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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    Moody,

    jae-ding-a-ling has ignored some of us, so she/he says.  so she is copying and pasting the  "ignore" message to show us she is ignoring us .. however, she responds to whatever we say ...  Whatever.  Who cares?  

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited December 2008

    Moody,

    You hit on the person's name, and you'll see where it asks if you want to ignore that person.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    We're leaving dd's house in a few minutes.  Had to check on you gals and gentleMAN to see if you were behaving...you haven't disappointed me.  LOL

    Oh, yes, the dims will find it hard to believe that NOT EVERYTHING is/was G. W.'s fault.  The dims were scared to vote the first "bail out" on their own.  LOL  Don't even get me started on the dims...dimwitted Pelosi...and Barney....oh, how angry they were that they didn't get enough repubs' votes...then the stupid repubs fell for it and look where the first $700 billion..or was it $800 billion dollars...has gotten us....NO WHERE! 

    I think running a country ain't so easy.  I don't know what it's like being a community organizer or having someone run your campaign when you have oodles of money to blow because you couldn't keep your promise...well forget it..that's old news!  Yeah, I can't wait to see what 2009 brings with a new prez and all.  Just get Pelosi outta there and Barney...what idiots!  Oh, has Pelosi's book made number uno on the NY Times list.  Laughing

    It's time for me to pack my junk.  Missed you guys over Christmas.  We had a nice one..the volume was up a bit with two grandkids excited that Santa actually stopped at their house and left too many gifts.

    Now, ya'll be good!

    Shirley

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    Wow!  Nothing but a sea of pink and blue, with the exception of two of you, of course.  It's always the usual suspects.  That's really funny if you consider that it's the troll who is supposed to camp out on the thread and keep bumping it to the top for attention.  Before this, I posted about 20 hours ago. 

    What a HOOT!

    About the ignore feature one of you asked about, I mainly use it to keep these same women (the same ones every time with maybe a few no-shows so far) from private messaging me so they can still be mean while keeping their ugliest venom off the website.  Hey!  If you're going to attack someone with cancer just because their opinions differ from yours, I say you should have to do it publicly. 

    I'm guessing this is not the 'respectfully republican conversation' you're wanting to discuss, so back to politics and since you don't like to discuss how republicans won't fund breast cancer research, let's try this:

    Have any of you heard about Dan Rather suing CBS and how Bush's little problems will be in the spotlight again?  Oh, the more things change the more they stay the same, huh?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    Shirley!!  Drive safe, missed ya!!

    $$$

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    Here's an article that I posted over there ... it's bipartisan blame .. what do you think:

    The media on Monday shouted out the news that President Bush will leave office with a record deficit of $482 billion this year. The previous high came during another Bush-presidency year, 2004.

    Liberal Web sites were quick to pounce. The Huffington Post headlined its coverage of the issue "forever in your debt" with a photo underneath of Bush waving. Daily Kos labeled the deficit "Bush's little parting gift to our nation."

    There is a lot of truth in their criticism. But there's far more behind the nation's deficit than the policies of the Bush administration.

    Kos, whose real name is Markos Moulitsas Zúniga, cited the fact that Bush inherited a $128 billion surplus when he took office and pointed out that the previous record deficit of $413 billion came "during the GOP trifecta, when they had control of all branches of government."

    "If the last eight years have taught us anything, it's that Republicans have no clue how to manage our nation's finances," he wrote.

    Wait a minute: Congress has a role in this too, as Kos admitted when writing about 2004. So why doesn't the Congress that's now controlled by Democrats share some blame for this year's deficit?

    It does, of course. What have congressional Democrats done to rein in the out-of-control spending of a president who claims to be a conservative but doesn't spend like one? Very little. In light of this year's record deficit, you could argue that congressional Democrats have done nothing to stop Bush.

    And the bipartisan work of the Clinton years to balance the budget is gone.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., released a statement claiming that Bush "has mortgaged our future," but Democrats have begun to work to fix the problems. She cited bipartisan work on tax rebates, a new GI Bill and efforts to fix the housing crisis.

