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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2009

    Thanks, Beesie.  Obama, in that cartoon up there, basically says the same thing.  Sometimes it takes a lot of digging to find the truth.  I'm afraid the digging was done before this election.  JMHO.

  • suzfive
    suzfive Member Posts: 456
    edited January 2009

    We actually do need more free trade agreements. 95% of the worlds consumers live OUTSIDE the United States. Fair trade would probably be more accurate. Our problem is producing goods that people in other countries can afford to buy.

    I think Obama is filling his cabinet with tax cheats (crooks) so he will feel more at home (Chicago) - just like he has the thermostat in the White House raised high enough that it feels like Hawaii. He says one thing and does another. I have gone to whitehouse.gov and have expressed my outrage. He wants to hear from the people - let him hear.

    I am glad Canola oil is not toxic - been using it for years along with olive oil, but to be on the safe side may just switch to using olive oil.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2009

    Beesie, your figures may be up to date ... the source had dates ranging from 2001 thru 2008 ..  Again, the article agrees that it creates too much dependance ... and another part of the article goes on to show that it has put money in the pockets of the business people and not the labor force.  The business gets to move to Mexico, yes creating jobs there, but the workers don't earn very much.

    North American countries must establish uniform labor and environmental laws that corporations must comply with. If work days, minimum wage and other labor laws are similar across the board, this will give companies more incentive to remain in their respective country. Not only will this raise the standard of living for many underpaid Mexican laborers but it will also increase competition. If the United States, Canada and Mexico want to trade "freely" with each other they must establish an equal playing field so free trade does not come with hidden costs.

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited January 2009

    I just heard on TV that only 13% of the plan is for infrastructure repairs.  At least if they do infrastructure we'll have something to show for some of the money.  They need to get real.  Monday the debate begins in the Senate.  I plan to listen in.

    Hi Beesie, it's good to read you again. We'll have to talk about Canada more often so you'll return.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2009

    I hope the Republican senators ask Madame Frozen Face to fully explain all about the Bacon Explosion!!  Oh, wait, she won't be there!  Maybe they will modify it so this makes sense but I can't see how the bulk of the money can be used to create jobs!! 

    This goes agains basic finance -- you do not spend this much to earn money!!  You tighten your belt!!  I can see helping the infrastructure -- roads/bridges/buildings.  I can see projects for going green.  But PO's "debt package" bill includes "tens of millions of dollars that will do little or nothing to generate or preserve jobs, including money to clear away obstacles for fish, monitor earthquakes and volcanoes, write a report to Congress and reward academic achievement." (abcnews)

    Not all Democrats are bad, just ones like Madame Frozen Face and all the Kennedy clan, the clan of entitlement ...  WHO!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2009
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Sherri, just send me the coupons!!

    Yesterday I had a flat tire on the freeway. So I eased my car over to
    the shoulder of the road, carefully got out of the car and opened the
    trunk.

    I took out 2 cardboard men, unfolded them and stood them at the rear of
    my car facing oncoming traffic. They look so lifelike you wouldn't believe!

    They are in trench coats, exposing their nude bodies and private parts
    to the approaching drivers.

    I started to change my tire, and to my surprise, cars started slowing
    down looking at my lifelike men. And of course, traffic started backing up.
    Everybody was tooting their horns and waving like crazy.

    It wasn't long before a Highway Patrol car pulled up behind me.

    He got out of his car and started walking towards me. I could tell he
    was not a happy camper!

    "What's going on here?"

    "My car has a flat tire," I said calmly.

    "Well, what are those obscene cardboard men doing here by the road?"

    I couldn't believe that he didn't know. So I told him, "Hello-o-o-o-o-o,
    those are my emergency flashers!"

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2009

    Sherri,

    Of course I'm in.  I'll look forward to every punishing moment of the game and my reward afterwards. 

    And I just saw a clip of Obama saying its time to put away bipartisan politics and get this bill passed.  Uh-huh.  63% of the people polled said this bill is lacking, it won't do what it should be doing.  So who was he talking to... the Dems? They should put away politics and give him something to sign?  He's too busy listening to Rush, to pay attention to what we really want.  

    We want less $$ spent and more tax benefits to businesses who actually provide the jobs.   

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Is $200 million to rehabilitate the National Mall a crucial way to stimulate the U.S. economy? How about $276 million to fix the computer systems at the State Department? And what about $650 million to repair dilapidated Forest Service facilities?

