The Respectfully Republican Conversation

Thanks for the link, IBC.  That's a GOOD'UN!  Can't wait ti use it on all my dem family and friends. LOL  But, of course, it will mean nothing to them cuz they are always right.

Paulette, I know how you feel about PRESIDENT Bush.  He IS still the president, right?  LOL  Sometimes I get a bit confused.  Some want him to resign and let Obama take over....that's the biggest laugh yet!

Has there been mistakes made by President Bush..bet'cha there has!  Everyone makes'em.  But he did not point his finger in my face and lie to me.  I will never forget when Clinton did that and when Mrs. Clinton did her "right wing conspiracy" talk on the Today Show.  Her dh is a womanizer and a liar.  And personally, I'm not sure what I think about her.  I'll have to give it much thought and research.  Nah.  That would take too much time and trouble AND energy.  I'm a very busy woman!   

But he did not point his finger in my face and lie to me.  I will never forget when Clinton did that and when Mrs. Clinton did her "right wing conspiracy" talk on the Today Show.  Her dh is a womanizer and a liar. 

Lets see.  Clinton brought us peace and prosperity.  Bush a worthless and useless war, a ruined economy and he made us the laughing stock of the world.  And you support Bush over Clinton because Clinton lied about having a BJ.  Pretty funny there Shirley. 

SHOO-SHOO!  GO AWAY BUG -- GO AWAY

Moody, Mein Kampf was published in the 1920s, and authored by Hitler while he was still in prison.  It was a horribly anti-semetic book.  The people who voted for Hitler knew exactly what they were getting, and though he got only a small percentage of the popular vote, he was appointed to power by Hiddenburg because Hitler had the support of the most vicious people ever to walk the face of the earth.  Obama is supported by young, old, rich, poor, white, black, even conservatives as well as Liberals.  He is hardly a Hitler.

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shoo bug ....

Any body ever have a tootsie pop?  My dd has a bunch in her goodie bag ...  How many licks does it take???

 Moody, IGNORE HIM

Isn't Obama the one who said he would support the Muslims not the Jews?

If he said this, I never saw it.  I saw videos of him in Israel and speaking very highly of it and the jews.  Never saw anything where he wolrd support Muslim over Jews.  You have a direct source?.  By the way, his very first selection .  Emmanuel as Chief of Staff is a Jew, whose Dad was born in Jerusalem, fought for the Irgun to get the British out of Palestine before Israel was declared an independent Nation.  Emmanual himself went to Israel to help out during the first Iraqi war, so I kind of suspect that OB is not an anti-semite at the least.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/125656  from a 12/2008 article

You can read the whole article.

Here is an example:

The Arab-American activist went on to say: "In 2000, when Obama unsuccessfully ran for Congress I heard him speak at a campaign fundraiser hosted by a University of Chicago professor. On that occasion and others Obama was forthright in his criticism of US policy and his call for an even-handed approach to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.""Obama's about-face is not surprising," Abunimah wrote. "He is merely doing what he thinks is necessary to get elected and he will continue doing it as long as it keeps him in power."

And this article:

 http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/barack_obama_and_israel.html

The ascent of Barack Obama from state senator in Illinois to a leading contender for the Presidential nomination in the span of just a few years is remarkable. Especially in light of a noticeably unremarkable record -- a near-blank slate of few accomplishments and numerous missed votes.

However, in one area of foreign policy that concerns millions of Americans, he does have a record and it is a particularly troubling one. For all supporters of the America-Israel relationship there is enough information beyond the glare of the klieg lights to give one pause.  In contrast to his canned speeches filled with "poetry" and uplifting aphorisms and delivered in a commanding way, behind the campaign façade lies a disquieting pattern of behavior.
One seemingly consistent theme running throughout Barack Obama's career is his comfort with aligning himself with people who are anti-Israel advocates. This ease around Israel animus has taken various forms. As Obama has continued his political ascent, he has moved up the prestige scale in terms of his associates. Early on in his career he chose a church headed by a former Black Muslim who is a harsh anti-Israel advocate and who may be seen as tinged with anti-Semitism. This church is a member of a denomination whose governing body has taken a series of anti-Israel actions. 

The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for almost 40 years now. It took a divestment campaign to wake the business community up concerning the South Africa issue. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community up and to wake Americans up concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.

The Obama birth certificate seems to be the story of the day; as well as the idea that he is "like Hitler," with socialism and our rotten economy. WTH?? There are some very, very ignorant people out there; as well as racist!

Thats a comment I read from the other side .... how is this racist?  Everybody in the US has to produce a social security card and drivers license or a US passport JUST TO HAVE  A JOB.  What's so hard about a little more when you are going to be the Pres?  Like the passport?  And proving  he was born here?  If there is doubt, root it out ... otherwise it becomes a stinking mess.  What is the problem? If my company  asked to see mine, I would get it out from my safe and show it. No problem.

He should just shut people up with the proof!  Or the cry will continue that he is hiding something.

I'll take "ignorant" over gullible.....$$$$$$$$$$$

Moody...over here, we are all ignorant and racist and it is just all so saaaaaaaaaadddddddddddd that we think this way.

To seriously compare Obama to Hitler, you really do have to be somewhat of a whack job.

