Has anyone started a forum for Chemo in Dec 2008?
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Lisa, what is your detox soak??
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Ok, the hair is gone, and here's the pics - my oldest son and his almost 14-yr-old twin daughters came today and took the scissors, clippers and electric razor to it! We had a great time, and the laughter made it a lot easier. I had not yet really started shedding, so am wondering if I'll be able to escape some of the hurting, burning, itching, etc., but who knows...am taking notes on what has worked for others, and already put some lotion on my head
now have to get serious about getting some decent hats and deciding if I'm going to get a wig
simvog - thanks so much for keeping the list up
bold - hope you're feeling better
hope everyone else is doing good, I know I feel so much stronger being a part of this wonderful group
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Well Divas went to the onc this morning and was so fully ready to begin my chemo and can not explain the disapointment when he told me he would like my insicion to heal a few more days before starting the chemo, says that if I do get the avastin that my body will make no good cells in addition to not allowing any cancer cells grow so healing will not be slow, it just will not happen. Monday is the day 8:45 am, do not have to see the onc. just show up for tx.
For dry skin anywhere my onc nurse said that Aquafilic cream is what they suggest, by pharmacy at Wal Mart, very generic looking, white container, black print. Very thick but very effective.
I hope that everyone has a great weekend! I too would love to know about the detox soak.
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Hi Alyssa, I just looked up Avastin and you really do need to wait until you are healed up before having that. I don't remember, is this part of a study you're part of? I know it's been really disappointing for you but it's better to be careful. I hope Monday can be the day for you.
Colleen, I didn't realize you weren't losing your hair. Is that typical with CMF? How unfair for someone to say if you don't lose your hair, you must be ok. That is only one of so many SEs that we have to deal with. Not to mention all the emotional stuff too. I think most of us have ports for our treatments so we don't have to deal with the finding a vein thing. How many treatments are you getting? By the way, I had a friend come by today and she was saying how great I looked. I had no makeup on, I was wearing sweats and had a nasty little scarf on my head. Then she said, "Did you lose weight?" Ya right. I've gained 20 lbs in the last 3 months. I think they don't know what to say or they're trying to make us feel better about not feeling good. But that hair comment? That is unforgivable. Hang in there.
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Well, I've been reading this board for a few weeks and it's time for me to jump in. I had my first treatment of TC on Dec. 19. My next one will be on Jan. 9. I will have 6 in all. They told me that my hair would fall out 10 - 14 days after my first Tx so I got my hair cut to less than an inch on day 11. Boy am I glad I did. On day 14 I got in the shower and rinsed my hair and both hands came down with a ton of hair on them. Over and over again my hands were full of hair. All I could do was say "Oh Wow!" over and over. Believe it or not there is still some hair up there. I guess it will all be gone in the next day or two.
Is anyone else having trouble with the Neulasta shot? The side effects of the chemo (at least the first one) were manageable but that shot almost killed me!!! I had horrible bone pain. I walked around either on drugs or bent over like a little old woman. My plan was to have chemo on a Friday and go back to work on Monday. Since I now have to have a shot that almost kills me for a week, that plan is not working very well. I plan to talk to my doctor about whether they can back down the dose of the shot or if they can just watch my blood count and see if I really need it. If I really need it I will take it but I also need to keep working. I am an elementary school principal and would like very much to keep my job. Also, financially we need the money to help pay for all of these treatments. Anyway, if you have any suggestions other than pain pills, let me know.
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Colleen, so sorry about the comment. At this point, I've gotten a few, ready to snap back! LOL! A week into my first tx, someone told me I looked great to which I answered "I might look great but I still feel like crap!" oops!
Cat, the top of my head was very painful and was the biggest reason for me going bald around the house. Everyone uses a pet roller, you can use tape, big shipping labels.. anything sticky BUT NO WAX to get the stubble out. I found that whenever my head would hurt, I would "tape" it and it would feel better. Since they're stubble, you can't really pull them.
msbusdriver, DON'T USE WAX. When I went for the LGFB program, I asked her about waxing my upper lip which is beyond due but never got around to do before tx, she said not to use wax. With tape, you remove what's falling, with wax, you pull hair and it might irrited your skin pretty bad. I would use an electric razor before I would wax. Just my opinion.
