The Respectfully Republican Conversation

shokk wrote:

or they are trying to prove that they will be a better mom then their own Mother............Shokk

Or they want someone to love or someone to love them.  They do not know..they do not think or are mature enough to understand what being a parent is. 

I do not know what the answer is.  I know there was a LOT less sex going on when I was young.  And, yes, there were the caught and uncaught.  I got married at almost 19 years old.  I think most of us just couldn't wait ANY LONGER!  LOL

One answser I do have is PARENTS SHOULD BE PARENTS.  In today's world either parents want to spoil their kids rotten, or they just don't give a darn what happens to their kids.  Then there's the parents who do care, who are poor, and their children end up in gangs.

Bill Cosby was criticized by trying to talk about parents being accountable.  And I don't believe it's only the minorities that need good parents..it crosses all racial lines..parents who read to their kids..who do not let them watch TV hours on end...who do not care what grades their children get in school or even attend school.  Parents need to get involved and I don't mean when Little Johnny is punished by one of his teachers Mommy or Daddy runs to school to fuss out the teacher.  Teachers need support from the parents.  Like I said over and over when I was in school many moons ago.....I HAD NO CIVIL RIGHTS!  The principal called the shot along with the teachers. 

Off my soapbox!

Rocky, about the rich...I think it would be a much nicer country if individuals who make so much money wanted to share it.  However, I do not believe that it's up to the government to take away from the rich and give to us.  I think about my DDs' who went to college and are making something out of themselves.  No, they're not rich. However, if that should ever happen, and I've already seen them do this, they would gladly help someone.  They will NEVER be as rich as Oprah and have multiple houses like she does, nor have to sleep on 1200 thread count sheets.  I know I'm repeating myself, but I was surprised that she was surprised that you can recycle plastic grocery bags at the store.  That's just out of touch the hollywood type are.

Right, Shirl, I agree ......  I think that the gov't should stay out of it ......but pressure should be that people who prance around making films don't deserve $20,000,000 for doing it ..... the fame should be reward in itself.

OMG ......  I have a special amulet ...... and I just found it ... it was in the trash!!!!  I hope I don't lose the good luck I've been having this week!  Oh it was in with all the kleenex rags! yuk!  Maybe I should just stick it in hot bleach!!!!!!

Shirley wrote: PARENTS SHOULD BE PARENTS

Exactly! Too many want to be their kids "friend". BS! I had to help raise my nieces, and everything I read indicated that was not an effective parental style. Mental illness is responsible for some of the problems too. Alot of lower income/minorities are not properly medicated.

AND - I think that school starts at home. After looking at a graded book report, that her daughter had just brought home from school, I heard "someone" say: "This is ridiculous, this teacher didn't even circle all the misspelled words - they never do. I wish the teachers would do their job!" OMG - I thought: " Why didn't you do your job...review the book report and make sure she corrected the misspellings, BEFORE she handed it in?" 

Is there something really strange about this story?

Family: Octuplets' mother has 6 other children

WHITTIER, Calif. - The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week has six other children and never expected to have eight more when she took fertility treatment, her mother said.

Angela Suleman said her daughter expects a big challenge raising 14 children. The good news, she said, is all the babies appear healthy.

"I looked at those babies. They are so tiny and so beautiful," Suleman told The Los Angeles Times on Thursday.

Suleman's daughter gave birth to the octuplets Monday at a hospital in Bellflower but has requested that doctors keep her name confidential. Media knew little about the woman until a family acquaintance told CBS' "The Early Show" on Thursday that the mother is "fairly young" and lives with her parents and her six children.

Within hours, media had camped out at the family's home in Whittier, where the babies' grandfather pulled up in a minivan in the evening and briefly spoke to The Associated Press. Beside him were two children - a 7-year-old and 6-year-old - who said they were excited to have eight new siblings.

But the grandfather warned that media may have a tougher time finding the family after the babies are released from the hospital.

"We have a huge house, not here," said the man, who would only identify himself as Ed. "You are never going to know where it is."

The mother also has two children, ages 5 and 3, and 2-year-old twins, neighbors told the Times.

Suleman said her daughter had embryos implanted last year, and after finding out she was pregnant with multiple babies was given the option by doctors of selectively reducing the number of embryos. The woman declined.

"What do you suggest she should have done? She refused to have them killed," Suleman told the Times. "That is a very painful thing."

Dr. Harold Henry said the woman was already pregnant when she came to Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center, and she was counseled about the risks of her pregnancy and on the option of aborting some of the fetuses. Doctors had been expecting only seven babies, but an eighth was born in the cesarean delivery.

The six boys and two girls, the second octuplets born alive in the United States, have garnered worldwide attention as media have attempted to find out more about the mother and her family. Hours after media gathered outside the Whittier home, Kaiser issued a statement on behalf of the mother requesting privacy.

