CANCER CURE FOUND BUT.... FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN THE VIDEO

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  • lisa39
    lisa39 Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2008

    There are a lot of countries in the world where cancer treatment is free.  I live in Canada, which is one of them (lucky for me).  All of the European countries, some in Asia, Australia, NZ, and even Cuba have free health care. So I don't think it's really valid to say a cure is being hidden from us because it would cost big pharma too much money.  Great research is going on in the U-S and the other places I mentioned above.  Nobody is hiding the truth from us to keep us reaching for our wallets - EXCEPT fakes and charlatans selling cottage cheese and coffee enemas as a so-called cure.  Also -- somebody said they think the stress of daily life and the environment and modern food is what causes cancer.  I disagree.  Archeologists have unearthed bodies from ancient Egyptian times and done forensic testing on them.  They've found that people died of cancer way back then. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Accusing the Pharmaceutical industry of being evil or run by the mafia is just plain silly but par for the course for an industry that needs to con the public into thinking their alternative medicines superior to peer reviewed treatments that actually work . . . sometimes.  Since alternative medicines have never been proven effective, how else do alternative medicine proponents con the public into buying their treatments?   Of note there are quite a number of smaller biotech companies who are pinning their futures on their drugs to cure various kinds of cancer.  There is hope for all of us. 

    Local biotechs tackling cure for cancer found in Kennedy

    By Ryan McBride

    Other matches for "biotech companies working on cures for cancer":

    Pharma vets boost biotech marketing [June 24, 2002]

    Incubator of the Year: Panacea gives license in its quest for cures [June 24, 2002]

    U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy faces a battle with brain cancer that depends heavily on tapping the latest advances in medicine - and he may have to look no further than his home state of Massachusetts for new treatments.

    Depending on a variety of factor (not the least of which is diagnosing the exact type of brain tumor Kennedy has) the 76-year-old senator could benefit from experimental drugs at Bay State biotech firms such as TransMolecular Inc. and Avant Immunotherapeutics Inc.

    TransMolecular CEO Michael Egan said there are many types of brain tumors, and it's too early to tell whether Kennedy's condition could be treated with the firm's lead drug, called TM-601. "There are different grades of (brain) tumors," Egan said, "and within the grades there are different types."

    Kennedy was diagnosed with malignant glioma this week after he suffered a seizure and was taken to Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. But Egan said it may take days to complete the lab work required to diagnose the exact type of tumor Kennedy has.

    TransMolecular's lead drug is nearing the start of Phase 3 clinical trials to treat recurrent forms of malignant glioma, meaning patients would only take the drug after receiving treatments such as surgery to remove the cancer, chemotherapy and radiation, Egan said. The drug is a synthetic peptide - modeled after materials found in scorpion venom - that carries a radioactive molecule to tumor cells.

    Egan said his Cambridge-based biotech company is in talks with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration about the design of a Phase 3 clinical trial for the treatment, and he expects the study to begin in the second half of 2008.

    At Avant (Nasdaq: AVAN), based in Needham, executives have recently licensed an experimental vaccine for brain tumors and other cancers to drug giant Pfizer Inc. Avant acquired the vaccine, called CDX-110, through its merger early this year with New Jersey-based Celldex Therapeutics. A company spokesman said that development of CDX-110, which is in Phase 2 clinical trials for a type of brain cancer called glioblastoma multiforme, will be handled by Pfizer, headquartered in New York. Avant executives were not available for comment before the deadline for this story to discuss the potential of the vaccine to treat Kennedy.

    TransMolecular said that about 20,000 Americans were diagnosed with brain tumors or other related neurological cancers in 2007. For the 9,000 U.S. patients diagnosed with malignant gliomas every year, the average survival is 18 months, Egan said, and some live as long as four years or more. However, there are no cures for the tumors.

  • lauren_wyp
    lauren_wyp Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2008

    hi all

    I think that we are missing the point that Big pharmaceutical corporations are running busineses and no doubt they have poured tons of money into research but the real point here is that will they invest in the research if they know that the drugs or processes cannot be patented?

     That is why I think we should really watch the video posted in the link which simply tells you that they are having difficulty in funding thier testing even though they are having very positive results.  

    I do not blame them for being like this as they have share holders or stakeholders they have to report to, i was just pointing out the facts.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Lauren:  this is what you posted:

    I have a friend who was diagnosed with stage 4 but did not go for Chemo.. instead went for a organic food programme ( with supervision of course) and was cured. The doctor couldn't believe it at first.