Well, I figured out that my dry scalp is really a rash
The top of my scalp is dry, but the back of my head from ear to ear is a rash. Red little bumps all over that itches pretty bad. I got a tube of hydrocortisone yesterday, it's barely helping. Called the onc on call last night, she said to try benadryl cream and if that doesn't work, to go in on Monday to show them my head. No fever, altough after telling her no, I took my temperature to find 99.5F! My hopes are in benadryl or it will have to wait till Tuesday as I'm going for my citizenship test on Monday and driving my parents back to the airport after.
About the weight... my dad just told me, that since I don't have much of an appetite, maybe it would be a good time to lose weight!!!
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Hi Mombos, Welcome to the December Divas. As far at that darn Neulasta shot, I don't know that there is anything you can do about the week of pain. I'm in day 4 now of getting my shot and I think I may die. I really wanted to go out with DH to look for a wig today but I think I'm more destined to just stay in bed. It certainly does make wanting to get to work difficult.
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I slept all day and night yesterday. Aparently the steriod they give me isn't having any affect on my sleeping. I took an Emend so I have no nausea and I'm still able to drink coffee this morning. I just hate the smell that gets in my nose after my TX. It's just yuck and I feell I can smells the drugs for days. I was sucking on some mints yesterday during TX and that seemed to helped.
My booty rash seems better today. I didn't mention it to my Onc. I didn't want him checking him out! I've been putting Cortaid on it.
Divas, I'm hope you are all doing well today. Hugs, Elaine
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jajebr3--
I feel for you. I developed a hematoma and infection in my breast after my surgery. I had to delay chemo until the infection had cleared. In all, it was just over four weeks between the hematoma repair and the start of chemo. I got VERY frustrated with all of the wait time. But, finally I did start and on December 4th I FINISHED chemo. You will get there too.
Good luck to all and may your SE be minimal.
Jordie
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Hi Mary
Basically it is a soak for your tub that helps pull toxins from your body. Very much like what you would get at a spa. The soak is made from sea water/botanicals and seawater is very therapueutic. I have many clients who have fibromyalgia and RA who use this on a regular basis. Not only does it help pull toxins from your body...it really nurtures and softens the skin.
I forgot to order more before my second TX...I forgot I had given my last packet away! LOL
If you want more information, let me know. It's actually on special this month...normally $65 for 8 packets...this month only $29. I'm stocking up!
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Well today is the day. In the shower this morning the hair came out everyone time I touched my head...strands of hair everywhere. I was hoping I would be the magical exception - here I am day 15 and still have hair! but that was not to be. I wil have my brother use his clippers tonight. Not sure how I will feel. I think I was dreading this the most.
Mombos - sorry about the neulasta pin. I had some too but only lasted about 3 days...took Lortab so I could sleep. Hopefully you won't have the same reaction next time. You and I are on the same schedule. I had my first 12/19- only difference is my 2nd is 1/8 - the onc nurse asked if I wanted it on a Thursday instead I said yes !- it means I will end one day sooner..
I hope all have a good SE free (or at least manageable) day today I am reading "The Middle Place" -recommended on this site. if anyone wants - i wil mail it to them when i am done.
Take care.
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Welcome Mombos! I have found that the more I exercise and keep active, the less I have the pain from the Neulasta! I know that sounds counterproductive, but it really works. I did have one night that I couldn't sleep because of the pain.
Grancy...you look beautiful! I haven't even worn my wig...just been wearing hats and scarves....but everybody is different.
Colleen...most people open mouth before engaging brain! Sorry you have to put up with that. People keep telling me, "You don't look or act sick." I'm not sick! I had cancer!
