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  • ranD
    ranD Member Posts: 373
    edited January 2009

    Still waiting for doc to calll.. WTF????  I amstarting to think she doesn't like telling bad b=news.  Deal with it baby, you are in oncology for the love of Pete!!!!!!

     Beautiful sunny day here.  FInally we had rain, maybe our pond will fill up.

    Okay, gripe of the day.  I will be sending out a global email to family who feel the need to call me at 7 am to see how I am doing....I was sleeping!!!!!!!!!!!  The only reason I answered was that the phone was at my head and it scared the shite out of me as I jumped out of the 1 1/2 hour nap I was taking!!!  The only thing I coul guess was that although it was 7 am for me, for my uncle it was 10, so he thought I should be up.  Gotta love that!

    Hey, am working on my facebook page, so I am gonna run!! randie

  • MsKarin
    MsKarin Member Posts: 647
    edited January 2009

    Wow! I can't believe all the posts since I posted last night (only 19) hours ago. There are almost as many to read as when I miss a few days.

    ranD - Glad you are having a beautiful sunny day; sorry your onco hasn't called yet. Did you get the lung drained today? About your wake up phone call I know how that goes. Some people just don't think about time zones. At least your Uncle was concerned, hopefully next time he'll be more considerate.

    Jen and I were just discussing adding phone numbers and email addresses to our group snail mail list and making a new master list. For phone numbers make SURE to add the Time Zone. If interested in being on the new master list PM me and I will get it together. Rock, do you have a new address over there yet?

    Almost forgot to mention I finally signed up on facebook.

  • kerry_lamb
    kerry_lamb Member Posts: 778
    edited January 2009
    Morning girls! The Wattle Bird...hmmm...how to describe. Probably best to google images. Might be under Australian Wattle Bird. The sound is the problem, especially at 4am, hence the need for decapitation! Any other time of day is actually amusing and strangely comforting. It makes a 'S-Q-U-A--A-A-A-A-R-K!' and then a kind of repeated hiccup-squark. We have a big male at school who has been there for years and his favorite thing to do (for his own amusement) is to hide in the big grevillia bush beside the main entrance and 'S-Q-A-A-A-A-A-R-K!!' at the poor unsuspecting person coming out. Laughing
  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited January 2009

    I found a site that has a pic and at the bottom right you can listen to it

    http://www.birdsinbackyards.net/finder/display.cfm?id=8

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited January 2009

    holy crap we talk a lot! I am off to a play for the night.. I will read more later! love to all!

     xoN

  • JulieC
    JulieC Member Posts: 324
    edited January 2009

    Thanks, Kerry - I looked it up and I can just imagine how annoying it must be to wake up to it or FROM it.  You did a great job describing the sound.  Maybe we need to go "Squaaaark" at RanD's onc to get their attention.

  • drcrisc
    drcrisc Member Posts: 836
    edited January 2009
    How about this for another good omen?  I got a Christmas card from Jen today (thanks, hon, so sweet!) but I had to look twice at the name and address because she lives in the same town as several of my aunts and uncles!  I thought she was a cousin I had never met!!  I think it's a good sign, right?  Because we are family here.
  • Jeano77
    Jeano77 Member Posts: 237
    edited January 2009

    RanD - sorry that you have not heard from your onc . . . sending warm, wonderful thoughts your way (despite the frigid MN temps).  Love to you my dear!

    I forgot to tell you all that I picked out my new boobs on Wednesday!  I will finally be able to wear a size "A" bra without it being baggy.  Surgery is currently scheduled for March 30th. 

    Love to all!

    Jean

  • sueper13
    sueper13 Member Posts: 1,224
    edited January 2009

    ranD,

    We are all so right here with you.  Planning graduations, reunions and weddings.  Otter, I'll bring pear honey AND amaretto for  the tea.....and we'll tell stories about our lives, and hold ranD's hands, and just hold on to each other.  RanD, you are in my prayers, every day, I wish it were different.  And yes, I think the fecking fifteen should have caught their attention!

    Much love to all of you.  Rock, nice to see you--and the way you write, I CAN see you....Eddie--miss you!  Ramble again!

