I need a mentor
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Saint - it makes me so happy to hear about you and your sister! Thank you for sharing it with us.
I had another one of those "things that make you go hmmmm" moments today. I was at church today (yes, I did actually make it - that extra hour really helped). The title of todays sermon was something like Hurts, Habits and Hangups. In the beginning of the service they had a verse from 2nd Corinthians posted:
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves have received from God. For just as the sufferings of Christ flow over into our lives, so also through Christ our comfort overflows. If we are distressed, it is for your comfort and salvation; if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which produces in you patient endurance of the same sufferings we suffer. And our hope for you is firm, because we know that just as you share in our sufferings, so also you share in our comfort.
Badboob - I just looked back at one of your posts - sound familiar?
I could swear that Pastor said something about our pain being for the benefit of someone else - he almost made it sound like God swats us down so we can help someone else, but I am sure that is not what he meant...I hope

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I'm just so encouraged to see how we can help each other by reaching out.....
sleep well, dear held. lead us to clarity.
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Held. Just got this little thought in an email from a dear friend. You'd asked about 'church attendance' and this is a parable, very much along the line of Saint's response earlier -- about being missed:
A member of a certain church, who previously had been attending services regularly, stopped going. After a few weeks, the preacher decided to visit him.
It was a chilly evening. The preacher found the man at home alone, sitting before a blazing fire. Guessing the reason for his preacher's visit, the man welcomed him, led him to a comfortable chair near the fireplace and waited.
The preacher made himself at home but said nothing. In the grave silence, he contemplated the dance of the flames around the burning logs. After some minutes, the preacher took the fire tongs, carefully picked up a brightly burning ember and placed it to one side of the hearth all alone then he sat back in his chair, still silent.
The host watched all this in quiet contemplation. As the one lone ember's flame flickered and diminished, there was a momentary glow and then its fire was no more. Soon it was cold and dead.
Not a word had been spoken since the initial greeting. The preacher glanced at his watch and realized it was time to leave. He slowly stood up, picked up the cold, dead ember and placed it back in the middle of the fire. Immediately it began to glow, once more with the light and warmth of the burning coals around it.
As the preacher reached the door to leave, his host said with a tear running down his cheek, 'Thank you so much for your visit and especially for the fiery sermon. I shall be back in church next Sunday.' -
Goodness Faith! I am not qualified to lead any of us anywhere!!! LOL! By the way, I really liked the story!
My sleeping issues do continue, and I am getting fat because of it!! UGH! Please continue to pray for me that I can sleep thru the night. Anyone else out there need prayers for sleep?
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F&F - I also recently received the same story in an e-mail. Yes, it's definitely a good one.
Held - my prayers are with you for a more peaceful, restful night.
I am struggling with blended family issues on top of my cancer battle. Can anyone relate to that? If you are step-parent dealing with tensions from adult step-children (age 18+) I would appreciate hearing from you. Please PM me and maybe we could enter a chat together. This situation has me really in the blues.
Thanks and continued warm blessings to all!
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Just checking in and hoping to hear that Held has had some success getting some restful sleep!
My sister in law is having an excisional biopsy/lumpectomy Friday. I would appreciate it if you could remember Heidi in your prayers. She has a 3 year old son and 5 year old daughter. I know she is frightened.
Thank you!
Much love and many prayers to all,
Diane
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Diane: Heidi is a priority on our shared prayer list. She is blessed to have a caring sister in law like you, and she, as well as her little ones, are included in our circle of love and concern ...Granny.
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Diane: Special prayers have been offered up for Heidi today as she goes through her surgery. The prayer is that she will sense that the mind and hands of the surgeon are guided by the mind and hand of our Great Physician, who supervises all healing from above; and that her children will be comforted in their fears by those who care for them until Mommy comes back home. ... Granny.
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Thank you so much! It seems I have lots of needs lately. Yesterday, dh told me that we are in serious arrears with the house payment and his employer has halted all overtime (and is closing down a couple of locations!). I'm trusting the Lord that whatever happens is his plan, but we could also use your prayers to help us get through. DH places so much pressure on himself and it's really beating him down.
