IS CANCER A FUNGUS?

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So, I received an e-mail talking that cancer is a fungus and the treatment should be with sodium bicarbonate and it's a discovery from a italian doctor and it's real medicine. I would like to know how much of it is true or false. Was something really proven?

 Thank you,

Ariadne

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  • hollyann
    hollyann Member Posts: 2,992
    edited February 2009

    Ariadne....No cancer is NOT a fungus and that e mail was a scam......You have to be very careful about bogus claims like those especially if they ask for money too......Cancer involves the genes at their most primitive level whereas the gene in question mutates and starts to change dramatically and is not like the other cells in your body....Cancer eats away the good cells.......We get losts of scammers here too who supposedly have the cure or knows where it is...Once we had someone post that the cure was in the Andes Mountains!...Who knew?!?.....But no sadly we have no cure as of yert for breast cancer.....I hope and pray it is found in my lifetime and if not then in my daughter's....Hugs....Lucy

  • anondenet
    anondenet Member Posts: 715
    edited February 2009

    Ariadne,

    There are some videos on Youtube with interviews with oncologist Dr. Tulio Simoncini in Italy.

    There has been research for years about the viral and bacterial components of cancer. Science magazine explored this and mentioned the MMTV virus. But the fungus component has gotten the most attention. I guess we will have to wait and see if more research is done.

    Anom

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  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited February 2009

    Ariadne, hollyann is right that cancers are mutated cells.

    Now, what can TRIGGER those mutations includes many, many different things: random errors in cell reproduction (which increase with age), radiation (anything from sunlight to x-rays to nuclear fallout, as in Hiroshima), various chemical and pharmaceutical compounds ("environmental exposure"), even a virus (there is a lymphocytic leukemia endemic in Japan and parts of the Caribbean and Africa that has been shown to be associated with a virus, HTLV, or human T lymphocytic virus) -- so it is not inconceivable that a particular fungus could be ASSOCIATED with DEVELOPMENT of a particular cancer -- possibly a fungus that has immunosuppressant properties, so that the body can't effectively get rid of mutated cells? or a fungus that triggers mutations? -- but cancer is not a fungus.

  • juliebb
    juliebb Member Posts: 140
    edited February 2009

    I read this too. That fungus can cause cancer. It's one of the environmental triggers.  "Mycotoxins are genotoxic carcinogens" > this is from American Cancer Society Textbook of Clinical Oncology, 2nd edition, 1995. Ty Bollinger's book , Cancer Step Outside the Box, is a good book that helps explain this.

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited February 2009

    Ariadne, the u-tube video interviews with oncologist Dr. Tulio Simoncini is impressive. I recieved a personal e-mail from someone whose friend went to see the italian oncologist. She did the sodium bicarbonate treatments along with something else natural and was cured of breast cancer. I don't know all the details, but I do know if my cancer returns invasive I'm going to visit this oncologist.

    Don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Don't let one bogus claim make you fearful of trying promising herbs or natural medicine to treat your cancer. There are good treatments and bad ones. It's up to you to do your homework to decide which is which.

    There is a lot that is unknown about cancer. Not all cancers are the same. I say, keep a open mind.  B Barry

  • Beatis
    Beatis Member Posts: 80
    edited August 2009

    Here is information on research proving Simoncini's baking soda cancer theory wrong. Research into the efficacy or baking soda has been done, albeit not by Simoncini. You can read about the outcomes here: http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/tullio-simoncini-and-the-research-that-wasnt/

  • deni63
    deni63 Member Posts: 601
    edited August 2009

    This is from Ralph Moss' most recent newsletter. He disagrees with Simoncini that cancer is a fungus but finds merit with sodium bicaronate as a treatment....

