Any one into LOST or FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS?!
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Ooo.... and there was see a comic book again. Remember we saw that Walt had a comic book before and it had Polar bears and igloos on the cover.
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Has anybody else noticed that they are always opening the scene at the beginning of the show with one eye ... like its shut and then opens all of a sudden!
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I found this tidbit online ... I never would have even caught it even though I love the X-Men movies.
This is from when Richard went to meet John at his foster parents house. This would be the 2nd time he meets John and of course, he has not aged one bit!
"Richard Alpert's line "I'm Richard, John. I run a school for kids who are... extremely special, and I have reason to believe that you might be one of them." is almost word for word a very common line spoken by Charles Xavier (Professor X) in the various incarnations of "X-Men" when recruiting young mutants."
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Rocktobermom: you are so right! I saw all the clues you mentioned but did not make the connection on some of them until you brought them up!!!!!!!! Gee, I wish we could sit together and watch the show so you could open my eyes for those LOST details I miss...
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NBN, it seems the Others know how to get off and on the Island very easily. I wonder if the submarine was the only way. It seems to me that Ben would have already gotten off the Island if he could have. Now, John has to "save" the Island ... how are they going to MOVE the Island????
The time thing is driving me nuts. When the freighter shot off the beacon to the Island, it was a time lag. Now when the dr got his throat slit, the Island found the body before the event even really happened.... like the Island was now in the future. Then we had Desmond with his brain going from one time to the next and his visions of the future. Who said the island was like in a snow globe?
Mittelos ... lost time ... is very appropriate!!
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Rock: did you watch it last night? What do you think?
I think the remaining gang is still alive, b/c we already had a previous of the future relating to Jin and the panda toy... a previous of Benjamin's life...
And I think Locke did move the island...
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Remember though, that Jin and panda toy flash was a backwards in time flash, not forward one. He said he was a newly-wed.
Who knows. I'm so confused, I'm lucky I can name the characters at this point! -
BT: I think Jin was lying on that flash so he could get in and see his wife... remember that he does not get along w/ his FIL!
I think that the Oceanic 6 think that all left behind in the island died but they did not die... they still alive... at least some of them... like Benjamin....
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Benjamin is still alive, but doing his evil dirty work in the civilized world, right? Like how he was getting Sayid to kill that guy?
This show makes my head hurt. Ow.
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NBN, the Lost people have said Jin's was a flashback .... the cell phone that he used was even old.
Regarding Sayid: remember, Nadia gets killed by the Widmore people so that's how Ben gets Sayid to go back to his killing ways. He wants vengeance.
Well, now we know why Matthew Fox's character can't find the Island and is flying over and over everyday looking for it.
We know they are alive since Charlie's hand said, "They need your help."
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Anyone watched the season finale last night?
I still believe Jin is alive even though w/ that boat explosion it would be difficult for anyone to survive.
Locke dead?!?!?! Uau...
The season finale was everything I expected and than more (it all came full circle to the present moment, w/ plenty still to be discovered)... can't wait for it to start again....
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was an awesome finale. When my son is napping, I am SOOO researching it online.
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Here's stuff on Jeremy Bentham and his association with John Locke and "prisoners" and followers, even a Rousseau is mentioned:
Name reference to philosopher Jeremy Bentham
Jeremy Bentham (15 February 1748-6 June 1832) - was an English jurist, philosopher, and legal and social reformer. He was a political radical, and a leading theorist in Anglo-American philosophy of law. He was a child prodigy and was found as a toddler sitting at his father's desk reading a multi-volume history of England and began his study of Latin at the age of three.
He was a political radical best known for his advocacy of utilitarianism, a form of consequentialism, meaning that the moral worth of an action is determined by its outcome - the ends justify the means. Utilitarianism argued that the "right" action or policy was that which would cause "the greatest happiness of the greatest number". His critics objected saying that it would therefore "...be acceptable to torture one person if this would produce an amount of happiness in other people outweighing the unhappiness of the tortured individual."
Bentham also designed a famous prison structure called the "Panopticon", which creates a sense of constant surveillance and paranoia amongst prisoners.
Bentham was also known for his outspoken opposition to the French revolutionary discourse of natural rights, an idea championed by philosopher John Locke (whose father, also named John Locke, worked for Jeremy Bentham). He also suggested a procedure for estimating the moral status of any action. His principle regards "good" as that which produces the greatest amount of physical or spiritual pleasure, and the minimum amount of pain; and "evil" as that which produces the most pain without the pleasure.
Bentham also argued that the ability to suffer, not the ability to reason, must be the benchmark of how we treat other beings. He stated that if the ability to reason were the criterion, many human beings, including babies and disabled people, would have to be treated as though they were things, rather than beings.
The Jacobins
Bentham was an outspoken critic of the violence which arose after a group called "The Jacobins" seized power in a coup after the fall of the French monarchy -- on September 21, 1792.
