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  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited November 2008

    Slavery is a thing of a very distant past.  Other than for teaching history, it should not be a crutch today. 

    The sad fact is a lot of blacks were denied equal rights during even my lifetime.  We only have whites to blame for that.  The way blacks were treated was horrible.  And while young blacks of today didnt have to experience it, their parents did and their grandparents certainly did.  So they grew up hearing stories of what white people did to their loved ones, and they hate. 

    So to "make up" for all this, there is NAACP, ACLU, Black History month, government housing, welfare checks, and an obvious right to "reverse-discrimination".  When I wanted to open my own business several years ago, I went to the SBA to see what funding options I would have.  You know what they told me?  If I were a black woman, I could get an UNSECURED GOVERNMENT LOAN up to $250,000, with 5 year "grace period" before repaying and a guaranteed low interest rate.  If my business didnt survive, I could walk away with no ramifications.  But since I am WHITE, I will have to go to the bank and put up guaranteed collateral for the amount I want.

    So we really havent grown as a nation.  We are all just playing "duck, duck, goose" 

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited November 2008

    Harley44 are you a "mutt"?  LOL-Laughing

    I actually thougt OB's comment about being a mutt was funny.  He was making a joke.

    They need a poodle since their daughter has allergies.  My cousin has horrible allergies and her doctor actually recommended a poodle.  She got two!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    I know some thing YouTube is silly.  NOT!  A teacher caught..in her own words.  And this is from my state!  The first of the video there are two men speaking in another language.  I'm not sure what it is, but then the teacher comes on.

    Ashville N.C. School teacher browbeats student over being a McCain supporter  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDEAYgm0Dv8  

    This is terrible!

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited November 2008

    Moodyk13

    Yes, BO seems to have a good sense of humor.  He made reference to his BIG EARS, saying that he looks like Alfred E. Newman!  Wink

    I think I AM a mutt!!  lol   My father was MOSTLY German, and I think my mother was MOSTLY American Indian, so I should say that I'm German American, I guess. 

    Yes, I believe I read somewhere that if you are allergic, poodles are good dogs to have.  Also, for cat lovers, if you are allergic to cats, the ones with only skin and no fur are supposed to be good, but IMHO, they are just too ugly!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Yeah, right.  The sign was put there mistakenly.  I'm sure glad it wasn't a McCain sign or....... 

    Obama Campaign Caught Cheating In Indiana!  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNrwOxYKJIA  watch vdeo here

    ABC NEWS report: Obama Campaign Caught Cheating in Indiana -- Illegal Electioneering at Precint (ABC)
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/electionjournal.html

    We noticed an Obama volunteer set-up directly across from the voter check-in table actively courting voters. The sign read OBAMA FOR AMERICA. She would not identify herself and directed us to call the campaign for information.

    This is against the rules. Where were the board of elections and poll workers? They should have removed the signs and asked the people who brought in the signs to exit and stay at least 10 feet from the door. Category:  News & Politics   From Political Punch  

    ElectionJournal.Org Documents Obama Electioneering at Indiana Precinct

    May 06, 2008 2:48 PM

    Electionjournal.org  bills itself as "an online community dedicated to raising public awareness of vote fraud and election irregularities."

    Best as I can tell, that means it attempts to use citizens themselves to record and report possible voting problems. An organic mélange of media, citizenry, community, and watchdog.

    Today a citizen reportedthat at the Crooked Creek Baptist Church in Washington Township at about 10:15 AM they "noticed an Obama volunteer had set-up directly across from the voter check-in table. We noticed that she was actively speaking to voters. The sign on the table stated 'Trouble Voting? Talk to me.' and 'Obama for America.' She wouldn't identify herself and directed us to call the campaign for information. We contacted the County Clerk's Office and they stated they would contact the Polling Inspector to investigate."

    You can watch the video HERE.

    The Obama campaign confirms this happened and has apologized.

