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  • Gracie713
    Gracie713 Member Posts: 302
    edited January 2009

    Noelle-got my package today.  Thank you so much!  Hope that your day has gone well.

    No snow here, but we had a lot of ice this morning.  Has been raining all day (I'd rather have snow than rain/ice.  Trees are still iced over.  Electric went off this morning a few minutes before I left for rad tx.  Finally back on this morning.  Looking forward to spring!!

  • kerry_lamb
    kerry_lamb Member Posts: 778
    edited January 2009
    ROCK!! WELL!! You want to send me a hoopa-hoopa-hoopahoopahoopa to go with the choking-squabble-squark-gobble chatterchatterchatter of my WB (whose days are surely numbered..). Thanks, sister. And in a box! It would get a slightly different response to the 'oh-h-h-h-h-h-h-' and 'a-h-h-h-h-h-h-' of Noelle's package, that's for sureLaughingI'm trying not to think about the mamm stuff too much but I'm finding that a bit difficult. I was sailing along in cloud-cuckoo land and then, quote, "FUCK! We have CANCER???" I have to remember sometimes that this is not, say, a recipe-sharing forum! I don't see the breast surgeon until Feb 16th, so if I get a call to call to come in earlier, the game will be up..sigh.. Rock, I'm glad you are loving it over there. It's REAL! That's the main thing. I have a few very lovely SA friends here and they are very like Australians, except their elocution is...well...not lazy like ours. The music teacher at my steps' school speaks  the most perfect, educated Queen's English in a kind of sing-songy SA way. I could listen to her all day long. Life is way cool, is it not. XXXX
  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited January 2009

    Kerry~ I missed your 16 things note :O(,

    edit: I found it! wooohooo!

  • Jeano77
    Jeano77 Member Posts: 237
    edited January 2009

    Evening Ladies! 

    Noelle - Did you get cleared for any / all weight lifting?  I am still restricted to 5lbs with the left arm due to risk of lymphedema.  Curious to hear more about that.  I was tempted with the tri in Texas, but I think I am going to do the 3 day in Minneapolis late August. 

    Karin - I took the pledge!  Now I need to get over to facebook and get my 16 random things done!  BTW, my nephew told me that if you accept the gifts or hugs, etc., that it opens your facebook for all non-authorized to view.  For all the pros out there, is that true? 

    Gracie - So very sorry to hear about your cuz.  I hope that radiation is going well and I am guessing that I you are almost finished - yeah!

    RanD - thinking and praying for you everyday!  Hope you feeling better soon!

    Jean

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited January 2009

    Noelle~ did you get your results back yet?

  • Jeano77
    Jeano77 Member Posts: 237
    edited January 2009

    I have some good news to share and a bit of a confession.

    First, after 5 months of chemo (and 3 echos), I was told last Wednesday that my ejection fraction is back to normal and the pericardial effusion (water on the heart) is also gone.  Yeah!

    Last (and this is good news), I will start a high dose of prednisone tomorrow for radiation pneumonitis (scarring of the lungs) which occurred from rads.  Since my ER room visit early December, I have been struggling with excessive fatigue and severe shortness of breath (bone aches, high and low temps), etc.  A high does of antibiotics did not help, so the onc ordered a CT scan that revealed a large white image in my left lung.  I have spent the past two weeks with a pulmonary specialist and have had 2 lung biopsies, another (extended) CT scan, test for TB among many other diseases.  Some things did not add up initially, but it boiled down to radiation pneumonitis. 

    The testing started same day as the CT results and were so fast and furious, I thought I would have an answer before I was even able to get back to the pc . . . then one test led to another. 

    Sorry that I was not forthcoming with the information, but like all of us waiting for test results, I was nervous. 

    Love, hugs and prayers to all!

    Jean

  • drcrisc
    drcrisc Member Posts: 836
    edited January 2009

    Hey y'all!!  (Just had to throw one in!)

    This has been a rough day - still thinking about Deb, then my mom told me last night one of her younger sisters was just diagnosed with bc, stage 2 (I will be directing her to bc.org), this morning we found my youngest dd's bird dead for no apparent reason and at least 2 people at work have lost a parent in the last week. 