I'll let you know about Heidi when I hear something! I am so very thankful to have you all in my corner!
God bless,
Diane
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Diane - love and prayers being sent your way. Please let us know (as soon as you can) how Heidi made out. We will pray that God will bless you whatever His plan is for you.
Here is a question for my mentors - is it ok if I ask God to please make His plan to prosper Diane and her husband(does that make sense)?
PS - I am getting some better sleep these days ladies. Thank you so much for continuing to pray for me.
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Diane. Adding my prayers to the others here, on your behalf. I'm so sorry that your husband has so much to juggle in the midst of your battle.
Held. Just my little thought, but I think that we can certainly send specific prayers for Diane and family to "make ends meet" in a specific prayer -- in the same way that we ask for sound sleep on your behalf.
All of that scripture about the sparrows and the grasses, in splendor and not concerned comes to mind. I personally feel that we can champion the causes of one another...... prompting angels to gather where they are needed.
Glad to hear that you've had some good sleep...... tho that post is from a little while back, hope that it is still 'true.'
Hugs around the thread..........
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Ladies I am a bit discouraged today. My local hospital offers personal training sessions, at discount price, for breast cancer survivors. I called about it today and was told I need clearance from ALL of my doctors (that is quite a list). Sooooo I started making phone calls and requesting scripts clearing me to begin an exercise program. This afternoon the lady who runs the program called and told me that she is not sure I am a candidate for the program because I have had reconstruction. They consider me "too high-risk". They don't know a stinkin' thing about me, other than I am a survivor and have had multiple surgeries. They decided that the doctor that directs the program will have to speak directly to my ps to get his approval! WTH?!?!?!? I am not in chemo or having rads, and I am not 100 years old! What do they mean "high-risk"!?!?!?! I hung up and phone and cried.
I had been so excited that I was going to be able to work with someone that would really be able to help me get my pec muscles stronger. I know that I will be reminded of my dx everyday for the rest of my life, but would it be asking too much to have it not impact so many aspects of my life? Geez maneeze! Can't I move on? I feel like it is beginning to define me. I am so sick of all this. My head hurts.................

Diane - any news? Sending more prayers your way.
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Hugs for Heidi & Held & all who need them. I wish I had the answers for all the ills that are visited on you, but I will keep you in my prayers.......I pray that you find peace & calm in the midst of the storms & see your way thru the challenges!Be well & stay strong!
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I'm on the non sleep express here at 2am, so add me to that prayer list. Held, we can ask God for anything and asking God to prosper Diane and her family is ok. I believe the more specific a prayer is the better. I personally see more answers to prayers when I pray specifically and expecting results.
Lord, I lift Held up as she is trying to get into this gym program. I pray that you will bring her drs. into alignment sooner than later and that the confusion over her situation is solved quickly so she can begin to work out. I also pray for Diane Lord, she has been such a kind and supportive voice to the women on these boards. I pray for her families financial situation, we know you promise to meet our every need, we ask Lord that you will do that in a timely manner, I would also ask that you would bless them beyond the basics. I ask that you bring a financial blessing to them this month. I also pray for Heidi, I don't know at this time what her situation is, but you do. Please be with her and calm her fears. I thank-you that she has Diane so near to be a support to her. I thank you Lord that you are with us in the midst of our treatments and everything that goes with them. I thank-you that not only are you a shield around us, but a lifter of our heads.(Actually a verse in Psalms I can't find) Amen
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Chiming in with prayers on the go...... for all gathered round this thread and any who might be reading here as well. May angels grace each and all with the support and encouragement needed for the specific situation at hand.
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Praying for something specific was one of the first questions I had when I started this thread. I think some may have said that they do not do this, but rather just pray for God's will to be done. I had expressed my frustrations about prayers not being answered, so that is why I asked the question.
Diane - any news?
