The Respectfully Republican Conversation

Obama's race has nothing to do with it for me - its' irrelevant. My parents are voting for Obama - For me,  it's more about where they stand on the issues - really sad that Obama's grandmother passed away.

Doreen 

Bygrace1.... Ditto....

I truly don't believe that the only reason repubs aren't voting for Obama is because of his race, but I do think that is the case for some.  They can't get past it.  Why is it not ok for us to say that but it's ok for people on this thread to throw out marxist, communist, socialist?????  

we are all going to vote tomorrow for whichever candidate we think is best suited to fix the mess we are in.  The important thing is that we all vote and that we all have the freedom to do so.  

Obama plans to tax those making over what is it now $120,000 at a higher rate - I think he called it "chump change" and then give tax credits (not tax cuts) to those who do not pay any income taxes. That is socialism - taking from one and giving it to another.

I read that there are quite a few people who are actually voting for Obama based solely on his race - and these are white people. They are hoping that having a black President will end racism.

Whoever wins we are in for a rough road.

Obama being black has not one thing to do with me not voting for him.  I do not like his policies.  I do not trust him.  I don't really know what the heck he's planning to do..you know he does flip flop.  But I'll be darned if I'm going to vote for president who just happens to be black because it's a historic day.  I know Oprah cried her false eyelashes off when he made his acceptance speech with the Greek columns.

This is a short video.  But you'll bet the drift.  Why did he only give about 1% to charities when make somewhere near $300,000 combined income.  And then, when he earned millions from his book he gave less than 10%.  And Joe Biden made millions and gave a whopping $3,000 something.  And they want to distribute the wealth.  No thanks.  I think Americans can donate to which cause they choose, not what the government chooses for them.

The people in this country are giving people.  Katrina victims are just one.  Worldwide disasters..we're there to help.  We give aide to countries including Africa for HIV.  And do you know that we give aide to Africa and it doesn't go to the African people.  Many, many times it goes to the dictators. 

We are a GREAT country. 

Obama preaching socialism to college students    

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axRvqGBpNNE&feature=related    

blue16 wrote:    

Are you so afraid of someone, ummm, how should I put this... different? Read between the lines.  You folks are truly frightening.

ibcspouse wrote:

Blue, don't call us names or accuse us of being racist.  Yes I am afaraid of someone that is different.  There is no reading between the lines.  We have never had a Presidential Candidate who promises Redistribution of wealth, we have never had a candidate that promises to bankrupt the largest energy source industry in our country, we have never had a candidate that proudly declares that home untility cost will skyrocket, we have never had a candidate that has no record but has associations with people that hate america and Israel.  I don't give a damn if his face is brown, his butt is blue and his toes are green, color has nothing to do with it.  I have never seen one fact to base a vote on for Obama, I have seen many reasons to be afraid for my country if he is elected.

You go BROTHER!  I am getting tired of hearing how racist we are.  That can go two ways, you know.  I haven't see ACORN going out to poor white communities to sign them up to vote.  What's that all about?

blue 16,

When you post this:

"Look, we can agree to disagree... I just wish people would be honest about why they can't fathom voting for the man...I'd have more respect."

It implies that you think everyone not voting for Obama is doing so because of race and not being honest about it.  Yes, some people will vote against him because of his race, but others may vote for him only because of his race because that is the only thing they know about him. 

This is a man who makes most liberals look conservative.  There are reasonable, legitimate reasons to vote against him.  He has voted with the Democrats in Congress 97% of the time, so I have my doubts about his willingness to reach across the aisle. 

John McCain has reached across the aisle consistently through the many years he has been in Congress.  He has voted against Bush's programs 10% of the time.  HIs biggest obstacle in getting the nomination was that very willingness to reach across the aisle.

I believe actions more than words. 

Obama's campaign has made an issue of how frequently McCain "votes with the president", but since most congressional votes are not that controversial, I would bet that Obama has also "voted with the president" a substantial percent of the time. 

blue16 wrote:

as far as his associations, McCain has questionable ones as well....

Pray tell, who are they?  The Keating Five?  Lieberman?  Graham?  Generals?  Governors?  Who?

Shirley:  Once agin you are misinfomed.  Joe Biden has never made more than $300k.  It is widely known that he is the "poorest" man in the senate. 

As for Obama, last year was the first year he made over $1million (due in large part to the success of his book)

As far ad the  "redistributing the wealth" nonsense, I am not even going there, but you might want to look it up on factcheck.org.

I find it amusing that many of you get your hard and fast "news" from youtube videos featuring Sean Hannity.  

 You'll be happy to hear this is my last post.  Happy voting everyone.

Bye, Blue.  I believe we have been extremely polite.  I believe we have the right to differ with you.  I like the videos because it gives you the sense of just what they candidate is saying.  And, I love Hannity!

Okay, Blue, I believe he sold his home for $1.6 million.  He's not poor.  He and his wife make over $300,000 and only give a small amounty charity.  Perhaps he can't afford to give that much. But he's going to be put in the "rich" bracket.  And, I think I read that he had refinanced his house over 20 times to put his kids through college.  We've refinanced ours many times for the same reason...education from the time they were in K -- four years of college (three kids).  But, I don't want this our next president telling us who's rich and who's not.  If Joe Biden is the poorest man in the Senate, then according to Obama he's pretty wealthy. 