    Gracie - Sorry about your cousin.

    Karin - Took the pledge yesterday!  Love it!!

    Roxi - I get to bypass the mammos altogether for awhile and just have MRIs.  My surgeon told me that even though we knew exactly where my lump was and everyone could feel it, the mammo did not pick it up.  This is NOT reassuring.  So MRIs for me!

    Julie - I, too, am still sore from rads, especially the SNB scar.  In fact, I have an appointment with my PCP Thursday AM because I am really sick of my arm acting weird and want to have it checked out.  My whole right arm has been throbbing at the end of the night the past few days.

    Rock - Glad to hear you love it and thanks for the reminders about DebC!

    Gotta get kiddos to bed!!

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited January 2009

    Hey, just got home.

    My ejection fraction has gone down to 49, but they did Herceptin anyway. The cardiologist at the JCC stops Herceptin if you drop to 44.  So, we keep ploughing and test the heart every month now. 

    Jean, The surgeon has given me the all clear for weight lifting and any workouts I want to do. He said that at 1 year from surgery if I have had no lymphodema ( which I haven't) symptoms the chances are low that I will get them now. He said I shouldn't maybe consider a career as a body builder but other than that he has no concerns. He also wondered why I had been concerned about flying when I mentioned it. The studies I have read agree with him. The people at LiveStong suggested I check out lymphnet.org. 

     I am calling my trainer tomorrow to book some weight sessions. 

    As for the FB stuff. You only allow new people to see your partial profile if you reply to an email from them. Your Facebook settings are as strict as you set them, and Facebook shows a popup to warn you if anything could change if you click. You should only be getting hugs and gifts from people you have already voluntarily added to your friends list.

    Tonight I got to meet some BBC/Canadian TV celebrities at a trade show. Have any of you seenthe British(Scottish) to be specific Home Makeover show designers Colin and Justin?  They have had many shows on BBC over the years and have moved to Canada and have a show here now. I "friended" them on FB last year and started emailing them on a whim and occasionally get an email from them. One of their mom's has cancer( not sure which type) and I occasionally send a note about that. Today I told them I was going to be at a presention of theirs and they told me to be sure to say hello. I waited for the throng of women to stop fauning all over them and told Justin who I was and he about lost his mind! He called his assistant over to bring a book over for me. They had written a lovely note in their new book as a gift to thank me for being concerned with Justin's mom. He was so genuine and lovely I was taken aback. They were very very busy with hundreds of women but stopped everything to talk to me! I loved it!

    Love to all.. I have been thinking about Deb all day... 

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited January 2009

    Noelle - I just needed to say...that warmed my heart.  It really did.  wow...I think I needed that.

  • ewesterman
    ewesterman Member Posts: 417
    edited January 2009

    Women,

    Wow. We are just buzzing with emotion. I don't know Deb and wasn't one who traveled to other threads, but I am so sad that she died. Like many of you, I hope she is at peace and in a place that is comfortable. We have cancer. It is not going away. We are living with cancer. We have to face that. We were so fucking busy just surviving chemo and rads that we didn't have the time or the inclination to process that. Some of us have had to deal with this long before we/they were diagnosed as it was a family affliction. That doesn't make it any easier, I don't think, to process. Some of us will die before our time. It will suck. It will be unfair. It will be awful and we will learn to handle it with sorrow, grief, anger, grace, sadness, overwhelm and whatever the hell else we have to do. We will all end up with more wisdom. We already have way, way, way, way more wisdom than most women because we have seen the other side and we are choosing NOT to go there at this time. Sometimes it is not a choice and we are going to have to face that and it is going to suck because, like Deb, we will leave behind loved ones. But let it be known, Ms. RanD, that your stage four does not make you a candidate for that path any time sooner than the rest of us. People live with chronic cancer for a zillion years and one of us might walk out the door and be hit by a falling brick tomorrow morning (although that will mean walking somewhere in an urban area...maybe we ought to stay away from there.). The bummer, bummer, bummer, RanD, is that you ought NOT to be going through such fucking pain. As far as the rest of you go, it is impossible to begin to try to catch up with you because you are abuzz with all kinds of news. I love my foob but still think about recon, but since I am behind you all a bit (except for my herceptin sister, Jen) I just think about it a bit. Jean, I respect that you were keeping things quiet, but know that we are here for you through anything. Keep healing dear one and keep getting through. It humbles me when people from other threads visit us. I feel so honored to be a part of this group. You are rock solid. Now, I am heading over to Facebook to friend request a few of you who I have yet to friend request. I love that we are here and took Karin's pledge and I love that we are there as we are weaving one another into the fabric of our "regular" lives. Good night. I love you all.