    "A volunteer and credentialed watcher made a mistake and took a sign into the polling booth that was meant for the appropriate place outside of the polling place," said spox Bill Burton. "The sign has been taken down, and we apologized to the election workers for the mistake."

    - jpt

    h/t Ambinder

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Let's see how many flip-flops.  I know some hate these videos because the candidate is speaking in his own words.  Yes, it doesn't make any difference now, but you can believe some of us will be keeping an eye on this man. 

    LIAR Barack Obama Contradicts & Flip-flops On "The Surge"

    http://www.youtube.com/user/barackobamaLIED

  • moodyk13
    moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
    edited November 2008

    Ah oh shirley, video and  ABC news  report was dated May 6th.  So it was for the primary not this past tuesday. oops!

  • Daffodil
    Daffodil Member Posts: 829
    edited January 2009

    Busy bees tonight~~~

    Great hypo-allergenic dogs: Cockapoo, Labradoodle, Cairn terrier, wheaten terrier!

    The private DC/MD schools mentioned are multi-cultural and multi-racial, a fact that is much celebrated and enjoyed. The Carters tried their best to de-glamorize the White House and were very liberal. Amy attended State Dinners and read a book......I believe she remains an activist. The Carters' greatest legacy may be their wonderful work with Habitat for Humanity. Rosalynn is one of us, and has launched many charitable programs.

    "Americans" are every race, creed, ethnicity, and religion~~~or lack thereof. Further qualifying should be up to the individual, for whatever reason. Asking for that information by the Census, etc. should be a means of identifying trends, needs, changes.

    Now the age thing is bothering me~~~over-60 and you should retire from life? Does Joe Biden know?.  If I only have a few years left, BC or no BC, I best not spend too much precious time here!Innocent

    Cheers to all who read and post here in a bi-partisan spirit of unity!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    I didn't care when this was.  It just showed what 07rescue was saying.  How they'd do "dishonest" things to get a vote.  Even Obama's campaign admitted to it.  How could they not after the video showed it clearly sitting right there on a table where people vote.  HEY, COME OVER HERE SO I CAN TELL YOU WHO TO VOTE FOR!  Can you read...see Obama..vote for him..sorry you were having difficulty voting.  Yeah, right!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Here I go and get in trouble again.  The gals over there are ranting about how inexperienced Palin is/was to be VP.  Ha!  What about our newly-elected-soon-to-be president?  No one has yet come over here and told any of us WHAT he has done.  WHY are they voted for him. 

    A CHALLENGE:  Name on thing that Obama has done to be an experienced used-to-be-candidate, now soon-to-be-president of this great country?  ONE thing?  Anyone from over there?

    Hmmm...lets see what one of his pundits said in the primaries to Chris Matthews who had tingly feelings going up his leg when Obama spoke and now needs to help him in his presidency.

    Those pesky little YouTube videos. Laughing

    "Hardball" Way to Hard Too Hard For Obama Supporter Kirk Watson

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj4VK9wVAi0  

    Inspire?  Hitler?

  • Daffodil
    Daffodil Member Posts: 829
    edited January 2009

    Chris is reportedly planning a run for the Senate; he's a Philly boy.

  • 07rescue
    07rescue Member Posts: 168
    edited November 2008

    Gosh, Shirley, the video you posted made me really miss Stephanie Tubbs Jones. She was an awesome person,  who devoted her life to helping her constituents (unlike Obama, who spent his political career lining the pockets of his campaign contributors like the convicted political fixer, Rezko, who took the taxpayer's money and ran instead of renovating the ghetto housing he was contracted to fix). She has my undying love and respect. It was such a huge loss when she died. I can hardly believe she is gone.

    Now, can anyone imagine threatening a fine person like her, or her family, just because she supported Hillary over Obama??

    She was a loyal and loving friend, who kept her word. I promised to help with her re-election campaign, but she died before I had the chance. I will never forget her.

