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  • ijl
    ijl Member Posts: 897
    edited February 2009

    On the other hand his Republican nominee for Commerce Secretary Judd Gregg appears to be "clean". Maybe Obama will turn to Republicans now for his nominees.

    BTW I haven't seen it mentioned here but  Performance Czar Nancy Killefer also withdrew her candidacy.

  • ijl
    ijl Member Posts: 897
    edited February 2009

    Sherri,

     Wonder who the other 12% are? 

    Good quesiton. Even our friends on the other thread are silent.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    I guess we should feel bad ... I feel just sick about this whole thing.  It would have been great if we were wrong about him.  I would have been ready to eat my words and still will, if he turns things around. 

    The sickening part is that many, many people were saying that he was not properly vetted.  Where were his old friends? Where are the new people he's going to appoint to bring in change?  We heard people asking what his plans were .. Hope and Change ARE needed, he was right about that. But how he was going to bring it about was never something he put into print or tried out on a local playing field.  The man simply appealed to the populace like a snake charmer or the Pied Piper.  Right words, no plan. 

    Then he brings in the people that his own staff hadn't researched before putting them on display? This is the action of an inexperienced man.

    Ok .. so, we could say, "Told ya so,"  but I don't want to say that.  I really want him to get some people in there that will help us.  Maybe he should call Palin!  LOL .. Seriously, maybe he should get some sound advice from some experienced people who have brought companies back from the brink .. and keep Madame Frozen Face away from the WH!  I would also not be adverse to using Bill Clinton as an advisor; he should look at Reagan's policies, too. 

    What a mess!

  • suzfive
    suzfive Member Posts: 456
    edited February 2009

    Sherri - Got the petition from McCain and signed it too. Somewhere I think it mentioned to pass it on to family and friends.

    The other 12% have their heads in the sand.

  • suzfive
    suzfive Member Posts: 456
    edited February 2009

    BO has no LEADERSHIP ABILITY.  Who would stick by someone who had not paid their taxes - especially someone who had made 5 million dollars over the last two years. These people (Geithner and Daschle) are educated, can more than afford a good tax accountant - there is absolutely no excuse. As soon as the tax problems came up for Daschle - BO should have taken his name out of consideration. It took just about every news organization in the country to say NO MORE for Daschle himself to withdraw - had he not - he would have been confirmed by the Dimwits in the Senate - who don't see a problem with Democrats who are rich not paying their fair share of taxes.

  • suzfive
    suzfive Member Posts: 456
    edited February 2009

    Unfortunately, the people voted in BO and gave his party big majorities in the House and Senate - so fasten your seatbelts - the next four years will be a h@!! of a ride! BO doesn't have it in him to stand up to his party - especially to Pelosi and Reid - they will pass things through and he will sign them. That's what happens when you side with your party 97% of the time.

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2009

    Are you ready for this?  In the stimulus package there's an earmark to give Hollywood a 50% tax break.  We saw all those stars coming out supporting their leader and here's the payoff for them.  There's legislation being offered to slash the Hollywood earmark out of the package.  McCain is up and talking about it. He also is saying that again there still is resistance from the Dems for them go get together and get this package done right.  This is so pathetic. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Two of the wealthiest are well taken care of:

    Wall Street

    Hollywood

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Palin put the Alaskan checkbook online so the citizen's could see every single check that the state writes.  Talk about transparency in and of government! 

    Maybe BO will get fed up with these thugs and demand true change ... maybe he can force them all to come clean with taxes!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Babara Boxer is right now griping because the Republicans want to take their time and GET THIS RIGHT! 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    The big board is liking what the Repubs want to do.  Boxer is still running her mouth.  I believe there's gonna be a big fight.  I'm still mad as hell about the subprime mortgate crap!  So, I say SHUT UP.

    Boxer..."mr pres I'm so disapointed."  Something about he's reaching out to the other side.  BS!  Yeah, he's listened.  He's got big ears.  But no brain!  Yell

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009
    Rocky, I don't think we even want to ask Palin any questions.  I heard she was for this plan.  Undecided
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    ijl, just part of the article.

    From N.Y. Times

    Not the whole article. And this is peanuts compared to the other two.

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nancy Killefer, who failed for a year and a half to pay employment taxes on household help, has withdrawn her candidacy to be the first chief performance officer for the federal government, the White House said Tuesday.