  • ranD
    ranD Member Posts: 373
    edited January 2009

    Hey,

    First, yes, I take the pledge. Since so many of my family are on, I really don;t want to share some of "our" stuff. 

    Yesterday took a shower and could not breathe when I got out.  Dh was trying to help as I am telling him, please get me to the hospital I can't breathe.  His response"Look at my eyes, now focus on breathing, in and out...."  All I hear is blah blah blah....I am not having a fucking panic attack, my lung is going under....I know, he was trying to help. its gotta be scary to be in his shoes.

    We get to the hospital (literally 4 miles down the road) I go into ER, he goes to park the car and I wheezingly tell them, can;t breathe, SOB, she continues to ask me for my address, phone and meanwhile i am gasping like a fish on the dock.  FInally the triage nurse grabs me, finds out my o2 isat 88%, and gets me to a bed.  She tells me that someone will be in to "hook " me up.  Nope, we wait 90 minutes before I grab a face and gasp for o2...they got the mesage...lol..

    Long story short, the radiologist was an older doc, he did it so carefully that the pain was non=existent, drained 750 and told me to come back in a few days and he would finish the job.  Looks like the right one is not refilling and he estimated about another 500 is left in there.

    Tomorrow I see the pulmonary ocs at 4, so I am really excirted and then my onc on Thursday for the game plan.

    Yesterday after the draining, I did the complete melt down crying in the car. Even though I was feeling better, all I could think about was,is this  what the next however many years will be like? Them I got a grip, prayed away the despair and actually walked in the house feeling like a burden has been lifted. I know that all the prayers you are sending my way (and cards, thanks eddie,its right in front of me) helps me fight stronger and longer.

    So, will check in tomorrow after the appt....

    love you all, randie

  • kerry_lamb
    kerry_lamb Member Posts: 778
    edited January 2009
    Ran, I can't imagine what you are going through. I got freaked out yesterday (completely involuntarily and unexpectedly) by the mamm and US, and then again today by a chat with a plastic surgeon. I wish you were here in Launceston..you get Queen Mary treatment (the royal girl, not the ocean liner) and feck! you have cancer! You don't even pay! This has been a welcome spin-off for me lol! I want your pain gone. I want your lungs fixed. I want you to go to bed and sleep the sleep that a log or a rock sleeps. Or my cat, Christine. I want you and your man to wake up slowly and smile at each other. Not much to ask for, I don't think.  My chat with the PS put the wind up me today. We talked at lot about how dense my breast tissue is, difficulty of screening into the future blah blah blah and now I am considering a prophylactic mastectomy. Bugger me, why do I have to think about these things??? I think I am a bit crabby because I am not drinking any alcohol at all AND it is 36C outside today. People kill each other in this heat....At least that bird has shut upLaughingLove y'all, especially you Ran, and Kristy with the sick cousin, feck it all grrrr.
  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited January 2009

    RanD, I am a BIG BELIEVER in the power of a good "grab the tea-towel because Kleenex is not going to cut it" sob every now and then.  And if you ever are blocked and can't get the good cry out, let me know. I have some music recommendations!

     In a meeting. Can't write. But sending love love love to all ofyou.  (Kerry -- wanna know more about how you feel about the proph mas suggestions.  My own reaction is:  Sorry that you guys are just gonna have to look harder at my mamms and US and MRI, but I'm hanging on to my breasts, thank you very much.  And I'm BRCA2+ which poses greater likelihood of recurrence or a new primary.   I won't say "never" to masectomies, but right now, I'm really happy to have my rather ordinary breasts. 