     If that's a fact, than the world is flat and the moon made of green cheese. 

    •  
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008
    Blaest...
     
    I was a supporter of yours over on the Respectful Obama site, but if you are categorizing DCA as just another "alternative cure"--the topic of this thread-- over here you are DEAD WRONG!!!  
     
    I've been following the research on DCA for a couple of years now, and the theory and results on how it works are scientifically sound.  Let me warn you that I am an NSF scholar and  PhD candidate at one of the leading universities in the country and I have a thorough knowledge of the scientific method and what constitutes a scientific hypothesis.  I have read about many cures and in my opinion, DCA is the best thing out there because it targets cancer at its source...a flaw in the DNA that allows a cancer cell to act like a rogue cell.  A cancer cell  "outsmarts" its "altruistic" programming; in order for the human body to function individual cells have act like obedient members of a larger community. DCA heals cancer cells and forces them to act more altruistially and die.  This is called apotheosis.
     
    DCA cures cancer by HEALING cells rather killing them...and it is the first glimmer of light at what seems like an endless tunnel of fog....it is a drug that people can take that is not harmful to good cells.  It may not be the only drug that can do this, but at least is a new drug in a family of drugs that might take us out of the dark ages of cancer medicine.
     
    It is very exciting to see that DCA is finally getting more attention, despite the interests of the U.S. drug companies.
     
    I would also like to mention that I am a BC survivor and I didn't like chemo.  After I read about the side effects I was terrified.  I took chemo because my cancer was very aggressive, but I didn't feel good about it.  It left me at high risk for bladder cancer and with brain damage that has crippled certain abilities that I had before chemo. But I am happy to be alive and have enough faculties left to be here to argue with you!
     
    Linora 
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Linora, obviously I know nothing about DCA itself and given some of the testimonials by the alternative crowd I am very skeptical of anything and everything they say.  That being said, if you are excited about the prospects of DCA then there must be good reason for your excitement and I am surely not going to take you on in the scientific arena.  Under this thread a proponent mentions the "beck cure" which I looked up on its website and it is surely hocus-pocus.  But if there is SOUND SCIENCE behind DCA, that's great.  Sometimes the cure for diseases come directly out of Universities and are then possibly perfected by the Pharmas.  Obviously we are not there but hopefully it is only a matter of time.  What I totally reject is when Bob from Bob's bait and tackel shop comes up with a cure for cancer and then tries to sell it.

  • lauren_wyp
    lauren_wyp Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2008

    Hi Linora

    On behalf of all I thank you for this enlightenment as I for one sincerely hope that a cure from the western scientific community is found to banish this dreaded disease forever... a number of my close realtives has leave me due to this disease.

    I still believe in alternative medicine as a friend was cured from alternative treatment but what was written in the post above was also correct to say that there are a lot of alternative cures that are just out to take advantage of the poor people who are willing pay anything. It is also very difficult to distinguish between the true cures and the fakes.

    Researched has shown that MOST cancers are not genetic in nature but due to the environment we live in, the stress of our our modern daily lives and aslo the food we take. According to medical books in ancient china, there was no mention of cancer or cancer like disease and its because it does not exist or exist in very small proportion.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong as my knowlege is very limited and to bring it out for discussion is to bring knowledge to all.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Lauren,
     
    I think you are basically right about cancer being a reaction to environmental pollutants, but one of the possible reasons that cancer wasn't reported historically is that it wasn't properly diagnosed.   Tumors usually remain hidden in side the body.
     
    Another very likely reason for a higher rate of cancer now is that people are living to older ages, and as people live for  longer period of time, there is a greater likelihood for mistakes to occur in the process of cellular reproduction.  Cancer is a disease of the cellular DNA, the code that tells cells how to behave.  
     
     I do not think alternative medicine should be a substitute but an adjunct to traditional treatment  But I do think the decision whether or not to undergo chemotherapy should be a personal one. 
     
    Linora 
     
     
  • lauren_wyp
    lauren_wyp Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2008

    Hi Linora

    Thanks for sharing what you know.

    We just have to hope that the DCA testing really takes off with and pass flying colors so as the suffering of many people will be extinguished especially for the poor who really cannot afford any medication as they too have a right to live. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Lauren, I couldn't have said it better myself.

    Grace, thanx so much for starting this thead.  I hope we can keep it going and I hope that in our lifetime we will see more humane, affordable cancer treatments that finally move us out of this medieval era.

