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  • DGHoff
    DGHoff Member Posts: 624
    edited January 2009

    June, Congratulations on treating yourself well and getting out of a bid situation. I'm so glad for you to be able to leave a place that just wasn't good juju for you.

    Speaking of good juju, I have some really lovely, uplifting news to share.  When I was first diagnosed, a friend of mine from work sent me to the CaringBridge page of a friend of hers who had just been diagnosed with IBC about two months earlier. I've been following her progress and she's had one heck of a tough road. She's was just 33 at diagnosis with two children under 5. She went through hellish chemo and rads and was cancer free, or so it seemed. Then a couple months later she had mets to the brain. Did more rads then a shunt to the brain for chemo. She ended up in the hosptial more than once, and we thought she was almost gone many times. But today I got an update that she is now in remission! How cool is that? It just gives me so much hope for the future for all our loved ones, and ourselves. Just another example of never giving up hope. I'm just so happy for her!

    Hugs to you all!

    DeAnn

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited January 2009

    Wow - thank you D....what great news. It made my day.

    Now you need to explain what good ( or bad) juju is............

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited January 2009

    oops. Also - June sounds like you made the right decision. Freeing, isn't it? I'm so glad for you. I hope you guys can hang in there and enjoy retirement. (Being a Walmart greeter is sounding pretty good to me right about now...........)

    Nash, thanks for the update. I'm so glad all went well and you're doing well. (smoochie!Kiss)

  • DGHoff
    DGHoff Member Posts: 624
    edited February 2009

    Juju is a West African word that refers to kind of a supernatural force. I think it is technically used for objects, but I have sort of bastardized it to equate with karma, voodoo, that sort of thing. Mostly cause I just like saying juju.

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited February 2009

    Aaaaahhh. Thanks. Never heard of it. (That's odd in itself. I've clearly spent too much time away from West Africa.)

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited February 2009

    DeAnn, I'm really happy to hear your friend is doing so well! That is remarkable.

    Speaking of bad juju, it seems like we go through waves of it on bc.org, with a lot of deaths all at once off of the mets board. One of the gals had been doing poorly so it was not a surprise when she passed. Another one had been having iffy scans that weren't completely conclusive for bone mets, and it wasn't even clear if she really was Stage IV. She'd just had a PET that showed her liver to be perfectly fine, then had a repeat scan two weeks later which showed her liver completely riddled with cancer. Then she suddenly died. While on Xeloda. So, these sorts of things give me pause to wonder--how the hell can we ever be sure that we're OK? We go in for some scan and they tell us it's fine, but things can change in an instant. I don't understand. I supposed it's the same as not knowing if we're going to get hit by the proverbial bus every time we run an errand, but still....

    On that cheery note, my MRI has been rescheduled for Monday. Whoo hoo. However, overall I have had a good week--the cellulitis is gone and I feel much better. My baby boy turned 7 yesterday (how did THAT happen?!?), and we're having a party on Sunday, so that will be fun.

    Hope everyone is doing well. Miss you all when our little thread isn't active. 

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited February 2009

    Yes, Nash-ita...I speak for all of us when I agree. We all miss each other when our little thread isn't active. I guess it's what happens when things are relatively good, and we're busy with life. I haven't checked over on any of the threads for quite some time - I'm sorry to hear things are tough over there on the mets board...

    Maybe we just can't ever be sure that we're OK...I had a good prognosis - and yet one never knows. (And that !#@$%# bus is around every corner!)  All the more reason to live wisely, appreciating today.

    I'm glad you feel better! Have fun on Sunday. My baby is coming over on Sunday, too. He's bringing his laundry and I get to feed him. Somehow they stay children in our minds. He's stuck in my mind at 4 years old. He's 23 in real-time. So odd. My mom said it was the same with me - even when I was in my 40's.  Give him an extra hug from the "girls on the board"!

  • lilith
    lilith Member Posts: 543
    edited February 2009

    Hi Nash and Kaye... good to read you gals, even if the subject is not so fun.

    today I have my mom's wig fitting - I went with her last week to check color and cut, and this week the wig-lady should have it ready for her - good timing as she just had last week her first cycle. It was quite fun actually, as the lady remembered me perfectly well - and imagine that - had kept for me for TWO YEARS a pair of sun glasses I forgot there. I guess chemo brain for me started prior chemo: I didn't even know where I left them, and they were prescription sun glasses. How the heck did I walk out of her shop and drove home????