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Held, I too will listen. A mentor? Well if God chooses that then I will do his bidding. If it was not for my faith and God, I would have gave up along time ago. You see 2 years ago Christmas Day the Lord called my Dad home, which in turn left my Mother ( who had never lived alone) completely alone, They had 4 children including myself and I was never the favorite in Mothers eyes (Not that she was mean to me) but, when it came to someone staying and taking care of her, I was the one Blessed with that opportunity almost 2 years later I am still Blessed with it (honestly bout over it lol) during that almost two years well actually about 2 weeks after Daddy died my Moms mother passed as well as a friend of mine then a few months later I was diagnosed with BC, talk about overload, I had it however, I never asked why? although everyone else did and couldn't understand why I did not, as I have been through so much in life and I was always the one who handled everything, I told them I do not ask WHY ME LORD???? I ask WHAT AM I TO LEARN FROM THIS??? and have I been angry? YES!!!! just not at God Angry at the CANCER, Weird I know, but this is how I see Good truly does come from our trials God Allows, not causes to happen. How is this believeable you might ask, Well you see Yes! I lost my Daddy, No warning just Boom and me and Daddy were close, so close in fact that maybe I never gave Mom the chance or maybe it was a jealousy thing since I thought Daddy was Awesome and from that tragedy, I heard for the first time since I was very little I love you come out of my mothers mouth, I was 42 years old, it meant everything to me so you see Good does come. . Then my diagnoses, Who was there for me besides God ??// My whole family even my brother whom I was close to when younger but, had grown apart as we got older and also my Little sister (by 15 years) who we had all spoiled and she takes me to every Chemo and every drs appt and everything else. So see God has done so much through my trials he has not only shown his love for me but, also shown me the love of others that I never thought I would have and he has shown me all of the women on this board, who get together and chat and support each other, I am not saying I don't get sad mad or angry I just don't get that way with God and also if someone is going to pass judgement on you for asking questions or being angry with God or anyone, then I think they need to be doing what we are doing Looking for the answers the right way.!!! I hope this helps and know that you can contact me at anytime about anything and even though Daddy named me from the book of Judges (DEBORAH) I will never judge you. Also on the praying issue just act like you are having a conversation with one of your friends there is no right or wrong way to pray cause the neat thing about God is that he knows whats truly in our heart and what we really mean to say even if we say it wrong, all he wants is for us to come to him, trust in him and love him and there is no wrong way in him.
Hugs and Prayers, Non Judgemental Deborah (Debbi)
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Held, I too will listen. A mentor? Well if God chooses that then I will do his bidding. If it was not for my faith and God, I would have gave up along time ago. You see 2 years ago Christmas Day the Lord called my Dad home, which in turn left my Mother ( who had never lived alone) completely alone, They had 4 children including myself and I was never the favorite in Mothers eyes (Not that she was mean to me) but, when it came to someone staying and taking care of her, I was the one Blessed with that opportunity almost 2 years later I am still Blessed with it (honestly bout over it lol) during that almost two years well actually about 2 weeks after Daddy died my Moms mother passed as well as a frind of mine then a few months later I was diagnosed with BC talk about overload, I had it however, I never asked why? although everyone else did and couldn't understand why I did not, as I have been through so much in life and I was always the one who handled everything, I told them I do not ask WHY ME LORD???? I ask WHAT AM I TO LEARN FROM THIS??? and have I been angry YES!!!! just not at God Angry at the CANCER, Weird I know but this is how I see Good truly does come from our trials God Allows not causes to happen. How is this believeable you might ask, Well you see Yes! I lost my Daddy, No warning just Boom and me and Daddy were close, so close in fact that maybe I never gave Mom the chance or maybe it was a jealousy thing since I thought Daddy was Awesome and from that tragedy I heard for the first time since I was very little I love you come out of my mothers mouth, I was 42 years old, it meant everything to me so you see Good does come there are reasons. Then my diagnoses, Who was there for me besides God ??// My whole family even my brotherwhom I was close to when younger but, had grown apart as we got older and also my Little sister (by 15 years) who we had all spoiled and she takes me to every Chemo and every drs appt and everything else. So see God has done so much through my trials he has not only shown his love for me but, also shown me the love of others that I never thought I would have and he has shown me all of the women on this board, who get together and chat and support each other, I am not saying I don't get sad mad or angry I just don't get that way with God and also if someone is going to pass judgement on you for asking questions or being angry with God or anyone then I think they need to be doing what we are doing Looking for the answers the right way.!!! I hope this helps and know that you can contact me at anytime about anything and even though Daddy named me from the book of Judges (DEBORAH) I will never judge you. Also on the praying issue just act like you are having a conversation with one of your friends there is no right or wrong way to pray cause the neat thing about God is that he knows whats truly in our heart and what we really mean to say even if we say it wrong all he wants is for us to come to him, trust in him and love him and there is no wrong way in him.