    Cancer Decisions® - Simoncini's Bicarbonate Treatment For Cancer
    http://www.cancerdecisions.com/content/view/228/2/lang,english/

  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited August 2009

    Its relatively easy for a pathologist to identify the proliferation of tissue as fungus infested, and clearly this isn't happening.  They've been looking at cancer cells with microscopes for a 100 years now and no one credible has made the identification as fungus.  Simoncini is a fraud and a deceptionist.  He distorts the statistics he quotes.  I don't think he serves science and truth, I think he serves himself.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    yes it is true cancer is a fungus Dr Simoncini has been cureing folks with grrrrr8 success. with baking soda ,,,it was used in india 2,000 years ago ....also HEMP oil taken by mouth at 3 - 5 grams a day will cure most cancers 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    you best ask the folks that have been cured by dr simoncini they are alive and well and nuts to you debunking

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    you are sooooo blind... face it the world is not flat and cancer is a fungus also hemp oil taken orally at 3 to 4 grams a day will cure most cancers  see the rick simpson story on you tube 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    how many folks that have seen dr simoncini are alive since you made this inquiry? what is the percentage of cures >>>>>try close to 100% God bless Dr. Simoncini and to the Devil with Big Pharma and their lies

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    doen't Big Pharma ask for monney?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    ask the folks that he has cured (with baking soda) also Hemp oil taken orally at 3-5 grams a day  cures cancer

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    cancer is a fungus and a tumor is the bodies last ditch effort to encaspulate the fungus colony, so when the surgen cuts out the tumor he is speading the fugus around  when you get a breast exam you  just squeeze and move the fungus around .Now look folks Cancer is a fungus and big pharma dont want you to know baking soda works also! and add Hemp Oil taken orally at 3-5 grams a day will cure cancer.So folks The world is not flat and dont listen to the folks that say it is flat  We are being lied to for monies sake,there is no need for research, it was done 2,000 years ago in INDIA.......... WAKE UP!

  • Bonniewilsonburns
    Bonniewilsonburns Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2012

    I was decovered that I had breast cancer, a rare form and would have to undergo Chemo.  On a questionaire they ask me how many times a week I ate muchrooms, I thought that odd it was the only food they ask me about.

    My 2 large toes had a fungus infection and no matter what I did I still had it.

     After all is said done, after Chemo my fungus infection on both toes was gone, I do believe they are connected

  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited January 2012

    Bonniewilsonburns, there is research into the possible cancer preventative properties of consuming mushrooms.  Ideas range from mushrooms stimulating the immune system, to acting as an aromatase inhibitor, lowering estrogen levels.  They may have been collecting data to test that hypothesis in the population of patients.

    Chemotherapy drugs are often anti-mitotic.  That is, they interfere with cell division.  This strategy is employed in many antibiotics and anti-fungals as well.  It's likely this mechanism of action that wiped out the fungal infection on your toes.  Most rapidly dividing cells are effected by chemotherapy, and that would include the fungal cells, that are somewhat similar to both plan and animal cells.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2012

    Wait! Don't write off mushrooms! They are some of the most potent anti-cancer foods you can eat.

    Eating mushrooms daily 'may cut breast cancer risk by two thirds'
    Eating a daily portion of mushrooms could cut the risk of breast cancer by up to two-thirds, according to new research.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/5000582/Eating-mushrooms-daily-may-cut-breast-cancer-risk-by-two-thirds.html

     See also:

    Medicinal mushrooms have latent cancer preventative properties. Studies in Japan and Brazil strongly suggest that regular consumption over prolonged periods significantly reduce the levels of cancer incidence. Cancer Research UK also found increasing experimental evidence that medicinal mushrooms can have a cancer preventative effect, demonstrating both high anti-tumor activity and restriction of tumor metastasis. A 14-year survey in Japan revealed cancer rates of workers at medicinal mushroom farms were 1 in 1000 compared to 1 in 600 for the general population.

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/29068.php

  • MsBliss
    MsBliss Member Posts: 536
    edited February 2012

    Anything that causes inflammation on a chronic basis may shatter a chromosome or tweak DNA which could lead to some types of cancer. But the cancer is not in and of itself a "fungus". Aflatoxin is a fungus that causes liver cancer, but the cancer is the result of those effects, and the cancer is not in and of itself a fungus. There may be some merit in baking soda as a part of a larger therapy program but, it is not proven truly effective. Cancer has the ability to create an acidic micro-environment, even in the most alkali conditions. In fact, the more alkali certain cellular environments are, the more this reaction by cancer cells can be deepened. It is not as simple as using infusions of baking soda unfortunately.