    Mom is taking the chemo quite poorly. I don't know if she is a lot more sensitive to the products, or if she is simply older and weaker - and maybe also that she is a bit of a complainer to herself (I really don't want to sound crass, but she has always been one of those persons who find issues in every situation), but she has been terribly sick and tired. Now it is day 6 after the first infusion, and she is feeling better - finally. It all doesn't sit well with my dad either, who is now prone to tears and to hide it picks fights with everybody.

    Will life ever be back to normal? or rather, what is normal? maybe this mess is normal. My next check up will be on the 24th of feb. I feel quite serene thinking of it... I have a long list of questions for the doc. Then, another one in early summer (3 months), before switching to the 6 months schedule. I wonder what she will think of Zometa... after mom's dx, I would like something to protect me further...

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited February 2009

    Lilith, I'm sorry your mom had a rough first cycle. I'm sure it's a combination of sensitivity and age. This has to be so hard on your dad--I can't imagine watching my DH go through all this. I'd much rather do it myself. And it's hard on you. Big, big hugs all around to all of you. And an extra smoochie to the cool wig lady--that's hilarious that she not only had your sunglasses, but actually remembered to give them to you!

    And I think this mess is just normal. My family went through so many years of this crap starting with my dad's pancreatic cancer in 2000 (and actually, going back before that to 1994, when he started having seizures out of the blue. That was fun.), that we just decided all of this was the "new normal". 

    I'll be interested what the onc has to say about Zometa for you.

    And Kaye, thanks for the birthday hugs for DS. Smile

  • lilith
    lilith Member Posts: 543
    edited February 2009

    Nash-ie... I keep forgetting how many rounds of this "mess" you have been cheerfully going through. But sorry - I don't like much the "new normal". I find it unsettling on a good day, very distracting from what one is supposed to do with life... gosh, what do normal people do every day, when they don't have to call doctors endlessly? 

    Anyway... we had a somewhat nice lunch - me and dad trying to carry out a conversation, while my mom was explaining out loudly what kind of activity her insides were feeling up to. I guess the folks at the next table of the restaurant must have fully enjoyed the conversation ;)

    It was almost fun trying on all those wigs - she had a very good looking set of fitted wigs for mom, and she was able to pick one that actually (but of course I didn't tell her) looks better than her hair looked in years. she almost - almost - had a smile on at that moment. 

    I have to say that - yes - going through it again with someone else is even harder than the first time around. It is really doing a trick on me.

    Well tomorrow is another day.  

  • yellowtownhouse
    yellowtownhouse Member Posts: 142
    edited February 2009

    Hey Ladies,

    Wanted to drop in and say hello and tell you that I also don't post as often as I should but I sure don't like it when our board is quiet!  LOL  

    lilith, I think we all understand what you're feeling right now with your Mom ill.  I don't think you can avoid reliving your own experience while you're trying to give your parents support at the same time.  Each one of us had slightly different experiences with our chemo/surgery/ and rad txs.  One of the women who was always getting chemo at the same time that I was there was 89 years old.  Let me tell you all she put me to shame.....sailed through the treatment and was always encouraging others.  I personally had a horrible experience with the infusions but did well with the surgeries and rad txs.  Hang in there, I know this has to be so very hard for you as it was for Nash.  Just remember that even if she doesn't say it, she really really needs you right now and she is so forunate to have you.  I'm with Kaye as to a very different outlook on life these days.  I don't live my life foolishly but I don't delay gratifications that I can manage either.  There just ain't no guarantees for any of us! 

    On my side of the world:  yesterday was my LAST day with the hellish company and I positively feel liberated!  I had a job interview this morning and it went wonderfully well.  It will only be two days a week (more if I want it...my choice) and I should know defintely next week. 

    As to those gratifications:  I had an appt. 2/27 with my surgeon for 6 month mammo and ultra sound.  DH and I got an offer to be flown to Tunica for a 4 day trip at the same time as the MD appt.  Long story short I called and moved the appt. to the next closest open slot and we're going to take advantage of the trip.  New appt. is 3/17 and as far as I'm concerned if that little bit of time makes a difference then I don't want to know any sooner anyway.  How about that? 

    my best to all,

    June

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited February 2009

    June--whoo hoo! I'm so happy you had an interview today, and that it went so well! Keep us posted!

     Lilith, yeah, new normal sort of sucks. I have no idea what other people do all day--I went through quite the culture shock last year when my treatment ended and my mom died, which actually, all occured within three days of each other. Anyhow, I was thrust back into the world of van driving sports mommies doing Target runs, which is actually what I was doing during treament, as life had to still happen, but now I was doing it without the constant medical crises, which was just sort of weird. And it's so hard to relate to people who just haven't had a lot of crap happen in their lives, and who get worked up over everyday pettinesses. It's like we've got our own subculture as cancer patients.