Elaine...glad the booty thing cleared up...I wouldn't want my onc checking that out either! LOL
I'm still enjoying my spicy foods...the hotter the better! LOL
Hugs
Lisa
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Good morning Beautiful Divas.
I have taken Claritin D for the Nuelasta bone pain and it has been minimal. I can feel spasms but it has not incapacitated me. I hope that you ill give it a try. My Onc. From Ceder Sini In Beverly Hills Ca says that they do not know why it works it just does for so many people.
I go in on Monday for counts I guess. Other than a bad bout with cramping and resting for two days I am doing well. I do not have the bad taste in my mouth. I still have an appetite (Of course).
I wish I only had four treatments not 6 it just seems like forever with more chances of stuff going wrong. But I will butch up and press on.
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Colleen: Sorry you have had to put up with the rudeness of others. I'm on CMF too and I think that alot of people think if you do not lose all of your hair, you can't be on chemo. At least that is my experience with so called "well meaning" people saying things similar to what you had.
To all of my sisters on this thread, I would like to wish you a wonderful 2009. May we all have positive news about our health, positive relationships with our families and friends, happiness, and peace.
Mandy
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Lisa, I still can't believe you like spicy food, it's putting mew in sweats right now! LOL
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Spicy food is working pretty good for me still. I just made a Taco Bell run and got my standard tostada. I couldn't eat all of it. I took another Emend this morning but my appetite isn't quite there.
I haven't had too much problem from the Nuelasta shots. Just some mild pains a few days later but all I'm taking is Tylenol and that helps. Walking and exercise does seem to help.
When I was at the chemo clinic yesterday I as sitting there waiting. An older man who was very friendly started talking to me. The first thing he said was "So, how's your cancer going?". That threw me a little bit. My reply was "well, hopefully it's gone but my chemo is going just fine". I couldn't shake that comment and it's still bothering me. Another thing I get is from coworkers. On days when I'm feeling really rundown and pretty crappy but trying my best to make it through work, I'll get the question "what's wrong?" "Well, what the hell do you think is wrong???" I want to say. But I bite my tongue and just smile and say "the chemo".
Mary, I'm sorry the "dreaded hair" day is here for you. You will feel better once you buzz it off. It was tough on me for a couple of days but it gets better.
Lisa, I would like more info on the detox soak!
Well I'm going to slap my cap on and take my little dachshund to see the ducks. It's warm and sunny out today and I'm going to take advantage of it.
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Mary5454 - so sorry about the hair, hope you feel much better once you've over this hurdle...I hear sometimes hair grows back different, and I'm hoping for blonde and curly
Lainey64 - love your new closer pic, hope you enjoy your walk
can't believe the dumb things some people can and do say, my sympathy to all those who've had to endure them...hiss and boo to all the idiots who said them
Lisa, thanks for the kind words, and I too would like more info on the detox soak
Jordie - thanks for the encouragement, most of us here won't be finished for a while and I know sometimes I need to be reminded that it will eventually be over
blessings to us all, hope we all have a good weekend
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Elaine...love the new photo.....you look gorgeous! I'm thinking hair is highly over rated at this point. Getting ready to head out is so much faster. Put on my makeup, choose my hat or scarf and I'm out the door! Now I know why my daughter gave up on the wigs! LOL
Yes...I'm loving the spicy food! That and anything salty! I just talked to my sister, who is 38 and was diagnosed two weeks before me. She had 6 rounds of AC and is now getting 12 weekly rounds of Taxol. She can't taste anything salty....but sweets taste good to her. Strange!
I'll PM you ladies who wanted information on the soak. Getting ready to go see Seven Pounds with my family!
Hugs to all!
Lisa
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions for the Neulasts pain. I will try them this time. I had heard the Claritin suggestion so I am hoping it will help.
As far as the dumb comments we get from people....My friend and I have decided to adopt a new saying....You can't fix stupid!
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Hello all - I'm happy (well not happy, but you all know what I mean) to read that I'm not the only one who has "friends" who say stupid things. Sometimes I think they just don't know how to respond. I plan to take good mental notes so if I ever know anyone else in my lifetime going through something horrible like this, I will remember what NOT to say.
