The Respectfully Republican Conversation

Sherri

Is that 9 pm eastern or 11 pm eastern....

10pm Sherri ... I don't get home til just after 6, my friend.  I want to get Little Miss Muffet a snack, look up some scrips and post them ... then she and I will be able to focus and pray with you all at 7pm our time.  I believe prayers are powerful weapons against our enemy. We know God will hear our prayer and he will answer --- let's pray that His Will is for healing ..  I mean she can't grow a new gland, but hopefully the dr's will have a quick solution to this.

I am laughing because we cannot get this time straight!! Okay, Rock, you pick the time and we will run with it!! Also, if you can add a verse to Sherri's prayer and put it together that would be great. Then we can say the same prayer together.

If we do a prayer thread more can join us. 

Matthew 18 v19

The Power of United Prayer:

"I say to you further, that if two of you shall agree on earth about anything at all for which they ask, it shall be done for them by my Father in heaven.  For where two or three are gathered together for my sake, there am I in the midst of them".

Moody, geez....I have to admit....I LOVE YOU!  LOL  You are a wonderful mom and still have your humor although you are going through one of the MOST difficult times in your life.  Yep, the most difficult is...HYSTERIA FROM A KID!  LOL  Seriously, waiting and waiting and watching your child suffer is horrible.  I am glad they found the problem...now the solution.  And I used to worry myself to death when my oldest got an ear infection!  Long story.

Looks like Beesie has something for you to read.  I have an empty place in my brain, but I'm sure you already noticed! 

Please let us know when you find out what's next.  I know you and Olivia will be soooo happy to go back home and sleep in your own beds.

{{{{{{{{{{{Big hugs for YOU and OLIVIA}}}}}}}}}

Shirley

I can see I'm going to be talking to myself for a while.  But that's okay..I'm used to it!

I found this to be VERY interesting about Dashle's healthcare "possible" plans.  Kinda scary if this is what he really thought.  We really need to keep an eye out for this stuff.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/02/how_the_stimulus_bill_could_ki.html  

How the Stimulus Bill Could Kill You

By Douglas O'Brien

When you read through the nearly seven hundred pages of the House stimulus bill it is easy to begin dozing off after a few hundred billion dollars worth of run-of-the-mill wasteful government spending.  One has to keep a keen eye out for the components of the bill that don't just steal your money, but that may actually do you great physical harm, if not kill you outright.
On page 151 of this legislative pork-fest is one of the clandestine nuggets of social policy manipulation that are peppered throughout the bill.  Section 9201 of the stimulus package establishes the "Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research."  This body, which would be made up of federal bureaucrats will "coordinate the conduct or support of comparative effectiveness and related health services research."

Sounds benign enough, but the man behind the Coordinating Council, Health and Human Services Secretary-designate (and tax cheat) Tom Daschle, was kind enough to explain the goal of this organization.  It is to cut health care costs by preventing Americans from getting treatments that the government decides don't meet their standards for cost effectiveness.  In his 2008 book on health care, he explained that such a council would, "lower overall spending by determining which medicines, treatments and procedures are most effective-and identifying those that do not justify their high price tags." 

Once a panel of government experts decides what is and what is not cost-effective by their definition, the government will stop paying for treatments, medicines, therapies or devices that fall into the latter category.  Initially, this will limit access to very expensive treatments for federal employees, veterans, the elderly, members of the military and their dependents and others who rely on the feds to pay for their health care.  But since this would place nearly half of health care dollars off limits for such treatments, the demand for and further development of such treatments would likely dry up.  And Daschle wants to expand the Coordinating Council's power even further, allowing the government to deny tax benefits for private insurance that covers treatments deemed too expensive by the Council.  Thus, if a handful of government employees deem a therapy not cost effective, no health insurance will cover it and it will become virtually unobtainable to patients at any cost.

Mind you, they are not simply looking to exclude treatments that don't work, but to exclude treatments that are effective, but whose cost, in their opinion, does not justify their use.  You, the patient, and your physician don't get a vote. This would make the federal government the single most important decision-maker regarding health care for every patient in America. 

This is also another wonderful example within the stimulus bill of infantile economics.  When something is new it is usually expensive, (think $3,000 VCR's back in the ‘70s).  As supply increases, two important things happen.  First, innovations take place that improve the product.  Second, the cost comes down.  If the feds step in and say, no, that new treatment is too expensive, it will never have the chance to become better, the supply will not increase and it won't become more cost-effective.  It will just die on the shelf, and so will the patients who potentially could have benefited. 
 

For example, scientists have found that proton beams can be used to destroy cancerous tumors by pinpointing the beam on a tumor diminishing the collateral damage to surrounding tissue that often accompanies conventional photon radiation treatment.  Five facilities in the United States offer proton therapy at places like Massachusetts General Hospital and the University of Texas.  The five can treat a total of about 8,000 patients a year.  Protons are most beneficial for children who can suffer severe developmental side-effects from radiation treatment.  But the therapy is expensive, often running over $100,000 for a six-week course of treatment.  But as new proton treatment facilities are built, improving the delivery of the therapy and increasing its supply, prices will decrease and quality will improve.  But how will a panel of bureaucrats react to this situation?  Will they allow insurance to cover a treatment that can be many times more expensive than conventional care and let it reach its full potential?  Or will it be blackballed for future patients in the name of cost-containment? 