    Cancer dominates one's life, especially in the beginning. So it sucks to be going through all that now with your mom when you're trying to settle into a non-cancery existence of your own. I totally understand. If nothing else, the image of you having lunch with your parents while your mom was discussing her innards was pretty funny. Smile

  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited February 2009

    Hi Ladies,

    I'm sorry I haven't been posting, but I have been reading.  I'm just feeling so yucky and sad.  Then I read Lilith's post and remember all Nash has been through and Kaye makes me feel like I need to be more grateful...so.....I'm cancelling my pity party.  CANCER SUCKS.  For us all and all our family members.

    My sister is having a hard time.  They found something on the right side that's bigger than the one on the left (cancerous boob) so she has to get another biopsy on Tuesday.  I can't explain it, but I feel worse for her than when I was going through it.  I guess because we know what lies ahead.  I just hate that she has to go through this.  I'm having a hard time keeping my faith.  But you ladies help me so much.  Thanks for listening.

    June,   WOOOOO HOOOOO!!!! I'm so happy for you.  Go away, have a great time.  Good luck with the whole job situation.  I'm glad you're away from those rotten people.

    Lilith, hang in there.  I have to agree with Nash and say I really did enjoy the image of your parents at lunch.  Quite comical.  Remember, we must see the humor in all of this.

    Nash, I'm sorry but I never realized how young your children are.  That sucks.  I was always grateful my kids were older when going through everything.  It has to be much more difficult when you're dealing with young ones.  But they do keep you on your toes. 

    Kaye, hi honey.  I guess our kids will always be our babies.

    Big hugs to everyone else.  Hope you're all doing well.  Thanks for listening to me.

    Hugs, Jackie

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited February 2009

    Jackie, yeah, my kids were 5 and 8 when I was diagnosed--they're 7 and 10 now. Both are terrified of getting cancer, given that three of their grandparents have died of it and Mommy had it. Probably a valid fear, but I try to quell it as much as possible. And every time I go to the doctor, my little one says, "But Mommy, I thought you were done with cancer!" Breaks my heart. But anyhow...

    I am SO sorry to hear that Ann's MRI showed another spot. Crap, crap, crap.  Big hugs to both of you. I do understand how you're feeling with her, though. With my family members, I got so upset I was physically ill. Couldn't eat, and my blood would literally run cold. I will never forget the day I went with my mom to get her surgical path report. It was one of those, "Oh, and do bring a family member with you" appointments. It was bad, bad, bad, and I really thought I was going to stop breathing. 

    And I see how stressed my poor DH is. If he or the kids were sick, I think I'd come completely unglued.  Whereas with my stuff, although it sucks, I can deal. I have always said that it is much harder emotionally to be the caregiver than to be the patient. 

    So, again hugs to Lilith, and extra hugs to you, Jackie. And to DeAnn, with her MIL. I'm sorry that this is all going on--we obviously are caught in a web of bad ju ju. I always thought that somewhere in a past life I pissed off some cancer gods somewhere, and I'm obviously not alone. Undecided

  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited February 2009

    Hi Ladies,

    You're going to love this story:

      Friday I have my six month check up with my breast surgeon.  I made the appointment last August when I was there.  He's the doctor I was in the magazine article with. 

    I go to the pastry shop to buy 2 lbs of italian cookies because he loves cookies and I love him.  I get to the office (40 minutes away), I sign in, give the receptionist the cookies and my check for the copay.  She tells me she can't believe I'm here to see this doctor because he's NOT there any longer.  He moved......he moved to Florida!!! 

    WTF!!!  I'm standing there speechless.  Than I get pissed.  Why wasn't I called, notified, cancel my appointment.  The poor lady is receptionist for other docs in the office so she's not really to blame.  She says everyone was sent a letter.  I never got a letter.  I open ALL my mail.  Even junk.

    Anyway, to make this long story even longer, I call back when I get home because he has ALL MY RECORDS.  I spoke to the nurse and she said his contract was up with the hospital and he has family in Florida and it was a tough, life-altering decision but the timing was right for him to move to Florida.  He's with another hospital there.  I googled him and he is because I was frightened maybe he ran away for some other bad reason.  She apologized and said I was definitely sent a letter.  I did not get it.  Anyway, I think I should have received a phone call as a courtesy.  But, it's too late now.  I have to pick up my records when they are copied.

    Crazy, right.  Do you ladies think I still need to see another breast surgeon or just the onc?

    Thanks for letting me get that off the chest that I don't have. 

    On a lighter note, I'm dragging my hubby to Manhattan today to see the play "Jersey Boys" and for a cuban dinner and I'm going to indulge in some wine.  Have a great day.