I am still on IV antibiotics for my breast infection. It is finally clearing up, so hopefully I'll be good to go for TX#2 on Tuesday. The nurse said I have cellulitis (how did I get it??), which freaks me out a bit b/c I'm reading that many have had to have their expanders removed since the infection did not clear up. I go to see my PS on Monday for an expander fill. They probably won't fill, but at least I can have her take a look and ease my mind, hopefully. Anyone else experience something similar with their expanders? Is it possible for the skin to reach a point where it just simply shouldn't be stretched anymore? I'm only at 260ccs, so I hope I'm not there yet.
On the hair front...still lots of stubble with bald spots. Does it ever just all come out? Is it not safe to shave it all the way down? The stubble falling out is driving me crazy. The lint roller is a great idea but there's still tons on my shirt collar, sink, pillow, etc.
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apfuentes -- After my mastectomy, my skin didn't heal properly on one side of the incision and I also developed an infection in my chest. A tissue expander had been placed at the time of the mast surgery and my oncology surgeon, plastic surgeon and I decided together to try and save the expander, so they did a second surgery to remove some skin, re-close the incision and drain fluid. Then it was on to antibiotics for 21 days, which totally cleared up the problem. The ps told me later that I had had cellulitis. Since it cleared up I've had 3 fills, 1 chemo treatment and am doing really well. It sounds like your expanders will be fine as long as the infection clears up, so keep the faith! Usually the ps fills the expander to capacity or a little more over a period of time so the skin can stretch slowly. Do you know how big your expanders are? Mine is 450ccs, but the ps might stop at 400 or even less, depending on how it looks.
I, too, have lots of stubble with some bald spots. I wear a hat or scarf most of the time, but several times a day I put a piece of newspaper in the bathroom sink and lean over it and massage my head to get the loose hairs out. I don't think the hair will all come out until it is ready, but the massages feel good! I keep reading that it is not a good idea to shave your hair all the way down or you might get ingrown hairs or an infection.
Take care. Good luck on your next treatment on Tuesday. Mine is Wednesday.
~Bonnie
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Cebula - Thanks for the warning about the wax.
I chickened out anyway. I got to thinking about the possible irritation and just couldn't do it. The Noxema I spread all over my head before showering really soothed it so I guess that will be my new routine.
Lisa - I am really enjoying spicy food too. Hot wings......mmm Italian food is delicious now, too. Salt is bitter and sugar is no taste at all.
About friends saying stupid things - I love to torment my friends when they accidentally say something like, "Well, I'll go on and get out of your hair." I tell them that was so cruel...then giggle........Or if they say something about a bad hair day. Hee hee........I say, "At least you've got hair." We just laugh about it. I love teasing them and they take it so good. If there is something I don't want to do, I look at them all pitiful and in a whiney voice I say, "But....you know I am sick, I don't want to." My best friend was talking to me about using the "I'm sick" excuse on my family today and she told me to milk if for all it was worth ......then she said, "Maybe milking it was a bad choice of words" LOL. She's the best to joke with.
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My PS said he will not fill my expander during chemo. I thought this was just the normal procedure until I read so many talking about continuing to get filled throughout chemo. Wonder why he thinks it is a problem.
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Welcome mombos to this wonderful group, I hope you will enjoy it as much as I do.
Lisa, I would love to know where to get the detox soak and at that great of a price makes it even better.
Firni, yes the Avastin is part of the study that I will be involved in. Thank you for confirming what I was told that day, I think I was so depress about the whole thing I did not have the heart to do any more investigating about it. Thank you Thank you.
Jordie, I am so greatful to hear someone else went through my situation and has finished, I can see the starting line and can not wait for this to begin, It seems that 4 AC every two weeks can not pass soon enough for me, I am not allowed to go back to work until I start the 12 weeksof T chemo, I am hoping that life will seem closer to normal then.