    There are extraordinary people on both sides of the ideological divide, who make people's lives better through their love, discipline, and generosity. They make things work no matter their approach, and transcend the liberal or conservative nature of their endeavors. She was one of those brave souls, like John McCain, who demonstrated great courage in the face of opposition, and didn't compromise her principles.

  • ibcspouse
    ibcspouse Member Posts: 613
    edited November 2008

    07rescue

    Hard to imagine anybody attacking Stephanie Tubbs Jones, but it was hard to imagine Bill Clinton or Geraldine Anne Farraro would be called racist.  Or to show my age, another man I thought had a great deal of integrity, when the early far left called Hubert Humphrey a war monger. Dems have always attacked other dems more harshly than Rebups have.  The Willie Horton ad was originally a dem primary ad. 

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited November 2008

    Rescue,

    Trust was exactly the word we did use here.  We didn't trust him, at least I didn't.  I read about what he did to get here, and he's here.  To me he just used people for the sake of expediency to get where he is.  He needed 8000 members of that Church, he joined that Church, and on and on.  Rezko he really didn't need to be in his past, but again it worked for him.  That's why he calls himself a bonehead, because he really didn't need Rezko until he purchased the home.  Rezko was more of a weight around his neck.  In normal times, that weight should have sunk him, but he got through it.

    Today, for some of us it's a new word.  Fear.  A lot of damage can be done to our country with the good intentions of one party making all the plans for our future.  We usually correct it in the next election, but I don't have too much hope for that to happen because everyone was willing to vote back the very people who created the very mess we're in today. Only in America.

    Saying all that, I really think Obama will fool us.  I have this feeling he will put Country first, and not his cronies wishes and demands.  He won't do their dirty work.  He'll be his own man.  It's his place in history that he's fooling with, not a Pelosi, Frank, or a Schumer.  They will be forgotten,  Obama won't be. 

    I don't think he's off to a good start, because as Shirley pointed out yesterday, Pelosi beat him to microphone to announce her plan for another stimulus package.  HER PLAN.  He's going to have to rein her in.  This is what I feared the most, the dems wanted him badly in place because they think they can use him.  I can't even find out what all is in that plan.  She zipped to that microphone very early in the morning.   Well, all eyes are on him and we'll see who's the boss.

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited November 2008

    Palin is fighting back:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081108/ap_on_el_pr/palin

    They tried very hard to damage her even before her plane landed back in Alaska.  I listened to a show on C-SPAN the night before.  The fellow from Newsweek was giving the litany of her sins for the world to hear.  Basically, he was saying everything he heard from the "source" who won't come out in the open.  They are trying too hard to diminish her into nothing but a shop-a-holic who didn't have any time to shop.  Where's McCain in all of this?  Anyway, on to the Senate for her, if the stars align for her.  She says she's not interested in the job, but a nice groundswell might change her mind.

  • 07rescue
    07rescue Member Posts: 168
    edited November 2008

    Hi Rosemary,

    I would be surprised if Palin wants that Senate seat. If her goal is to run for president, it is a much better launching pad to be a governor, than be a senator, where you will inevitably have to cast votes that can be used against you later.

    The Democrats will have to demonize Palin any way they (we???) can. Gosh, I detest my party right now. I'm certain they were terrified at her star power, at how quickly she attracted crowds at least as large as Obama's rallies, and how attractive a candidate she was. They need to destroy her ASAP, and if it requires fabricating stories about her they will. It seems that every woman who attempts to gain higher office gets destroyed. I hope she fights back, long and hard. Many of us have been sending her letters of support and thanks for participating in politics at all.

    I would keep my eye on Carly Fiorina for the future. We Clinton supporters met with her in Arlington at the McCain headquarters, and she was a tremendously sincere, caring, brilliant person, very down to earth, and clearly dedicated to public service. She is another great talent the Republican Party could cultivate for the future. Don't let her get away, and go back into the private sector where she can make much more money! We need smart, hardworking people in public service. If all the best people get destroyed by the brutal, destructive political process that is going on we will suffer as a country.