    She's taking the view that America can spend its way out of its financial mess, or at least trying to spin the news that way to deflect criticism. Give people their money back and they'll spend more and we'll get more tax dollars to spend. Spend more on college for our troops. Bail out homeowners so they can recover their financial health and spend more.

    There's no balance in that view of balancing the budget. Stimulating the economy to generate revenue is half of the equation. The other is saving money by controlling spending.

    The Democrats are joining Bush in failing to do that. Hence the largest deficit in the history of the United States, two years into the Democrats' rule of Congress. In two years, they've not been able to counter the out-of-control spending of the president? Give me a break. They could if they made it a priority.

    The 2001 recession and the 9/11 terrorist attacks certainly contributed to this situation, which was exacerbated significantly by a Republican president and Congress who ran amok for years. But it wasn't just Republicans who approved lots of money to invade Afghanistan, and then Iraq, in response to the attacks.

    Though there are widely differing opinions on Bush's response to the terrorist attacks, most agree that at least some war spending was justified. Rainy days happen. That's why it's so important to save for them. I realize we live in a capitalistic society, but that doesn't mean the phrase "for everything else, there's MasterCard" is a bit of wisdom. It isn't.

    A balanced budget requirement -- with an emergency, wartime exemption -- and some money in reserve are critical to the long-term health of the nation. It's time for another serious push for a balanced budget amendment. And it's time for some honesty on this issue. Americans understand that this and so many other issues are problems with Washington, not problems with Bush alone. The failure of Democrats and Republicans in Washington to admit their bipartisan failure, put down their guns and actually try to resolve these problems is why Congress is even less popular than the president.

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited December 2008
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    So what have six of you reported me for? 

    Have you heard Limbaugh's newest ditty?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    So, lets take a poll:

    Is Jaedeen (who only posts on the Rep thread, hardly ever on the Dem thread, has been a member for 2 years with only 46 posts) here to argue or is she here to be Respectfully Republican?  Seems like this Jaedeen-a-ling is only here to disrupt.  There are many more sites where this is appreciated.  

    Jaedeen = offers valid commentary

    Jaedeen = here to disrupt

    which one gals?

    $!

  • jerseymaria
    jerseymaria Member Posts: 770
    edited December 2008
    well i'll just say i got tired of hearing her gripe about "ignore" so i did.  poof....goneLaughing
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    Rocky, I don't think Jaedeen is Jaedeen, do you?  I believe Jaedeen is...well, I'll let her/him guess who I think IT is.  Or, could Jaedeen just be a figment of my imagination?  Or, OUR imagination?  The best thing to do with this imaginary interloper is to do exactly what NJ did...POOF....BE GONE...SHOO! $$$$$ $!

    BYE BYE!

                         

    Shit Storm

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    Jersey,

    I didn't gripe about 'ignore.'  I absolutely love the feature.

    And how are you today?  Okay, okay.  Since you want to know so badly, Limbaugh's new ditty makes fun of black people.  Isn't that crazy?

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited December 2008

    Shirley!!!!! Sure has been quiet around here without you!  I hope you had a GREAT Christmas and will have safe travels home.  I miss you and your colorful insights!

    Rock, I can never have a straight face when I read your posts, you are a riot!!!!

    jaedeen, I dont know who you are or what your intentions are, but I hope you can understand why people here are so "up in arms" about your posts.  If the only posts you do are here and they are all argumentative, it is only natural that you would get hostile rebuttal.  Just remember, the reply have NOTHING to do with cancer, they have to do with politics!  Two most "dangerous" topics in the world are politics and religion. 

    NOW I can assure you, if you EVER were having a cancer issue and reached out for support, everyone of these women would be there in a heart beat, in fact I bet they would be the first in line to offer you support.

    The two times I ever posted over on the democrat thread I was "blasted" out of there too as it was taken as being argumentative since I didnt agree with them.  So I dont post there any more, nor do I bother reading over there...............just a thought.........

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    Hey, Moody.  I'm home!  And it feels good!