Hugs and Prayers, Non Judgemental Deborah (Debbi)
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Just chiming in with a different persepective----in recent years I have learned that much of what we want or think we need may not be what is best for us, so my prayers may have seemed to go unanswered, initially, when I prayed for something specific. Later the answer would be very clear & NOT what I prayed for at the time. When I am too specific I may miss the answer cuz it comes in diferent wrappings than what I was watching/waiting for-does that make sense?? I believe you can/should ask for specifics, especially if you are asking for blessings on someone else's behalf. My prayer is always that we know God's presence in our lives & trust that we are never abandoned. I pray for us to know peace & calm in the midst of the storms. Personally, I don't do well with just leaving it to "god's will" but then-I tend to be a control freak!! Mets sure does give me lessens on letting THATgo!
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I'm sorry to keep you all hanging...my internet is being whacky! Heidi's surgery went well. She got a call yesterday and they told her it was a fibroadenoma. Thank the Lord and thank you all for your prayers!
((((HUGS)))
Diane -
Re the news about Heidi: HALLELUJAH! Thank You, Lord! HELD: I have heard you say that you have nothing to teach others. In my mind you have the same teaching style as Bible prophets, not afraid to ask hard questions and able to express your thoughts to others. You help keep us thinking, praying and encouraging each other in our struggles. Please, Held, don't stop... much love to all, Granny.
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I just found this thread-have the same concerns as Held. So many questions and not comfortable with the minister at church. Just reading this thread has helped me in my effort to make some sense of where I am and where I want to be.
Thank you all for your thoughts and willingness to share such a personal and private thing.
Elaine
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This is a great thread. I am so glad to find it...
Tracey - I am glad I am not the only one who hears "God in my head". I've heard many tthings so I started writing them down!!! I look at the list from time to time to remind myself...
Saint - I agree with everything you wrote. Esp about God as a loving father and our own (that is human kind's own) free will getting us into these messes, like cancer. I don't believe God would give us cancer. What kind of God would that be? I also beleive that he never promised us bad things wouldn't happen, but he did promise we would never be alone. And I've found that to be true for me.
Held - You are Brave! You are Honest! You are Spiritual! Just talk to God like a person, he can handle everything you have in you.The good, the bad, the ugly. You won't hurt God. And don't be afraid. He is just waiting there for whever you are ready, and he will wait as long as it takes you.
I will pray for you right now.
Springtime.
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I apoligize ahead of time if I offend anyone- that is not my intention. This is something I have been wondering, struggling with, questioning for a long time and this seems like the place to ask/discuss: Is it possible to have relationship with God and not be part of a church and all the beliefs of a church? Does that make me a bad person, not one of Gods children now or when I die? If someone goes to services and goes thru the motions but is not very nice or helpful to others during the week- is that better than someone who does not go regularly to services but spends much of their time helping to make someone else's life better? Can I have faith in God but not faith in "the church"?
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EWB; I think this is a great place to ask/discuss. Thanks to Held who started this thread. I come and read and get very inspired. I think that God will truly bless you in helping others. It is away of serving our Lord. Church is not for everyone. It took me a long time to find a church. I finally did. It was not a easy journey and churches are still going to have issues. I think you can be a christian if you do not go to church. That you can believe with all your heart. God loves you. For you are his child. Do you believe in God? Do you believe that he is there in the mist of it all? May you have a blessed day! May God praise you daily for your good works in him.