Sherri,

If Obama signs that stimulus package at $500 BILLION, then we'll know the real person.  First it was $150 Bil, then $300 Bil, now $500 Bil, and not a word as to where its suppose to go.  If Obama is such a historian then he must know that FDR tried the same thing with his public works programs.  They didn't cure the depression.  The only thing that did, was tax relief to stimulate business and a war.  All this crap about re-distribution of wealth was tried and failed before.  Hoover tried it to help pay for gov't spending, didn't work.  All he needs to do is pull another Clinton, announce he won't be raising taxes on businesses and instead lowering them, and bingo.  But he's so locked in to that stupidity of upping taxes.  Oh well.  

Shrimp!

The teflon president-elect

By Larry Elder

http://www.JewishWorldReview.com | "How long do you think it will take for the press to turn on Obama?" a friend asked.

"Eight years, if he's in that long," I told him. "Doesn't matter what happens. Either they'll blame Bush or 'circumstances beyond Obama's control' while writing articles about how heroically Obama handles them." It's already started.

Take President-elect Barack Obama's campaign narrative: a) Bush/McCain deregulation created our problems; b) the policies of President Clinton brought success and shared prosperity, c) President Bush's tax cuts unfairly enriched the rich, d) Obama intends to end posthaste the Iraq war, which "never should have been authorized and never should have been waged," and e) through Gitmo/unlawful wiretaps/illegal interrogation procedures, Bush "shredded" the Constitution.

Let's review.

Ever heard of the Glass-Steagall Act? President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, whose New Deal policies Obama wants to mirror, signed it into law to prevent commercial banks from engaging in investment banking. Investment banking, the kind of work done by Wall Street titans such as Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns, raises money to package and sell securities such as the now-discredited "toxic" mortgage and mortgage-backed derivatives. Clinton, with the backing of many Republicans, allowed the banking/investment wall to fall by signing the 1999 Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, repealing a large part of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. This led to the business model of the now-troubled and recently bailed-out Citigroup, a model impossible but for the repeal of Glass-Steagall.

The Clinton administration, during its waning days, published a paper called "The Clinton Presidency: Historic Economic Growth." It listed among its achievements "Modernizing for the New Economy through Technology and Consensus Deregulation."

Clinton denies - correctly - that his deregulation policies caused the current financial meltdown. "I don't see that signing that bill had anything to do with the current crisis," he said. "Indeed, one of the things that has helped stabilize the current situation as much as it has is the purchase of Merrill Lynch by Bank of America, which was much smoother than it would have been if I hadn't signed that bill." Blaming deregulation on the financial crisis ignores a whole chain of events, most notably the decline in housing values. But that didn't stop candidate Obama from screaming "deregulation," even though Clinton deregulated the financial sector more than did Bush.

Candidate Obama maligned the Bush tax cuts for benefiting the rich. But President-elect Obama now intends to retain all the tax cuts, keeping the lower rates on the "rich" until they expire in 2011 - a far cry from his campaign promises.

What about Bush's "stupid" Iraq war?

Obama now wants Bush's secretary of defense, Robert Gates, to stay. Huh? Gates supported the successful surge and the change in counterinsurgent strategy. Sen. Obama opposed the surge, attempted to stop it, and predicted failure. Candidate Obama promised to have combat troops out within a year or 16 months of his administration, but President Bush and the Iraqi government now tentatively agree to have all troops out by 2011, a timetable unfathomable but for Bush's courageous and ultimately successful decision to surge.

What about the Guantanamo Bay detainees, the "evil" interrogation techniques and "unlawful" wiretaps?

Obama - actually faced with governing - seems now to understand the complex legal questions Bush grappled with. Gitmo contains some really, really bad people, and Obama's security advisers now appreciate the complex legal and logistical problems. Where to move the detainees? Moving them onto American soil creates a possible target for terror attacks. And what legal rights and procedures apply in moving the detainees to America? As for the Bush surveillance program - which allegedly "shredded" the Constitution - Team Obama signals an intention to retain many, if not most, of these "dreaded" policies.

Eric Holder, Obama's choice for attorney general, served as deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration. He agreed with Bush on a very important policy - one opposed by liberal icons like Al Gore. Holder, in a 2002 interview, agreed that terrorists must be interrogated so we can learn information on their cells or future plans, and that the Geneva Conventions limited the amount of information interrogators could get. Clearly they were not prisoners of war, said Holder, and were, therefore, not covered by the protections of the Geneva Conventions. However, argued Holder, if we want our own prisoners treated well, we should treat the detainees very humanely and in a manner consistent with the Geneva Conventions - a position that Bush ultimately came to.

So where does this leave us?

Bush wasn't so evil after all. And running for and governing as president are two different things. But don't expect the Obama-loving media to notice � or care.

I didn't ever see any  Democrats "get over" the election of Bush.  Nor did the Democrats EVER stop and try to unite under Bush.  You never saw the people <----------------- being quiet under Bush and would never have settled with McCain.  We are not any different.  Now we have to hope that Obama does the right thing because we live here ... but I will do everything to get fiscally responsible leaders into Congress and get rid of Pelosi and Feinstein.  Barbara Boxer is another one that I can't stand.