  • Gracie713
    Gracie713 Member Posts: 302
    edited January 2009

    Morning Ladies!

    RanD-the older docs I have worked with in the past were always much more gentle with procedures than the younger, newly trained ones.  Experience means a lot.  I worked with an ER doc who was 80 years old and he could work rings around the others-the man could put in a chest tube with his eyes closed and the patient never felt a thing.  I enjoyed working with him and learned so much--I miss him.  Hope that you are feeling better today, you are in my thoughts.

    I  had a mammogram on my right breast Dec. 24, just before starting rads.  Don't know when they will want a mammo on the left (it has several cysts), but will talk to the med onc about it when I go see her Mar. 2.  The rad onc isn't as easy to talk to.  

    Everyone have a great day!

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited January 2009

    Jean~ I understand about keeping the info to yourself. Sometimes it's easier if you don't say it out loud. I pray this takes care of it for you!

    RanD~If I could only take it away from you so you could feel better. I'm praying thatsince one side isn't filling up again that you are on the mend baby!

    Kerry~ I have freaked out on more people this past year than in a lifetime. I even have a nurse say that for awhile everytime she saw me her armpits got sweaty LOL.

    About Deb.... Like Eddie, I rarely wandered far from our group and did not get the chance to know her. But it still hits like a rock something has happened to "one of us".

    I'm not an athletic person not by any means... mostly cause I am terribly clumsy. But If I can get some weight down (which I am trying), I think I'm going to try to do one of the bc walks this year. I haven't fully decided yet, its still in thinking mode.

    OH I found a curl yesterday in my hair! I thought for sure I was going to have straight hair now lol. I'm thinking of each of you as I watch a foot of snow fall outside. I'm sending love and hotchocolate .... well except to those of you in warm areas.. you get lemonade :O)

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited January 2009

    Wow, Jean. And whew.  I'm so sorry about the fatigue, the scarring, the anxiety.  I do hope the prednisone gives you the energy you need without a host of side effects.  Fatigue SUCKS.

    Noelle -- congrats on your brush with celeb!

    I spent the day in a meeting with the heads of Cape Town/Western Cape orgs that deal with child and adult sexual assault survivors.  Nitty gritty, wrenching stuff.  Rates of sexual violence are sky high here, as are HIV infection rates.  NOT a good combination.  The dozen or so women in this meeting are among those who helped write the sexual offences act. They are the ones who will try to hold the govt accountable to the law.  I'm working on a proposal to ensure that women victims of assault are provided with post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) for HIV infection, in keeping with the sexual offences act. It is all very humbling and inspiring and fascinating.  Not to mention, exhausting.

    (Jen, you're welcome to the curl in MY hair.  For that matter, I'd take a couple pounds, too.  I'm starting to look like a giraffe.)

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited January 2009

    Eddie,

    Im still with you and Jen on the slow Herceptin train- I go in for treatment tomorrow actually so Im drinking a TON today to be over hydrated for those IV nurses.

    Im considering a proph mast on the other side also if I decide to de recon.

    RanD - I am so sorry you are in such pain but I thank God for the older doctor who treated you at the ER- keep advocating for yourself or find a friend or family member to advocate for you- that level of pain is not necessary. I have several nurses I REFUSE to let try an IV because they miss on me too much- had several multi-poke sessions before I started standing my ground on not letting them try.

    Going to Missouri this weekend- riding along mainly as daughter goes to a softball camp and campus visit. I got released to drive yesterday so i will help drive but she knows shes going to have to do a lot and let me tag along more or less!

    Kristy

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited January 2009

    mmm Missouri. I have only been there once and very briefly for a wedding. I was big Mark Twain reading kid and always loved the idea of the 1800's on a river boat. Funny that my black/mixed race heritage would have prevented me from actually being a passenger during those times... never occured to me until just now. Scrubbing the decks was not my idea of riding the river!!