    WHO WHO WHO!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Rocky, did you really put those card board men up?  Or are you just telling us a story?  Cus if you did I'm LMAO.  If you didn't, I'm still LMAO!

    Shirley

  • ibcspouse
    ibcspouse Member Posts: 613
    edited February 2009

    That's why I keep getting arrested, I'm just an ordinary flasher, not an emergency one.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Paulette, thank you SO much for posting the link to the video.  Deb was a wonderful woman.  It just breaks my heart that she can't be there with her girls.  I know she worried about that.  But her dh will do a great job taking care of them.

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited February 2009

    And you wondered why Clinton couldn't get far enough away from Carter  -If he moved any farther away he would have been standing behind President Bush. Wink

    -----------------------------------------------------------

    From American Thinker

     The neverending Carter foreign policy follies
    Ed Lasky
    Jimmy Carter continues his foreign policy follies. Now he claims to have brokered an agreement between Hamas and Fatah to form a "unity " government -- but there are conditions. From the Boston Globe:

        WASHINGTON - Jimmy Carter is still trying his hand at peacemaking - this time among Palestinians themselves. In an interview with the Globe yesterday, Carter said he had obtained an agreement in writing from the leaders of the militant movement Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, and the moderate Fatah party, which rules in the West Bank, to form a unity government of technocrats.

        "They both have some preconditions, which is not very good," the former president said. "But [Prime Minister] Salam Fayyad, representing Fatah, could form a government with Hamas in a very short time under the auspices of Saudi Arabia and Egypt."

        Following the meetings, Carter said he sent a letter to both leaders outlining a framework for a new government which they had discussed, and said they both sent him a written response approving the plan. Carter declined to detail the components of the proposal they endorsed but said he forwarded the letters to Omar Suleiman, the Egyptian official in charge of efforts to broker a lasting cease-fire with Israel.

        Whether the Obama administration will shift its policy toward a unity government or toward Hamas remains to be seen. Obama's public statements on Hamas echo those of President George W. Bush. But shortly before Mitchell left for his trip to the Middle East, he asked Carter to urgently send a copy of his new book - which includes a chapter titled "Can Hamas Play a Positive Role?" Carter said.

        "I think George Mitchell will carry out his mandate," Carter said.


    Serial meddling in foreign affairs has been a bad habit of Jimmy Carter's since he left office. Habitat for Humanity is a charity and is non-political; but his ventures in foreign policy infringe on the role of the President. Americans who engage in such foreign policy making should be subject to the Logan Act.

        The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

        The text of the Act is broad and is addressed at any attempt of a US citizen to conduct foreign relations without authority.


    Bill Clinton was perpetually aggrieved by Carter's meddling during his administration and the bitterness lingers to this day. Carter frustrated and derailed Clinton's foreign policy approach towards North Korea and its nuclear weapons program (and this but just one example) and made it more likely that North Korea would continue its nuclear program

        Faced with powerful evidence that the North Korean dictator Kim Il Sung was conducting a nuclear-weapons program that posed a looming threat to America's ally and de-facto protectorate South Korea, the President adopted the strongest of lines. "North Korea cannot be allowed to develop a nuclear bomb," Clinton said last November. "We have to be very firm about it." Kim did not seem much impressed by Clinton's firmness: he refused American demands that he stop production of weapons-grade plutonium and open his nuclear facilities to international inspectors. By June of this year, the matter had reached the crisis point, with Administration officials threatening military action. On June 16, while Clinton and his top national-security aides were in the midst of a discussion on building up United States forces in South Korea, the phone rang, and it was Carter calling from Pyonyang. Carter informed Assistant Secretary of State Robert Gallucci, the point man on Korea, that he intended to appear live on CNN within 30 minutes to announce that he had negotiated a breakthrough agreement with Kim. As Clinton and his top aides watched aghast, Carter did appear on CNN. He described as a "very positive step" a stale, previously offered promise by Kim to freeze plutonium accumulation at North Korea's Yongbyon nuclear complex and mistakenly assured the North Koreans that the U.S. was no longer pursuing economic sanctions against their country. Eventually, however, the North Koreans did agree to major concessions in return for diplomatic talks. But as congressional critics noted, the nuclear technicians at Yongbyon couldn't process the plutonium for 5 or 6 months anyway, because the highly radioactive rods needed to be "cooled." At the end of that time, North Korea could revive its nuclear program, finishing the year with enough plutonium in hand to make four or five bombs.


