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  • Lainey64
    Lainey64 Member Posts: 740
    edited December 2008

    Alyssa, we are all trying to figure this out together.  I went back and forth on it too.  Now I'm sitting here in my house with my sleep cap on and afraid to do anything.  I was feeling so brave last night when my boyfriend was here but now that he's gone to work I'm feeling a little alone. My dachshund is helping but all he does is sleep! :)

    Carie, I don't think I'm on the Avastin clinical trial.  I remember my Onc mentioning something about it but I chose not to go that way.  Happy Weekend to you too! :)

  • EleanorJ
    EleanorJ Member Posts: 752
    edited December 2008

    Yeah, I didn't get a short hair cut either. I did cut about half of it bringing it to my chin but I didn't have the guts to go any shorter "just in case" I was a lucky one. My hair frizz and somewhat curl, they're weird, if I was a lucky one, it would have been A LOT of work to care for it everyday until it grew. But... not a lucky one, I'm hoping it will grow back either straight or curly, but not the funky in between can't do anything about my hair that I have right now! LOL! I was in the shower this morning and they just started coming out like crazy, I pulled about half of it off, clogged the drain and now I need to get some drano. I plan on handing the scissor to my kids later today and let them "cut" my hair then have hubby buzz it. My scalp actually hurts, not sure if it's from all the pulling in the shower (I really didn't pull too hard) or the leftover hair pulling. The sooner I buzz, the least amount of hair through my house Wink I think I'm actually doing ok. I was freaking out yesterday, spent ALL day in my pajamas, hubby tried to get me out of the house but I wouldn't do it. I'm ok now, might be a different story later, that is if I actually have the guts to do it!

  • lisasayers
    lisasayers Member Posts: 850
    edited December 2008

    It's done......the hair is gone and it was in my time!!!!!  Watch out GI Jane!

  • EleanorJ
    EleanorJ Member Posts: 752
    edited December 2008

    Good for you GI Jane, and you still look great.

  • chiquita
    chiquita Member Posts: 135
    edited December 2008
    Ifeel great today (well good) is more like...I hope tomorrow will be a great day too...good luck to all and thank you for all the help...chiquitaSmile
  • ENFENETEE
    ENFENETEE Member Posts: 13
    edited December 2008

    Hey Everyone,

    Busqueen- Thanks for asking. I was heavily sedated during the procedure. All I remember is talking to the Doctor, then the anesthesiologist and then nighty night. When I woke up in recovery they immediately did an x-ray on me. They said it came back fine and then they discharged me. I'm aching and sore. It hurts when I lift my arm up on the port side but it's getting better. After my mastectomy I had no pain and didn't take any pain medication after I went home. Now I am faithfully taking my pain medication. I guess it's just different for everyone. It still freaks me out knowing I have a port and catheter in my chest. I am scared to move. Last night I slept like a mummy.

    I am happy that I have the port because they had a time accessing a vein for the port procedure. They ended up using a vein on my wrist because they tore the other ones up at the hospital when I had my mastectomy. My veins are very small and the needles they used at the hospital were so big that they infiltrated into my muscle.

    How long did it take you  to get used to get used to your port? 

    I start chemo on 12/22 so I guess I better get used to it sooner than later, lol..

    ENFENETEE

  • mmliv
    mmliv Member Posts: 128
    edited December 2008

    Wow! I don't think we are a group anymore..... more like an organization! Welcome to all the new members, I really don't have much to add except, be sure to give yourselves breaks. I've had good days and bad days. 

    Mimiwhite - my WBC is back up too, so I will be able to take my second chemo on the 23rd. After starting this mess I sure want to finish it. I will be taking the Nuelasta shot and so after reading the posts.... thanks to Goldie and Elaine I will take it in the stomach. Will let you know how that goesSurprised

    Now that I have been hairless for almost a week - I can honestly say that wearing caps has been fine; my family has gotten used to the caps. The wig is soooooo uncomfortable and reading the posts leads me to believe it AINT goin' get better. So it only goes when I have to look professional or need to look more "polished". Forget my thought of trying to buy a more comfortable wig.