    I wish I had your optimism about Obama. I simply have never once seen him do anything for anyone but himself, and his version of enlightened self interest has not impressed me at all. It's very hard for me to imagine him changing his stripes now, with unfettered power in his grasp. He believes he knows better than anyone else what is for the best.

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited November 2008

    Rescue,

    She needs national exposure and trips back and forth from Alaska are way too long.  I'm positive she already has a long list of speaking engagements she's being asked to do.  I think it will add to her resume and  give her more credibility as a Senator with her Governorship in the background. 

    She just might not have the desire to be on the national scene.  She started this though, so she just might have to finish it.  Anyway, all of them say they aren't running for something till they do.

    We'll know soon enough about where Obama wants to land up in history.  He can just be another partisan dolt and have the same non respect that Carter endures today, or he can be our hero.  It's up to him. If he tries to push through his taxing plans for business, move over Hoover. 

    A little note of Hoover history.  He and his wife dressed in white tie and full tails and gown every evening for dinner in the white house, whether or not they had company.  Outside was the starving army vets in tents along the front of the white house.  Hooverville.  Pheasant under glass anyone?

  • Paulette531
    Paulette531 Member Posts: 738
    edited November 2008

    Jeez...you guys have been busy here! Does nobody sleep in on Saturday morning! If we all ever go on the campaign trail together I will have to meet y'all at lunch! I have a psych paper due tomorrow on nature vs. nurture...hope I can concentrate on writing it while keeping up here!

    Rosemary...have you been reading about Kay Bailey and the challenge for Perry? Sounds interesting...we may have a couple of women in the running for the Repubs in the near future. Wouldn't it be awesome if the first woman president was a conservative Repub? 

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited November 2008

    Paulette,

    No I haven't been keeping up with local politics yet.  I did know that Kay Bailey wants to be our Governor, and I support that 100%.  Will I ever get active for her fight though she might be a shoe-in here.  Still it's fun to be in a good fight from the grassroots.  I never once thought I'd get this political, but I see my sitting back isn't for me any longer. 

    Uh-oh, since she's leaving the Senate, we need to find a good republican replacement.  Who do we have?  Sorry ladies, just a little Texas talk here, but it could have national complications if we don't have a good republican to replace her. 

  • suzfive
    suzfive Member Posts: 456
    edited November 2008

    For those interested in getting involved go to rebuildtheparty.com and sign up!

    I read over there <------------------ and am wondering why are they still harping on Palin as if she is a threat to them - they need to get over it and move on - they could start by working on those 100 hours of community service. If this country ends up more divided it will be because of people like them.

  • LuAnnH
    LuAnnH Member Posts: 8,847
    edited November 2008

    You guys only let me get so far and I have to respond.  Whoever made the "mutt" comment, he was light heartedly joking that he is made up of multiple nationalities.  I am too!  I know for a fact that my grandparents arrived at Ellis Island in I believe 1936, I have a picture of the boat my grandfather arrived in along with his signature on a manifest of sorts of the people in lower class.  So I know for sure of my italian heritage and my mothers family immigrated from Germany.  I guess that makes me a mutt to but no one would jump on me for saying that.

    Then a comment was made about blacks being mistreaten.  Yes they were and it wasn't that long ago, in Cincinnati there was a village that had signs saying No ^&^&^%^ allowed.  It was awful and yes the younger generation hears these stories.  Organizations like the ACLU may have come about but don't blame welfare on black people!  I know plenty of people, white, black, hispanic and asian that are on welfare so it is not a racial thing.  Please don't make such a racist remark.