    I am in the store alone, another mini snow storm has paralyzed the town. I deeply hate how people here let weather dictate their buying patterns. January is stupifyingly slow and the snow is not helping matters. I adore the snow! I can live in almost any country in the world ( EU, US and here) and god help me Vancouver if I like but I chose here because I like the weather changes.*sigh*

     RanD, you are on my mind all the time. My mom always loved the older dr's, we had quite a club of them on her cancer team. 

    email me if u want the links to getting fave my curly hair prods in the states. Lauren I am going to email u now about this. Don't forget, my site is in Can$ so for most of you the prices are cheaper because of the exchange rate.  We are hoping to have a US shipping facility by summer but it is hard with handmade products as they don't sit in warehouses well. 

    Gotta run, it is a slow day, so I should put a dent in my to-do list. 

     xoN

  • MsKarin
    MsKarin Member Posts: 647
    edited January 2009

    I love the older doctors, they make me feel my age (or just ageless). When I get a young one that to me, still looks like he should be in school, I get the slap in the face that I'm getting old.

  • MsKarin
    MsKarin Member Posts: 647
    edited January 2009

    For all those that need one today

  • Gracie713
    Gracie713 Member Posts: 302
    edited January 2009

    I got another wonderful package in the mail today-from my niece & sister in Colorado.  My niece made me a beautiful quilt, with breast cancer awareness material.  I am wrapped up in it now.  DH is going to take pictures of it later and I will post on FB.  She did such a wonderful job on it (she is 22).  It has really brightened my day!

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited January 2009

    Jean - you should never feel the need to apologize to us!  Holy moly sweetie...you've got enough going on.  First YAY! on the heart.  That is awesome!  I think it is safe to say that all of us understand how worried/scared/nervous you must've been.  Who'da thunk we'd say YAY! at radiation pneumonitis?!  Will the pred heal this condition?  How long before Jean is feeling better?

    You know we are all always here for you.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited January 2009

    A lot to respond to, so I'm sure I'm going to miss a lot, but first:

    Ohboyohboyohboyohboy!  I finally got my package yesterday.  (It actually came on Monday, but since I was at work, I got a delivery notice instead and had to go to the post office to pick it up.)  Wouldn't you know, yesterday was also my group run night, so I was able to use the muscle mist afterwards.  It may or may not cure my ailing achilles, but it definitely felt good and smelled amazing.  THANK YOU so much, Noelle! 

     (I don't usually have complaints about mail delivery, but I swear, there's something about packages from Canada that brings out the worst in my post office.  The box with my Christmas order last month looked as though someone had given it to their pet wolverine as a chew toy.  Fortunately, the contents were fine.)

    Jean, I don't think there's ever a need to apologize for stuff not posted.  I think we've all gone through periods - longer periods for some of us, shorter ones for others - where we just didn't want to talk about something that was going on.  There's no mandatory disclosure here.  Hope the prednisone has you buzzing with energy soon (just try not to bounce off the walls . . . )

    Randie, what an ordeal.  So glad you got the good doc.  And that you'll soon know the plan of attack.

    Linda 

  • Roxi65229
    Roxi65229 Member Posts: 462
    edited January 2009

    Randie, I had my choice with the Onc I have. Should I take the newby fresh out of college or the older, more experienced. I didn't have to think very long about it, I chose the experience and I sure am glad I did.  Sure hope your feeling better.

    Jean, don't be silly. I'm just so happy that you can control it with meds. Will the steriod clear it up and help your breathing?

    Noelle, so sorry for the slow down but maybe we'll see more of you here? Love to hear your stories.

    Crazy ass busy at work. Tomorrow is my support group. I designed their flyer for an oncology group that's having an open house next week and working on the website. I'll let you guys know when we go live. Hi to all my buds.

    Mary 

  • LeggyJ
    LeggyJ Member Posts: 726
    edited January 2009

    Thank you, eddie!  You said it better than, I can!  My radiologist, was as straight forward, and honest as you,( after I let him know, I could handle it). No one knows, what tomorrow, will bring. All we can do is enjoy, today, as cliche as that sounds.