    I watch Chris Wallace's interview with Laura Bush today.  Again, she's a class act!  I'll miss her.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    If the only posts you do are here and they are all argumentative, it is only natural that you would get hostile rebuttal.   

    I have posted in the democrat thread, too.  The posts were deleted.  They kept being deleted until I put certain people on ignore and hinted that there is an abuse of the system using private messaging to gang up in pack mentality and hit the report button on people whose only crime is that their opinion differed from theirs.  $$$$$????

    Just remember, the reply have NOTHING to do with cancer, they have to do with politics! 

    This is a political thread.  I did not initiate it.  Board administrators have allowed it to remain so I'm guessing that the difference of opinion is accepted here, because like you said, the subject of politics is quite volatile.

    NOW I can assure you, if you EVER were having a cancer issue and reached out for support, everyone of these women would be there in a heart beat, in fact I bet they would be the first in line to offer you support.

    Wrong.  My attempt was to discuss breast cancer research funding blocked by republicans.  My posts were reported and deleted.  That's how this whole thing started.  Apparently, I'm supposed to NOT discuss the politics of breast cancer on this board if it makes republicans feel bad. 

    The two times I ever posted over on the democrat thread I was "blasted" out of there too as it was taken as being argumentative since I didnt agree with them.  So I dont post there any more, nor do I bother reading over there...............just a thought.........

    If political threads are allowed on this site, they're going to be argumentative.  And, like you said, it's the subject that's volatile.  Isn't it funny how a republican can block the research, but on this site, it is me who is the baddy? 

    The idea that there are forums I should not post on, and forums I should not read sounds kind of silly to me.  I'm not exactly sure what physical harm could possibly come from reading difference of opinion, yet I can think of all kinds of harm done by lack of funding for breast cancer research.

    Sometimes you just get what you give.  Apparently there has been a problem with spammers and trolls around here so anyone who is new or doesn't post often is greeted with suspicion and deletion.  I'm not so sure it's a good idea to do breast cancer survivors that way, so maybe a few of you could lighten up and stop acting like board police around here.

    I have attacked no one. 

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited December 2008

    Could you be specific about what wasnt backed by repubs for breast cancer research as I would like to research for myself to see what the deal was.  If you are referring to the part where dems wanted ALL the $$ to go to ONE research lab, then that has already been debated on this thread with many of us here on this thread AGREEING that all the $$$ should NOT all go to one research organization as it would be better suited spread around so that all types of breast cancer are researched.  It is so evident by being on this thread there are MANY diff types of breast cancer.  I wouldnt want all the $$ to go to just ILC research and ILC cancer survivors wouldnt want all the $$ going to IDC only, as well as those who are IBC or HER2/Neu +++.  So if there is a different time repubs have "blocked" breast cancer research other than this, please "enlighten" me so that I can check into it.

    I can assure your that if there was a block, it was warranted, which I must believe is true, otherwise you would had been VERY SPECIFIC in your post here, just so you could have a "zing" to your "punch".

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    No.  I'm referring to the part where one republican blocked even a debate of the bill on the floor.  Not once, but twice.  As we all know, no amendments can be offered if the bill is not debated, so the stuff about where the money went is really just a smoke screen.

    The bill was not heard.  That dog don't hunt. 

    It was not heard, not because of where the funding was to go, or how it was proportioned, or whether or not it was a good bill.  It was blocked because it was designed to research environmental factors as they relate to the incidence of breast cancer.  The republican blocking the bill had too may special agribusiness interests that came first.

    And the reason I know that the reasons given by Doc Coburn were pure bs is because he never introduced his own bill.  Not the first time.  Not the second time.  Fact is that he didn't want a bill at all.

    That debate is what caused my posts to be deleted - that the abuse of the report feature of this site's software.

    And I think that it's just as outrageous that it happened on the BREAST CANCER SITE as you republicans think it's outrageous that you have to hear about it.

    The patronizing tone of your last sentence tells me that you really don't want to hear about it, either.  Before I put you on ignore, I will tell you that I have already posted the specifics.  Simply clicking on my name will call them up.