    Hugs, Jackie

  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited February 2009

    Oh, I forgot.  The receptionist wanted to give me back my cookies.  I would have eaten the whole friggin box at that point so I told her to keep them.  LOL.  Could you imagine taking them back?  Too funny.

  • lilith
    lilith Member Posts: 543
    edited February 2009

    OHHHH, jackie. I am so sorry, it is very unsettling having to change doctors - and even worse that you haven't got any warning! I hope the nurses are choking on your cookies!

    Love the idea of manhattan, a show and a dinner... cuban food is lovely, tasty and absolutely awesome - not to mention the mojitos they mix. I have fond memories - or maybe not too many memories, that is what makes it memorable. Tongue out

    I'll say - on my side, it was un-eventful and quiet. I made valentines fortune cookies with my daughter... that was fun. she gobbled up half of the batter from the bowl... ;)  

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited February 2009

    OMG, Jackie--I would have had a conniption. I hope the rest of the staff appreciated the cookies at least. That is pretty outrageous. There should have been both a letter and a phone call, especially to patients who had upcoming appointments. Ugh. It reminds me of the time I took DS for a followup ENT appointment, and they neglected to tell me they had moved offices. That was exciting. Fortunately the new office was just up the street, but still. Sheesh.

    I don't know if you need to find a new surgeon. Probably. I'd see what the onc has to say about it. In the meantime, enjoy your trip to NYC--sounds wonderful!

    Lilith--I'm a raw batter kind of girl myself. Yum. Sounds like you had a nice day. 

    We went to Stars on Ice yesterday, which I go to every year. There was hardly anyone there, which reinforced my decision to postpone our little show. The economy is just the pits right now.

    Well, I'm getting ready for DS's b-day party today. Both DH and I have raging colds, so this should be interesting. At least it stopped raining, b/c I was starting to panic about what to do with a dozen small children, other than have them run amok outside.

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited February 2009

    Jackie, ARE YOU SERIOUS? I can't even BELIEVE that! What happened when you Googled him? (that was my first thought too - like maybe he was escaping some malpractice nightmare or something...) Holy Cow.! PLUS, does it seem odd that he took all your records with him? Hmnn. Maybe not. I thought that the hospital kept all the records, and the Doctors took copies if they needed them...? I don't know. I guess the doctor would need them - you were HIS patient, etc, etc...Sounds REALLY strange. Did you ask for a copy of the letter that was sent?

    It adds pain to it, too because you really liked him, and after going through all this junk with someone in whose hands you put your life, to have them (seemingly) bale ... i think it would kinda hurt.

    PLUS I'd be interested to know what anyone elses opinions are re finding a new surgeon...I don't know what I'd do. I think I'd not bother until and unless I needed another one. (Hopefully never.) HOWEVER, I didn't have anything more than lumpectomies. At my six month, mine looked at me, said everything looked good, and see-ya. I think that's all they do for that followup - so unless you have any questions or concerns...? Well, if you do look for another one, at least you'll have time to do some research and not be driven by fear or stress.

    I'm seeing my surgeon for my one year followup this Tuesday - I'll ask him what he thinks.  I know! I'll share him with you.....! You could come visit every six months and we could plan our reunion around it!

  • DGHoff
    DGHoff Member Posts: 624
    edited February 2009

    Whoa,Jackie! That would be very upsetting for me if I found that one of my doctors was just gone! I can say, however, that the 6 month follow-up with my breast surgeon was a complete waste of time. Especially since I was seeing the plastic surgeon on a regular basis at that point. I just got the quick look and was out the door in five minutes. So, I don't think I'd try to find a new one unless you were having some issues.

    I'm thinking about you and Lilith as you cope with family going through this disease. I'm going to the Mayo Clinic on Wednesday with my MIL for her second opinion. Then she'll get started with rads and chemo next week, I think. I hope she tolerates it OK. She's going to probably be getting Carboplatin and Taxol. I had Taxol, but not the Carboplatin. Did any of you have that drug? 

    Oh, and I think my natural hair color is starting to come back! So, I'm going to get my hair colored back to blonde tomorrow! The red was fun for awhile, but its time to go back!

    Hey, what is everybody doing during the last two weeks of August?  My MIL has her 60th birthday this September and her 40th wedding anniversary. She has always wanted to take her grandchildren to Disney, but I really don't like Florida much, so we were thinking we would take everybody to California to Disneyland instead. Since I have family there, I can stay for cheap, and since both Nash and Kaye are there, well, maybe we could try to sort out a little reunion!  The last two weeks of August my son's summer daycare program is closed, so it seems like it would be good timing before he starts up with school.  So, I'm throwing that out there to get y'all thinking about it! 