    Alternative treatments can dramatically help if they boost overall health and promote a sense a well being, for example, like eating a well balanced diet filled with fresh fruits and vegetables and high quality sources of protein.  Exercise is very important too...I've been a runner for the past two decades.   Just this morning I saw an article in the news that says that sleep and exercise help fight cancer.  How this works is not known, but scientists suspect that it boosts the auto immune system.

    Exercise, sleep help women fight cancer

    Posted: Nov. 21 12:42 p.m.
    Updated: Nov. 21 6:21 p.m.


    Linora

  • lauren_wyp
    lauren_wyp Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2008

    Linora 

    I fully agree with you.

    I once went to a chinese physician and was told that the MOST important thing of all to cure disease like high blood, dibetes and what so not, is exercise and if you do it everyday it will eventually  go away (plus proper organic nutritious food of course).

    I believe that it also works for cancer as when you exercise the body will rid itself of toxins and also boost the immune system.

    For the benifit of all, can you share with us your experience on how you feel mixing balance diet and also exercise? 

     If anybody have anythying to share please do, especially if you know about the DCA research. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Lauren

    Click on the purple link in my previous post to get to the article on how sleep and exercise help your body fight cancer.

    This AM, saw another article that says that eating lots of red meat and processed meats (deli loafs, etc.), or diets high in saturated fats can lead to cancers of the intestines.  Click here.

    Linora

  • lauren_wyp
    lauren_wyp Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2008

    HI Linoara

    Thanks. 

  • lauren_wyp
    lauren_wyp Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2008

    Hi all

    Anybody found any news about DCA? 

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited November 2008

    There are a lot of articles out there about DCA.  Just google ''breast cancer, DCA" to find them.  To sum them up, it seems like another questionable 'cure'.

  • graceths
    graceths Member Posts: 35
    edited November 2008

    Hi Lauren , every one 

    Found an article.

    DCA: Cancer Breakthrough Or Urban Legend?
    Posted on 2/3/2007 11:52 AM by Dr. Len Lichtenfeld

    There is the medical equivalent of a tsunami wave building out there, only we don’t know where this one is going to land.

     It is called DCA, and we are suddenly receiving requests for information about something few if any of us had heard about as a cancer treatment until this past week.

    I suspect some of this rapid explosion is fueled in part by the internet and the rapid exchange of information, and some by advocates who believe in the long-held conspiracy theory that someone is holding back the single simple answer to curing all cancer. 

    We even received an urgent plea from one media outlet on Thursday asking us to help them out with understanding DCA, since their website was being inundated with internet traffic that was overwhelming their servers.

    Before we replace rational discourse with irrational exuberance, it is my personal opinion that a bit of caution is in order. The basic reason for my conservative view is “been there, done that.”
     
    I don’t know the details of how this phenomenon got started, but I can take a stab at an answer.
     
    Do a general internet search on dichloroacetate (the actual name of this material) and cancer doesn’t rise to the top of the list before very recently.

    That said, an article appeared in the January 2007 issue of Cancer Cell, written by a researcher at the University of Alberta in Canada.

    I do not know the researcher, but the institution is one that is a recognized, established University.

     
    The basic gist of the research report is that cancer cells rely on certain energy pathways that are different from normal cells, similar to the situation that occurs in what we medically call lactic acidosis.

    Lactic acidosis in very simple terms occurs in our bodies when we are very ill or may be suddenly severely traumatized. Our cells basically become starved for energy, and switch into other energy pathways that rely less on oxygen, resulting in the production of lactic acid.

    As a result, when there are large quantities of lactic acid circulating in our system, it can contribute to a significantly increased risk of death.

     What the Alberta researcher hypothesized was that cancer cells also work through similar metabolic pathways. If you could revert them to normal, then the cells would switch back to the typical energy pathway, and either die or convert to normal cells.

     Where DCA or dichloroacetic acid fits into this theory is that it can apparently convert the bad metabolic pathways into good ones.

     As noted in the conclusions of the study, it can do so while selectively affecting cancer cells and not harming normal cells.

     According to the authors of the report, DCA is non-toxic and is currently used in children who have a rare genetic condition where they produce too much lactic acid.

     They go on to point out that DCA is used in these children to reverse the condition with minimal or no side effects.

     Let me assure you that this is a gross oversimplification of a very complicated discussion. I personally never was a standout in biochemistry, and that was over 35 years ago. Trying to explain this study in plain words is not an easy task.