I am so shocked to hear what some people are saying to everyone. Everyone seems like they are handling it with such grace. I hope that I will be able to be as tactful as all of you and that no one catches me on a really bad day, I may scare myself, sometimes words just fall out of my mouth before my brain can catch them.
God bless you all.
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jajebr3 ~ just wanted to let you know there is a thread for ladies on the Avastin trial. It is under "Help Me Get Through Treatment" with the heading of Clinical Trial E5103. I'm on the trial also, and I'm pretty sure I'm getting the Avastin because I have a couple SEs that seem to be unique to Avastin. I'm sorry your chemo got delayed, I know it's really a letdown when you worked hard to get emotionally and mentally ready for it. But it was the best decision to let you heal a few more days. I'm doing A/C every 3 weeks and then 12 weeks of Taxol. Good luck to you on Monday.:-)
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Hi Mombos, My PS will do fills during chemo but he'll only do them a day or two before a treatment so he's pretty sure the WBC count will be high enough. He doesn't want to be the reason for an infection. That's why I'm only getting one fill per month now. I have two left. I'll be glad when that is done. One thing I have noticed with just getting a fill once a month, is that the muscles and tissue around the expander soften and relax. It's a rather nice change from the hard shells they become right after a fill. I know there is a point where you shouldn't stretch the skin any more. It will compromise the coverage of the expander /implant or if the skin is stretched too much, it can allow the implant to have creases and wrinkles in it. So even tho I have a goal in mind for my implants, I am relying on my PS to be the expert and draw the line if need be.
I still have a few little dark stubbles left and a bunch of really light fuzz on my head. I'm really not losing any more. I can roll it and nothing comes out. Maybe I'll stay a fuzz head. I guess that would be ok.
Alyssa I'm glad you're feeling a little better about everything.
I have spent all but about 3 hours in bed actually sleeping today. I can't wait until I feel a little better.
Oh ya, the spicy food? I've been putting Franks hot sauce on stuff just to taste something. I can taste that and peppermint.
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Sherry, Lisa's sister - No sweet taste and salt is nasty... fortunately I can barely taste it. Spicy is wonderful! I am also loving steamed vegetables.
Scalp issues - I've not used shampoo since I buzzed my hair. I still have stubble, but letting it fall out naturally.... it is not falling out too rapidly. Also have been keeping it moistened with lotion. Like everyone else, just making sure it contains no alcohol. Since the wig is itchy (and I am afraid it will irritate my scalp) I am only wearing hats.
Comment issues - Maybe I just have a thick skin, but the comments haven't bothered me yet. Most people are just trying to be caring and concerned so I just respond to their intent, not to what they say.
Nuelasta pain - Tylenol worked to keep the pain manageable. I was given percocet but it knocks me out - onc OK'd the Tylenol. Generally the pain lasts for about 3 days.
Day 12 of TC - Feeling pretty good, energy level increasing.
Mary
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Mombos- Sounds like you are on the same schedule that I'm on. I almost felt like I was reading my own post! I too had pain from Neulasta. It nearly made me cry. It took a couple days, but warm baths and Advil (600 mg) helped.I also thought I was going to be one of the lucky ones not to lose my hair and then I started to see that when I grabbed a handful of hair, 10 or more strands pulled right out. I knew this day would come and now it's hear and now I freaked. You all seem like you handled it really well. I'm trying to follow your example. I guess I'll handle it like I've handled everything else - with my head held high! Did you all just take the clippers to your hair? Did you have a guard on them? I think I'll have my son buzz me tomorrow. We go back to school after a 2 week break on Monday.
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Hi Teach, DH buzzed my head with a 1/4 inch guard on it. It looked rather nice when it was fresh clipped. I didn't want it too stubby. I wanted a little softness there when I ran my hand over my head.
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It's interesting how we all taste different food. I can't stand peppermint! Love coconut & banana though, still having my daily banana milk shake with breakfast, that will be a hard habit to lose.
Lisa, how was the movie? We almost went to see it today than ran out of time.
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