Shirley

This is what happened during the Reagan years.  We started with inflation out of control from the Carter years:

"Reaganomics denotes the economic policies of President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s. He sought to end the high inflation and recessions of the 1970s, which conservatives attributed to the heavy burden government imposed on private enterprise. Reagan called for sharp reductions in federal taxes, spending, and regulation as well as a monetary policy that strictly limited the growth of the money supply.

The administration implemented most of its program. The Federal Reserve pushed interest rates to historic highs in 1981, limiting monetary growth; Congress reduced tax rates in 1981 and again in 1986; and Reagan appointees relaxed many federal regulations. Reagan also secured immediate cuts in domestic spending, but he failed to arrest the growth of social security, Medicare, and Medicaid, which continued to grow automatically with the aging of the population and new medical technology.

Reaganomics was and remains controversial. The country suffered a severe recession in 1981-1982, but inflation fell from 13.5 percent to 3.2 percent. In 1983, the economy began a substantial boom that lasted through 1989, and unemployment gradually fell to 5.3 percent. Throughout, inflation remained under control, hovering between 3 and 4 percent a year. But Washington ran heavy deficits throughout the 1980s, with the federal debt tripling. The international balance of payments went from equilibrium to an annual deficit of over $100 billion, and the distribution of income became less equal."

From the above I would think his plan of lowering taxes on business worked.

Thanks, PatMom.  It pretty much says it all.  On page 119 he's talking to students at the commencement about "socialism."  Of course he didn't use THAT word.  It's a link to YouTube.  It sounds all warm and fuzzy, but if you think about everything he says it makes you go..HMMMM...

Shirley

This may be on here already.  But I'm posting it again. LOL

*'Twas the day before elections*
    *And all through the town*
    *Tempers were flaring*
    *Emotions all up and down!*

    *I, in my sleep shirt*
    *With 3 cats in my lap*
    *Had cut off the TV*
    *Tired of all the political crap.*
 
    *When all of a sudden*
    *There arose such a noise*
    *I peered out of my window*
    *Saw Obama and his boys*
  
    *They had come for my wallet*
    *They wanted my pay*
    *To give to the others*
    *Who had not worked a day!*

    *He snatched up my money*
    *And quick as a wink*
    *Jumped back on his band wagon*
    *As I gagged from the stink*
   
    *He then rallied his henchmen*
    *Who were pulling his cart*
    *I could tell they were out*
    *To tear my country apart!*
  
    *On Fannie, on Freddie,*
    *On Biden and Ayers!*
    *On Acorn, On Pelosi'*
    *He screamed at the pairs!*

    *They took off for his cause*
    *And as he flew out of sight*
    *I heard him laugh at the nation*
    *Who wouldn't stand up and fight!*
  
    *So I leave you to think*
    *On this one final note-*
    *IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM*
    *GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!*

Just in case you haven't heard Governor Sarah Palin was vindicated in troopergate tonight........AP is reporting as well

The Anchorage Daily News

New Troopergate report clears Palin


By LISA DEMER

(11/03/08 15:46:28)

A new report just released -- hours before the polls open on Election Day -- exonerates Gov. Sarah Palin in the Troopergate controversy.

The state Personnel Board-sanctioned investigation is the second into whether Palin violated state ethics law in firing her public safety commissioner, and it contradicts the earlier findings by a special counsel hired by the state Legislature.

Both investigations found that Palin was within her rights to fire Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan.

But the new report says the Legislature's investigator was wrong to conclude that Palin abused her power by allowing aides and her husband, Todd, to pressure Monegan and others to dismiss her ex-brother-in-law, Trooper Mike Wooten. Palin was accused of firing Monegan after Wooten stayed on the job.

The Palins have argued that Wooten was a loose cannon who had tasered his stepson, drank beer in his patrol car, and threatened Palin's father, and that their complaints that he shouldn't be on the force were justified.

The Troopergate matter became sharply politicized after Palin was announced as Republican presidential candidate John McCain's running mate in Tuesday's election.

The report, released at a Monday afternoon press conference at the Hotel Captain Cook, presents the findings and recommendations of Anchorage lawyer Timothy Petumenos, hired as independent counsel for the Personnel Board to examine several complaints against Palin.

Petumenos wrote the Legislature's special counsel, former state prosecutor Steve Branchflower, used the wrong state law as the basis for his conclusions and also misconstrued the evidence.

His findings and recommendations include:

- There is no cause to believe Palin violated the state ethics law in deciding to dismiss Monegan as public safety commissioner.

- There is no cause to believe Palin violated the state ethics law in connection with Wooten.

- There is no cause to believe any other state official violated the ethics act.

- There's no basis to conduct a hearing to "address reputational harm," as requested by Monegan.

- The state needs to address the issue of using private e-mails for government work and to examine how records are kept in the governor's office. Palin used her Yahoo e-mail account for state business until it was hacked.

 


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