     But the concepts are basic, and the theories of differential cancer cell metabolism have been around for a long time. The paper itself cites something called the Warburg theory espoused in the 1930s as an example of support for this principle.

     In fact, for years we have been studying the possibility that improving the microenvironment surrounding cancer cells by increasing oxygen levels of tumors through various means will lead to improved responses to treatments. Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is one example of such previous efforts.

     (In contrast, the targeted therapy Avastin is based on the principle that by preventing blood vessel growth in cancers, you will starve the tumors blood supply, oxygen levels will go down and the cancer will slow or stop its growth.)

     To demonstrate the concept, the authors in the current report did a number of experiments that came to the conclusion that DCA was in fact effective in meeting the goals of their expectations.

     In these experiments in the laboratory, they found that DCA could in fact reverse the abnormal metabolism in several laboratory-based cancer cell lines. DCA also reversed the “immortality” of these test tube cancer cells and induced a process of cell death called apoptosis.

     Finally, they injected some of these laboratory-based cancer cell lines into rats who were genetically engineered to have no basic immune system, and found that if they put DCA into their drinking water, the tumor growth was significantly slower than in a comparison group of rats that did not receive DCA.

     In one group of rats where DCA was given after the injected tumors had been allowed to grow, the tumors immediately (in the authors’ word) decreased in size.

     So far, so good.

     But here is where things begin to get a bit dicey.

     These are quotes taken directly from the article. The first is from a summary printed at the bottom of the first page of the report:

     “The ease of delivery, selectivity, and effectiveness make DCA an attractive candidate for proapoptotic cancer therapy which can be rapidly translated into phase II–III clinical trials.”

     In the discussion section of the paper, the authors conclude with the following statement:


    Our work identifies the mitochondria-NFAT-Kv channel axis and PDK as critical components of the metabolicelectrical remodeling that characterizes many human cancers and offers a tantalizing suggestion that DCA may have selective anticancer efficacy in patients. The very recent report of the first randomized long-term clinical trial of oral DCA in children with congenital lactic acidosis (at doses similar to those used in our in vivo experiments) showing that DCA was well tolerated and safe (Stacpoole et al., 2006) suggests a potentially easy translation of our work to clinical oncology.” (Emphasis mine)

     
    In other words, the authors are saying that in their opinion these experiments in the lab and rats suggests that DCA may be a simple, effective treatment for cancer and we should move forward with clinical trials based solely on their theory and their results.

    I am not being critical of the authors’ comments, except for describing this as a “potentially easy” process. Nothing in translation from the bench to the bedside is easy.

    This is not the first time such suggestive statements have been made. In fact, these types of comments are not unusual in papers of this type.

    What I am critical of is the lack of discrimination in judgment of other folks—not the researchers--who have picked up on these lines and rapidly circulated the thought that we have a cure for cancer at hand, and that we must stop doing everything else and get this simple, safe and effective treatment to cancer patients immediately.


    Even my own blog was “hit” with such a suggestion this past week.

    Well, as they say, if I had a nickel for every time I have heard such a proposition based on this type of evidence, I would be a rich man.


    Please try to understand that I am NOT saying this is a theory that won’t work. It may, and if it does prove valuable, that would be terrific.

     
    It is just that I have been around a while and have seen this type of hope and hype just a few times too many.

    I have seen cancer patients hopes lifted and dashed so often that I can’t help but be cautious and conservative in my thinking.

    Let’s take a look at what we can say.

    First, I did a literature search on PubMed looking for articles with the terms dichloroacetic acid and cancer.

    Although I didn’t have access to all of the articles, one underlying theme stood out: DCA is an organic chemical that causes liver cancer in laboratory mice when put in their drinking water.

    It is NOT non-toxic. It is a byproduct of another chemical called trichloroethylene (TCE), which has been a source of concern as a cancer causing agent for some time. (A simple Google search will give you over 8 million hits on this topic.)

     
    Here is what the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry has to say about TCE:

    “HIGHLIGHTS: Trichloroethylene is a colorless liquid which is used as a solvent for cleaning metal parts. Drinking or breathing high levels of trichloroethylene may cause nervous system effects, liver and lung damage, abnormal heartbeat, coma, and possibly death. Trichloroethylene has been found in at least 852 of the 1,430 National Priorities List sites identified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).”

    So before you start going out and adding DCA to your drinking water to prevent cancer, a degree of caution would be very prudent at this point.

    Another article that came up in the Google search was a 1983 article from the New England Journal of Medicine.

