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There are many different types of intelligence. Great things can happen when people combine their brainy attributes.
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To be perfectly honest I just can't wait until January 20th is over. I am truly tired of all the blame game stuff going on in the media, on the web.
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Rosemary I am still looking but did run across this book that I have not seen before and I will be on a mission to get it. I read a lot of library books, so I might have seen the infor on Arimidex there. I have about 5 books on my desk right now, this is why I forget what I see where. I am a bit obsessed with all this prevention stuff! LOL
Here is the book I want to find. It is by a Dr. John Lee who began the research about the link to hormones and health. His website has a lot of good info on his research. This book on breast cancer sounds great:
What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Breast Cancer
$12.95 
How Hormone Balance Can Help Save Your Life
by John R. Lee, M.D., David Zava, Ph.D. and Virginia Hopkins
Warner Books 2002 (410 Pages)Here's where to find the Table of Contents for this unique book that really gets to the bottom of why women get breast cancer and how to prevent it. Once again, John R. Lee, M.D., and colleague Dr. David Zava are standing up to tell the truth about breast cancer.
Table of Contents
Introduction
PART ONE THE HISTORY, POLITICS AND NATURE OF BREAST CANCERChapter 1
THE HISTORY AND POLITICS OF THE BREAST CANCER INDUSTRY
Why we can't seem to prevent or cure breast cancer.Chapter 2
RISK FACTORS FOR BREAST CANCER
Why it All Points to EstrogenChapter 3
THE NATURE OF CANCER
Normal cells that refuse to grow up.Chapter 4
OTHER FACTORS THAT INCREASE BREAST CANCER RISK
Insulin resistance, birth control pills, early puberty, DHEA, prolactin, melatonin, thyroid.Chapter 5
THE NATURE OF BREAST CANCER
Nurturing gone awry.PART II
THE SEX HORMONES AND HOW THEY AFFECT BREAST CANCER
Chapter 6
THE NATURE OF ESTROGENS
Angels of Life, Angels of DeathChapter 7
HOW ESTROGEN TALKS TO YOUR CELLS
The Right Communication is Everything.Chapter 8
ESTRIOL, A SAFER REPLACEMENT ESTROGEN
Mother Nature's Designer EstrogenChapter 9
THE NATURE OF PROGESTERONE
The Great ProtectorChapter 10
THE NATURE OF THE ANDROGENS
The part that the "male" hormones plays in a woman's hormonal orchestra.Chapter 11
THE PROBLEM OF ERT AND HRT
How hormone replacement therapy causes cancer.Chapter 12
PART THREE
TAMOXIFEN AND RALOXIFENE
Why synthetic drugs create new problems.
PRACTICAL ADVICE FOR PREVENTING AND HEALING BREAST CANCERChapter 13
HOW AND WHEN TO USE PROGESTERONE
The guardian angel of breast cancer.Chapter 14
HOW AND WHEN TO USE OTHER HORMONES
Estrogen, DHEA, Pregnenolone, the Corticosteroids, Testosterone and AndrostenedioneChapter 15
TESTING AND SYMPTOMS
How to Determine Your Hormone BalanceChapter 16
THE LIGHT AND DARK SIDES OF SOY
How to eat soy so that it helps.Chapter 17
HOW NUTRITION AFFECTS YOUR BREAST CANCER RISK
Making good choices can make the difference.Chapter 18
PROTECTING THE PRESENT AND THE FUTURE
Creating an environment where cancer can't get started.REFERENCES
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Markets cheer U.S. bank actions
STEPHEN BERNARD, The Associated Press, The Canadian Press
London - - World markets rose Friday as investors breathed a sigh of relief that Bank of America, the biggest bank in the U.S., has been bailed out by the federal government and that Citigroup Inc. took steps to bolster its balance sheet.
Markets across the world had posted heavy losses this week on renewed fears about the financial health of the global banking system, but investors brushed aside multibillion dollar fourth quarter losses from the banks Friday and focused instead on their attempts to plug potentially massive funding gaps.