"Please know, in our own time, we will share additional details about this miraculous experience," the statement read. "The babies continue to grow strong everyday and make good progress. My family and I are ecstatic about all of their arrivals. Needless to say the eighth was a surprise to us all, but a blessing as well."

Dr. Mandhir Gupta said seven of the babies were breathing without assistance. One was still receiving oxygen through a tube in his nose.

Seven of the infants were being tube-fed donated breast milk. One of the boys was expected to begin feedings Friday.

All babies continued to receive an intravenous nutritional combination. They were expected to remain in the hospital for several more weeks.

Some fertility specialists have said the children face increased health risks because they are octuplets and born nine weeks premature. At birth, they ranged between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces.

Doctors say they advise against higher-order births, but acknowledge the decision is not theirs to make.

"Who am I to say that six is the limit?" said Dr. Jeffrey Steinberg, medical director of Fertility Institutes, which has clinics in Los Angeles, Las Vegas and New York City. "There are people who like to have big families."

Dr. James Grifo, professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the NYU School of Medicine, added: "I don't think it's our job to tell them how many babies they're allowed to have. I am not a policeman for reproduction in the United States. My role is to educate patients."

OMG - Yes...very strange! Isn't fertility treatment VERY expensive? A friend went through that process and I think it cost them about $25,000. Yikes - the cost of 6 kids, fertility treatments and now an additional 8. OMG  - AND Dr. T. Johnson was on GMA this morning...he said that planting 8 is considered malpractice and unethical. Although there is no law re: this. He also said that most Drs won't do more than 4 and the majority do 2. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Please...don't tell me they're on welfare! Where's the father? I haven't heard anything about him. Have any of you?

Oh and Laura - that avatar is great!  Went to that site - hysterical!

Heard that CBS is reporting they declared bankruptcy at some earlier point and are on welfare.  So as stated earlier, begs the point....how can fertility treatments be afforded?  Hmmmm

(edited to add:  But maybe that is something that is paid for in California?  Don't know)

How in this world can a Dr. implant embryos into a woman who already has 6 kids, no husband, nor any employment?  Who did pay for this?  Someone's head should be rolling.  

"But her mother, Angela Suleman, also tells the newspaper her daughter conceived the octuplets through a fertility program".

Now I'm out of words. 

ME TOO!  I very much enjoy hearing his ideas and would love to have seen him run for Pres!.  My only thought was - would being RNC chairman hinder his chances at running for office again??? I mean, do the chairman just fade away?  I would much rather see him in office.  On the other hand, could he affect more change being chairman?  Anybody know?

Can anyone explain this?

• $20 million "for the removal of small- to medium-sized fish passage barriers." (Pg. 45 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: "20,000,000 for the removal of small- to medium-sized fish passage barriers)

• $400 million for STD prevention (Pg. 60 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: "CDC estimates that a proximately 19 million new STD infections occur annually in the United States ...The Committee has included $400,000,000 for testing and prevention of these conditions.")

• $25 million to rehabilitate off-roading (ATV) trails (Pg. 45 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: "$25,000,000 is for recreation maintenance, especially for rehabilitation of off-road vehicle routes, and $20,000,000 is for trail maintenance and restoration")

• $34 million to remodel the Department of Commerce HQ (Pg. 15 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: $34,000,000 for the Department of Commerce renovation and modernization")

• $70 million to "Support Supercomputing Activities" for climate research (Pgs. 14-15 of Senate Appropriations Committee Report: $70,000,000 is directed to specifically support supercomputing activities, especially as they relate to climate research)

• $150 million for honey bee insurance (Pg. 102 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: "The Secretary shall use up to $ 50,000,000 per year, and $150,000,000 in the case of 2009, from the Trust Fund to provide emergency relief to eligible producers of livestock, honey bees, and farm-raised fish to aid in the reduction of losses due to disease, adverse weather, or other conditions, such as blizzards and wildfires, as determined by the Secretary")

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO............8 kids added to the welfare rolls in CA........along with their brothers and sisters that are already there................it just makes me so proud............

Daisy I really like Michael Steele.........he has got that "it" factor.............we really need someone in the RNC chair more high profile.............we need to get "our" message out.........

If you guys have not seen the movie "Charlie Wilson's War" with Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts rent it this weekend........puts an interesting spin on the Russian/Afghanistan war.........not sure that sending more troops to Afghanistan is going to solve anything especially since more then likely is not were Bin Laden is hiding...........Shokk

I heard something last night about illegal aliens getting money too.  I forget for what. 

This stimulus plan is the last 4 years of dead legislation that either didn't get the nod in a committee or wasn't gotten got around to.  They're trying to stick it in the plan without hearings which would disclose if the money is even needed anymore.

The republicans seemingly are staying strong about voting no, and there isn't any give and take going on yet between the dems and the repubs.  So much for reaching across the aisle that Pelosi swore they'd do.  One dem Senator was on earlier saying theres a lot of money being spent that won't be felt by the economy till 4-5 years out.  That's not the goal.