  • Paulette531
    Paulette531 Member Posts: 738
    edited December 2008

    If it was ONE Republican, why do you insist on berating ALL Republicans for blocking BC research? And if you continue putting us all on ignore, pretty soon there will be no reason for you to post on this thread!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    Moody, just ignore her ... her gripe was answered, read back a few pages.  I forget who had the answer but it has to do with the Senator wanting funding for all cancer research not just breast cancer.  So jae-ding-a-ling is saying "republicans want her to die" ...  

    I've got her on ignore now so whatever baiting she is doing I won't be biting.

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited December 2008

    What is ironic is that every republican gets a label because of the actions of one.  That is like saying all the people in the south are racist because one person makes a racial slur, or that all women support abortion because one woman gets an abortion.

    Jaedeen if you put me on ignore, that is your business and I really dont care as I did not even know what that was and assume I will be unaware of it unless you post that you have done it, and I still wont care as I would prefer to be ignored by people that dont want to read what I have to say.........I would actually like to have a few people in my family put me on ignore.....LOL

    If just one republican has enough power to stop a bill from being debated then all of congress needs revamping, not just republicans.  I do remember this "argument" a few pages back and I believe that it was researched and answered. 

    As far as "you republicans think it's outrageous that you have to hear about it."  I do want to hear about things in our government, good and bad, but I want ALL the details, not just bits and pieces that distort the truth.  I am intelligent enough to know that there is ALWAYS more to the story than what someone is telling me- as in your case here---BUT if I were to find out that it was as you say, then I would vote that "repub" OUT at the next election.

    I believe this is the reason we have elections in this country, to vote in people we believe have our best interest at heart, & vote out people that prove not to have our best interest at heart.  It is called a democracy and I exercise my right to vote at every election. 

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited December 2008

    Looks like this bill was passed and signed into law 10/8/08:

    H.R.1157
    Title: To amend the Public Health Service Act to authorize the Director of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences to make grants for the development and operation of research centers regarding environmental factors that may be related to the etiology of breast cancer.
    Sponsor: Rep Lowey, Nita M. [NY-18] (introduced 2/16/2007)      Cosponsors (287)
    Related Bills: S.579
    Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 110-354 [GPO: Text, PDF]
    House Reports: 110-889

    2/16/2007Introduced in House
    9/25/2008Reported (Amended) by the Committee on Energy and Commerce. H. Rept. 110-889.
    9/25/2008Passed/agreed to in House: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Agreed to by voice vote.
    9/27/2008Passed/agreed to in Senate: Passed Senate without amendment by Unanimous Consent.
    9/27/2008Cleared for White House.
    9/30/2008Presented to President.
    10/8/2008Signed by President.
    10/8/2008Became Public Law No: 110-354 [Text, PDF]
  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited December 2008

    Try this again.  Looks like this law was passed 10/8/08:

    H.R.1157
    Title: To amend the Public Health Service Act to authorize the Director of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences to make grants for the development and operation of research centers regarding environmental factors that may be related to the etiology of breast cancer.
    Sponsor: Rep Lowey, Nita M. [NY-18] (introduced 2/16/2007)      Cosponsors (287)
    Related Bills: S.579
    Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 110-354 [GPO: Text, PDF]
    House Reports: 110-889

    2/16/2007 Introduced in House
    9/25/2008 Reported (Amended) by the Committee on Energy and Commerce. H. Rept. 110-889.
    9/25/2008 Passed/agreed to in House: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Agreed to by voice vote.
    9/27/2008 Passed/agreed to in Senate: Passed Senate without amendment by Unanimous Consent.
    9/27/2008 Cleared for White House.
    9/30/2008 Presented to President.
    10/8/2008 Signed by President.
    10/8/2008 Became Public Law No: 110-354 [Text, PDF]

  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited December 2008

    Breast cancer as is most cancers are hereditary............very very few cancers can be linked to environment........there is a few that can be linked to say asbestos or radiation but all in all most cancers have a genetic component.........it is a waste of our money to go searching for environment reasons for breast cancer and the Senator knows it......after all he is a cancer survivor himself.......people want to think that they can control if they get cancer or not..........the environment is an easy way for people to think they have some control.........cancer has been around since before man had language...........our dna is far from perfect............it's just the way it is........why one family member will developed cancer and another will not who knows.........it is what it is plain and simple..........Shokk

