The Respectfully Republican Conversation

Oh, LuAnn, I don't think you are a disturber, I am commenting on the point that we don't seem to blame the dems as much as they blame the republicans and you won't see the venom here ... I was not referring to you .. but I don't think that you should feel that Republicans think that we are in this mess only because Democrats exist in the world ...

HAPPY BI-PARTISAN THANKSGIVING!!!

May your stuffing be tasty
May your turkey plump,
May your potatoes and gravy
Have never a lump.
May your yams be delicious
And your pies take the prize,
And may your Thanksgiving dinner
Stay off your thighs!

My fellow Rep. sisters ... some of you are Bush fans and you know I am not ... but look at what the Yahoo news wrote about him... 

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We have "only one President at a time," Barack Obama said in his debut press conference as President-elect. Normally, that would be a safe assumption - but we're learning not to assume anything as the charcoal-dreary economic winter approaches. By mid-November, with the financial crisis growing worse by the day, it had become obvious that one President was no longer enough (at least not the President we had). So, in the days before Thanksgiving, Obama began to move - if not to take charge outright, then at least to preview what things will be like when he does take over in January. He became a more public presence, taking questions from the press three days in a row. He named his economic team. He promised an enormous stimulus package that would somehow create 2.5 million new jobs, and began to maneuver the new Congress toward having the bill ready for him to sign - in a dramatic ceremony, no doubt - as soon as he assumes office.

That we have slightly more than one President for the moment is mostly a consequence of the extraordinary economic times. Even if George Washington were the incumbent, the markets would want to know what John Adams was planning to do after his Inauguration. And yet this final humiliation seems particularly appropriate for George W. Bush. At the end of a presidency of stupefying ineptitude, he has become the lamest of all possible ducks. (See TIME's best pictures of Barack Obama.)

It is in the nature of mainstream journalism to attempt to be kind to Presidents when they are coming and going but to be fiercely skeptical in between. I've been feeling sorry for Bush lately, a feeling partly induced by recent fictional depictions of the President as an amiable lunkhead in Oliver Stone's W. and in Curtis Sittenfeld's terrific novel American Wife. There was a photo in the New York Times that seemed to sum up his current circumstance: Bush in Peru, dressed in an alpaca poncho, standing alone just after the photo op at the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation forum, with various Asian leaders departing the stage, none of them making eye contact with him. Bush has that forlorn what-the-hell-happened? expression on his face, the one that has marked his presidency at difficult times. You never want to see the President of the United States looking like that.

So I've been searching for valedictory encomiums. His position on immigration was admirable and courageous; he was right about the Dubai Ports deal and about free trade in general. He spoke well, in the abstract, about the importance of freedom. He is an impeccable classicist when it comes to baseball. And that just about does it for me. I'd add the bracing moment of Bush with the bullhorn in the ruins of the World Trade Center, but that was neutered in my memory by his ridiculous, preening appearance in a flight suit on the deck of the aircraft carrier beneath the "Mission Accomplished" sign. The flight-suit image is one of the two defining moments of the Bush failure. The other is the photo of Bush staring out the window of Air Force One, helplessly viewing the destruction wrought by Hurricane Katrina. This is a presidency that has wobbled between those two poles - overweening arrogance and paralytic incompetence.(President Bush in the Middle East.)

The latter has held sway these past few months as the economy has crumbled. It is too early to rate the performance of Bush's economic team, but we have more than enough evidence to say, definitively, that at a moment when there was a vast national need for reassurance, the President himself was a cipher. Yes, he's a lame duck with an Antarctic approval rating - but can you imagine Bill Clinton going so gently into the night? There are substantive gestures available to a President that do not involve the use of force or photo ops. For example, Bush could have boosted the public spirit - and the auto industry - by announcing that he was scrapping the entire federal automotive fleet, including the presidential limousine, and replacing it with hybrids made in Detroit. He could have jump-started - and he still could - the Obama plan by releasing funds for a green-jobs program to insulate public buildings. He could start funding the transit projects already approved by Congress.

In the end, though, it will not be the creative paralysis that defines Bush. It will be his intellectual laziness, at home and abroad. Bush never understood, or cared about, the delicate balance between freedom and regulation that was necessary to make markets work. He never understood, or cared about, the delicate balance between freedom and equity that was necessary to maintain the strong middle class required for both prosperity and democracy. He never considered the complexities of the cultures he was invading. He never understood that faith, unaccompanied by rigorous skepticism, is a recipe for myopia and foolishness. He is less than President now, and that is appropriate. He was never very much of one.