    Love,

    Sue

  • kerry_lamb
    kerry_lamb Member Posts: 778
    edited January 2009

    Jean? Are you having recon? Please tell! i have just about totally capitulated and am thinking no recon and just a reduction on my 'good' side. XX

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited January 2009

    Jean, I was also surprised to read that you've got a surgery date scheduled . . . I remember a discussion about reconstruction weeks (and pages and pages and pages ago), but not that you'd made the decision to go for it.  What type of recon are you doing?

    The farther out I get from my original surgery, the more the void on my left side bothers me.  It doesn't bother me HORRIBLY, and with most clothes, no one would know (I never had cleavage worth speaking of, and if I happen to wear something low-cut that affords a glimpse of the gap between my flat chest and my foob, and someone is shocked/repulsed by it, well, they shouldn't have been looking down my damn shirt in the first place!).  But, yeah, it bothers me.  I still get a jolt when the mast bra comes off, or I step out of the shower, and look down to see . . . nothing.  So you'd think I'd be looking into reconstruction.  But so far, I haven't been able to bring myself to do that.  I'm guess I'm waiting for some brilliant surgical mind to come up with a magic wand technique: no cutting (or just a little - hey, I'm realistic), no sacrificing muscle, quick recovery, 100% success rate, looks totally natural, lasts forever.  

    In the meantime, I'm slowly starting to give more thought to the options that actually exist, and the experiences of women who are more realistic/less chickenshit than me. 

    Randie, I'm thinking of you.  There's a blog that I check from time to time that you might be interested in: it's called "The Assertive Cancer Patient" (www.assertivepatient.com) and it's by a woman who's been living, and living WELL, with metastatic bc for a long time.  Her slogan is, "Living with cancer . . . and an attitude" (hey, that could be OUR slogan, too).  In addition to just being interesting, she has a ton of experience fighting with insurance companies and hospitals and government programs, and freely shares her advice and tips with others.  (Eddie, she lives up your way, in Seattle.)

    Linda

    P.S. It's COOOOLD again here.  Any bluebirds would freeze their tailfeathers (and a bit more) off.

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited January 2009

    Linda,

    Im like you- starting to consider recon and not liking the living with the foob or being lopsided. Sue is also going into recon so I am living vicariously through her at the momenr since I am also interested in her surgeon and surgery type. I cant really have recon until the end of this year at the earliest because of the rads so I have a lot of time to research and talk to other people about their experiences.

     RanD- what kids do you have at home- I think Sam is 8, is that right? I also have an 8 year old boy!

    Kristy

  • LorenaB
    LorenaB Member Posts: 937
    edited January 2009

    May ladies, here I am, sort of on the fringes of your group peeking in, feeling a bit like a snoop, so I need to get out of lurkdom and say something.  You are all the most incredible women!  I have never ever seen such an outpouring of support and rightous anger and LOVE as I have on these pages.  I am blessed with my own online support network -- my working moms group has been together for nearly 7 years -- but even with those dear friends (the ones who made me a quilt!) I have never seen the level of love and sharing of pain that you guys have here.  Obviously, it is different when you are closer to it -- my friends can cry and send me cards and candles, but they haven't sat in that chemo chair themselves so they don't understand how close all of us are to a scary diagnosis.

    Which brings me to RanD -- I don't really "know" you but I also want to send lots of strength and positive vibes and support. I am also the mom of a nearly-eight-year-old boy and the idea of a recurrence is just terrifying.  I do want to share that I have a local friend who I've met through this board, who has been Stage IV for two years now and is doing great, healthy and energetic and positive. I hope that all the good energy and prayers from this group will push you into that category SOON.

    I also wanted to commisserate with the other "uniboobs" out there. Linda, I love what you said about looking down your shirt!  I think I've had a relatively easy time dealing with it because I've been planning for recon from the time I learned I would need a mastectomy. (I also had a reduction on the other side at the same time and I love my smaller breast, so that has helped with my attitude.)  My DIEP is scheduled for just two short months from now -- March 25 to be exact.  I would be happy to share my experience with anyone who is considering that procedure, if it will help you in making your decision. I am getting nervous of course, but feeling positive that as a relatively young (42) and healthy person, all will go smoothly.  Now if I can force myself to do more abdominal exercises I'd be in business....

    Thank you for the opportunity to peer into your incredible circle from the sidelines, you are all so funny and warm and strong, it is really inspiring!