The FTSE 100 index of leading British shares was up 76.90 points, or 1.9 per cent, at 4,198.01, while Germany's DAX jumped 69.42 points, or 1.6 per cent, to 4,406.15. The CAC-40 in France was up 62.38 points, or 2.1 per cent, at 3,058.26.
The Toronto stock market turned lower mid-morning as losses in the financial sector picked up and gains in the energy sector faltered while oil prices rose after two days of steep declines.
Toronto's S&P/TSX composite index, up over 100 points in early trading, declined 17.9 points to 8,861.7.
In the U.S., the Dow Jones industrial average was up 75.50 points, or 0.9 per cent, to 8,287.99, while the broader Standard & Poor's 500 index rose 9.28 points, or 1.1 per cent, to 853.02.
Citigroup, among the hardest hit by the ongoing credit and mortgage market turmoil, said it will split its operations in two, separating its traditional banking business from the company's riskier assets. The move by Citi follows a deal earlier in the week to sell control of its brokerage business to Morgan Stanley as it looks to streamline operations and shed assets.
Citi said it lost $8.29-billion (U.S.) or $1.72 a share, during the final three months of the year.
Bank of America said it lost $2.39-billion or 48 cents a share. That news came hours after Bank of America agreed on a deal to receive an additional $20-billion in support from the government. The bank will also receive guarantees to cover up to $118 billion in losses on loans and securities backed by residential and commercial real estate as it incorporates recently acquired Merrill Lynch & Co. into its operations. Bank of America's deal with the government is similar to one Citigroup reached with the government last fall.
Michael Sheldon, chief market strategist at RDM Financial Group, said the news on Citi and Bank of America has helped extend a rebound on Wall Street that began Thursday afternoon after more than a week of selling.
"It's a bit of a continuation from yesterday's turnaround and a little bit of relief that the largest U.S. banks will get funding if they need it from the U.S. government," Mr. Sheldon said.
Mr. Sheldon said investors might also be upbeat about a report from the University of Michigan and Reuters showing consumer sentiment was slightly higher in early January. Consumer sentiment rose to 61.9 from a reading of 60.1 in late December.
"It's the highest level since September," Mr. Sheldon said. "Maybe that's an indication investors are feeling a little better about the economy and financial sector."
The Labor Department said the consumer price index fell a less-than-expected 0.7 per cent in December as energy prices slid. Economists polled by Thomson Reuters were predicting a 0.9 per cent drop. For the full year, prices rose just 0.1 per cent - the smallest gain since prices fell in 1954.
The market showed little reaction to the U.S. government's latest reports showing the economy remains weak.
Hopes of a turnaround in the world economy by the middle of this year have evaporated as investors grappled with increasingly grim economic and corporate data from across the world.
"Worse-than-expected economic data, growing default expectations and more concerns about the banking industry have contributed to a new decline in equity prices and a rise in both volatility and risk aversion," said Herve Goulletquer, an analyst at Calyon Credit Agricole.
Earlier, Japan's Nikkei 225 stock average added 206.84 points, or 2.6 per cent, to 8,230.15, while Hong Kong's Hang Seng edged higher 12.55 points, or 0.1 per cent, to 13,255.51.
Elsewhere in Asia, the Shanghai Composite Index climbed 1.8 per cent, while benchmarks in South Korea, Singapore, Australia, Taiwan and India also advanced.
Oil prices continued to fluctuate with crude light, sweet crude for February delivery down 50 cents at $34.90 a barrel. Overnight, the contract fell 5 per cent, or $1.88, to settle at $35.40, swooning as low as $33.20 during the session to a near five-year low.
Bond prices fell. The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note, which moves opposite its price, rose to 2.36 per cent from 2.20 per cent late Thursday. The yield on the three-month T-bill, considered one of the safest investments, rose to 0.13 per cent from 0.10 per cent late Thursday.