    DeAnn

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited February 2009

    DeAnnakin (as in Anakin SKYWALKER, duh. If you have to explain it it's just not as funny.)....WE WILL BE HERE. PICK A TIME!

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited February 2009

    The last two weeks in August would rock, DeAnn. Just let us know.

    My mom was on Carboplatin for about a year, then randomly had an anaphylactic reaction to it, and had to stop it. Otherwise tolerated it well. Good luck with the Wednesday appt. at Mayo--let us know what they say. 

    Whoo hoo on the hair! 

    I go for my reschuduled breast MRI Monday morning, which should be interesting since I can't breathe and have a nasty cough. Hack, wheez.This weekend was unfortunately extremely busy--we had house guests for the party, then the party ended up going way longer than anticipated--in fact it moved next door b/c I was too pooped to go on, so that gives you an idea of how things went. Meaning, the adult end of the party went really well, but I just couldn't hang with it anymore. I think I'm throwing myself into a bit of a frenzy, with the anniversary of my mom's death coming up on the 15th. In order to cope, I run amok. At any rate, I'm going to bed now after I pop a Nyquil. Love to all.

  • lilith
    lilith Member Posts: 543
    edited February 2009

    DeAnn, it is a bit early for me to know how the summer will pan out - with my mom, with my ex and his visitation plans, with my SO, and with my new job. However, I did have in mind to take some vacation in August! so that might work out. YAY for the hair!!! one more step toward normalcy.

    Here schools start already the last week of August (24th), so I'll need to be back here around the 20th (jet lag is a ***** on the first day of school)... lets see. DD is a bit old for Disney (13), but that doesn't mean she wouldn't love to go! we've been to the Florida one several times, but she hasn't tried the CA one. PLUS... we may be able to "use" her as a baby sitter, while we go out party??? teeeheeehee.

    Nash, take care of yourself. It must be a very hard time to go through, anniversaries have a way to drag us back in painful memories. sending you big big hugs.

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited February 2009
  • lilith
    lilith Member Posts: 543
    edited February 2009

    Kaye! I just hope it will not be of use for any of us!!!!!

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited February 2009

    Wow, interesting article. The advances they are making in figuring out the hows and whys of all of this are amazing. Like Lilith, I sure hope none of us will ever need any of these advances, but if we do, it's pretty exciting stuff.

  • lilith
    lilith Member Posts: 543
    edited February 2009

    Hey.... 

    I just finished watching "why I wore lipstick to my mastectomy"... luckily I was alone, I think I cried and I laughed without reason, in a way that made sense only for me. I thought about all of you girls. It made me think about how our journey are all different, yet we are all one and the same.

    Hugs girls. Onwards and upwards. Love you all.  

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited February 2009

    I've wanted to check out that book, Lilith--didn't realize they'd made a movie, too. Will have to watch it.

    Well, had my MRI Monday. Onc called at 8:20am this morning. When they do that, you know they're not calling just to chat. Anyhow, they saw something on the "good" side, and I have to go in for an MRI guided biopsy. 

    I'm hoping this is a case of false positive on a new machine with a new radiologist, and not something that has popped up since last year. My last two MRIs have been clear on that side, so I'm not feeling too optimistic, but will obviously reserve judgment. 

    My first biopsy wasn't MRI guided--have any of you had it done that way?

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited February 2009

    Hi Nash, I am so sorry you have to deal with this...

    I had an MRI guided biopsy... (I thought everyone in our situation would have had them...how odd.)  Did you  have any specific questions? My memory is not particularly dependable for that procedure, but In a nutshell, they told me it would be a 2 hour MRI - but I was just in the ROOM for 2 hours, the rest of the time I was laying on the table, face-down, waiting. I was in the machine about 3 times at about 20 minutes each, and in between that I just layed there, waiting. Sometimes they checked things on their computer screens in their little glass room with a window that was toward my head, and there were usually two doctors at my side doing "things" but I didn't feel much. I had wires coming out of my breast at odd angles, very like the wire guided biopsies, and the only difference to that procedure was that they did it in an MRI machine. (or rather, just outside the MRI, and they rolled me back in there to double check what they saw/did.) I'm trying to remember now WHY I had it, and I can't. I'd already had the one wire-guided biopsy in my local hosp, and now I was at CofH. After the MRI guided biop. the BS did another lumpectomy to be sure everything was gone...(New hosp, new BS and he was just clarifying what he was dealing with for himself.)

    I'm glad you have an onc you can trust now, Nash. Are you still confident in her? 

    Big hug to you...

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited February 2009

    BTW - I'm praying for a false positive for you, too.

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