    Here is a quote from that article:
    “Despite improvement in their lactic acidemia, all patients but one died of their underlying disease. No serious drug-related toxicity occurred. We conclude that dichloroacetate is a safe and effective adjunct in the treatment of patients with lactic acidosis, although the ultimate prognosis may depend on the underlying disease.”

    In other words, the treatment was a success, but the patient died.

    But experience is the best teacher in my opinion.

    For example, even in the short time this blog has been in “production” I have written articles on other relatively non-toxic substances and their potential role in either preventing or reducing the burden of cancer.

    New discoveries about vitamin C and vitamin D come to mind.


    We haven’t seen the hue and cry about getting these vitamins into cancer clinical trials, yet based on evidence similar to the DCA paper, there is equal reason to believe that either or both of these vitamins may have a role in cancer prevention and/or cancer treatment.

    Still vivid in my mind was something that happened in the early 1970s when I was training to be an oncologist at the National Cancer Institute.

    To the best of my recollection, a research report suggested that a particular material was very effective in treating acute leukemia. Once again, mice that had a transplanted leukemia were given this drug, and the leukemia miraculously disappeared.

    To demonstrate that this new drug was so non-toxic that the researcher went on to one of the major national morning television shows and injected himself with the drug right there on camera as he touted his new discovery.

    The problem was that there were only very, very small amounts of the drug available.

    Research centers around the world rapidly picked up the beat, and vied to get their hands on some of this new miracle powder.

    Cancer research centers were receiving phone calls with incredible offers of financial support from wealthy patients with leukemia, if they could just get these folks this wonder drug.

    The only thing we found out was that it didn’t work at all.

    Of course, there are stories on the other side of the aisle so to speak, where simple discoveries in fact have proven to have great benefit in the treatment of some cancers, such as the treatment of promyelocytic leukemia.

    But the overwhelming number of promising laboratory experiments have not ended up as effective cancer treatments when they move from the bench to the bedside, if they are even able to get to the bedside in the first place.

    It is indeed a long, difficult road that must be traveled to demonstrate that an exciting new idea actually works in the treatment of cancer.

    So, pardon me if I am a skeptic. As Jessica Rabbit said, “I am just drawn that way.”

    But I am also an optimist, as I have said many times in these pages. I do believe that there are exciting new developments in cancer treatment emerging from laboratories around the world. Maybe DCA is one of them.

    Right now, we simply do not know what is going to occur as DCA moves through the research pipeline, first with laboratory confirmation and critical analysis of these findings and then on to the clinic if others review this report and agree that DCA is a promising approach that deserves a clinical trial in the treatment of cancer.

    It’s just that I believe in patience, prudence and caution because my experience has taught me that those are the best guidelines to follow in assessing reports such as the one in Cancer Cell.


    It is way too soon to know whether this is a cancer treatment breakthrough or an urban legend or something in between.

    I am acutely aware that there are cancer patients out there who are fighting every day for their survival, and are hoping that there is one last chance to get a treatment that may prolong or save their lives.

    For some of you out there to inappropriately make them feel that DCA is the answer to their prayers based on this single early stage report in a medical research journal is, in my opinion, not acceptable at best and despicable at worst.

     

  • lauren_wyp
    lauren_wyp Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2008

    Hi

    Hmmmm.. Very Informative but they way he did the research on DCA is quiet appalling.

     Usually doctors will comments on scientific facts and not by internet resaerch alone...  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Grace...thanx for posting this article.  I have been aware that there has been criticism of the research going on Canada,  but I am not sure we can accept everything this Len Lichtenfeld says who by his own admission is not a "standout in biochemistry".  First of all, ask youselves...who does this man work for and why did he publish this article? [The article is nearly two years old.]  The pharmaceutical companies in the U.S. have a patent interest in cancer research...they fund it and they profit from the resulting drugs that are formulated.  They do not profit from old, cheap drugs already in existence, like DCA.

    I am not a biochemist so I am not familiar with all the facets of his argument, but DCA research is receiving funding by the Canadian gov't at the University of Alberta, so it has to have passed some sort of peer review.  As far as I know, research is ongoing, and DCA is not being recommended for treatment on human patients until it is complete.

    It does target the problem of making cancer cells behave properly by healing them, making them die...this is called "apotheosis."  The direction of research seems to be a good one, because of the very concept of healing cancer cells and not hurting good cells.  DCA in its present form may be not be the answer, but it may be on the a point along the way to a better answer.