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Good morning Republicans and Democrat lites..............Mr. Spouse now don't tell me that you were a member of the "Ashram"?.............oh those were the good old days............I use to wait tables in college at an Ashram restaurant............they called us "Roadies".........because we didn't live in the compound...........or belong to their "higher level of consciouses".............one time I accidentally walked in on a meditation session and it scared the holy crap out of me........never did that again............anyway Mr. Spouse I know your type........the only problem is why are you here on this thread?........shouldn't you be "over" there?.........ha..............you must have really become enlighten over the years............congrats on Cam's wonderful test results.............
Ok guys I have been busy the last couple of days........what in the hell happen?...........oh my goodness..........know come on you know we are the evil ones.........we don't care about anyone but ourselves..........we are money hungry, self serving, polluting, self center conservatives that don't give a rat's backside about the environment........animals...........poor people........black people............homeless people..............sick people.............stupid people........people that don't believe what we believe............I mean come on.............everyone knows that is true..........I mean after all........Obama is only spending 150 million on his inaugurtion.........it doesn't matter how many children could get some health insurance for that money..........how many people could get a warm meal and some place to stay........how many people could get malaria shots........how many people could get some HIV treatment.........how many condoms that would buy........how many children could get vaccinated with that money........none of that is important.......it is important to throw the biggest damn party every in the world because Obama is going to save us...........and we should be thankful.......we won't have to worry about paying our mortgage or putting gas in our cars........I am just so relieved...........what a glorious day...........Shokk
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Herbie
I just went back and read your post. I know I keep telling you this, but I love the way you write. You really are brilliant. It is not surprising that you have a high IQ. I just hope that when you get around to writing that book about getting your wife through all this, and I hope you will remember that we egged you on! You have a real gift with words. Please share your gift with others. Get that book going!
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shokk,
No I never lived in a ashram, Cam did.
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vivre, the term is not have it is had.
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Obama hails 'extraordinary' moment with presidents
By BEN FELLER
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Confronting a grim economy and a Middle East on fire, Barack Obama turned Wednesday to perhaps the only people on the planet who understand what he's in for: the four living members of the U.S. presidents' club.
In an image bound to go down in history, every living U.S. president came together at the White House on Wednesday to hash over the world's challenges with the president-elect. There they stood, shoulder-to-shoulder in the Oval Office: George H.W. Bush, Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.
"This is an extraordinary gathering," Obama said, looking plenty at ease in the humbling office that will soon be his.
"All the gentlemen here understand both the pressures and possibilities of this office," Obama said. "And for me to have the opportunity to get advice, good counsel and fellowship with these individuals is extraordinary. And I'm very grateful to all of them."
Bush, blistered without mercy by Obama during the campaign season, played the role of gracious host.
"All of us who have served in this office understand that the office transcends the individual," Bush said as Obama nodded in thanks. "And we wish you all the very best. And so does the country."
It was a moment of statesmanship that tends to happen when presidents get together, no matter how bitter their previous rivalries. In a photo opportunity that lasted less than two minutes, Carter, Clinton and the senior Bush smiled but said nothing. They deferred to the nation's incoming and outgoing leaders.
Earlier, Bush and Obama met privately in the Oval Office in a chat expected to cover events of the day, mainly the troubled economy and Middle East. The two have shown solidarity since Obama's win in November, with one previous Oval Office sit-down and at least a few phone calls in recent weeks.
All sides were determined to say as little as possible about what was discussed.
Presidents -- new, old, incoming -- like to keep their conversations private.
Without offering any specifics, Obama press secretary Robert Gibbs said all the presidents "had helpful advice on managing the office as well as thoughts on the critical issues facing the country right now. The president-elect is anxious to stay in touch with all of them in the coming years."
From the White House, press secretary Dana Perino said the discussion was "wide-ranging" but declined to comment further. Before the gathering, she had said she could not imagine the leaders would meet without discussing the Middle East, where conflict rages in Gaza, or the economy, which is sinking.