    Lauren

  • ranD
    ranD Member Posts: 373
    edited January 2009

    Okay, sorry this is so late...we di not get back until after 8:30 because I made dh stop at Sam's to pick up groceries.  MMMMMMM, they had California strawberries and I had to buy 2 big boxes, yum, Sam polished off almost 1/2 box himself.

    Kristy, kids at home are  Zach 17, Grace 13, Abby 11, Sam 6

    Got my lung drained, another 800 mL of junk came out.  But, it was the worst experience yet.  I had it done in the ultrasound room, since apparently its a lot less dangerous then th bedside taps the residents performed in the hospital.  YEAH RIGHT>  Holy Mother of God it hecka hurt. I yelled so loud and hard (using very many colorful terms) that he asked the nurse to get the supervisor, who also couldn;t do it without inflicting mucho pain.

    LOng story short, am breathing better, but will probably have to go back nextweek for the other lung which also has more fluid.

    Started my tamoxifin yesterday. Had dh read the insert, big mistake, he was freaking out about the SEs until I told him not taking it leads to an even bigger SE, DEATH...HELLOOOO

    Thanks for all the friend requests, I think I got you all now and will try to get my picture today...

    love you all, ran

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited January 2009

    Lauren,

    I am really interested in the DIEP procedure so please share your experience!

    ranD- is there anything they can do for the pain during that procedure- at least some I dont care or I wont remember medicine? Geez, seems like they ought to be able to do something.

    How are your kids handling all this- they are all on our prayer list now too?

    Kristy- off to see Randee on facebook since she made me a friend.

    Is anyone adding phone numbers to the mail list?

  • Roxi65229
    Roxi65229 Member Posts: 462
    edited January 2009

    Good morning all. Still waiting for ant sign of spring. Guess I'll leave it up to the Phil the groundhog. Haven't seen any songbirds except for my cardinals that live in our evergreens. 

    RanD-I'm with Kristy, no pain meds? That's just crazy.

    I'm sending my email and phone off to Karin. Karin, I have the list in word already, should I send it to you? It's actually set-up in mailing labels.

    Off to an early B-day celebration at my in-laws. They'll be gone next week at the Super Bowl party in Vegas so she invited us for dinner later. Looking forward to a quiet, relaxing day.

    Lauren, mines scheduled for June so please share your experience with us.

    Mary 

  • ranD
    ranD Member Posts: 373
    edited January 2009

    They numb the area up, but the first 2 "primitive" taps that didn't use ultrasound where no more annoying then a blood draw.  Apparently, when they use the ultrasound, the docs try and get cute and put the needle in at more of an angle which is where the pain comes from. At lest that's what the nurse told me after the fact.

    I actually told the doc that he had one last shot and I was pulling the tube out myself and running back to the onc ward and have them finish it there.  Good thing I had my dh waiting in the lobby, don;t think he would have handled it to well without resorting to husband rage.lol.

    I was yelling so loud that they had to stop and shut the back doors to my room.  I think I completely freaked them out, especially afterwards when I told them that I had a really high pain tolerance and this hurt more than childbirth without an epidural. What pricks doctors can be....lol..literally and figuratively

    ran

  • MsKarin
    MsKarin Member Posts: 647
    edited January 2009

    Jen - You are so computer savvy; do you know how to email a voice clip? We should send ranD's onco that clip. "S-Q-U-A--A-A-A-A-R-K!"

    Noelle - Hope you had fun playing last night. We all need a good amount of play time.

    Christine - You should plan a trip to go visit Aunts and Uncles so you can visit your sister.

    Lauren - Glad you decided to jump in. Welcome to our close knit family.

    ranD - So sorry for what you had to endure. I can't find the words so I won't try to. Instead ((((((((((((((ranD))))))))))))))

    Kristy - Yes the new list is snail mail addy, email addy, and phone # with time zone.

    Mary - Your good, I got it.

    To everyone else I didn't personally mention, you know I'm thinking of you today too.

    P.S. - Boy the way this board is jumping again, you can't afford to miss a day. It's like back during chemo when we had plenty of time to be on here. So glad I decided to put this want ahead of my needs. I love you gals. My wall is looking great, Thank you.