    Now his meddling with Hamas and Fatah now may bring into existence a phony "unity government" that will usher in a new waterfall of foreign aid to Hamas (which will dominate the "unity" government until it is overthrown and dispensed with by them).

    Most former Presidents realize when their role is over; they move on  to a different stage (sage counselor, charity work); there has never been a President more determined to continue his term in office indefinitely. He has caused a lot of harm (validating the elections of Hugo Chavez, spinning for that tyrant and many other tyrants, such as Yasser Arafat). He is a disgrace. Time to give him the hook and pull him off the stage.


    Page Printed from: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/01/the_neverending_carter_foreign.html

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Remember President Bush said that when he left office he was getting off the stage.  I knew EXACTLY what he was talking about.

    Carter is an embarrassment.  Why he meddles in these affairs is belong me.  He wasn't good at fixing his own foreign policy problems.  Look at how long the prisoners were held captive.

    I noticed when they showed that picture you posted on TV (live shot) that Carter was standing very far away from Clinton.  I don't believe ANY living president (possible dead ones too) would want to stand next to him.  I'm surprised he even showed up for the luncheon.  Idiot!

    Shirley

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    And so it goes, many of these guys will not do what Reagan did and ride out into the sunset!  I think we've seen the last of Bush, he was beaten with a stick and hung out to dry by the media, he's not ready to jump back in any saddle, unless it's on his horse!!

    I really have appreciated the way GHW Bush and Clinton worked together under W ... seems Clinton didn't overstep his bounds.  Carter should go back to raising peanuts. 

  • Paulette531
    Paulette531 Member Posts: 738
    edited February 2009

    And it seems like the older Carter gets, the worse he gets. It will be interesting to see how BO handles him. But I really hope Carter doesn't do something stupid where Hamas is concerned, he seems to be so pro-Palistine.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    I saw this from V. Hanson:

    Perhaps in this dawning of a new America with President Obama we can apply some of this heroic optimism - like that of the disabled mom who raises her four children while working and of the men and women serving in our armed forces. Surely these are the people who display the answer to our current troubles through their very actions, not the executives who beg for more government (i.e., taxpayer) money while they line their own pockets with grotesque salaries and discount the shareholders. Since these executives now essentially work on the public payroll, perhaps they should reduce their salaries to the ratio used at my public university: the president earns about five times the salary of a beginning tenure-track professor. Could the bank presidents, for example, live on five times the salary of a starting teller or even a branch manager? One hopes so.

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited February 2009

    Hey, Beesie, I hope you do not think that we are against Canada and  free trade. As I said, my windows and half my house is from products made in Canada. I believe that we should be strong partners with Canada and Mexico, and I think your country is wise to be looking elsewhere because Obama does seem to want to appeal to the unions and discourage free trade. Actually, I am not sure he has a clue what he is going to do. But the more he turns left, the more people will realize that we are right about him.

    Carter should be put out to pasture for good, or put on trial for treason. It is bad enough that he was such a horrible president. He started the unfair housing intiatives that got us into this mess. His failed mid eastern policies weakened us. He wants to ruin this country even more by running around the world acting as if he is still president. Michael Medved had him on the radio last week. I was surprised that Carter would agree to the interview. Even Obama would not do that, and Medved is at least polite with Obama. Medved calls Carter the worthless one. Medved has jewish relatives in Israel, hence his animosity towards Carter.

    Bush Sr. showed what a gracious man he is by the way he put out his hand to Clinton, even after Clinton ran such a nasty campaign against him. They have both shown the best of what ex presidents should do, be ambassadors for our country. I think GeorgeW will eventually do the same thing. And they will all stay out of Obama's way, as they should. It will be fun to see how he handles Carter.

    Did the MSM even report anything today about the Iraqi's voting today? Say what people will about this war. We now have a real democracy emerging in the middle east, thanks to the blood and treasure of the men and women of our armed forces. We should all be grateful to them on this day. I think the Iraqis mostly appreciate what we have sacrificed and someday the world will credit George Bush for having the kahunas to change the middle east. Once democracy takes root, it will not be overturned, unless the people lose their courage to fight for freedom. Freedom isn't free. Meanwhile we have a president who is telling the military to cut spending by 10% while he allows a runaway congress to try to steamroll us into bankruptcy with pork barrell spending.

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited February 2009

    Paulette, thanks for that link. It is really something what women can do when they work together. What a wonderful tribute to a very special person. I hope that we have offered her family some solace.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Just wanted to put up my fav quote for today.  Then off to beddy by I go.