The White House would not even say what the men ate, allowing only that they ordered off the menu of the White House mess, as Bush does all the time.
Intentionally or not, Bush opened the media moment in a curious way, suggesting that he was already out the door.
"I want to thank the president-elect for joining the ex-presidents for lunch," said Bush, who is in fact still the president until Jan. 20.
"One message that I have, and I think we all share, is that we want you to succeed," Bush added, a beaming Clinton at his other side. "Whether we're Democrat or Republican, we care deeply about this country."
White House aides tried to usher the media out of the Oval Office when Bush stopped speaking. The lighting for the event even went dark.
But sometimes, there is more than one president at a time.
Obama spoke up on his own, the lights went back on, and the cameras kept rolling.
"I just want to thank the president for hosting us," Obama said. When a reporter asked Obama what he could learn from the mistakes of the four presidents surrounding him, he smiled and said he planned to learn from their successes.
The get-together was Obama's idea, and Bush liked it. The lunch lasted about 90 minutes, held in a small dining room off the Oval Office.
Carter, Clinton and the two Bush presidents were last together at the Washington funeral service of President Gerald Ford in 2007. And presidents have gathered at other occasions over the years. But not since October 1981-- 27 years ago -- had all of the living residents gathered at the White House. -
Mr. Spouse I knew when you said mental masturbation........(never thought I would hear that term here at bc.org)........that was their "big thing".......once you could achieve that particular talent then you were at the highest level of "enlightenment".............interesting that Cam was a member.........they only recruited the most intelligent kids...........I was never asked to join.......hmmmmm.........wonder why..............Shokk
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Okay, it was 12 degrees this am in Georgia! Brrrrrrrr!!!
And thanks badboob, I was gonna ask what mensa was, but you answered it! I guess if I have to ask, I am not that smart.......
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Moody ... don't say that about yourself!!
My dad was talking to my daughter about the difference between stupid and ignorant. It's ok to be ignorant of some things .. we all can't know everything about everything. They had some funny conversations about that and boy can she come up with some zingers!
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Your right Rock, I am smart, just my elevator is a little rusty, so takes it a while to get all the way to the top! LOL
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And what is wrong with mental masturbation? Isn't that what my morning Sudoku and the Sunday Times crossword are? I need them, more than sex I think.
However I was a Mensa member for a while and I have to say that their meetings are about as interesting as watching paint dry.
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Maybe since the poor people were tortured and probably are just some schmucks that got caught innocently who don't want to go back home or for some reason will be killed if they go home, maybe the WH will build temporary housing for them. Probably even give them SS benefits and Medicare. Do you think DC would be a good place to let them live, how about on the WH lawn?
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Summer Thanks for the article about the WH meeting with the POTUS. It did not surprise me that someone from the liberal media like the AP would try to spin it to make Bush look bad. Saying how it was set up by Obama. Where did he get that crock? If it was Obama's idea, then why didn't HE just wait until HE was in office then HE would look like the hero for having the meeting. The truth is, Bush set it up and invited everyone and HE could not turn down a request by the president or HE would look like a smuck. What is the liberal media going to do when they do not have Bush to Bash anymore. I wonder if they will morph into bamabashers? I seriously doubt it. They did everything possible to get him elected so that do not want him to look bad. Bama will do no wrong.
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rock since some believe in redistribution of wealth, perhaps that should not be restricted to our homeland but include the entire world. so then these poor innocent souls are more than entitled to all benefits our great country has to offer. just curious, what is everyone doing tuesday while not watching the great one with the masses falling to their feet in adoration. not to be misunderstood, i'm very proud of my country that an african american was elected to the highest office in the land and wish him much success. i just don't trust or believe him...been around too long. just my uneducated opinion. i think i'm still entitled to that under the constitution
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Where did Bush look bad, in the article? I thought it put all 4 presidents and pe in a favourable light? I give up.