I don't think we will really be able to comprehend Bush's presidency for at least 25 years......many of us will not live to see how this history is written.........I will say this 9 months after Bush took office and 3 months after he got his team together.......remember the election of 2000......we got hit on 9/11.........we were at the time in a recession...........I do believe that Bush has done an honorable job at keeping us safe.........now with respect to Iraq.........I think that Bush's intentions were good...........this world is a safer place without Insane and his two sons.......period.............trying to bring democracy to a nation I think is also good but when a country which is probably the birth place of mankind and has never been free I'm not sure it is doable......but again we just don't know.........we won't know for a long time..........Islam is really not a religion of freedom............traditions die hard............Shokk

Hey Vivre we have our own FREAKING oil...........$$.......$$$$.........Shokk

Well Tuesday will be a big day here in GA and for the country.  the last rep senator is battling it out for the last seat.  if dem jim martin beats him the senate has their 60.

the commercials are getting vicious so many accusations and half truths coming from both sides.  everyday in my mail box i'll have about 3 mailings per candidate.  getting UGLY!

LuAnnH wrote:  

 It really shows that the suicide rate among these men is raising and getting higher.  The worse part of this is that my son is in the higher group that is likely to do this.  It's just a sad fact of our society. 

LuAnn, why do you say that?  Have you noticed or has he mentioned anything in his emails or over the phone about suicide?  Have you heard it in his voice?  If so, can you report this to someone before he comes home, or would that mess up his record?  Is he staying in the service?  I know you are extremely worried about your son and I don't blame you.  I'm glad you've got your ears and eyes open.

Shirley

I'm sure most of you have see this.  Watch it again if you want.  Make sure you watch it until the end.  Make comments..discuss this young man's attitude and beliefs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Shirley

I agree with you completely.  Why does everyone just accept what Bill Clinton did as being PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.??,  and poor G.W. Bush can't do ANYTHING right?  I think he handled the Sept. 11th situation very well.  He was obviously very upset, but he didn't want to scare the children.  But, he can't do anything right.  I think history will prove that G.W. was one of this country's best presidents.  No, he's not perfect...  But, he didn't get a B.J. in the oval office and then LIE about it to the Americans. 

  It really makes me ANGRY!!

I liked that video, too.  Wonder what B.O. thinks about it?

Hope you had a good Thanksgiving... 

Harley

Well my opinion is that Clinton got a blow job from an intern (I could be wrong about that because I don't watch TV and don't live in the US). Again I don't know but it doesn't seem like she was forced and she kept the skirt for evidence and talked about it. Well OK, this is hardly good behaviour but no one died.



So far as we know Bush has kept his pecker in his pants, but thousands upon thousounds are dead.

I and many others wish he had just had a blow job instead.

Hi Shirley, you be back.

On the Bush Lied, go to this link

www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

Rosemary, I just get so tired of hearing about "the war" and "oil" and "the economy"...the truth is, life is cyclical PERIOD! War has been existence since the beginning of time and will still be happening somewhere when we are no longer here, the economy is cyclical, always has been, always will be and like I said, if GW wanted their damn oil, we would have it by now.

It's too bad there isn't some island like Australia where all the wah wahs (<---------------------) could be sent to (like the British did to criminals) and they could live in their perfect little world they create on their own and not be bothered by the real world. I can guarentee you within a short time they would be fighting and warring amongst themselves, it is human nature. 

I don't think we went for oil ... I don't think he lied either ... I, too, think he relied on bad intell.  But when Saddam saw that Bush was serious, he cried Uncle, and the US said, too late and went in anyway even the UN inspectors said, "he is going to let us in." ...  Who is at fault there?  I don't know, Bush? Cheney? A General hungry for war pushing Bush to go in?  I don't know....What I do believe is that we could have pulled out long ago ... I am not politically correct in this but I don't care about them over there ... our boys need to come home and those people don't want us, don't want to change and if there are, then maybe the ones who want to leave can be helped to find a new home in a new country.  Too bad the Arab nations aren't trying to help them integrate into peaceful areas.

I guess there are others who are as worried about the fact that we will soon have a president that we know nothing about. Why won't the guy just produce his birth certificate if he has nothing to hide? I know, he has some phoney registration of birth. I got one of these from the hospital when my sons were born. I took it with me to get my son a passport. I was told, this is not a legal document. I had to go back for the real birth certificate. How did Obama get into Pakistan without a US passport? Where are his loyalties? This man has never accomplished a thing except deception. I just cannot shake this sinking feeling that our next president is the quintessential snake oil salesman. I am not alone. Why can't he just produce a birth certificate, or a passport, or even a social security card? Check out what this PUMA has to say:

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/

1SP!

Okay-- I have caused any controversy in about........an hour LOL so here we go:

Last night I was watching the National Geographic channel - I have never watched it before- but it had something on that intrigued me "Hitler and the Occult".......Here is the  WIERD part, my hubby and I are watching it and I swear it sounded JUST like what we have been through and are going through with Obama! 

Germany was suffering economically, they wanted "change" and Hitler was new on the scene, promising "change"  he was backed by powerful money people.  as soon as he was elected, the economy began to turn around, people started with the "hi ho hitler"..............and  then....BAMB--he began IMPLEMENTING his SOCIALISTIC ways with the military on his side!!!!!!!