    Day 19 of TC - Feeling good...... just in time to start all over again.

    Mary 

  • busqueen
    busqueen Member Posts: 176
    edited December 2008

    ENFENETEE ~~ I'm glad it went well for you with your port.  People have so many different opinions and experiences with them, it's kind of scary to go in for it.  But if you were having a hard time with your veins like I was, you will definitely appreciate it.  It does freak me out too, it took me a few days to actually be able to try to feel it under my skin.  Enjoy your weekend and good luck on Monday.  You'll be in my thoughts.:-)

  • EleanorJ
    EleanorJ Member Posts: 752
    edited December 2008

    ENFENETEE, I was in a lot of pain too from the port surgery, I wasn't expecting that at all. Took plenty of pain killers. Took me a few days to get use to it and be able to sleep better. I got my port on Wed. and started chemo the following Monday and was fine. The worse thing about it now is that whatever I wear, I have this HUGE lump sticking out. I keep wondering when someone will ask me to get that lump checked! LOL!

  • Jordianna
    Jordianna Member Posts: 72
    edited December 2008

    Enfenetee,

    When I first got my port I felt it all of the time.  It took a while to get used to.  But, eventually, I didn't feel it at all.  The side my port is in is the side I prefer to sleep on.  For a while, I couldn't.  But, eventually, that didn't bother me either.  I do hope that this happens for you also.

    My port is what I've heard called "low profile".  You can't see it unless you're looking for it (except for the incision). 

    I will admit, even though I no longer feel it, I'm looking forward to getting it removed.  Since I finished chemo on 12/4, I'm just waiting for my surgeon's scheduler to call me with the removal date. 

    Before you know it, it will be time for yours to come out also.  As a survivor told me at the start of my chemo, there really is a light at the end of treatment. 

    Good luck.

    Jordie

  • jajebr3
    jajebr3 Member Posts: 15
    edited December 2008

    Well I am here to report that I lost my nerve and did not take myself to get even a short haircut today, let alone buzz my hair.  My nurse at the onc office had told me many women find it less devistating to just cut it off before it starts falling out(this comming form a young lady with beautiful hair...lol)   Thanks for the advise on cjhats.com, I went immediatley to the web site and ordered what looked to be the most comfy.  I am a little sad that I bought theese wigs now they are sounding like they are going to be miserable and I hate to be uncomfortable. 

    I had my port inserted when I had my masses removed, pain meds are good!!!  I slept on my back with a body pillow on both sides of me to make sure I did not roll to my sides for days.  I am happy to report that It has been 3 weeks since its placement and for the last week and a half I do not even notice it in daily activities, untill it is shower time and I see it protruding from my skin.  I am nervous for the port to be used for the first time.

  • lktracey
    lktracey Member Posts: 110
    edited December 2008

    Lisa,

    You look great.  If I keep on schedule, I'll be behind you in a few....

    No SE's still, wishing  I could get a little nausea to counteract the steroid weight... LOL!

    Have a great weekend.

    Lauren

  • BonnieK
    BonnieK Member Posts: 655
    edited December 2008

    Lisa -- you look wonderful with your new "do"!

    Enfenetee -- I'm sorry you've had so much pain after your port procedure, but I do think you will be very glad it's there.  My port was put in during a follow up surgery to correct necrosis after my mast, and the port felt strange and uncomfortable for a couple of weeks.  My first Tx was last Wednesday and the port made it SO much easier than getting poked in the arm about 10 times to find a vein.

    Side effects from the Neulasta injection hit me today and I was moving like an ancient person.  The pain is mostly in my hips and knees.  Did anyone besides me have an ongoing headache after chemo?  How about itchy eyebrows that feel like they are burning?  That's my weirdest SE and it started right after my Tx.