  • castleone
    castleone Member Posts: 1
    edited February 2012

    Sodium Bicarbonate....

    This article show significant benefit from the use of sodium bicarbonate.  Please read!

    My wife is battling breast cancer...a second time!  And this is after over 16 months total of chemothearpy and 6 weeks of radiation treatments. Give other treatment protocols a chance to be tested by non-biased medical researchers!  The article:

    Add to My Bibliography Cancer Res. 2009 Mar 15;69(6):2260-8. Epub 2009 Mar 10.

    Bicarbonate increases tumor pH and inhibits spontaneous metastases.Robey IF, Baggett BK, Kirkpatrick ND, Roe DJ, Dosescu J, Sloane BF, Hashim AI, Morse DL, Raghunand N, Gatenby RA, Gillies RJ. SourceArizona Cancer Center, University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona, USA.AbstractThe external pH of solid tumors is acidic as a consequence of increased metabolism of glucose and poor perfusion. Acid pH has been shown to stimulate tumor cell invasion and metastasis in vitro and in cells before tail vein injection in vivo. The present study investigates whether inhibition of this tumor acidity will reduce the incidence of in vivo metastases. Here, we show that oral NaHCO(3) selectively increased the pH of tumors and reduced the formation of spontaneous metastases in mouse models of metastatic breast cancer. This treatment regimen was shown to significantly increase the extracellular pH, but not the intracellular pH, of tumors by (31)P magnetic resonance spectroscopy and the export of acid from growing tumors by fluorescence microscopy of tumors grown in window chambers. NaHCO(3) therapy also reduced the rate of lymph node involvement, yet did not affect the levels of circulating tumor cells, suggesting that reduced organ metastases were not due to increased intravasation. In contrast, NaHCO(3) therapy significantly reduced the formation of hepatic metastases following intrasplenic injection, suggesting that it did inhibit extravasation and colonization. In tail vein injections of alternative cancer models, bicarbonate had mixed results, inhibiting the formation of metastases from PC3M prostate cancer cells, but not those of B16 melanoma. Although the mechanism of this therapy is not known with certainty, low pH was shown to increase the release of active cathepsin B, an important matrix remodeling protease.PMID:19276390[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] PMCID:PMC2834485

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012
    Thank you Castleone, I had seen that study, but could not find it when needed.  Will make sure to file it this time Smile
  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited February 2012

    castleone, that is very interesting work regarding sodium bicarbonate and its effects on the tumour environment.  Thanks for bringing it to our attention.  Is any one aware of any human studies along that line?

  • deepeshsoni
    deepeshsoni Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2012

    Cancer is NOT a fungus but a fungus may cause cancer. The author of this book or whatever has have used a very clever marketing maneuver. The cancer is an uncontrolled division of cells caused due to mutations in proto-oncogenes and in tumor suppresser genes. Unless proved scientifically, do not believe in such hornswoggle.....Cool   

    Regards

    Deepesh Soni

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    deepeshsoni, first, this is not a book, but a clinical study - do you suffer from breast cancer ?

  • Charles_Pelkey
    Charles_Pelkey Member Posts: 182
    edited April 2012

    Cancer is a fungus?!!?!?!

    Speaking as a BRCA2 positive (8765delAG mutation), I believe the correct medical term for that theory - using the appropriate Latin terminology, of course - is "tauros excrementa," although I do like deepeshsoni's use of "hornswoggle."

    Meanwhile, with all due respect Maud, it looks as if Deepeshsoni's cred's are as a cell biologist. I'd like to hear what he has to say, personal experience with breast cancer or no.

  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited April 2012

    I am reading this thread through parted fingers!  Completely fascinated with this theory, believing it, may be a whole different matter! 

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited April 2012

    Charles I like your sense of humor! 

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited April 2012

    Charles .. love your Latin!

    Bren

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