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Hey Shokk, did I hear my name mentioned?????
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There is a teacher here in Ga who is taking his kids to the inaguration, they were showing him on TV telling the kids....he was CRYING. The kids were all excited, but he was crying like he had just been crowned mr. america. I was like "your kidding right?" I can understand the excitement, but the tears? A tad bit much...
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Vivre,
Thanks for the book. Not to belabor the point about hormones and the part they play, but I will. One Dr. had her own perspective. When do a lot of us get dx'd? When we are suppose to be low on hormones, low on estrogen, yet we get it and they give us pills to even lower our estrogen more. Her thought was, maybe that's the problem. We are too low on estrogen and that might open the door to bc. Then my thought was, if that is so, then why does having even less estrogen keep us from getting it back? So much yet to discover.
IBC, you are a very good writer. So is Shokk. Shokk, Do you talk the same way you write because what a crack up you are. How do you think up that stuff?
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Rosemary, I have often wondered about the current estrogen theory(s) too. Estrogen levels drop as we age, and yet incidence of breast cancer increase as we age.
Estrogen is not one hormone it is actually 3 - estradiol, estrone, and estriol, and most studies on estrogen use estradiol.
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Hey Mensa your ears must have been burning...............Shokk
Yes Rosemary pretty much you see is what you get when it is concerning me...........I talk the talk and walk the talk......Shokk
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Rosemary, You hit the nail right on the head about the estrogen! It is not the loss of estrogen that is the problem, but the dominance of estrogen which feeds cancer cells. The key is the loss of progesterone, which counteracts the estrogen. Even though estrogens lower after menopause, they do not drop out completely as progesterone does, hence we become estrogen dominant. We have another hormone, called Growth hormone something that is also a protectent and it drops too. There are doctors who are finally studing all this and it is so exciting to see that they are looking at disease and aging from a totally new perspective.
What got me interested in all this is Suzanne Somer's new book, Breakthrough. She interviews all these cutting edge doctors and talks about the aging process and how hormones and diet effect everything that happens to us. I have never been into celebrities pushing products, but this book is fascinating. It sort of pulled together all these little bits of info I have been pursuing this past year, and tied it all together so that it is understandable. Suzanne Somers is a great example that this stuff works. She refused chemo, but did do rads. She had a large tumor, and with diet and her compulsion to balance her hormones has remained cancer free for years. And she looks pretty damn good for someone in her 60's. The part that I really related to was how she talked about how great she feels now. I do not feel my hormones are totally balanced yet, my progesterone is still low, and I have to decide if I am going to go this route of bioidentical hormone replacement, but with lowered estrogen levels, I already feel better, sleep better, have been able to lose weight, etc. She said it too her a couple of years to get everything in sync so that is why I am still working on figuring it all out. Nonetheless, I am so excited about all this because it seems like the answer we have been looking for.
So how do you all like the new thread?
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new thread?
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Hey mke there is nothing wrong with mental masturbation............I could be wrong but I always believed that it was more of a guy thing.........but actually that is quite funny........a form of mental(well you know) is doing the NYT crossword puzzle.......ha.........Shokk.
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new thread?
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New thread Vivre?
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Maria and Artsee, I guess you do not hang around here enough to know that we sometimes try to be funny.LOL I meant that I have hijacked this thread with all my talk about estrogens! I am being facetious. I guess I do not do it as well as Schokk and IBC do. When they try to be funny, people get their jokes!
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What's funny, is I was thinking earlier this week the exact same thing about hormones that you guys have been talking about today! If estrogen feeds some tumors, and menopause lowers estrogen, why is it more post meno-pausal women get bc than pre-menopausal do.
Thanks for answering my question.
Did you guys hear that LuAnnH's son is on his way home from Iraq? Actually, he may be in Texas NOW!!!!!!! He was in the air wednesday night, I dont know where and how long any lay overs mihgt be, but isn't that AWESOME!!!!!!!
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