    -bonnie 

  • mimiwhite
    mimiwhite Member Posts: 60
    edited December 2008

    Lisasayres great picture and the red is very empowering.

    Good luck to everyone this week. I am up on deck for 2nd TC.  I feel like a hound going to the vet, but I cannot run or bark.  However, I might growl at the onc.  ;)

    Best wishes ladies.

    Mimi

  • Firni
    Firni Member Posts: 1,519
    edited December 2008

    Good morning Divas,

    Thanks for the advise on the oncotype test billing.  I did receive a booklet and letter in the mail yesterday with insurance and billing information.  So, I'll give them a call tomorrow.  Also, I called PS office and the woman who does the billing is going to re-submit my claim with additional information.  So, keep your fingers crossed.

    Lisa, you have such a lovely head, you could easily go without anything on it.  Except for the fact that it's winter and you live in PA. BRRR

    ENENETEE I had my port put in on a Mon and had chemo on Wed.  The port was still pretty sore and I was not happy about someone touching it much less putting a needle in it.  But the nurse sprayed it with that cold stuff and I never felt a thing.  Ask for it.  I never had enough pain with the port to use meds.  By day four I didn't know it was there.  Of course by then I was pre-occupied with chemo SEs.  It is still a little creepy to run my hand over it in the shower tho.

    Caroline, I'm happy that its' colder now and easy to layer clothes so that port bump doesn't show.  Poor women who started chemo in summer with little tank tops and such.  Hard to hide a port that way.

    Jajeber, just be sure to ask about numbing the port with something.  Either the cold spray or some lidocaine or something.  From what I've read on other threads, pretty much every onc. nurse uses something.  They really don't want to hurt us.

    Bonnie, I don't remember a headache after chemo and I know I didn't have itchy brows.  I started keeping a list of the SEs along with questions for the Onc. next time I go.  When I started making the list there were some that I forgot about, like that my face was flushed for two days after.  DH reminded me of that.  Who knows what's significant and what's just run of the mill SEs.  My Neulasta pain was mostly in my hips and legs.  

    Now that I've been feeling pretty normal, for about a week, I'm not sure I'm remembering if the SEs were that bad or not.  I know it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.  I don't have TX 2 until the 30th so I still have some feel good time.  Hair is still tight on my head.

  • EleanorJ
    EleanorJ Member Posts: 752
    edited December 2008

    Bonnie, I did have a light headache for a few days after chemo. Not enough that I wanted to take something, just annoying!

    I join the clan of bald people last night.  I got the kids to cut & buzz. I was surprised at how willing they were to do such thing and how much fun they had doing it!!! Of course when we got all done, my 4 year old, in is typical own self, said "Mommy, I don't think you're real pretty with no hair!" LOL! Actually, I don't think I look all that bad. Altough, IT IS COLD with no hair. I got a new dress for Christmas yesterday, so I'll be proudly sporty my port (sticking out of course) and scarf Wink and I'm going to look beautiful Kiss It's amazing how much power we give to our hair, I was a little panicked when it was getting chopped, but then I looked at myself and thought it wasn't so bad. We took pictures of the process, I'll let you know when I add them to my blog so that you can all see the new me :)

  • lisasayers
    lisasayers Member Posts: 850
    edited December 2008

    Bonnie I did have an ongoing headache after chemo, but I'm not sure if it was that or the darn weather changing every time we stepped out of the house!  I'm pretty sensitive to weather changes.

    Thanks for all the compliments ladies...I'm wishing I hadn't wasted the money on the wig, although daughter will probably use it at some point.  It was a bit chilly sleeping last night, so I'm going to pick up some sleep caps. 

    Firni, I think the chemo SE's will be like childbirth...painful during the process, but then we will forget how bad they actually are later...we we are all NED!