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited January 2009
    Happy Birthday Roxi!!!!!!!!!Kiss
  • ewesterman
    ewesterman Member Posts: 417
    edited January 2009

    My cancer bully pal, Dottie, is mourning the loss of Alaska Deb as many of you are. I hate that we are all going to have to just learn to say we are, "living with cancer," and not dying of cancer. We will live with it as long and as strong as we can. We will remain hopeful and healthy and take care of ourselves. We will allow ourselves to grieve our situation and feel sorry for ourselves from time to time then we will remember why we chose to go through pain to stick around. You know why as well as I do...not just for our loved ones, but for a quiet day in a town that is paralyzed by snow; for stupid birds that are too loud; for sunshine on a cloudy day; for the end of fog/smog so a kid can feel better and so on. Women, we ought to do our reunion at a cancer walk....we have nice ones here in Seattle....hmmm. Okay, maybe we just cruise to Alaska together .... or somewhere warmer? We'll see, but right now we're concentrating on lungs.....love you all.

  • Jeano77
    Jeano77 Member Posts: 237
    edited January 2009

    Eddie - Well said (on both accounts)!  I have not jumped to many other threads either  . . . .  but the news of AlaskaDeb hit with a very heavy punch - how incredibly sad - cried as I read through the thread. 

    RanD - Your spirit is amazing and it will carry you through this!  I seriously cannot imagine what you are going through.  I was gasping for air during the biopsy - fish on the dock painted a crystal clear picture.  Hello, would it be to much feckin effort to roll the oxygen over here???  I pray that you have peaceful days ahead.  Thank goodness for the older doc and your persistence! 

    Thanks to all for understanding . . . good news is that prednisone will correct the majority of the scarring.  The doc indicated that only the top 3% of conditioned athletes would feel the small residual - not me!  It will take 2-3 weeks before I am feeling better and I am looking forward to that!!

    Last, I used product in my hair for the first time today since shaving the head!  All of my product had dried up, so I am looking for some new stuff . . . . Noelle??? :)  I will send you an e-mail.  I want to make the most of the few curls that I have!  Never had curly hair and it is fun.

    Rock & Kerry - I really appreciate the stories from your beautiful (and warm) environments!

    Love to all and goodnight!!  Jean

  • Jeano77
    Jeano77 Member Posts: 237
    edited January 2009

    Happy birthday Roxi!!  ??  !!!!!

  • drcrisc
    drcrisc Member Posts: 836
    edited January 2009

    Eddie - Wow.  You just have such a way of saying what's on everyone's mind.  I have missed you and your words. 

    Randie - What an ordeal!!  Yes, let's hear it for experience!  I'm really hoping for a plan that makes sense and gives you some stability with all this uncertainty.  Mostly, I hope you NEVER have to go through that BS again!!

    Jean - I'm not sure what I missed (haven't been to FB yet, maybe it's there), but I hope you're feeling better, too.  I have asthma, so I also get the "fish on the dock" analogy.

    Roxi - I guess I need to say Happy Birthday!  Laughing

    Kerry - It took me several minutes and more than one read to realize you sleeping cat comment was not about me.  Duh!

    I am in the midst of deciding whether or not to make a job change.  There's way too many details to explain, but political agendas and bureaucratic policies should sum it up.  Part of my decision is also factoring in my health.  My stress level at my present job is waaaaayy too high, and given what felt like the sudden onset of my lump last year, I just can't allow myself to continue to do "business as usual".  By the way, it's not the inmates.  Sigh...I will miss my students.

    So...on a completely different note, here's what my 5 y.o. said to me last night regarding the death of her bird, Pickle, who is now buried in our backyard.  "I think on Friday I'll go out and see Pickle."  I say, "Okay, sure, you can visit the spot where he is."  She says, "No, I want to see him."  I say, "Ooohhhh (as it dawns on me that she is serious), no, honey, we're not going to dig up the bird.  But you can stand next to his little cross and talk to him."  She says, "Okay."  Oh, to be 5 again (not really!), I just like the innocence of it.

    Off to FB!

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