    We cannot accept everything we read on the web at face value; we need a healthy skepticism.  But let's ask questions and keep our minds open.

    Linora

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited November 2008

    Just a wee correction -- cell death is "apoptosis".

    University of Alberta scientists have received several grants for this research, all of which have been peer-reviewed.  So, it would seem other researchers believed there was some merit in DCA.  However, we won't know for several years, I'm afraid......

  • lauren_wyp
    lauren_wyp Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2008

    Hi all

    Yes we will only know after all the test are done... pity the people who need it.

    Try the proven alternative ways if you have no choice.

     But a word of caution on those who want to try it the DIY way, plaese see this link:-

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/apr/28/health.cancer 

  • graceths
    graceths Member Posts: 35
    edited December 2008
  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited December 2008

    Huge debate going on here. I don't think we have all the information. We have what the medical establishment wants us to know. I believe there are those, on both sides, who are heartless, and take advantage of those afflicted with cancer.

    However, I do believe that many of our doctors, scientist & researchers are earnestly, and genuinely working for a conventional cure. I don't think that most doctors,in traditional medicine, are intentionally trying to wrong us. There are doctors who prescribe both, conventional and alternative. I have had two breast surgeons and both are on a mission to erradicate cancer. They are genuinely concerned about their patients.

    The problem is with the big people who tell us what is protocol.

     I also believe there are possibly alternative medicine that can cure cancer. I reluctant to try any cures without surgery first. If the apple has a rotten spot, cut it out. What ever you choose, be fully convinced what you are doing is right.

      

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited December 2008

    I have not seen the video - but I have trouble believing in my heart that it is pharmaceutical companies and others that are hiding that a cure if there for cancer.  They are making money on the AI's.  Think about all the other disease that have just about being eradicated, or very uncommon due to vaccines over the years at least in western sociey - polio, whopping cough to name a couple that come to mind.  I do believe that western and eastern medicine can be used together.

  • hollyann
    hollyann Member Posts: 2,992
    edited December 2008

    Lauren, I would love to meet your friend who was cured of Stage 4 breast cancer by organic food alone.......She is truly a miracle if it is true.......Can you give us her name and address so we can write to her?......

    Priz......Sorry to hear about your mom......It is really hard to lose a parent to this nasty disease called cancer.............Hugs.......Lucy 

  • graceths
    graceths Member Posts: 35
    edited February 2010

    This Topic came up again in another post. I just thought that it would be helpful to those who have not seen it.

  • graceths
    graceths Member Posts: 35
    edited October 2009

    Hi, any new news on DCA or any new thoughts on this?

  • liz135
    liz135 Member Posts: 4
    edited October 2009

    I came across this video a wonderful and miraculous treatment without side effects.

    You can see it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2dx0NKP8y8

    The second video , a continuation of the first also talks of good response in breast cancer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHlCvBQj_LE

     A published scientific study can be seen here . http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19368145?ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

    I know someone who could not tolerate chemotherapy, could toreate the chemo better with aloe vera juice and is now disease free.

  • MsBliss
    MsBliss Member Posts: 536
    edited October 2009

    For those of you who doubt that there is a profit motivation behind the cancer treatment industry, I offer you the most glaring proof of such:

    VITAMIN D.

    The American Cancer Society, the NIH, the Department of Agriculture, have known for at least TEN YEARS, that low levels of Vitamin D are contributing to the cancer phenomenon.

    YET THEY REFUSE TO PUBLICIZE THIS.  The RDA is still 400 IU--when it should be at least 2000 IU. Women with breast cancer should have their levels tested, yet it is still not being done.  Why?  If supplemental Vitamin D reduces occurence or prevents recurrence, then what will happen to the infrastructure of breast cancer as a business?  It is similar to when we learned horse estrogens (premarin, prempro) were being peddled as good medicine, yet they were causing a spectrum of cancer, dementia, and heart disease.  It took over a generation to demonstrate that we were killing our selves in addtion causing the torture and slaughter of scores of mares and foals. 

    This is akin to the March of Dimes and other main stream birth defect organizations refusing to support the addition of extra FOLATE to prevent neural tube birth defects.  THEY KNEW THIS FOR 20 YEARS before they finally decided to admit that folate was preventative.

  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited October 2009

    What a load of crap............Shokk

  • Sunris
    Sunris Member Posts: 120
    edited October 2009

    MsBliss~

    I couldn't agree more!!

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