  • LindaBusEd
    LindaBusEd Member Posts: 121
    edited December 2008

    December Divas,

    Had a wonderful Christmas (Saturday) with the family. I had both children here (21 and 25) along with daugther's fiancee. When I woke up this morning at 3:00, it seems like they were teenagers, both of them sleeping in the den with the TV on. The fiancee was in the bed. Cooking breakfast for all of them bought tears.

    My hair is shedding more and more but not ready to shave the head.

    My port was put in on a Monday and had my first treatment on that Tuesday. Actually the port surgery was more painful than the lumpectomy and Mammosite caterer surgery. I actually didn't feel anything when the nurse put the needle in. In fact, they had another nurse look at my port area to make sure it was there because I was no swollen. I still have some pain when I sleep a certain way but I had no choice with the port because of my veins. I was kinda nervous the first time because I didn't know what to expect.

    I did have a little nagging headache after the first tx but I attributed to caffeine withdrawal because I couldn't look at coffee (a favorite of mine). However, I have been able to drink it during my good week with is this week.

    My Neulasta pain was mainly in my legs below my knees and in my feet but nothing I couldn't stand.

    2nd tx is Tuesday.  Thinking of all of you. Linda

  • CindaD
    CindaD Member Posts: 120
    edited December 2008

    Lisa, I love your hair, now I'm not afraid to buzz my own, I'm trying to hang on until Tues, that's my last day of work for the year.  Not sure if that will happen.  I tried the green juice, sorta tasted like grass, I'm going to add Tobasco today and see if that helps!

    Alyssa, I did cut my hair into a sassy cut and I have to say I really like it (now that it's starting to shed!), I'm considering keeping it short once it grows back.  It was really helpful to me to walk around with short hair, I've always had long hair since I was a little girl.  That's all I'm saying on the hair topic, I've been obsessing over it since this whole thing started.

    Firni, good luck with the insurance company, that makes me so mad!  I'd love to storm their offices and let them see our all of our battle scars, tell them our stories and have them tell us to our faces that  it wasn't "medically necessary" to pay for a test or treatment that could save our lives or a wig to make us feel better. A bunch of crap, that's what it is.

    Now I'm getting off of my soapbox and going to wrap a few presents!

  • Brenny
    Brenny Member Posts: 116
    edited December 2008

    Linda - 

      Smiled when I read your post - I would be afraid to cook for anyone right now the way my hair is shedding!  If I had a hair net, I would wear one!  I am using the lint roller like mad but every time I move (or maybe just breathe) there is another hair on my shirt!  I'm even afraid to eat my own cooking!  *smile*  You are a day before me, so I am thinking I can get through Tuesday if it doesn't drive me crazy!! I think I am not going to chance washing it in the am -- better to have dirty hair at work on Monday (last day in the office) than no hair at all???? 

    Brenda

  • Firni
    Firni Member Posts: 1,519
    edited December 2008

    You know, the funny (well not ha ha funny) thing about the oncotype test.  My onc was not going to recommend chemo because of my stage, grade and 0 node involvement.  He ordered the oncotype to confirm my Her2 status.  Then when the test results came back so high, he called me right away and said, he was going to recommend chemo.  Having  chemo drops my risk of recurrence by 38%.  That's huge!  Can't tell me the test wasn't necessary.  

    Oh, the hair isn't as tight as I thought it was.  Very much came out in the shower and there seems to be a fairly constant raining of hair onto my shoulders.  Oh well. 

  • jajebr3
    jajebr3 Member Posts: 15
    edited December 2008

    Lainey, hope your day is going better today and hope the dog is not so sleepy, little dogs can be so entertaining, my family has 2.  Thinking of you.

    Divas, is the Nuelasta shot the shot I have to go back to the onc office for the day after tx to help bring my wbc count back up, I start tx the 30th and the 29th is when I go in for the complete rundown of everything and how it works.  I had the abriviated version while I was in the office last time when I was signing papers for the Avastin clinical trial. 