    "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK. That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," ~ Barack Obama   I'm not worthy  

    "Leadership?"

    And then this one:

    NY Times

    WASHINGTON - The capital flew into a bit of a tizzy when, on his first full day in the White House, President Obama was photographed in the Oval Office without his suit jacket. There was, however, a logical explanation: Mr. Obama, who hates the cold, had cranked up the thermostat.

    "He's from Hawaii, O.K.?" said Mr. Obama's senior adviser, David Axelrod, who occupies the small but strategically located office next door to his boss. "He likes it warm. You could grow orchids in there."   Big Laugh

    Leadership?  Oh, I get it.  Do as I say, not as I do.  Shit Storm   Blah blah blah   

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Just wanted to put up my fav quote for today.  Then off to beddy by I go.

    "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our  homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK. That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," ~ Barack Obama   I'm not worthy  

    "Leadership?"

    And then this one:

    NY Times

    WASHINGTON - The capital flew into a bit of a tizzy when, on his first full day in the White House, President Obama was photographed in the Oval Office without his suit jacket. There was, however, a logical explanation: Mr. Obama, who hates the cold, had cranked up the thermostat.

    "He's from Hawaii, O.K.?" said Mr. Obama's senior adviser, David
    Axelrod, who occupies the small but strategically located office next door to his boss. "He likes it warm. You could grow orchids in there."  Big Laugh

    Leadership?  Oh, I get it.  Do as I say, not as I do.  Shit Storm   Blah blah blah

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Oh girls and ibcspouse... can't stop laughing!

    Kel - OMG...girl...you are tooooooooooooooooooo funny! Perhaps you and I can design, produce and sell those flashers! lol

    Thanks for all the info... I am really ill right now... can't sleep... it's 2:45 am... sore throat - which I am convinced is metastatic cancer. But I'm trying to remain positive... lol... can hardly swallow... but am trying to ignore it and think about politics instead. lol

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited February 2009

    My little girl is very sick & in the hospital in Atlanta. Please pray for her. More later.

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2009

    Moody,

    I'm already praying for her.  Let us know what is happening.  Lots of updates when you can. Ok?

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2009

    I thought we'd all be interested in the hiring practices of the banks we bailed out:

    SANTA CLARA, Calif. - Banks collecting billions of dollars in federal bailout money sought government permission to bring thousands of foreign workers to the U.S. for high-paying jobs, according to an Associated Press review of visa applications.

    The dozen banks receiving the biggest rescue packages, totaling more than $150 billion, requested visas for more than 21,800 foreign workers over the past six years for positions that included senior vice presidents, corporate lawyers, junior investment analysts and human resources specialists. The average annual salary for those jobs was $90,721, nearly twice the median income for all American households.

    The figures are significant because they show that the bailed-out banks, being kept afloat with U.S. taxpayer money, actively sought to hire foreign workers instead of American workers. As the economic collapse worsened last year - with huge numbers of bank employees laid off - the numbers of visas sought by the dozen banks in AP's analysis increased by nearly one-third, from 3,258 in fiscal 2007 to 4,163 in fiscal 2008.

    The AP reviewed visa applications the banks filed with the Labor Department under the H-1B visa program, which allows temporary employment of foreign workers in specialized-skill and advanced-degree positions.

    It is unclear how many foreign workers the banks actually hired; the government does not release those details. The actual number is likely a fraction of the 21,800 foreign workers the banks sought to hire because the government limits the number of visas it grants to 85,000 each year among all U.S. employers.

    During the last three months of 2008, the largest banks that received taxpayer loans announced more than 100,000 layoffs. The number of foreign workers included among those laid off is unknown.

    Foreigners are attractive hires because companies have found ways to pay them less than American workers.

    ___

    Frank Bass reported from East Dover, Vt.

  • suzfive
    suzfive Member Posts: 456
    edited February 2009

    Moody- praying for your daughter.

    Laura - get yourself to a walk-in clinic and make sure you don't have strep throat.

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited February 2009

    Moody, my prayers are with you and your little girl. Hang in there!

    Laura, SUz is right. Get a strep test. A lot of stuff is going around now. Take 500mg of vit c, 4 times a day(and call me in the morning).

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    Thanks... will be going to a clinic this morning... feel like cra*. Hate this.

    Moody - OM - hope, hope, hope all is well with your little one! Keep us posted please.

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