In God's Grace; Elizabeth
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Although I go to church as much as I can, I don't think you have to go in order to believe or to get into heaven. I go to church to hear Gods word and to fellowship with other Christians as it helps me to be able to strengthen my relationship with God. Kind of like we teach our kids to share then they usually do however if we do not then will they share? anybodies guess. I know some very spiritual people who have turned from the church due to the drama that can happen in a church but, they still believe and try to live their life to benefit God. There is more to a relationship with God then going to church its a 24/7/365 commitment not just a Sunday commitment, its helping others, trying to do right, treating people with love and respect whether they share your views or not and being kind even when it hurts. God knows whats in a persons heart so if your heart isn't in to going to church then don't go but, God can and will still love you and just because you don't go to church doesn't mean you can't have a relationship with him, or read your Bible and Pray. Hope this helps, Its just my opinion not to mention that if they only way God can love me and be there for me is if I go to church then I am in trouble since I am going through Chemo and can't go at the moment. lol You can have Faith in God and not the Church
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My sister, who is deeply spiritual, and believes in God, but does not go to a church, says, "Religion / churches ruin God for people".
I am glad to have a church where I feel part of a community of faith, and where I belong, and have girlfriends who have cared for me through all this. But, I think that is the icing on the cake, to have that fellowship and relationship. God is the cake.
Because churches are filled with humans, they also are filled with "human stuff" - and it can sometimes be very discouraging. However, some of that "human stuff" is also really really good. It's sort of like any family, for me, you take the good with the bad, and do a lot of forgiving... have patience, etc...

Springtime
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Thank you both for your thoughts. I do believe in God and that belief has been a big part of my life. However I do not understand organized religion or "The Church" (and I say this being an ordained Deacon) How can a person or group of people decide who is acceptable and who is not, who is welcome in a church or not, how can people decide what has to be believed in order to be ok? Isn't the relationship between me and God; and not for someone else to judge?
ebann- you mentioned something that I also wonder about- Christianity. I am not sure how to put this into words so please bear with me; if I believe in God, do good works and serve others but have questions regarding Jesus and the (many vesions of) Bible where does that put me. Is it about a particular religion/point of view or having a relationship with God that is most important and how do we know?
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I have another heavy question to ask, but I think it should wait. It is totally off topic.
I think I am going to try to chime in. The church I attended most of my life teaches things like birth control are sins, and has dietary restrictions at certain times of the year. I changed churches about 10 years ago. The new church had an hour long praise session, followed by a sermon. It was a very spirit-filled church. But the new church didn't have the same list of "don't" the first one did. I was really confused. All of a sudden it was ok to use birth control and eat meat on Fridays! I have since left that church. I never felt I was a good enough Christian to be there. There were also times I felt like I was looked down on because I did not attend every event the church offered.
I remember a conversation between my mother and her friend about our next door neighboor. The lady next door would quote scripture constantly, but was the meanest person you ever met. She was cruel. She KNEW the bible but she clearly did not LIVE it.
I am not sure I am making sense, but I guess what I am trying to say is that I totally understand your concerns and frustrations.
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Welcome Elaine & Springtime..& everyone else who maybe reads without posting!If you read back much of what I am about to write has already been said:A church that judges you or does not welcome everyone is not God's church!More damage has been done in the name of religion than other spiritual endeavor!NO ONE else can tell you who or what you are spiritually! Only YOU know what you believe & they are judging WRONGLY if they tell you you can't do/be/believe something & still call yourself a Christian!Bottom line---NO ONE is perfect! We all sin.....the difference is that we work on it. If I repeat the same sin I need more work/help. If I don't agree with the church I am still a member-I just pray for change-in me..or in the church! The one measure I use in every decision is WWJD....it never fails to give the right answer..Be well & stay strong--HUGS
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