Originated as the "Club Bentham", "The Jacobin Club" was the largest and most powerful political club of the French Revolution. It was led by Maximillian Robespierre, self-styled as "the Incorruptible", he was a disciple of philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau. As such, his political views were rooted in Rousseau's notion of the social contract, which promoted "the rights of man" (however, Robespierre's version was of collective rights, rather than individual rights). Any club member who by word or action showed that his principles were contrary to the constitution and 'the rights of man' was to be expelled, a rule which later on facilitated the "purification" of French society by the expulsion of its more moderate elements - this became known as the "Reign of Terror". Robespierre described it thus: "Terror is nothing other than prompt, severe, inflexible justice."
Later, Robespierre (leader of The Jacobins) had a decree passed that established the "Cult of the Supreme Being". The notion of the Supreme Being was based on ideas that Jean-Jacques Rousseau had outlined in "The Social Contract". Robespierre made it clear that his concept of a Supreme Being was far different from the traditional God of Christianity. Robespierre's Supreme Being was a radical democrat, like the Jacobins. He explained: "Is it not He whose immortal hand, engraving on the heart of man the code of justice and equality, has written there the death sentence of tyrants? Is it not He who, from the beginning of time, decreed for all the ages and for all peoples liberty, good faith, and justice? He did not create kings to devour the human race. He did not create priests to harness us, like vile animals, to the chariots of kings and to give to the world examples of baseness, pride, perfidy, avarice, debauchery, and falsehood. He created the universe to proclaim His power. He created men to help each other, to love each other mutually, and to attain to happiness by the way of virtue."
Bentham's auto-icon
As requested in his will, Jeremy Bentham's body was preserved and stored in a wooden cabinet, termed his "Auto-icon". The Auto-icon is kept on public display at the end of the South Cloisters in the main building of University College London, his alma mater. For the 100th and 150th anniversaries of the College, the Auto-icon was brought to the meeting of the College Council, where he was listed as "present but not voting". Tradition holds that if the council's vote on any motion is tied, the auto-icon always breaks the tie by voting in favour of the motion. The Auto-icon has always had a wax head, as Bentham's head was badly damaged in the preservation process.
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Rock-how the crap did you find that stuff?!?! Amazing!
I'm going to have to spout it out to my hubby and act like I just knew it all along. HA! -
See where it said that Bentham treats disabled and babies as things? I wonder if this will come into play regarding Aaron and the reason Claire doesn't want Aaron back on the Island. Do you think Locke's head could be wax?? LOL!!
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And the whole who is Charlotte is tripping me out! And Miles!
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Thought I would bump this up since the new season of Lost starts soon.
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Oh my gosh, I can hardly wait. I have completely forgotten everything about the storyline, though!!!!
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Don't they usually show the last couple of episodes from the last season right before the new season premiere? At least, that's what I'm hoping. You can always go to the ABC site and watch the last couple of last year's episodes online.
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Lost starts this coming Wednesday with some review episodes from last season.
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I w/ be glued to the TV... and FNL is coming back too! About freaking time!
HURRAY!!!!!!!!!
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Hi can I join in? So glad to find some LOST fans!!! I love this show and no one I know cares for it. Guess I'm an odd ball. I watched 2 of the 3 eps last night - fell asleep so will have to watch it on line later. Looking forward to this season and somebody to share it with! Got to go to work now...
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Welcome to the Lost thread Journey. I didn't watch last night because of American Idol but will be watching when the new season shows start. And it is nice that episodes are online too.
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The new season of Lost starts tonight. Just a remind for Lost fans.
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AAAAHHH!!!! I'm so excited, I've been counting the days down!
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Well, I saw the previous season review show but the main new season opener has been moved to later tonight because of a sports show. Argghhhh!
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I made the mistake of getting all comfy in bed at 8 EST last night to watch Lost. Well the first hour was the directors review (AGAIN??). So I made it thru the 9:00 show but when the 10:00 came around I just could not stay awake. Will have to watch that on line this weekend. It was interesting to finally get some answers or direction to some of the island's quirks!
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All I can say is OMG! What a 2 hour show! Now "we are really" LOST! Got to watch it to know what I am referring to... but it's so amazing how all ties up, full circle! Well, almost complete circle... almost...WOW!
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NOOOOOO - okay I am going to watch the last show tonight. I'll close my "eyes and ears" if y'all want to talk about it.
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I finally watched the season opening last night online. Funny how the rest of the Oceanic 6 are running and trying to hide from Ben and Jack. Does anyone have a clue who the lady is that Ben is consulting that told him he had 70 hours to get everyone together?
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I watched it on line last night as well. Wasn't she the one who had something to do with the picture of Desmond and Penny...a junk shop or something from a couple of seasons ago?
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