative approach? Will my quality-of-life improve?
I don't like using anecdotal evidence to make medical decisions, but I'm going to tell you a story. It's kind of like the one rock just told. I have a friend--a former colleague from work--who was dx'd with BC 10 years ago. She had surgery and chemo and was doing fine, but then she got another primary on the other side. Once again, she had surgery and chemo ... but a few years later, she was dx'd with bone mets. (Have I told this story before? Chemo-brain, if I did...) The bone mets were tx'd with rads and Zometa, etc., and kept at bay, until just last spring.
Last spring, when I was in the middle of my adventure with Taxotere & Cytoxan, my friend was dx'd with liver mets. Aaaack! They started her on Taxotere, which, despite all her other chemo adventures, she had never experienced. The Taxotere was brutal for her. She lost all her hair (again), and had terrible bone and muscle pain; and then she developed shortness of breath. Her lungs were filling up with fluid. At first, her onco thought the fluid was because of the Taxotere, which can cause fluid retention (even in the lungs). But, somewhere along the line, they decided it must be lung mets.
I saw her at a social gathering late last fall. She was in a wheelchair, and on nasal oxygen. She was terribly anemic and was surviving on regular blood transfusions. She couldn't climb the stairs anymore and couldn't go to work (she loved her job). She'd had to give up her hobbies because she had no strength anymore. She whispered to me, "I've had 10 years, and that's pretty good. I think I'm going to tell my onco to stop all the treatments." She was ready to give up on conventional medicine, and her onco had already told her that would be okay.
Instead, though, she took a few weeks' "holiday" from chemo and then started on a different chemo drug. Last week I heard she was walking on her own again--no more wheelchair. Better yet, she was able to make it in to work every day. She is feeling much, much better; and is still trusting conventional medicine.
I have another former colleague, though, who went totally the other direction. He was dx'd with a very rare form of cancer that was pretty much untreatable from the get-go. It wasn't pancreatic cancer--I don't really know what it was. But, they told him there wasn't much that could be done, and he wouldn't be around much longer. So, he went home, and he and his wife launched into a new, healthy lifestyle. They went waaaaaay organic, with fresh fruits and veggies, and .... heck, I don't even know what all they did, but it was definitely "alternative". And, his cancer was kept at bay for a long time (years) on that alternative therapy.
There is no moral to those stories. There is no easy answer. I think we need Eddie to say something about this.
Hugs...
otter
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I am with y'all for my presription for RanD.
Dear Ran, you got my recc on FB. Give it hell, but ask for a break and maybe lower doses id that'll give u a quality of life while they work out if this chemo cocktail will work. Juice, drink the purple stuff I am sending you, get Reiki, get hypnosis.. go as crunchy as all get out... but don't quit chemo just yet.
I'll fly to Cali and hold your puke bowl if that'll help, I bet we all will be there in whatever way we can! Just stay alive so we can all meet dammit!
My RNA from Jan was re-read They reported it at 49 and changed it to 50 after re-reading it....and my Feb one (this Monday) was a 50 too! which means I dropped from my original 55 in August to 50 in Nov, Dec, Jan and Feb.... which.. hopefully means we can continue Herceptin normally now!!!
Gotta run. Hosting a party for this new purple health juice I have started selling. One of the people from the Florida division is coming to do a talk. Apparently she is a little on the ummm.. not so smart side. So, it may just be a night of freakin' comedy!
xoN
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I am d.a.t. and miss you all. Quick midweek post because one year ago today, I went to my gyno because I had found a lump. I have never been so glad to have a year behind me. Even though, this year gave me you guys.
RanD, hope you are breathing easier, and being pampered, and feeling peaceful with your decision. I don't know what I would do or feel but I am a big believer in signs and wonders...and it's very interesting that you got that advice to chemopause from two different sources after you had already made the decision..you are always in my prayers, my sister.
I hope everyone is doing well. Too tired to try to answer individually but please know I think about alll of you every day.
Love,
Sue
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Okay,
You go away skiing for a week and it takes hours to catch up. So...I will catch up and post soon. Love you all. Sounds like huge decisions are being discussed. Will read soon and sign in.
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Okay, this shall henceforth be known as the chemo spring pause...okay??????
And I shall drink of the purple elixir and wonderful news shall come forth.........
lol...love you guys and I asked for your input so it is welcome whatever it is.....I want to hear all sides, otherwise I am just feeling like I am getting smoke blown up my ass
Sable/Jen...hope I didn't talk your ear off..I love hearing voices to attach to pics and emails!!!
BTW, I am writing to the Bonnie Hunt show, she used to be an oc=nc nurse, maybe they would get us all together!!
later gators, ranD
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Okay, wrote to Bonnie about us....fingers crossed.....
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Rand~ the chat was WONDERFUL! It did me good to hear your voice so strong on the other end of the line. Next time I'll have to call a bit earlier so I won't have to stop and fix dinner LOL.
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Ladies -
Just checking in to say hello and I can see that a bunch is going on here. I am catching up and posting more soon.
RanD - Praying for you. I am a big believer in signs, conventional medicine, prayer and healthy lifestyle. I am hoping that you can trust in your onc enough to have a good conversation with them or do as Rock suggested and get a second opinion. Hugs to you and glad your lungs are feeling better.
Pooch was not feeling well on Sunday and I brought her to the vet Monday. They took x-rays and apparently popped her knee while doing so. She is on doggie pain pills, hopping around on 3 legs. She should be just fine . . .
I am sooooo DAT, not sleeping because of the prednisone. 6" of snow expected tomorrow, need another look at Otter's flowers. Completely random, but wanted to say hi.
Hugs and love to all!
Jean
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Jean -- I don't think I ever wrote to express my sympathy for the reduced lung capacity. LIke with Noelle and the heart, it disturbs me to think that the treatment may have left some damage in its wake. I hope pooch is on the mend!
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