    Killefer was the second major Obama administration nominee to withdraw and the third to have tax problems complicate their nomination after President Barack Obama announced their selection.

    "Nancy Killefer has decided to withdraw her nomination, and we accepted her withdrawal," Tommy Vietor, a White House spokesman, said Tuesday. The 55-year-old executive with consulting giant McKinsey & Co., was expected to explain her reasons for pulling out later in the day.

    When her selection was announced by Obama on Jan. 7, The Associated Press disclosed that in 2005 the District of Columbia government had filed a $946.69 tax lien on her home for failure to pay unemployment compensation tax on ho

  • pzl
    pzl Member Posts: 36
    edited February 2009
    One more thing on Dashle from Glenn Beck: he failed to pay Medicare taxes for his driver. Apparently he didn't know about Medicare taxes and this guy was supposed to be in charge of Medicare.

    You know I can't recall any other time when there was such a debacle with presidential nominees. I think Obama is beating all the records.

    It would have been funny if it were not so sad.

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2009

    I think the repubs will submit amendment after amendment for each part of this package, which will need to get voted on.  Or, they could sit down together and get it done correctly, and then just vote on the package.  So we do amendment after amendment.  I'm in for that. 

    It worries me that the Rep. Senator Gregg?  will take the job leaving us one vote short of a filibuster.  They won't get his replacement there fast enough.  We have to watch this.

    The Mikulsky amendment looks good.  A rebate if we buy American made cars this year that will include getting the interest back for the loan too.  Not a bad idea. 

    Edited to say, the excise tax and interest is tax deductable for this year.  I like it. 

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2009

    The Republican plan that McCain has outlined, does have business tax deductions in it, and the total cost will be half of the dems plan.  $445 billion. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    From what I've heard is that Obama knew about Daschle's tax problem when he was vetted.  So, what's that say about Obama?  Also, I believe he knew about Geithner's.  Did he think this country would just sit there and accept these people?  Of course he did.  After all, he's the Messiah.

    I am also hearing that Obama didn't have to accept Daschle's resignation.  He could have said no...you're in.  And probably Daschle would have been voted in.  However, after reading the NYT and other papers Obama et al knew that Daschle would be a burden.  Think about it..all was well last night.  Then, when people started turning on Obama, Daschle withdrew.  Thank God Bush didn't follow polls.

    I want things "fixed" too.  However, Obama has no experience to know how to do this.  He'll leave  it up to Pelosi and Reid.  I doubt Obama even read this mess.  He told the congress that he wanted a bill to sign as soon as he was sworn in.  So, they threw something together that is absolutely ridiculous..not stimulus.

  • suzfive
    suzfive Member Posts: 456
    edited February 2009

    BO is just as bad as the rest of them - he just got lucky - his mother-in-law took care of his kids for free!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009
    Suz, what I'd have given to have someone to take care of my children FOR FREE!  However, I was a stay at home mom.  But it would have been nice when I wanted to go window shopping. Laughing
  • jerseymaria
    jerseymaria Member Posts: 770
    edited February 2009

    not to change the subject but has anyone heard from moody with an update about olivia?  my senators are both dems so i guess i won't be getting an email from them, lol.

  • ibcspouse
    ibcspouse Member Posts: 613
    edited February 2009

    The argument, Taxes are just too complicated and the nominees just made a common error is a very stupid statement.  I am a CPA, I don't practice anymore, but have a nice 30 years background in Taxes.  Dashel had a CPA, when Dashel turned over his information to have his return prepared, there are a few key flags that any Accountant would note.  Dashel was a self employed consultant.  He consulted with a law firm (means lobbyist firm) he was a consultant for drug companies and a big dem supporter.  One of the first thing the CPA would have looked at was expenses, including a main one of transportation.  If the CPA did not ask about travel and automobile expense of a traveling consultant and a fee paid public speaker, then the accountant is guilty of mal practice.  If Dashel said no I don't have a car and ask how do you get around(taxies or such), or a car is provided, the accountant would file that as income.  If a company that paid Dashel over 80000 dollars a month, did not provide a 1099, the CPA would have immediately contacted the Co. to request one so if one was later filed, it would not conflict with the estimate of his client. 