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited January 2009

    (((ranD))) .  This may be a stupid question, but can they put in a semi-permanent drain so that you don't have to keep going through this ordeal?  I think I'd have to have them put me under.  Putting someone through that much pain is assinine.

    I am also interested in the recon topic.  My BS gave me the name of a PS but I haven't had the nerve to call yet.  I hate my foob, so never wear it.  It makes my scar tender, moves around and I'm just always aware of it.  Not wearing it limits my wardrobe possibilities, especially in the coming Summer.  The thought of another surgery.....ugh.  More scars....great.

    Lauren - Glad you came out of lurkdom.  Welcome!

  • drcrisc
    drcrisc Member Posts: 836
    edited January 2009

    RanD - How about imagining squeezing the rad onc's you-know-whats while they're poking the hell out of your lung?  A little imagry always helps...

    Lauren - Good to see you again! 

    Karin - I agree - we are hopping!  So glad I'm making a point to check in once (or twice) a day!

    Gotta jump in the shower - I'm taking the girls to a local art shop today to paint ceramic things for Grandma's birthday.  Hey to Sue, Rock, Mary, Otter (where are you?), Eddie, Jen, Kristy - I'm sure I'm missing someone but not on purpose!

  • sueper13
    sueper13 Member Posts: 1,224
    edited January 2009

    Lauren, I remember you from the April thread.  How's your hair coming in? I remember that was very traumatic for you.   Let me/us know about your DIEP as I am choosing that option as well.  Right prophy mast, bilateral DIEP, sometime in Aprill or May.  Hope yours is effortless and you are happy with the results. Oh, and welcome! I agree, these women have saved my sanity.  (Love you all)....

    Having a friend come to visit for a week in February.  She lives in Australia.  We've been friends since we were 13, and I haven't seen her since 2004.  Also another friend, Kim is coming for 1 night, old high school friend, that I haven't SEEN since high school.  I'm doing some crazy cleaning this and next weekend to get the house ready.  I have a lot of anxiety because the last time Kim saw me I was thin and young, with long hair and two boobs.... at the same time they both supported me online through chemo and I realize how shallow the previous sentence sounds.  It's the me inside they want to spend time with.  Still, sometimes it is hard for me to feel "good enough", ya  know?

    Thanks for letting me vent that.  Off to clean some more.  Love you all very much.

    Sue

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited January 2009

    so much to write... more later likely.

    New boobs..? yes likely.. but cannot handle the idea of a DIEP and staying a triathete. I have my 1 year follow up with the surgeon on Monday so will ask some questions about weight lifting in people at risk for lymphodema and local and Toronto PS names.

    Foobs... well I saw a performance by an old old friend in drag last night and his foobs looked fab! I told him that it is not fair.. men in drag can fuss and fix their foobs in public and no one cares but straight post mast women cannot get away with that! 

    Lungs.. RanD, my stepdad had an external shunt built into his lungs to have them drained by my mom twice a day. He had an extremely rare form of cancer, but this procedure allowed him to stay at home and with the daily drains he could breath comfortably. He was 6foot 9 and apparently the needle taps made him scream bloody murder too! Tell them to feck off! For what it is worth, I am an expert at living in a house with cancer, rare( my stepdad and mom), terminal( once they accepted they would never find my mom's primary tumour and therefore never find the right chemo and had to give up) and my own and keeping home life sane and happy.... Screaming and Crying (as my mother called her own way of dealing with the emotional pain and stress of mets)and just getting on with day to day life as much as possible was how we handled it. My son was 1 when we moved into a life of cancer and now he is 10 and is quiet outspoken about cancer and treatments and such. I kept him protected from the really scary hard to understand stuff, but the day to day stuff was out in the open and we talked about stuff a lot. 

     Ok, I am babbling. I was planning to make this short. The world is my oyster today.. The store is dead, I slept in. My kid is at a neighbours and I can either work on my business in my house clothes or clean my house in my house clothes....  

     Love to all. Karin.. I will be in touch with phone numbers and such. The last of all y'all's ( love sayin' that, I was born to be a southern gal) packages are all in the states and should arrive any day. Cris and RanD's are being packed and shipped today.

     Anyone want to do the Austin texas tri with my on Labour Day weekend as a member of the LiveStong army?