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited December 2008
    Hey Shokk!!!! Where have you been?  I've missed you!
  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited December 2008

    Hey Moody just Christmas and family stuff.........I hope you had a wonderful day with your beautiful family..........mine has been good and pretty restful..........but tomorrow will be back to normal at least for a few days until New Years..........Shokk

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited December 2008

    They already are studying why one gets it and the other doesn't in families.  It's the sister study.  This is what I've always wanted to know.  I've wanted them to test people who don't get it.  What's in their blood?  Plus, they are testing their personal environment.  Taking dust samples, hair and nail samples besides doing the normal tests.  From what my sister tells me they are very thorough. 

    But Jaedeen was told all this before and she ignores it.  Keeps bringing up the same crap over and over again.  No one here had her posts deleted, and probably no one spoke to her privately unless she wrote to them first.  A liar has hit our board.  A pathetic one too who can't read with comprehension because we keep explaining things to her and back she comes again talking about the same thing.  So enough. 

  • DD_
    DD_ Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2008

    What irritates me, are people who "claim" to be "in the know" and speak without being thoroughly informed.  The difference between us and <---------them, is at least we research thoroughly our topics before carrying on conversations about them. 

    The problem with jaedeen is she was uneducated about her original "enlightenment" regarding the Breast Cancer and Environmental Research Act, and then didn't know what to do when she realized just what a true idiot she was.  And people who are publicly embarrassed, lash out at everyone else, which merely emphasizes their stupidity.  Then they tend to go "postal".  I believe the medical term would be "Schizotypal Personality Disorder"

    Schizotypal Personality Disorder is marked by a lack of, and reduced capacity for, social and interpersonal relationships. The person with this disorder also has cognitive distortions and eccentricities of behavior. They often have magical thinking (if I think this, I can make that happen), paranoia, and other seemingly strange thoughts. They may talk to themselves, dress inappropriately, and are very sensitive to criticism.

    I am sure they have medication for this type of mental illness.............

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    Actually shokk, hate to say this but you are wrong when it comes to breast cancer.  Only about 30% (I think it's less than that even) are hereditary cases.  More than 70% of bc is not inherited!!  That's why this is such a hard disease to figure out.  That's why it's important for EVERY woman to do her bse's and mammos.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    DD, I don't think she is uneducated or ignorant --- I think she is putting up blinders, ignoring facts in order to twist things and wrile things up.  She only posts here because her posts got deleted on the other other side.  I wish she'd go away, troll that she is.

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited December 2008

    Schokk, I need to respectfully disagree. There was no bc in my family, ever. However, I lived with a lot of smokers and I think that this environment led to my bc, since I never smoked. I do have some lung cancer, my mother included, in my family. But she smoked 2 packs a day since she was 13, so it is no wonder she got it. All cancers are caused by a breakdown of an overloaded immune system. Our bodies are constantly subjected to free radicals, which will cause cancerous gene mutations when our amazing immune system is unable to keep up with the demand to exorcise these little devils. When we do not nourish our cells with proper nutrtion to keep them strong, exercise to keep everything moving well, and when we are overstressed, our bodies become vulnerable to attack. There is no one cause of cancer. It is a cumulative build up of toxins that cause genes to mutate and turn good cells into bad. It is true that some people are born with a genetic make up that gives them the ability to fight off disease better than others. No one can have a guarantee that they will never get cancer, just as no one should accept that they will if they have a genetic link. We can do a lot to keep it at bay by arming ourselves with a healthy body, which we can do with a good diet, plenty of exercise, and learning how to cope with stress.

    Now lets start destressing by tuning out those who would like us to get upset by their presence. I have made it a point to not let people in my life get to me anymore. This includes the jerks I know and those I have never met. The jaedeens of this world are just not worth thinking about. It is much better for our health. I hope all of you will take heart.

    1SB!

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