Imagine the conversation:  Parents are told that their daughter has a brain tumor.  Doctors will immediately begin radiation treatment to destroy the tumor.  But they also tell the parents that bombarding the child's brain with radiation will likely have developmental impacts.  The doctors lament that there once was a better way to deal with this situation with a higher success rate and virtually no side effects, but some people in Washington decided it was too expensive and the centers that offered it closed and no one persisted in further developing the therapy. 

Repeat this scenario time and time again and you will glimpse health care in the Age of Hope and Change.  Emphasis will be shifted to prevention and management of chronic illness-an excellent idea and potentially very economically beneficial.  But health care will be frozen in time.  New treatments come on the market at very high costs and most often represent incremental improvements over existing care.  That is how progress works and that is why we live longer lives than our great-grandparents.  But that is exactly the kind of progress that Daschle and his Coordinating Council will be targeting in order to limit health care spending.  It is a perfect example of the way socialized medicine rations care in the name of equality of access and proves the old Canadian axiom that, "national health care is wonderful, unless you get really sick."

Now, all this time, we have been told that Republicans were the ones who only saw health care in terms of dollars and sense and that the Democrats were champions of the needs of the ordinary people.  The reality is the exact opposite.  A market-based system promoted by many Republicans allows patients to control their care rather than bureaucrats and encourages innovations that save and prolong lives.  Under this new health care order, it will be the express task of government employees to stand between you and your family and potentially life-saving care, all in the name of dollars and cents. 
 

Douglas O'Brien is a public affairs consultant and served in the Department of Health and Human Services in the Bush Administration. 
 

I have been praying and will unite in prayer with all the sisters and the brother here at 9:00 Central time. Karen and Olivia, praying for peace and a quick solution, so no more weight is lost and an end to the hysteria.

Thanks to all here for all of the information on the happenings in the government. I just don't have time to do all the research you do and appreciate your postings. I really trust all the honest people here, my husband and his reporting of income, is right there with the best of you. 

Well, Obama should be embarrassed by wanting this oink bill.  He didn't read it.  He's a lawyer, right?  Doesn't he know that before you sign something you're suppose to read the fine print?

So, lets see.  Putting people back to work...training them to weatherize homes...Heck we just weatherized...at the tune of $2,000 for the attack and underneat the house.  No government agent to help pay for ours.  And, we will NOT recoup that money for yyeaaarrrrrssss!  We cannot affored to buy those nice new kind of windows that flip out (have about 22 windows..would be thousands..think the government would pay for it?), but we do have those old timey storm windows.  My husband can do the weather stripping if we need it.

Don't be fooled by Obama's "reaching across the isle (or is it aisle, or I'll).

Oh, and the dummy must not have known or if he did know that MADE IN THE USA ONLY was not going to help...oh, I guess he wouldn't.  What the heck does he know about economy?  Or running a nation?  Or hiring tax dodgers?

I can GAURANTEE you that President Bush would have NEVER even have thought about signing a bill that said no steel except for made in the USA.  He wasn't that supid!  And, the repubs wouldn't have written something like that in the first place.  Only demwits!

Shirley

Shirley, If you EVER change the way to post to me here, I will never speak to you again!!!!!  Keep the humor coming, I love it amd so does Olivia!!!!!  GOT IT?  I can beat you up, I am strong you know!  And yes, you do have an empty cavity in your brain.

As for the rest of you:

Rock, I am balling my eyes out at your beautiful prayer and scriptures.  Everyones prayers touch both mine & olivia's hearts, she LOVES when I read them to her.

I've told her about the prayer vigil you guys have planned and she is THRILLED and called all her friends telling them "These ladies and one guy from moms breastcancer friends all across america and some in canada are going to pray for me tonight at the same time."

you guys, I dont know if I could EVER express how much your strength and your prayers and your love and your HUMOR has kept me sane!!!  GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU!!!

I know God sends.  He always does.

Karen and Olivia - you are wrapped in all of our prayers.

Karen and Olivia - there's many, many prayers being sent your way. Best wishes to you for a speedy recovery!

Well actually if Shirley had spent a little more time searching for that dang birth certificate we might not have to live with him for the next 4 years................Shokk

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1873901,00.html

If we want we can read the entire 1500+ pages of the stimulus package.  They're looking for volunteer readers so we can find out exactly what's in it..the small print, so to speak.

http://www.readthestimulus.org/

I started reading it.  A lot of the money, though I lost count, is being held till 2010 for different purposes.  That's number 1.  Hmmm, this was suppose to get money to hit the streets this year to stimulate employment, now.  So what's the rush to put a bad bill in place if they're holding back so much money?

I am watching my baby girl slowly starve to death and there is nothing I can do to help her.  While these freaking doctors argue over who should be treating her, she is deteriorating.  she has had NOTHING in 7days and now she is too weak to get up to go to the bathroom.

She got so bad starting about 9:50 and it lasted till 4:00am.  They had given her all the meds they could and nothing worked.  I dont understand why God doesnt heal her or send in the right doc with the right treatment.  I dont understand what purpose there is in her suffering so much.  I dont understand any of this and I need it to go away.