    Hope all is well with each of you.

  • EleanorJ
    EleanorJ Member Posts: 752
    edited December 2008

    Firni, I'm surprised he ordered the oncotype to determine HER2 status, they usually order the FISH test for that. Well, good thing he did!

    I updated my blog with the pictures of my hair buzzing experience ;)http://thecebulas.blogspot.com/

  • BreastCancerDiva
    BreastCancerDiva Member Posts: 62
    edited December 2008

    Hail December Divas!    Just wanted to add that I joined the ranks of the buzzed heads yesterday... 2 days after tx #2.    I had already cut it short and bought a couple of wigs that I'd started wearing, but it started dropping out on Friday night.   So Saturday morning I tied a scarf around my head, went to my latin aerobics class and then trotted over the the nearby Great Clips and had them clip it all off.   I didn't want to deal with the mess!   Still have a little buzz, but if it doesn't drop soon, I think I'll take the electric razor to it.   

    I had my Neulasta shot on Friday and I have been feeling the bone pain in my lower back and hips.   My onc ok'd Advil and that helps a lot.   I have taken the Neulasta shot in my belly instead of my arm, and put the lidocaine cream they gave me to use on my port before chemo on my tummy and I never felt a thing.  

    Lisa and Cebula - you both look great!    I haven't taken any pictures without hair.... I did however buy a couple of scarves from www.tznius.com and might consider recording those looks!   Lucky for me my wigs are pretty comfortable and they look much better than my real hair.   

    Bonnie - I do get a headache after chemo, but it's one of the side effects of the anti-nausea med.   Hits right in the middle of my forehead.  

    Take care, divas.  

    Robyn

  • Firni
    Firni Member Posts: 1,519
    edited December 2008

    They had done the IHC test twice and the FISH once and my HER2 kept falling in the non-reportable range making the test results equivocal.  Basically that means they couldn't tell what it was. Thus the oncotype to positively determine the status.

    Caroline, you look cute with no hair.  I'm going to check out your blog a little later. 

  • EleanorJ
    EleanorJ Member Posts: 752
    edited December 2008

    Wow, well, I'm glad for you it turned out negative, saves you a year of Herceptin! Sorry about the hair, looks like you're really 2 days behind me aren't you? I had to buzz, I think I was driving my hubby crazy by pulling my hair all day long! My head feels so much better now, the hair aren't pulling anymore.

  • sdavis
    sdavis Member Posts: 96
    edited December 2008

    Bkokie -- I had a raging headache after my tx for a week. It was so bad when the tylenol wore off in the middle of the night I woke up to find more. By 10 days post tx I was feeling fine and have been okay since then.

    I worked last night until late and was due to work this morning but woke up with a bad case of Diarrhea and called off. Not sure if I caught a bug or what.

  • havehope
    havehope Member Posts: 503
    edited December 2008

    Bkokie: 

    I had headaches for about 10-12 days after treatment, not strong enough to take meds but annoying.

    My onc told me that she will check my WBC and if the count is too low, she will reduce the dosage next treatment and extend the treatment to 5 or 6 sessions instead of 4. She said that as long as I am taking the dosage in total it doesn't matter how I take it. She said she would not give me Neulasta only if I really need it. Anybody else heard about this before?

  • Firni
    Firni Member Posts: 1,519
    edited December 2008

    Somebody a while back had a link to a site showing different ways to tie scarves.  Anyone know what it was????

    Simvog, I've heard of extending the treatments at a lower dose if the SEs are too much to deal with. I've not heard of it for WBC.  I would think your count would go down regardless of what the dose is.  I wonder if it's an insurance thing or if that is just her preference.  Geez, even tho the Neulasta is a literal pain, I'd rather deal with that for a few days than extend my treatment!

    I am really just a couple days behind you, Caroline.  So, I'm thinking I might need a couple of great scarf tying techniques for the party. 

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