    Maybe you didn't mean it that way but welfare was enabled to help families struggling in a trying economy get by until a new job could be found.  It was designed to be a stepping stone instead of a way of living.  Unfortunately we have alot of lazy people in society that misuse the program.  I have seen some very nice women use the program for what it was meant.  It helped feed their families for one or two months until they got a job and then they no longer utilized the benefits, so some people do use the system the way it was meant to be used.

  • suzfive
    suzfive Member Posts: 456
    edited November 2008

    LuAnn - I think we can all agree that he was joking when he made the "mutt" comment. I don't

    think anyone jumped on him for saying it. My children are mixed race and I jokingly call them

    "mutts". In our house we are all mutts including the dog - all except dh who as far as we know is

    a purebred LOL! Pres. Obama's mother was white and his father African so he can rightly claim

    that he is African American just like my kids tell people that they are Bangladeshi-Americans.

    Bloody, then buddies: It's still the American way

      By TED ANTHONY, AP National Writer Ted Anthony, Ap National Writer - Sat Nov 8, 1:42 pm ET   

      LOCK HAVEN, Pa. - The seat of Clinton County sits along a river at the foot of a spectacular mountain range in rural central Pennsylvania. On Election Day, what happened here was a microcosm of American duality: Just 327 votes separated John McCain, who won the county, and Barack Obama, who didn't.

      Lock Haven, a community of 9,000, is home to Kim Saar, a staunch "Republican all the way" who backed McCain and wonders how an Obama presidency could play out. Kim Saar, who - in the latest chapter of a 216-year American political tradition - supports the outcome of an election that didn't go her way.

      "It's the way society is," says Saar, an underwriter for American Dream Mortgages just off Main Street. "We were all raised to accept it."

      After so many months of rancor and debate, of Americans dividing into political tribes and demonizing the other guy, the days following a presidential election can be odd ones. Applying brakes to the trajectory of campaign fervor and deciding when Republicans and Democrats become simply Americans again is an intricate, delicate process.

      Yet for all the extended bluster, reconciling after casting our votes is something we do well and in a calm manner envied by the rest of the world. Kind of astounding for a nation that built itself from scratch in 1776 by violently separating from a monarch's rule.

      "It's still amazing that one day Bush will leave the White House and go home and be a private citizen, and Obama will be president, and there will not be a revolution in the streets," says presidential historian Doris Kearns Goodwin, whose book "Team of Rivals" chronicled Abraham Lincoln's efforts to create post-election unity by including political adversaries in his Cabinet.

      The alternative is bloodshed. In Zimbabwe, for example, the ugly, violent aftermath of presidential elections this year has pushed the country even further into chaos. The list goes on: Macedonia. East Timor. The Philippines. Kenya.

      Here, though, the first moments after the outcome was certain on Election Night were filled with the language of reconciliation so absent in the campaign's heated final weeks. Obama was generous in victory, McCain gracious and eloquent in defeat. The message: country first.

      Said the winner: "In this country, we rise or fall as one nation, as one people. ... While the Democratic Party has won a great victory tonight, we do so with a measure of humility and determination to heal the divides that have held back our progress."

      Said the loser: "It's natural, tonight, to feel some disappointment. But tomorrow, we must move beyond it and work together to get our country moving again."

      In short order, President Bush invited the Obamas to the White House. Transition teams kicked into gear. No one took up arms. Even Elisabeth Hasselbeck on "The View," who ardently supported McCain, said she would "jump in that line and support our president." With scattered ugly exceptions, playing nice swiftly became the dominant narrative - even more so at a moment when a war overseas and hard times at home can grease the wheels of unity.

      "We express ourselves and we move on. And I don't think America is a particularly angry nation. There's an awful lot of value placed on community and commonality," says Sheenah Hankin, a New York City psychotherapist who studies conflict resolution.

      The amity probably won't last, though. Nor should it.

      Gathering around the national campfire to sing "Kumbaya" would be neither realistic nor beneficial to the national interest. The campaign's gaping divides revealed fundamental divisions in American society - how we should run the economy, how we should interact with the world, what role government has in people's lives. That requires, in the words of former Bush Secretary of State Colin Powell, "competing in that typical American way, which is hard-fought."