     N

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited January 2009

    Sue, on feeling nervous about seeing your old high school friend . . . you may be older and not as thin and have one less boob than in high school, but (a) you're still beautiful (those legs!!!!) and (b) you're a whole lot more interesting now.   (Not to insult your high school self, but let's face it: high school kids are pretty boring.  Just check out a random teenager's Facebook, if they'll let you.)  Mainly, I'm so impressed that you've managed to stay in touch with a high school friend, through the years and across distance.  There's no one from those days that I'm still in touch with.

    Noelle, on fussing with foobs in public . . . I confess, I do that sometimes (even though I'm a straight woman).  I'll forget it's supposed to pass for an eroticized part of my body, and treat it as the fashion accessory it is.  (Then I'll snap to, and feel embarrassed.)

    Linda

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited January 2009

    I'm curious about the recon as well. I go back and forth everyday on whether or not to have it done. On one side it's yes get it done to feel normal. on the other I have .. will it effect my lymphodema problem, will I lose all feeling on the good side, do I really want to have it replaced every 10 feckin years. I have some time to think about it... heck I have a lifetime. But for now I just want to get done with my herceptin and pop the port out.

    Karin~ hmmmm maybe she should get one of those cards you can record on and rip out the electronic part and just keep that in her pocket. Personally I'm all for the hanging onto his family jewels and giving them a little squeeze. ;O)

  • MsKarin
    MsKarin Member Posts: 647
    edited January 2009

    Jen - We're talking about helping ranD out. Forget the tight squeeze, I'll do a Lorena Bobbit on her onco. Please forgive me, I couldn't help it.

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited January 2009

    The Bobbit Brigade

  • JulieC
    JulieC Member Posts: 324
    edited January 2009

    Ooh, that's better than shovels any day!

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited January 2009

    Karin~ that's what I meant. If she held onto them and if they hurt her give him a tight squeeze. then he would go easy on her LOL.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited January 2009

    Cristine, I'm right here!  I'm tring to find an on-line recording of a wattle bird to post so RanD can download it to an iPod and play it at her next doc's visit.  No luck so far.  Anybody have a link?

    As for being nervous about letting old friends see us...  Karin knows how self-conscious I am, even now.  I still haven't sent her a pic for her collage.  And, one of my dear relatives asked my dh to set up Skype on our computers so she could talk to/see us.  My dh set it up and it seems to work fine, although our connection is too slow for the image to be clear.

    But, me?  Now I'm fretting about what I look like when I'm lounging around the house, not expecting company or video calls.   Good thing the Skype image is so pixelated!

    So, how many of y'all are on Facebook?  I think I'm almost ready to launch into it.  Should I use my real name?  I don't want to use "otter", since that's my BCO name.  Would you be able to find me?  How can I find you?  (Sheesh.  Talk about a rookie.)

    Speaking of otters (rock, are you keeping up with this?):  I found out the other day that my "Native American" zodiac sign is ... get this:  an otter.  Who cares if I don't have any Native American blood in me--can I keep my zodiac sign anyway?  My "traditional" astrological sign is Aquarius, which works, too; "otter" is even better.

    Ahem.  Recon?  Do I have to?  No, I didn't think so.  There is no way I'm lettin' 'em cut into my chest again.  Unless something bad happens on the other side, of course.

    I have to admit that it is sort of quirky to see myself totally flat on one side and uniboob on the other.  And, I have to admit that I'm way less than 100% happy with the prosthesis/mast bra situation.  I bought a $$$ foob last fall that I've worn exactly ... zero times.  I bought two mast bras from the same fitter, and neither one is comfortable.  One is too tight--I knew it would be, but the fitter said it was "perfect".  The other has a big, nasty "buckle" where the strap connects to the bra.  It hits my still-tender upper chest at exactly the wrong place.

    Good thing I can lounge around most days with nothing under my shirt!  Just don't Skype me and expect to see anything elaborate.

    Hugs to all...

    otter 

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited January 2009

    Otter - I think the majority of us are on Facebook now, with ranD and Karin just having joined.  I'm pretty sure we've all used our real names.  If you let one of us know when you've joined, we can than connect the rest of us to you.

    I haven't sent Karin a picture yet either :( .  Guess I should have someone take one.  I've always managed to stay behind the camera.

    Since I dislike my foob so much, I've opted for inexpensive sports bras from Walmart. 

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