    What I am saying, that the only way this could be an accidental omission was for the CPA to have committed such gross malpractice that his license would be revoked.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Then the CPA should step up to the plate and take it like a man. Smile  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    HAHAHAHA Laura.

    IBC, you were an accountant?  I thought they were supposed to be boring.  You're not boring.

    I thought I heard that Daschel asked his accountant if the car and driver was included in income and the accountant said yes.  What do I know.

    My dh didn't receive a 1099 for  a little over $700.  He could have left it off our income tax..he prepares ours..we're not rich..it's simple for him..and yes HE'S BORING!  Anyway, my dh still listed it cuz he was afraid he'd get audited.  And he wasn't taking a chance.  When he did his CAD from home he would not list the room (one of the extra bedroom since all the kids moved outFrown) because he didn't want them to walk in any time they wanted and see it was used for other things besides business.  AND, HE'S TOO HONEST TO CHEAT ON HIS TAXES!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    I have to make a correction to something I said earlier.  Palin is not for THIS stimulus package. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Maria, I don't think any of us have heard from Moody.  I hope the docs have found out what's going on.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Many normal people are so terrified of being audited by the IRS that they don't take deductions they are legitimately entitled to, like charitable deductions, or milage for volunteer work, for fear of triggering an audit.  They are worried that an audit might turn up a mistake, and then they would be facing harsh penalties, and possible jail time.

    Why are so many political appointees seemingly unable to correctly document their income, and pay their taxes in a timely manner?  And why are they then given a "pass" for their mistake?

    Even if you use a CPA, you are the one who provides the information and documentation, so if that is not accurate, it is your fault.  The CPA may not be aware of every job you held during the year if there were multiple ones, but it is your duty to tell the CPA, and to notice if something is missing before you sign the tax return.

    Do you think we will be seeing a kinder, gentler IRS that allows regular folk to remedy "mistakes" on their tax returns without problems, or is that treatment only available for political appointees?

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2009

    Shirley,

    Am I ever glad you corrected your earlier statement about Palin.  I knew she couldn't be supporting it.  Only 27% of those polled are supporting it in this format. 

    I heard Boxer telling the Repubs to roll up their sleeves and get together with them to fix it.  Reid must have been dying.  He didn't invite them to the stimulus planning party.  What is she thinking? 

    Hollywood didn't get their tax deduction.  The vote was a close call.  52 to 45, Mikulski amendment goes in, but I almost dropped when I heard the cost....$11 Billion.  I probably would have voted against it after hearing that.  But who wants car companies coming back for gazillions?  This time, we get the break. 

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2009

    I remember this to this day.  During Reagan's time, he said the IRS would be a more friendlier place to do business with.  They did make corrections to their helpfulness. 

     I filed my return, and I get a letter back.  FEAR!  I open it, it says if I amend my tax return and do A,B, &C I will get more money back.  I thought it was a joke letter, but I did it.  A month later, there in my mail another letter from them, if I send in another amendment and do a different A, B, & C, I'll get more money back.  I did it, and sure enough.  I couldn't wait for my mail after that.

    That only lasted for as long as Reagan was Pres.  Now you send in a tax return and if your due a deduction, you find it.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Same here...I free-lanced from home for the past 6 years...my dh (not boring...most of the time) did my taxes (1099) every year. I was always urging him to take my deducts to the limit. But Shirley, like your dh...he too didn't want the hassle of an audit or them nosing around our house. One year, the company I free-lanced for didn't send out 1099's (too lazy?)...legally they don't have to, but legally I still had to file/pay! Cry I will admit - for a minute or so, I thought...hmmmmmmmmmmmm... but the ol' conscious kicked in and dh WOULD NEVER have allowed it... he's slightly more conservative than me. I gathered all my pay stubs and paid - to the penny - what I owed. Please don't think I'm patting myself on the back...not the point. But I know you all know the point. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    I am glad these guys are getting caught but because they are law makers, there should be a bigger fine for getting in to trouble ... I mean, look at what happened to the Republican in Alaska for what he did (and yes! I think it was right to kick him out of office)!  Stephens should never have accepted those "gifts" and these people, these pols, should be in big trouble too!  How can any breathing person think this was an honest mistake?  His back taxes are more than the average American makes in a whole year!

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