      "You fight for your position. It's what our founding fathers intended," Powell said on CNN the day after Election Day. "They wanted a clash of ideas, and from that clash of ideas the people are informed and the people make their choice."

      We can't live with us, can't live without us. At times, the juxtaposition of spluttering invective and community warmth gives America the feel of a dysfunctional family - Mom and Dad arguing, then making nice in front of the kids.

      And, in fact, it kind of is.

      "Some things were said that probably shouldn't have been said," says Howard Markman, co-director of the Center for Marital and Family Studies at the University of Denver.

      "That's exactly what people do in marital conflicts. We assassinate each other's character, we throw zingers. But most people want to save their marriages," he says. "What makes for a healthy, successful marriage also makes for a healthy, successful country."

      Rapprochement may not always be overt, but it is present.

      In Lock Haven, for example, folks report that in the days leading up to the election, campaign signs for both sides were everywhere and things were kind of tense. On Friday, a drive in town and outlying rural areas revealed conversations about how glad everyone was that the election was over, and just five lawn signs remained - two for Obama, two for McCain and one for "Free Kittens."

      It's hard to quantify why this is. It may be because, unlike many nations, ours is an experiment founded specifically to chase dreams and shape ideals of self-determination. We may be of, by and for the people, but the notion is embedded deep in the American identity that it's about more than just one guy or one election. For a society obsessed with outcomes, perhaps we revere process more than we know.

      Goodwin, the historian, went out to dinner Thursday night at a favorite restaurant in Massachusetts and was speaking to the proprietor, a spirited Republican and McCain backer who had been fretting in recent weeks as it became more apparent that his man might not prevail.

      And when McCain didn't, and Obama appeared before Democratic faithful at that park in Chicago, the restaurant owner watched, listened - and wept.

      "He found himself stunned," Goodwin says. "There was that moment of thinking, `Maybe it's going to be OK.'"

      _____

      I did not find myself stunned - I don't watch TV but did read the transcript - whether or not it will be okay remains to be seen.

    • moodyk13
      moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
      edited November 2008

      The welfare comment wasnt meant to be racist, it was merely a piece of the pie. The pie called "entitlement".   Welfare was developed for poor white people in th 30's. Mid 70's Pres. Johnson (I think) is who made it possible for anyone needing government assistance to be eligible-all races.  

      Over the past 30 years- for many reasons-more blacks than any other race received welfare.  In my state, 50% of blacks will received welfare at some time in their life compared to 20% whites.  So in this state, welfare has been associated more with the black race than any other.  I think now more hispanics get gov'nt assitance but I am not positive.

      So, you are right that welfare was not started to help blacks like NAACP, ACLU, etc.  Sadly, Welfare Reform was brought about mainly because of people "abusing the system".  Since the majority of the people on welfare during that time was black people (again, in my state) it is easy to see why when we think of welfare, we think of black people.----That doesnt make it right---  its just why.

      I absolutley believe that by electing Obama as president, ALL kids will see that nothing is impossible.  That hard work, and no excuses, you can be whatever you want to be.  I believe that young black students are now really motivated to finish high school and go on to college.  I think the hispanic population here in Ga is also newly motivated to better themselves now.  So this is a positive thing already for Obama and he hasnt been sworn in yet!Smile

    • ibcspouse
      ibcspouse Member Posts: 613
      edited November 2008

      A true story.

      Cam's mother is in home hospice for non-small cell lung cancer.  She went to the Hospital last week end due to pneumonia and fluid build up.  She was not expected to come out.  She lives three hundred miles from us so Cam packed her up chuck bucket and we headed to her hometown.  MIL was heavyly sedated and non responsive to our visit.  We left the hospital on Tuesday nite not knowing if she would be with us in the morning. 

      MIL is a life long liberal, who worked in Radio for years.  She has interview Robert Kennedy, the Carters, and her favorite picture is her in Washington with a drink in one hand a cigarrite in the other, having a discussion with Hubert Humphrey.  In the 50's and 60's She championed civil rights and desegregation in the small Mississippi Delta town she lived(not the most popular thing to do).  She was a member of the State Democratic Committee.   

      Cam and I were staying at her house, at 11 oclock Tues nite the phone rang, and I knew it was the nurse calling to say Jean had passed.  I was suprised to say the least, It was Jean, calling to rub in the fact that Obama won.  The next morning she checked herself out of the hospital an is now a home.

    • moodyk13
      moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
      edited November 2008

      Very cute story ibc- i got a chuckle out of it!

    • snhb
      snhb Member Posts: 26
      edited November 2008

      President elect Barack Obama recieved a letter of congratulations from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad!!!  Ahmadinejad, a man who denies that the Holocaust occured.  A nut who HATES Americans!!! 

      Of course he sent Barack(I will sit down without preconditions and speak with Ahmadinejad) Obama a letter of congratulations!!!  Oh, wait, yes he said without preconditions, but not without preparations. 

      Oh, for Christ's sake enough is enough already!!! Barack Obama the "we are our brothers keeper", didn't know his own aunt was in the country illegally!!  Barack Obama who sometimes hit the wrong button when he voted in the Senate.  Let's hope he doesn't hit the wrong button and send a nuke somewhere.

        Have any of us ever heard that he actually worked a day in his life???  Does he have any friends or associates that aren't over the top?? Listen, you don't sit in a church for 20 years and not know that Wright gave those "sermons"!!! 

        Suffice it to say that I totally believe Rescue's assesment of this man. I pray and hope that our country will be okay. 

    • moodyk13
      moodyk13 Member Posts: 1,180
      edited November 2008

      Obama is going to be too busy trying to figure out what he is going to do about Russia's threat to worry about Iran.  He is fixin to get a "snoot" full of Vladmir Putin.

      I love how he was late to his first press conference.  But then again, he was late to 10 different hearings in the senate too.  Talk about a "diva"!

      Okay Obama supporters......you know we will scrutinize his every move and every word.  We didn't vote for him, so we got the right to. Innocent

    • Anonymous
      Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
      edited November 2008

      I would be surprised if Palin wants that Senate seat. If her goal is to run for president, it is a much better launching pad to be a governor, than be a senator, where you will inevitably have to cast votes that can be used against you later.

      There is no possibility of Palin ever getting anywhere close to the Presidency.  Like Dan Quayle, she will forevermore be considered far too dumb for the job, and the truth is she deserves the label given her performance in the campaign.

    • Anonymous
      Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
      edited November 2008

      A CHALLENGE:  Name on thing that Obama has done to be an experienced used-to-be-candidate, now soon-to-be-president of this great country?  ONE thing?  Anyone from over there?

      The truth is that no one has the experience to be President until they are President.  But there are three things that Obama has.  A very keen intelligence, the ability to communicate, and the analytical ability to consider all options. Hillary had these qualities also but I believe Obama had more Charisma than her.  He also appears to be a very nice guy.   I personally am again very hopeful for our country's future.   McCain was okay, but what if he died in office and left Palen.  Can anybody honestly argue that Palen was prepared to be a VP let alone the President?  And does anybody truly think we should be in Iraq for another hundred years?

    • Paulette531
      Paulette531 Member Posts: 738
      edited November 2008

      Blaest...YOU just said, "the truth is that no one has the experience to be president until they are president" And then you back pedal and say "can anyone argue that Palen (HER NAME IS PALIN) was prepared to be VP let alone President?"...So which is it, or does it just apply to Obama? Back pedaling won't get you anywhere!

      I think we should be in Iraq for as long as it takes. How long were we in Germany after WWII? A long damn time is how long. 

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